Tribulation: 2014-2021, Rapture This Year (THEORY)

***Obviously this is now moot.  For current speculation (2017-2024), CLICK HERE.***

Honestly, of everything I’ve seen and heard, this is the most persuasive timeline I’ve seen yet. It doesn’t rely on minute details, but big things we’ve been seeing come to pass (THIS IS A THEORY):

1. This is the big one for me. Rosh Hashanah, September 23rd, 2017 and Revelation 12. I and others have scoured over hundreds of different dates using astronomy software and this is the first and only date for any year that fits ALL FOUR CONDITIONS of the sign in Revelation 12: Woman clothed with the sun. CHECK. Moon at her feet. CHECK. Giving birth to a single male child (the king planet Jupiter) right between the constellation’s legs. CHECK. Crown of 12 stars. CHECK. I have seen several close dates, such as Rosh Hashanah 2011, where 2 or 3 of the four conditions were met, but 2017 is the only date that meets all four conditions. THIS IS HUGE. Revelation 12 is a mid-trib sign, indicating the beginning of the last 3.5 years. Please also note: Jupiter, the king planet, was identified as THE Star of Bethlehem in the now famous Bethlehem Star documentary. It is the only object in the sky that meets ALL NINE of the conditions the Gospels mentioned of the Star of Bethlehem.

2. A LOT of external support for 2017 as a significant year: A. exactly 1 Jubliee after the 1967 re-capture of Jerusalem, which was exactly 1 Jubilee after the Balfour declaration. B. Judah Ben Samuel. C. Judah Ben Samuel rejected Christ, thus his “messiah” coming in 2017 is the antichrist, not THE Christ, which further points to the mid-trib. D. The Pyramid of Giza points to 2017. E. EXACTLY 1260 days before Rosh Hashanah 2017 is Passover 2014. F. EXACTLY 1290 days after each of the days of Rosh Hashanah 2017 is Passover, Unleavened Bread, AND First Fruits/Easter. G. Exactly 1335 days after Rosh Hashanah 2017 is Hayom-Yom 2021, the day the world needs purification. It also happens to be 2-3 days before Pentecost 2021.

3. As mentioned in point #2, Passover 2014 happens to be 1260 days before the sign/Rosh Hashanah in 2017. Passover 2014 also happens to be THE FIRST BLOOD MOON in the 2014-2015 tetrad! Of the four, it is the VERY FIRST. The timing is beyond incredible. Just think about it.

4. Here is where it starts to get even more chilling (in a good way): according to TorahCalendar.com, Passover 2014, which is 1260 days before Rosh Hashanah 2017, happens to be MONTH 1 of JEWISH SPIRITUAL YEAR 6000. It is the first month of the 6,000th year!!!

5. 2018, exactly 70 years from the rebirth of Israel, would thus be YEAR 6000 in the JEWISH CIVIL YEAR. TorahCalendar.com accounts for the ~230 missing years in the Jewish calendar, most of which were lost because of Seder Olam (a Rabbinical work in the 2nd century AD that forms the basis for the modern Jewish calendar).

6. 2014-2015 is the last year of Jubilee 120. No wonder there are 4 blood moons and 2 solar eclipses all falling on Jewish holy days!

This timeline places the signing of the Covenant with Many on Passover 2014, the AOD on Rosh Hashanah or Yom Kippur 2017, and the Second Coming flexibly on Shabbat Parah (1260 days later), Passover or Easter (1290 days later), or Hayom-Yom or Pentecost (1335 days later).

Note: This is for the 7 year tribulation, NOT the rapture. I do not think it is possible for the rapture to occur and the AC to be revealed and sign the treaty on the same day. Rather, the rapture happens shortly after or before Isaiah 17 and Psalm 83, the dust settles, the AC arises, and then days/weeks/months later he confirms the covenant.

We are looking for the rapture anytime over the next year. 14 months from about now would be about the latest the rapture could occur if this scenario is correct.


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  1. The number 14 represents deliverance or salvation and is used 22 times in the Bible. The term "14th" is found 24 times in scriptures.

    On the 14th day of the first month, the Passover day in 30 AD, Jesus Christ, God manifested in the flesh, the only begotten Son of God the Father, and the Lamb of God to take away the sin of the world, was crucified as the perfect sacrifice to save mankind from sin. Jesus’ death on Passover completed His ministry in the flesh.

    Seven represents completion — thus 7 + 7 = 14, indicating a double completion:

    1. The Anti-Christ to be revealed this Rosh Hashanah 2014, just 16 days away and Yahushua to return on Yom Teruah of 2021. Check it out septermber2015.com

    2. That would be September2015. Sorry for the miss-spelling!

    3. this reply is to mkmason2002 the great falling away has already started. hence Chrislam. There are many Christians falling for this new religion

    4. You are saying a peace treaty, or covenant, will be brokered by the anti-chirst on or near Rosh Hashanah 2014...Won't the Jews need their own temple to reinstate sacrificial practices - which is one of the brokered agreements made by the anti-christ to the Jews...which will eventually lead to the abomination of desolation? If not, where will the Jews perform their sacrificial ceremonies?

      Eventually, the Jews will have their own temple, in which the anti-christ (at the mid-trib point in time) will decalre himself to be god/worshipped, hence the desolation of the temple and the Jewish peoples. I believe we (the church) are removed (rapture) before any of these types of events take place. I do believe it will be soon...

    5. The good news gospel is that Donald Trump is our good Christian Republican president of America. He is a person of God that will make us great spiritually.

  2. agreed about the time delay after the rapture. But i think the 2nd coming would be on Yom Kippur. The general timeline works, just the treaty would be a different day. Fun to speculate and exciting to be in the days when we will see this happen at some point. Maranantha.

  3. I feel in my heart that we are close. Two dreams (since 2012) I have had about "the gates of heaven rising over the horizon" and another "telling Christ how much I missed him. The dreams that have come before and after are extremely pale in comparison. We are close.

    1. I have had a similar dream

    2. I could NOT disagree with you more. I won't try to sway you one way or the other, but the Bible is very clear about how God deals with his Bride. We are precious to Him, not someone to be given over to wrath, even 1/2 of the tribulation would be wrath. With a shout from the Lord, and the trumpet of God, we will be snatched, (Harpatzo) away and instantly before a single second of the Tribulation occurs. To believe otherwise would be tantamount to you saying to your fiance, "Hey, I love you, but you're going to have to be beaten before I take you home to meet Dad." Nonsense! We are taken, then the Tribulation begins, and the AC revealed.

    3. I agree that the church is seen in heaven in Rev 7. However I believe the first 5 seals have already been opened. We do not and have not had, peace on the earth; many people die and have died by the sword, starvation, and the beast of the earth and many Christian are currently being killed and have been killed in the past in many parts of the world and I believe they are the ones under the altar. If we are currently waiting for the sixth seal to be broken then the pretrib and prewrath are actually the same thing.
      All 8 translations of the bible before the King James version use the word "a departing" not falling away in 2thes2. (Read Geneva version below) How could a falling away from the faith be a sign that the Thessalonian's to recognize when there were hardly any Christians at the time to fall away. Also the only thing Paul had talked to them about previously in IThes 4 was meeting the lord in the air. Also, the church (the multitude of every race) is seen in Heaven in Rev7, which is before the earth is allowed to be harmed (Rev 7 is an interjection into rev 6 before the sixth seal is broken.) Those seen later in Rev15 who over came the beast are singing the song of Moses and the song of the lamb because they are Jews (the remnant of Israel who come to believe in Christ during tribulation (The Tribulation is the time of Jacobs trouble (Israel which is what God named him after the struggle). Daniel was concerned about his nation of Israel. While Paul was given the message for the Gentiles. Please read Geneva bible version below;
      The Geneva Bible
      1587 by William Whittingham
      2 Thessalonians Chapter 2
      2Th 2:1 Nowe we beseech you, brethren, by the comming of our Lord Iesus Christ, and by our assembling vnto him,
      2Th 2:2 That ye be not suddenly mooued from your minde, nor troubled neither by spirit, nor by worde, nor by letter, as it were from vs, as though the day of Christ were at hand.
      2Th 2:3 Let no man deceiue you by any meanes: for that day shall not come, except there come a departing first, and that that man of sinne be disclosed, euen the sonne of perdition,
      2Th 2:4 Which is an aduersarie, and exalteth him selfe against all that is called God, or that is worshipped: so that he doeth sit as God in the Temple of God, shewing him selfe that he is God.
      2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I tolde you these things?
      2Th 2:6 And nowe ye knowe what withholdeth that he might be reueiled in his time.
      2Th 2:7 For the mysterie of iniquitie doeth already worke: onely he which nowe withholdeth, shall let till he be taken out of the way.
      Here is a good bible link to many early bible translations you can switch to all different versions to easily read them in each chapter of the bible. http://thebiblecorner.com/englishbibles/thegenevabible/revelation/6.html. The Geneva bible also says one will "be received" and one will "be refused" instead of taken and left. A lot of people use taken and left to say the bad are taken. But Jesus says to watch for your lord (him) not the devil.

    4. It`s almost over http://youtu.be/5692lR_zi-k

    5. A few nights ago I have a detailed, colorful dream that I was assisting in serving and packaging wedding cake that would serve thousands. I woke up with the excitement of this upcoming wedding feast! Butterflies to see my bridegroom. I am so excited for the church to escape the judgement but grieved in the Spirit for those left behind to endure what is to come. It is soon!

    6. I wouldn't say grieved. It's going to be the beginning of the greatest revival the world has ever seen. The kind you and I always wanted to, but never did. That will be part of their testimony for eons to come!

  4. I am not getting the dates you state in point 2 above. 1260 days prior to 9-23-2017 (Rosh) comes to 4-12-2014. Passover starts on 4-15-2014. 70 years after Israel became a nation again is 2018 but according to Torahcalendar.com, which you site, is civil year 6003 and not 6000. I DO think the Revelation 12 sign is as the stars/planets show on 9-23-2017 but counting the 1260, 1290, 1335 days before/after do not land on the feast days as you state, according to any calendar I have used. Also, Hayom Yom is not a single day but a phrase meaning "Today is the day" and references a reading schedule for a year, so there are 365 Hayom Yoms in a year.

    1. Have you gathered any other insights since this comment?

    2. Ken, some new insights: I have found that the sign in Revelation 12 (woman clothed in the Sun..., See Stellarium on 9/23/2017) is even more interesting. When Jupiter enters the "belly" of the woman, because of retrograde motion, it stays there for approximately 9.5 months. This is as you might guess the average time of human gestation. Astounding! I have also found that most calendars show Rosh Hashana (aka Yom Teruah, aka Feast of Trumpets) as occurring on Sep 5-6 in 2013. The new moon technically happens on Sep5. But, according to Jewish tradition the start of Yom Teruah can only occur by two witnesses actually sighting the first crescent of the new moon. The first opportunity to do this happens on Sep 7 this year. The following video does a better job of explaining it than can I:


      If the links breaks just check out the EternalRhythmFlow channel on YouTube.com. There are LOTS of really good (technically well made, articulate, and accurate) clips there with tons of info.


    3. Pesach is on the 14th day of the 1st month of Yah's New Year. That can only be after the physical sighting of the New Moon coming out of Yisrael.
      As far as the 7 yr. Treaty goes, the tribulation does not last 7 years.... ( as far as what I have researched... Still researchingthat).
      Great info on this website, BTW.... I will research more. I pray we will all come together in learning truth and living out the will of the Torah. Shalom!

    4. Agree 23-9-2017 counting backwarrds to 15-4-2014 is 1257( including leap year) days not 1260

    5. 1260/7 = 180 weeks. 180 weeks prior to 9/22 or 9/23/2017 is 4/10/2014 - 4 days before passover which happens to be Nisan 10, 2014. According to scripture, Jesus rode into Jerusalem on a donkey 4 days before passover. These dates fit Daniels 69 weeks exactly. In Matt. 21:9 & 23:39 Jesus says "You will not see me again until you say, Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord." Could this have been pointing to a future "Palm Sunday"? If you take the scriptures as literal as possible...we don't know the exact "DAY AND HOUR"; "you do not know what HOUR your Lord doth come". Does this not mean we who study the scripture and meditate on scripture and who are truly looking for his coming - and not scoffing - cannot not know the "season". Revelation says those who read and study the prophecy in that book will BE BLESSED. Daniel 12 says "Knowledge shall be increased".

      According to the Old Testament prophecies and Daniels 70 weeks prophecy, the Jews were told exactly what day the Messiah would appear riding on a donkey, but not the exact hour.

      Only God knows when he will tell Jesus to "go get your bride" because only he is the CREATOR of the sun, moon and stars (planets).

      I think we who are looking for his return and are studying the scriptures are seeing the writing on the wall If the Bible is 100% true; and I believe that it is for many of the 1,817 prophecies have already been fulfilled (as it were the time for their fulfillment); we should expect no less concerning the remaining prophecies.

      Nearly 1/3 (27% to be exact) of the Bible is prophecy. There are 1,239 in the OT and 578 in the NT for a total of 1,817 prophecies comprising some 8,352 verses.

      Remember Matt. 24:36-39 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating, drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, UP TO THE DAY NOAH ENTERED THE ARK; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away."

      The Ark = Heaven
      Noah & Family = The Church
      God Calling Noah Into The Ark = The Rapture
      It Still Does Not Rain For 7 Days = 7 Years Of Tribulation
      The Rain/Flood = Final Judgement (God's Wrath Poured Out At The End Of Tribulation)

      This is just one of many, many examples of the rapture in the Bible.

      1 Corinthians 10:11 "Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come."

    6. I believe that the tribulation is only 3.5 years. The first half of the week was completed by our Lord already. This is how we understand it from Daniels seventy weeks. I found it from the teachings of our messenger to our age, brother branham. I am so happy with this info here, because it excites me that we are going home. We can trust Jesus.

    7. Because you have a piece of information missing!!!!
      You need to put the Dragon (Rev3-4) in to make full sense of things
      Jump to the 2 minute mark in this video

    8. "No man knows the day or the hour, but my father" is a well known Jewish idiom associated with what a Jewish groom would say about when he was going to get his bride. Normally he would get to get her in the middle of the night "as a thief in the night" (another Jewish idiom), but only hour his father said you are ready to get your bride. If the feast of trumpets is really when the rapture is taking place, that means Jesus (the groom) will be getting his bride ( the church) to take her to the wedding (heaven). So the use of the term "no man knows the day or the hour" is Jesus telling us when his return will be taking place. Some Yom Teruah "Feast of Trumpets) (interpretted: "The day of the awakening blast") which again points to that day as the day we refer to as the Rapture (Greek "Harpazo"). Search Pastor Mark Biltz (not BLITZ) who has unbelievable understnding of each of the 7 feasts. And thanks brothers & sisters. I rarely find a forum where people leave thoughtful comments that don't escalate into something totally destructive to the body. What a great group of hungry believers!

  5. I came up with the same date 4-12-2014. It does make sense that the a/c would sign a peace treaty just in time for the Jews the celebrate a proper Passover. That would mean that the Temple would have to be built and consecrated in the next 8 months.

  6. Messiah will come during the fall festivals. The question is which calendar are you going to use. There are many calendars, but only one true one (one truth). The calendar has been restored at the site http://www.torahcalendar.com and represents the most accurate representation to date. Note that the beginning is on Rom Rishon (Sunday) which is "Day 1" on the Creation calendar which took place Oct 7 sundown to Oct 8 sundown in year 3986 B.C.E. Check it out! You can go to any one of nearly 86,000 Hebrew Months in the total 7000 year plan of YHWH, including the remaining 1000 years known as the Age of Life or Millennial Kingdom (Mankind has been here for almost 6000 years so far). Yahushua the Messiah was born on Sept 11, 3 B.C.E. on Yom Teruah, and died on Wednesday, March 24, 34 C.E. The Exodus occurred during the year 1437 B.C.E. Messiah will only return during the time of the fall festivals and it appears from this site that it will be sometime in the fall festivals of 2014. This site is a great study and a true blessing! Blessings and Shalom!

    1. If the first day was from sundown to sundown that would mean the first day was actually a day and a half. And the week was 7 1/2 days. The day began with the creation of the light. This is why the light is called Yom which we translate as Day. Because the day began with light the start of the next day begins with light. Therefore a day is sunrise to sunrise.

      The two Hebrew words used mean for the sun to set and then for the sun to rise. It doesnt mean sunset then the sunset again. When Elohym spoke become light this was the first sunrise. The light broke forth beginning the day. The the sun set the it rose ending the first day an beginning the 2nd day. He uses the same exact phrase each time just changing which number is used of course.

    2. That was suppose to be "Then the sun set then it rose"

  7. I agree with Anonymous that Messiah will return in the fall. The point #1 is still applicable, since it relates to the war in Heaven of Rev. 12, which will culminate with the Antichrist starting his rule in Rev. 13. Here's how I see the timeline: Rosh Hashana, which starts the evening of 9/24/14, until Yom Kippur, 9/16/21 is 2550 days. This is the only 7 year period in the next several years that meets this requirement. The 2 Witnesses' ministry will run from 9/24/14 - 3/6/18 (1260 days. This is shown in Rev. 11, so it is chronological!) The AC shows up and kills them, stops the temple sacrifice and sets up the Abomination of Desolation on that day. They are resurrected 3.5 days later. Three weeks after that, on Passover Sacrifice Day, (the day before Passover begins) which will coincide with the gentile Good Friday, 3/30/18, he is declared King of the world and starts his 1260 day rule (possibly after his own "imitation" death/resurrection.) His rule ends 1260 days later on Rosh Hashana 9/8/21. 1290 days after the death of the 2 Witnesses and the corresponding AOD comes to Yom Kippur 9/16/21! (All of these dates consistently include both the beginning and ending dates.)

  8. I believe (Also a theory) that barack hussein obama is AC (described in Revelation as the second beast) satan is the first beast, the media is the false prophet with all the protection that it gives obama and islam is the image of the first beast (satan), after his second term as president of the united states obama will become secretary general of the united nations giving him a global position of leadership which includes all nations, that could happen in the spring of 2017, according to Mathew 24 our Lord will return after the tribulation, 3 1/2 years after spring of 2017 is fall of 2021, my suspicion is that the second coming could be on Rosh Hashanah (september 7, 2021) which is the jewish holiday of harvest, again this is only a theory for no one knows the day nor the time of the second coming of Christ, I believe that afted the rapture, during the remaining of jewish holidays in september of 2021 God will pour His final judgement on the earth culminating with the destruction by fire

  9. Disregard the year 2017 in my previous comment, it should say 2018.

  10. October New moon is 7 months after the Spring equinox and it actually takes place after the Autumn Equinox....gotta keep the SUN, Moon, and stars all in mind

    40 FORTY years after Yom Kippur War of 1973 is October

    40 years 7 months May 2014 is 66 years after MAN's United Nations signed a rebirth of Israel....could MAN sign some kind of Peace Treaty 66 years after that time with the Leader of United Nations or whatever Federation is at that time for World Gov't

    Pause for thought

    Rapture at Feast of Trumpets thru Day of Atonement time period In October 2013?

    Im lookin up!!

    1. guess what it didn't happen

  11. The Tribulation will be fulfilled I believe in Tishri-Tishri years. So at most this sign could occur at the very beginning of year 4, ushering in the start of the Mid-Trib drama.

    I also feel It's likely the 7th Trumpet could also be sounded on the first of Tishri, sounded in heaven simultaneous with the Last Trump of the Feast of Trumpets.

    New Moon of Tishri happening on or right by the Autumnal Equinox is also significant to me, cause I believe that always cosponsored to the Equinox before the cycles became out of synch.

    Problem is, there isn't enough for the Temple to be rebuilt before Autumn 2014.

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  12. nothing must happen firstly for The Rapture to take place . The Rapture is always imminent , always . Dr. John Walvoord said that when it appears from events that the Tribulation is close then The Rapture is closer as it must happen firstly (Revelation chapter three verse 10 ).
    The Temple does not have to be rebuilt for The Rapture to take place . A Seven Year Peace PLAN is never mentioned in The Book of The Revelation .

  13. we have assumed much concerning events that we think must take place before The Rapture . If Feasts influenced Paul's explanation of The Rapture in The Book of Thessalonians , Paul would have explained their import to us . He did not .

  14. I believe we depart in Fall 2013 to Spring 2014 , because we see The Tribulation about to burst forth ...Rapture must take place firstly . Also the Destruction of The United States is at hand . It must be removed for the NWO to fully come in .
    Anonymous II

    1. I think you are right .I Hope so .

  15. Go to FAQ Quiz section of http://www.torahcalendar.com and specifically look at the four questions numbers 177, 194, 207 and 209 about the interpretation of Daniel 9:27. You will be surprised to learn that the 7-year tribulation concept comes from Jesuit manipulation. That verse is about Yahushua the Messiah (a.k.a. "Jesus") and is not about the Anti-messiah (a.k.a. "antichrist").

    Messiah will return at the time of the fall festivals (Leviticus 23) at the last day of Sukkot in 2014. the entire www.torahcalendar.com website explains how this can be known. I suggest everyone begin learning from that site.

  16. If the Messiah is to fulfill the remaining fall festivals in SUCCESSION as was the case for the spring festivals, then Rosh Hashanah corresponds to Second Coming (at the end of the 7 year Tribulation), Yom Kipur corresponds to restoration of Israel after His 'old covenant people' finally acknowledge Jesus as the Word of God, Feast of Tabernacle corresponds to the start of the Millennium. So, it would be very neat if Rapture occurs at Pentecost. The Church Age starts at Pentecost and perhaps ends at Pentecost. Remember Jesus was on earth when He fulfilled the spring festivals, so it is only fitting that He will fulfill the fall festivals while physically being on earth. Not somewhere in the air as the case will be during the Rapture. The 10 days between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kipur is for the 'old covenant people' to mourn and acknowledge Jesus as the real Messiah. Then at Yom Kipur they will be fully restored as prophesied in the old testament. When He returns at His Second Coming with His Bride, He will be first in 'war mode' destroying the antichrist and his hordes. Then the Sheep/Goat judgement will take place on earth ( remember, the judgement seat of Christ taking place in heaven is only for the raptured saints to determine rewards for faithful service).
    When this is finished then the Millennium will start with the 'Sheep' people in their mortal bodies so they can repopulate the earth.

  17. The rapture is at the end of the tribulation maybe the sixth year,

    Matthew 24:29-31 KJV
    [29] Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: [30] And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. [31] And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

    1. Revelation chapter 3 verse 10 means they will be kept from the hour of temptation which is the wrath of God, look up the plagues of Moses I believe they were called the same thing, there is one rapture and there is also a judgement at the end of the millennial rain of Jesus the Christ.

    2. - September 23, 2017 is the end of the 6000yrs (120 jubilee) the war in heaven, this is when satan is ejected/judged from heavens and send to earth for a very short time. I believe also that on this day, WW3 will be on the way on earth to prepare the way for the AC to be revealed on March 31, 2018.

      - The Rapture is after the Great Tribulatin (1260 days), God will protect his people (Israel = 12 Tribes and the gentiles who join the olive tree Israel) during the great tribulation, the same way HE proteted them in Egypt, and the same way HE protected Enoch and his family, then after the 1260 days, Yahohsua will rapture them and the true Israelis who died for Messhiac will rise from their graves/tumbs and will meet HIM in heaven (clous) and HE will take them away for 15 days to prepare them for Armaggedon.

      Note: There is no rapture before or during the great tribulation this is a lie from satan, there is a restoration of Israel (12 Tribes), the two kindoms that were divided after Salomon death.

    3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VZHGQzxlT0

      Watch this with a prayerful heart.

  18. Why did God protect Noah, Lot, from His wrath and said when Jesus comes for His bride it will be the same as in those days. He want to protect the bride from the wrath. Mat 24 Jesus spoke to his disciples and they were yews they did not even know that the gentiles will be saved and the gentiles did not do offerings like the yews. Because the gentiles was the bride the church and Jesus did not talk to Church there it was only Jews. Read Mat 24 closely. And Jesus was blowing the trumpet for the bride a Jewish wedding meeting the bride in mid air , where in other scriptures He said to angels they must collect the elect. The elect was not the bride.

  19. Part 1
    I believe the rapture will take place before the 7 year tribulation.
    The pre-tribulation rapture will take place suddenly BEFORE the antichrist confirms the treaty with Israel and therefore one cannot count beforehand when the second coming of Christ will be.
    The signing of the treaty will trigger the 7 year period, but by then the Church is already gone. You have to be ready for the rapture as if it could take place at any time.
    With all the other rapture positions you can count more or less the day when He is coming at the end of the 7 year period.
    So, christians who know the bible can know more or less His arrival to earth. For mid trib position, 3 1/2 years after the signing of the treaty. For post trib position, 7 years after signing the treaty.
    So, some christians who believe in the post-trib rapture and who have not yet a daily fellowship with the Lord may think... Just relax, when the treaty is signed then we will have to be alert and have close relationship with the Lord so as not to be left behind (mid trib rapture, 3 1/2 years after signing; post trib rapture, 7 years after signing).
    The 7 year period tribulation is a horrible time. Even as early as during the seal judgements people will have food shortage, 1/4 of population will be killed by sword, famine and plague, etc.
    Not to mention the trumpet judgements (during these judgments people will seek death). The 6th trumpet judgement will close the first half of the tribulation period as the 2 witnesses are resurrected and raptured.
    By chapter 12 the second half will begin and by chapter 15 the bowl judments will commence.
    Now the whole earth will be hit, compared with 1/4 during the seal judgments.

    NOW, read matthew 25 about the 10 virgins ( I believe this refers to the pretrib rapture). But let us suppose it refers to the end of the 7 year tribulation period as some people say.
    How can those virgins be not alert and falling 'asleep' as it were during that terrible 7 year period, seeing the judments are hitting the earth. All water became blood, air pollution everywhere, soil is so polluted that nothing can grow, people trying to kill themselves,
    billions of people destroyed, their corpses rotting on the streets,
    anarchy everywhere (looting and burning), no food in the supermarkets, people do not go to work, children do not go to school, rampant crime everywhere due to massive unemployment, no electricity, no water to take a bath and flush the toilet, economic collapse, no money from the ATM machines. Business is not as usual during that period (so, no marrying, no partying, and merry making, and other kinds of pleasure seeking, but rather people are scared to death wondering what will happen next, earthquakes and disasters everywhere). However, before His sudden appearance business is as usual and people are doing their normal activities (getting married, eating and drinking, etc).
    HOW can they not be alert during the 7 year period seeing those terrible judgments, but 'asleep' until at midnight (at the end of the 7 year period) they hear that the Bridegroom is coming. Then they 'wake up' (becoming alert).
    This scenario can only be the case if they live on another planet.

  20. Part 2
    But again, I believe this event refers to the pretrib rapture.
    Some christians do not even believe in the rapture, others who believe in the rapture think that the rapture is not imminent and thus are not alert ('they are asleep') and not waiting every day for the rapture. AND then suddenly without particular warning the rapture takes place. The christians who are not alert and are not watching his coming are left behind, especially those who knowingly live in sin and do all kind of carnal things and pursuing worldly pleasures.
    Everywhere total chaos by the disappearance of millions of christians who do not report for work. ONLY then amidst the total chaos, the antichrist will appear with ingenious solutions for the worldwide economic and financial collapse. There will be a new world order. The system of the antichrist will then be in operation.

    ALSO, if rapture is post trib and believers are raptured and in their resurrected bodies( for those already dead) and in supernatural bodies (for those still alive) then who will repopulate the earth since the unbelievers will be cast out into eternal darkness. These raptured believers do not get offsprings anymore and unbelievers are thrown into outer darkness. WHO then will repopulate the earth?

    HOWEVER, in pretrib rapture, most tribulation believers will be martyred by the antichrist.
    Those tribulation believers who survive the ordeal will enter the Millenium in their natural bodies to repopulate the earth. Also, the protected remnant Jews of revelation 12 will enter Millenium in their natural bodies.
    All unbelievers (Gentiles and Jews alike) will be thrown into outer darkness. They are the goats.
    The believers and the righteous will enter the Millenium (the sheep).
    The Bride ( raptured before the 7 year tribulation), the 2 witnesses ( resurrected and raptured at mid tribulation), the resurrected old testament saints (resurrected at the end of the tribulation), and the translated 144000 Jews will rule over the nations during the Millenium.

  21. I have been thinking about this topic for quite some time now. While I do agree with a lot of what you have to say, there are some facts that make me believe that the start of the trib won't be till Sept 2017. I am referring to the Virgo star alignment.
    First consider God gave us 7 divine appointed times, the feasts. The first 4 have been fulfilled in ordered and on time. The next is feast of trumpets. The only one to last 2 days, hence no one knows the day or hour. Seems to me God will intervene on a coming feast of trumpets. I think it will be in 2014.
    After the church is taken the four horses show up with one of them killing 1/4 of the population. Another 1/3 will be killed, cutting the planet population from 7 billion to 3.5 billion. The anti-Christ will bring peace after these wars breakout and sign a peace treaty with Israel. I think sept 2017. Why?
    I don't know when the Gog/Magog war will happen, before or after the rapture. I hope before as it will turn many souls to Christ.
    Now here is my problem. After the Gog/Magog battle there is 7 years of burning the weapons. By the time of the mid tribulation this will end. When the abomination of desolation happens the children of Israel are told to head for the hills and don't take anything just go. There God keeps them for the final 3.5 years till the feast of atonement. Then Christ sets up his kingdom and tabernacles with us for 1000 years.
    So here is my simple time line. Feast of trumpets sept 2014 (24,25,26) rapture. Sept 2017 start of tribulation and peace for 3.5 years to the year 2021 (2014 to 2021, 7 years of burning the weapons). 3.5 more years to the end of tribulation feast of atonement fulfilled in 2024.
    One last point. This I copied and pasted from notes I have been keeping.

    The Feast of Trumpets is the fifth of seven feasts of the Lord aka 'appointed times' in God's calendar of redemption for mankind. As Jesus has fulfilled the first 4 feasts at His First Coming, the Second Coming starts with the Feast of Trumpets; followed by the Feast of Atonement, culminated by the Year of Jubilee. Basically, the Feast of Trumpets initiates a call to repentance which starts on the 1st day of the 7th biblical month. It continues for the next 10 days until the Feast of Atonement aka Judgment on the 10th day of Tishri and Jubilee on the 11th day.

    God states: "I have appointed to you each day as a year", Ezek. 4:6b. See also: Dan. 7:25, 12:9 and Rev. 11:2-3, 12:6, 13:5.

    God states in Ezekiel 4:6b and Revelation 2:8-11 that He has appointed each day unto mankind as 1 year, in prophetic terms. It has been proven to be thus in Daniel 9:24-25, the prophecy of the 69 periods of 7 or 173,880 days / years at Jesus' First Coming.

    That is how I get the 10 year time frame, 2014 to 2024. Let me know what you think. I have lots of notes and links that lead me to this conclusion.

    1. There were two kindoms:
      The Southern Kingdom = known as The house of Judah and The house of David
      The Northern Kingdom = knwon The House of Israel, Israel, Ephraim, Samaria (These are the 10 lost Tribes, they were taken by the Syrians and never returned to Israel for more than 2700 years they have lived and still living as Gentiles among the Gentils. Now people call it "The church".

      I am not a Jew nor Israeli as far as I know my background but this is the Truth that GOD is faithful to his people Israel (12 Tribes) that HE sent his ONLY SON, Yahshua, to die for them and to bring back Israel (12 Tribes) and to be restored back in the land of Israel.

      Jews are only from the tribe of Judah, therefore, not all Israelis are Jews

      The new covenant that God has made is ONLY with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.

      There is no space for ANY other denomination or something called "The Church"

      Jeremiah 31:31-40

      31 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
      “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel
      and with the house of Judah.

      32 It will not be like the covenant
      I made with their ancestors
      when I took them by the hand
      to lead them out of Egypt,
      because they broke my covenant,
      though I was a husband to[a] them,[b]”
      declares the Lord.

      33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
      after that time,” declares the Lord.
      “I will put my law in their minds
      and write it on their hearts.
      I will be their God,
      and they will be my people.

      34 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
      or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
      because they will all know me,
      from the least of them to the greatest,”
      declares the Lord.
      “For I will forgive their wickedness
      and will remember their sins no more.”

      35 This is what the Lord says,

      he who appoints the sun
      to shine by day,
      who decrees the moon and stars
      to shine by night,
      who stirs up the sea
      so that its waves roar—
      the Lord Almighty is his name:
      36 “Only if these decrees vanish from my sight,”
      declares the Lord,
      “will Israel ever cease
      being a nation before me.”

      37 This is what the Lord says:

      “Only if the heavens above can be measured
      and the foundations of the earth below be searched out
      will I reject all the descendants of Israel
      because of all they have done,”
      declares the Lord.

      38 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when this city will be rebuilt for me from the Tower of Hananel to the Corner Gate. 39 The measuring line will stretch from there straight to the hill of Gareb and then turn to Goah. 40 The whole valley where dead bodies and ashes are thrown, and all the terraces out to the Kidron Valley on the east as far as the corner of the Horse Gate, will be holy to the Lord. The city will never again be uprooted or demolished.”

      Ezekiel chapters 36, 37
      Hoseas whole book

  22. continuation ...
    2 Thessalonians 2

    2 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him (Rapture), we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day (Second coming Rapture) will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness (anti-christ) is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

    As we see in this passage that the second coming of Yahshua is AFTER the antichrist is revealed and destroyed.

    The purpose of God was to send his son, Yahshua, to die for his people (12 Tribes of Israel) and to bring them back from the four corners of the earth to restore them back to his Torah.

    God never created something called "The Church" this is an invent of Constantine.
    God created an assembly of people "Israel" that has been mis-translated with "The Church".

    God will protect his people Israel (12 Tribes + gentiles) for 1260 days, and after these days Yashua will send his angels and will gather all believers (the restored Israle + gentiles who are/will join Israel in the end of days).

    God will not rapture a church that fails to obay his commands and his Torah.

    They are his chosen people and no one will replace them.


    Christians/believers need to go back to their roots "The Torah" (Lukes 15:11-32).

    Jews need to accept that Yahshua is the Masshiac prophecied in the Tanaj and that he is the Redemer for the two houses Israel/Judah.

    There is NO PRE-tribulation raption:

    Matthews 24:
    29 “Immediately after the distress of those days (Great Tribulation)

    “‘the sun will be darkened,
    and the moon will not give its light;
    the stars will fall from the sky,
    and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’[b]

    30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31 And he (Yahshua) will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather (Rapture) his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

  23. Please be informed that the the phrase "for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs..." refers to The Day of the Lord. It does not refer to the gathering with Him in the air.
    The Day of the Lord is a period of God's judgements during the 70th week.

    For those interested in detailed analysis, please read the following link.

  24. There is certainly some varied opinions concerning the timing of the rapture. Consider this. The ancient Jewish bethrothal/ wedding customs are in progress with the church being the bride of Messiah. Just before he left, he said "in my Father's house are many rooms. I go to prepare a place for you...and I will come again..." The bride and groom spent seven days in the fathers house. That translates to seven years in the future when the bride will be with the groom in the Fathers house. While that is taking place in the Fathers house, the earth will be prepared for their return. A mid-trib rapture or post-trib rapture is hard to fit into the seven year senario with only a pre-trib rapture perfectly fitting into the seven years tribulation period.

  25. Hey, you Christians forgot something jes-s said :> Mat 24:22 (HNV) Unless those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved. But for the sake of the chosen ones, those days will be shortened.
    [seven years?][3,5years?]

    1. The chosen ones ( the elect ) are the tribulation saints who will accept Christ after the Rapture has taken place and possibly those left behind (the foolish virgins). Be ready or be left behind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck6aji4bdWU).

    2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB38Xjsj-hQ

    3. Sojourner to 10--No, we Christians have not forgotten about the shortening of the days, for this is clearly stated in Revelation 8:12:

      And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

      So, the days WILL be shortened to 16 hours. Thanks for reading.

  26. truth about churches and REAL testimony. To All Christ believers

    Lam 4:12, The kings of the earth did not believe, nor all the inhabitants of the world, that a foe or enemy could enter the gates of Jerusalem Rev 11:2; Dan 8:10-11; Rev 13:5-7.

    Mystery Babylon the Great Mother of Harlots abominations of the earth is mother catholic church in Rome AND ALL churches of the earth. These churches are catholics, christians, mormons, jehovah witnesses that are planted around the world Rev 17:15; Rev 12:9. All these churches spiritually connected to mother in Rome and the great city Rev 17:18; Rev 11:8.

    All religious buildings of worship on earth that represent the name of God and his word are Rev 11:2 and Dan 8:10-11> Luke 21:24; Matt 24:24. This is Ezek 8:3 outer court of God’s heavenly temple, then in Ezek 8:12 refers to religious man made buildings representing the name of God. Notice the word, "Chambers" this fits description of man made churches on earth Matt 24:26; Ezek 9:6>Rev 9:4.

    Fulfillment of the gentiles are man made churches on earth Luke 4:5; Is 14:12-13>Dan 8:10-11;Matt 13:27-28;24:24;Matt 7:21-22, 24-27; 2 Thess 2:3,7.

    This is the fourth kingdom and fourth Beast on earth. All churches have same roots as mother in Rome- ministers, priests(host), choir, music, instruments, souls of men, "the bride and groom" and many more Dan 8:12-13; Rev 18:22-24>Rev 6:9-11.

    the mark of beast is spiritual because in Rev 9, these things will seek out believers of the bible on earth which are the tares and the wheat Matt 7:21-22;13:25;24:24. The people in churches will be spiritually infected and become the army of the beast Rev 9:15;Rev 16:14; Rev 19:19>Rev 6:15-17. The churches follow the image of the beast (false lord) Matt 7:21-22; Dan 2:31; Rev 13:18.

    1. Amen...Mark of the beast is opposite to The Most High God mark...Gods mark...Sabbath/Saturday and Holy days...Revelation 9:4/7:3/Exodus 31:13-17/Genesis 2:2-3/Exodus 20:8/Galatians 6:17/Leviticus 23:1-44 take note to verses 4,7,8,21,24,32,35,39,41......satans mark is the opposite of Gods. Revelation 14:9/13:16-17/14:11/15:2/20:4....Jeremiah 10:3-4...The mark is spiritual....Gods mark is the Sabbath and 7 Holy days that we as Christians are to be keeping...Malachi 3:6/Hebrews 13:8/John 14:15/Matthew 5:17-19/Luke 13:10/Mark 1:21/6:2/Matthew 26:18/Acts 2:1/Luke 22:19/Acts 13:13-15/17:2/Zechariah 14:12-19/John 15:10/Revelation 22:14/14:12/12:17/1st John 2:1-6/Roman 3:31/James 2:10-26.....who changed Gods laws-Daniel 7:25/Revelation 12:9....(Revelation 18:4)...Beast of Revelation who claims to be God on earth (who sits on a false throne in Rome) has changed Gods true Sabbath mark to Sunday and False religious holidays as Easter/ christ mass/ Halloween/ Valentine's day....these are the beast mark who has changed times and Gods Laws.....Jesus Christ has fulfilled the first 3 1/2 years, there is only 3 1/2 left, and when you count backwards from Feast of Trumpets 2017 you WILL get your date..Gods true Passover falls on April 14, 2014 right back to the beginning in which he commanded us to keep HIS Holy Passover...Exodus 12:1-8...Gods days begin in the evening...so Passover last year began on the night of the 13th....in which The POPE GREGORY calender lined up exactly with THE MOST HIGH GOD true calender and Passover fell on the real date assit was in the Beginning...Genesis 1:5,8,13,19,23,31/2:2,3......The Jews keep the Passover a day too late, in which God said Aviv/April/Abib 14, not 15th...Anonymous, May He bless you and continue to keep you...This post is not toward you, but to help others who have not yet seen the truth.

  27. I am the witness in seeing the beast ascended out of the bottomless pit and in spiritual perdition right NOW. this perdition according to prophecy is 42 months. Soon this spiritual perdition will end. then religious leader in Rome will be spiritually infected Rev 17:11. then all catholic,christian, Mormons, jehovah witnesses on earth shall fall under the rule of the antichrist Rev 9:4,15-16> Joel 2:2-10;Dan 8:23; Rev 16:14; Rev 18:2-3;Luke 21:34-35. this is happening in the spirit realm. I am not playing games. this is REAL prophecy. I am the real witness according to Revelation 11:3,7.

    Once spiritual perdition ends, then comes Joel 2:28-29, then Great Tribulation. read Ezekiel 8 & 9 the sealing of God happens first to those that leave the temples of God and weep. then the destroyer is sent starting in the temples of God. Meaning any church building, social networks, web sites, etc, representing the name of God and his word is representing and following the image, the false lord Rev 17:8.
    Look at Matt 7:21-22 then Rev 19:12, Christ is given a NEW name and no man knows this name. Therefore the beast is removed in spiritual battle because the beast has no power over the new name of Christ nor the churches on earth , which follow the false lord Rev 17:8>Dan 7:8>Dan 8:11.

  28. Many believers come out of the man made churches Rev 15:2-3; Dan 12:7; John 11:52.

    There is no left behind or rapture before or during Great Trib Matt 24:29; 2 peter 3:10. Word of God says Christ will remove beast and false prophet in spirit realm first Joel 2:11>2 thess 2:8-9>Rev 19:20-21>Dan 7:11;8:25. this ends Great Trib Joel 2:10-11; Rev 19:15,20; Dan 8:25;2 Thess 2:8.During spiritual battle signs appear in the heavens Joel 2:10>Joel 3:14-15;Rev 8:12.

    then Christ appears in natural realm and all eyes shall see him including those rising from the graves Rev 1:7; Dan 12:2,13;Matt 26:62-64; John 5:28-29.

    When beast and false prophet remove then comes all nations against Israel Rev 11:1,18; 20:8-9; Dan 12:1. this event happening in spirit and earthly realm. then God removes the devil Rev 20:10. God sends his son with consuming fire behind him Rev 20:9; 2 peter 3:10>1 thess 5:2;Matt 3:12;Dan 2:35; Dan 7:10. the sign of Christ coming Matt 24:29- verse 30 is verse 27; Joel 2:31;Rev 6:12-14;Rev 20:9. Then Christ appears in natural realm Acts 1:11. 1 Cor 15:24-27 comes to pass.

    death and hell give up the dead Dan 12:2;John 5:28-29; 1 Cor 15:54-55;Rev 20:13.
    many rise from graves into their sinful flesh. many alive stay in sinful flesh Matt 24:40-41.

    many rise from graves into incorruptible body of Christ luke 24:39,44-46;Is 26:19;Rom 4:24;6:9;8:11.
    many alive transfigured into incorruptible body of Christ 1 Cor 15:51-52;Matt 17:2,9;24:31;Rev 14:14-16.

    All happening as Christ appears and coming towards earth Rev 6:13-14; 2 peter 3:10.

    In front of Christ dead are rising from graves and behind Christ is the fire of God consuming all flesh and the earth 1 Cor 15:50; Rev 14:17-19.

    this event happens very quickly. there will be no earth or flesh left behind 2 peter 3:10. the beast and false prophet and the old serpent, and death and hell are in the lake of fire. All people are dead and standing before the throne of God Rev 20:11-12; Dan 7:10.

  29. the chosen people of God are gathered by Spirit of God into body of Christ at his appearing Is 26:19;40:31; John 17:24; Matt 24:27-28,31,33; Mark 13:27; 2 thess 2:1;matt 25:10;John 10:2,7; Luke 17:37; john 2:21; rom 8:23;12:5. These are the elect of grace that come out or stay away from man made churches around the world. They are sealed during outpouring of God's Spirit and come out of Great Tribulation ready for the coming of the son of man Matt 24:29-30Rev 7:14;Matt 25:10; Joel 2:32; Dan 12:7,10>Matt 11:52.
    Seek God in prayer for the truth. I did hear my testimony on video just Google "Christ testimony of the churches around the world"

  30. Many scriptures in Bible added and taken away Rev 22:18-19; Daniel 7:25; 2 Thess 2:9-10.
    Take a look at Isaiah 9:6 KJV it was written incorrectly.

    the Torah Isaiah 9:5 is correct scripture from the Spirit of God declaring his son, "The Prince of Peace" thru the prophet Isaiah 2 Sam 7:12-13.

    For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, CALLED HIS NAME, "the prince of peace."

    there are no other books or teachings outside of the bible. there is no word g-o-s-p-e-l in the scriptures of truth.
    this is the word of salvation sent to the Jews and Gentiles- God sent his only begotten son and raised him from the dead on the third day.

    The death of Jesus Christ's body on the tree destroyed ALL works of the devil and ALL works of the flesh! the body of sin was destroyed when God raised his son from the dead on the third day.

    Truly, truly, I say to you, He that hears my word, and believes on him that sent me, has everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death to life.
    Truly, truly, I say to you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

    the believer's spirit comes to life when he or she hears the word and the Spirit of God comes upon their flesh by his grace and mercy thru faith. Faith is the fruit of the Spirit of God.

    then when Sprit of God comes on the flesh of the believer, the flesh dies in the death of Christ body on the tree. Then believer's spirit becomes one with Spirit of God and his word John 3:5-8; John 1:13; John 17:2; John 4:23-24. this is the operation of God for spiritual circumcision. Becoming a Jew inwardly Rom 2:29. this is according to Hebrews 8:10-12.

    the churches for many generations have been teaching Isaiah 9:6 taking the image of man into a false god 2 Thess 2:4>Isaiah 14:12-13>Luke 4:5-6;Rev 13:18>Dan 8:11-12>2 Cor 11:13-15.

    testing all spirits 1 John 4:2-3, this includes lying seducing spirits 1 Tim 4:1-2; Rev 18:2-3, 23. ALL believers of the bible tested which are tares and the wheat matt 13:24-30;Dan 8:12;Dan 9:26-27.

    the tares believe the lie of false lord and its leaders Gal 4:27,29> Rev 6:9-11>Matt 7:21-22.

    the wheat believe love of the truth and come out of ALL churches on earth. they seek God in prayer for the truth and be ready for the outpouring of God's Spirit to be protected from the spiritual plagues coming to the people in churches around the world.

  31. I will declare again God sent the man Jesus Christ and raised him from the dead on the third day. Christ came in the flesh Gal 4:4;Rom 8:3;John 1:14;John 6:51;Rom 1:3; 8:3; 1 Cor 1:29;Heb 2:12;5:7.

    The word of God became flesh.

    Here is another scripture 1 Timothy 3:16
    And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: Christ, the SON OF GOD was manifest in the flesh, justified by the Spirit of God, seen of angels, proclaimed to the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

    Christ manifested in the flesh (Fulfilled)
    John 1:14
    John 1:30
    John 1:6
    John 1:33-34
    Hebrews 1:1-2
    Hebrews 2:14
    Hebrews 2:16
    Hebrews 5:7
    1John 1:1-3

    Christ justified by the Spirit of God (Fulfilled)
    Acts 2:22
    Acts 10:38
    John 14:10
    Isaiah 53:10-11
    Romans 3:25-26
    Romans 8:30
    Romans 8:33
    1Peter 3:18
    Hebrews 10:12
    1Timothy 2:5-6

    Seen of Angels (Fulfilled)
    Luke 2:15
    Luke 2:17-18
    Proclaim to the gentiles (Fulfilled)
    Matt 4:13-16; Matt 24:14
    Believed on in the world (Fulfilled)
    Matt 24:14
    Received up into glory (Fulfilled)
    John 16:28
    Acts 1:9-11

    And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of anti christ, where of you have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world 2 John 1:7.

  32. the statement that says, "there are no other books or teachings outside of the bible. there is no word g-o-s-p-e-l in the scriptures of truth." is referring to the many published religious books. There are many translations of the bible and Torah Rev 12:9;13:8; Dan 8:11; Dan 9:26-27. the bible and Torah is the book of testimonies John 5:39; Luke 24:44

    1. Ok, so you have given us this whole description of your belief, now explain to us how you keep your jes-s in the grave for three days and three nights; that is; from Friday sun-set to Sunday sun-set ?

  33. Personally I think the author has made some brilliant points, but the marriage supper and the rapture does not have to be flowing in unison.

    Meaning the snatching out of the fire doesn't have to include leaving this world.

    The marriage supper could be 3 - 31/2 yrs.

  34. I've seen many convincing proofs given over 40 years regarding dates that Jesus is coming soon that have come and gone. People have heard shofars, picked up hitchhikers that vanished, had dreams, out of body experiences all claiming God saying Time is UP. But no matter the evidence we're still here

  35. First I believe in the pre-tribulation rapture. I believe Revelations is written out in an order that is plain to see. Chapters 1-3 the Church age (Age of Grace) Chapter 4 the church age is over, a door to heaven opens up and a voice like a trumpet calls him. (What happens to John in Chapter 4 is so much like what the rapture is described as!) Chapter 5-18 God's wrath is poured out. Chapter 19, marriage Supper, then Christ revealed in all his Glory with his saints to come down to earth to put an end to the great siege on Jerusalem. There are only two times doors are opened up in Revelations, Chapter 4 and Chapter 19. The first one is the rapture of the saints. The second is when Christ and his saints come down to rule and reign over the earth for a thousand years.

    The other thing I have to say is something that is pretty hard, but it seems to me to be correct. When the tribulation starts, that puts an end to the age of grace. I personally believe the tribulation to be solely about God purging his elect, the Jew. Prior to Jesus being on earth everything was a foreshadowing of the sacrifice Jesus was to be. When Jesus came to earth the Holy Spirit came with him, he was birthed by the Holy Spirit. When Jesus died and rose again he left with the Holy Spirit. Then God breathed the Holy Spirit to the forty, and during the age of grace the Holy Spirit resides in God's children as temples of the Holy Spirit. When the bride gets taken up in the rapture so will the Holy Spirit with her, just as it did when Christ left the earth. This means the Holy Spirit will not be here on earth during those seven years. So in my opinion, I would seriously make it your business to be ready for the rapture, because if you can't get saved while the Holy Spirit is on the earth, then what hope do you have when he is not on the earth and God's eyes are focused on saving the Jew, his elect. The Bible says we must be drawn to God. I am not saying there will be none saved beside God's elect in the tribulation, but I do feel it will be like it was when Jesus was on the earth where few gentiles received the blessing of Christ because that time was for the Jew not the gentile. There were a few, and Jesus even mentioned that he should not, but their faith prevailed and they got the healing they were seeking.

    1. Great Point Molehead! The tribulation period is the Biblical climax focusing on the Jews. At the beginning of the tribulation Gentile Christians are removed and the Holy Spirit assumes its Old Testament, or pre-Christian Pentacost position. It's almost like the tribulation unfolds where the story left off in 70 AD with the temple mount in ruins, and an empowered Roman empire at Israel's neck. Everything from then to the tribulation matters only to the Gentiles and offers no plot progression to the Jewish Biblical story.

  36. Saludos a todos. Mi nombre es Alejandro y soy Testigo de Jehová español por lo que me ha costado traducir el texto y los comentarios pues tengo 16 años y todavía ando algo corto en mi manejo con el inglés. En mi estudio personal he investigado las profecías y llegué por mis propias conclusiones (distintas a las de este artículo) que la gran tribulación tendría lugar entre 2014 y 2021. Al buscar información adicional en Internet llegué a este artículo y estoy muy contento con los resultados :)

    Quería comentarte una cosa a los Anonimous. Antes de nada me gusta mucho tus comentarios y con traductores web he estado traduciendo todos los comentarios que has dicho en esta página. En mi investigación personal intento coger un poco de cada sitio quedandome con los razonamientos que me parecen más lógicos y las partes mejor argumentadas (pues en internet he visto pocos comentarios que esten correctos al 100%)

    Sólo quería decir que los testigos de Jehová no tienen raices con Roma. Muchos nos meten en el mismo saco pero nuestra historia y orígenes son los Estudiantes de la Biblia. Por lo demás estoy muy contento con el conocimiento que he podido excavar de este tablón y de este artículo.

    Aquí hay muchos que tendremos un futuro en los que seremos hermanos, somos seguidores de Jesús y Jehová pronto nos recogerá en un único pueblo. De momento algunos estamos separados pero pronto Jehova reunirá a todos los justos y fieles de la tierra.

    Repito Anonimous que no me siento molesto por tu comentario sobre los testigos, en realidad estoy contento con lo que he leido y me gusta encontrar gente con tanto conocimiento y entendimiento como tú. Sólo veo que los prejuicios globales extendidos sobre los testigos de Jehová tambien han llegado hasta a ti. Estudia nuestra historia Anonimous. ¡Nos vemos muy pronto hermano! (^.^)

    Gracias a todos por vuestro conocimiento y esclarecimiento sobre las escrituras, yo también seguiré por mi camino en hallar entendimiento de las Escrituras (^.^)

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    1. this last message, Is this a joke or what? Obama the only way?

  38. Wonder Brain Initiative chip implant and RFID right arm physical worship AntiChrist Mark of the Beast outside will be implemented during 2017?

  39. April 17, 2014 is a very important date. It is Holy Thursday which was Christ's last Passover celebration and it is Christ's actual birthdate as approved by the Roman Catholic Church. I know this because I have been Divinely Inspired to hold a Last Supper prayer for forgiveness for the betrayal on that date so I then researched the date.

  40. It is important to understand the correct jubileecycle.







    The 6000 years will end year 2028.




    Its important to understand who the Antichrist will be.


  41. Tried this once...let's try again..hahaha

    Love reading these! Not sure if anyone posted what I'm about to write, I have not been able to read oll the posts.

    Lunar Eclipse Timeline:
    When you look at the first blood moon of 2014 on 4/15/2014, it is interesting to play a timing game. Assuming, just for the sake of argument, that at some point this year the 7 years of tribulation start, and assuming the first of the four blood moons is the beginning point of something, if you move "through" to the last lunar eclipse in the year 2021, which is November 19th 2021, you get 2776 days. When you break that number down in years, months and days you get 7 years, 7 months and 7 days (777). Now, if you move forward 7 months and 7 days from the blood moon on 4/15/2014, you land on the date Nov. 11, 2014, which puts it in the month of Cheshvan. As I'm sureyou know, Cheshvan 17 was when the flood destroyed the world. Historically, the month of Cheshvan has been a time of suffering for the Jewish people, which they call "mar" or a time of judgment and hardship. Could this be the starting point of the 7 year "Tribulation" and the finality of the time of "Birth Pains"?
    Solar Eclipse Timeline:
    When you look at the first solar eclipse of 2014 on 4/29/2014, time lines are similar. Again, assuming for the sake of argument that the solar eclipses represent something as well, it is interesting to see how things play out with the numbers. From the solar event on 4/29/2014 through the last solar event on 12/4/2021, there are 2777 days. When calculating as we did above, you get 7 years, 7 months and 8 days. When calculating the 7 months and 8 days from the day of the solar eclipse on 4/29/2014, it takes us to Sunday Dec. 7, 2014. I know we can play with assumptions and points of view all day long but what strikes me is the "8 days" and that the day it falls on is Sunday, the first day of the week or "the day after the last day of the week", however you want to look at it. It almost seems to signify the beginning of something or assume the end of something, something bigger than just the first or last day of a new week. It is as though it is striking out like an exclamation point! Granted...we are doing this just for the sake of argument but also to hopefully motivate others to test it and refine it and maybe come up their own revelations, perceived or not.

    Enjoy and God bless!

  42. I forgot to add to my post above...when you look at the lunar eclipse timeline of 7 years 7 months and 7 days (777), you notice that the day that the 7 month and 7 days falls on a Saturday, which is the 7th day of the week and the solar eclipse 7 months and 8 days falls on a Sunday.

    Oh..and I put the wrong date for the lunar time frame...it should be Saturday November 22, 2014 and not November ll, 2014. Not sure why I put that in there. Also, as a side note, the 29th of November is the last day of Cheshvan.

  43. Great Posts! What does everyone feel about the choice to be raptured or not? I believe my heart is ready to be raptured and what an honor that would be...to be a part of the wedding supper and see my Savior face to face. But what of those left behind? Who will lead them to Christ in the battle for hearts and souls during the last seven years? I believe that many will have their eyes opened when the rapture occurs, especially many in the Jewish community, but how many will be able to not only understand but also be able to lead others to the truth? I believe there will be a need for leaders.

    1. Sadly, there will be millions of people who KNOW the rapture came, but they were either too busy to accept Christ, or perhaps they thought they did, but never did. These people will immediately fall down and worship, but it will be too late. They however, will be witnesses to those who need to be saved during the 7 years. I pray daily that people I love and know don't wait. I don't know everyone, but pray for everyone. It breaks my heart that this is about to happen, and really good people will be left.

  44. Whenever Christmas returns, He asks us just to be faithfully following Him and His call for our life. Long to be with Him and see Him make this world right - but for this day I seek Him.

  45. Found this on another site regarding the 42 months and 1260 days....

    The bible refers to 42 months and 1260 days. Let’s tackle the 42 months first.

    The 42 month time period is directly related to the Hebrew calendar. Now, I’m not referring to the 30 days in a month that the flood is referring to but specifically to how the Jews perceive time on a calendar month by month, based on the lunar cycle. We could argue all day as to the actual length of a lunar month, is it 28 ½ days, 29 days, or the actual human eye visible light time period of 28.25293803 days from new moon to new moon. It doesn’t matter because there is only one time period that Jesus used, the Jewish time frame including Sabbath and holy days. All were important to Him and His fulfilling of prophecy and it makes it easy for us, we are to use the same time frame when dealing with months.

    So, “assuming” (even if for the sake of argument) this is correct, let’s look at the coming Tribulation period following the prophetic “signed peace treaty” and also look at the “signs” in heaven that God is showing us is specific to prophetic events.

    I believe that when looking at exact time events we need to look at strong heavenly signs. To make things a little easier, use a spreadsheet to list out all of the Jewish days of each month from Nissan I 5774 through Nissan I 5782 to overlap any 7 year period within that time period. Now, let’s look at the first total solar eclipse that falls within the blood moon tetrad, which is on March 20, 2015. We first need to convert this over to what Hebrew day it falls on, which is 29 Adar, 5775. Mark that day on your spreadsheet and use it as line 1 of the spreadsheet. It might be best to create a second spreadsheet and make two copies of your list of Jewish days for the overlapped 7 year time period so you have a basic source for all the Hebrew months and days. Now locate the total solar eclipse that falls on December 4, 2021. When we convert this to the Hebrew day it falls on 30 Kislev, 5782. Start your Hebrew month count on the day after Adar 29 5775, which is the first day of Nisan 5775. From that point, count out each month though to the total solar eclipse of 30 Kislev 5782. You will see that 30 Kislev, 5782 ends the 83rd month, which brings in the 84th month or 42 months doubled. But this is just to show that these two eclipses represent a sign or miracle of God. We know that in the day of the Lord, the sun will be as black as sackcloth and the moon will be as red as blood. I like to call these markers, not necessarily the exact day or hour that the Lord will return, but then again…no one but the Father knows that.

    Next, plot out all of the total solar and lunar eclipses within the time period above. You will begin to see God’s glory on an incredible level just with regard to the “heavenly signs” God has provided for use. As an example, you will see that a blood moon falls on the middle day of the 42nd month, which is 15 Av 5778. This blood moon is also the middle blood moon in a “three in a row” group of blood moons following the current blood moon Tetrad. But this is just the beginning of God’s incredible revelation given to us through His signs." Yarah Sakal

  46. Yarah Sakal cont....

    "Now, let’s talk about the 1260 days. It is interesting that we are given months and then days. There is not 1260 days in 3 and ½ Hebrew years nor in a civil year, especially when counting out exact Hebrew and civil months. I believe this is part of the revelation as well…that God wants this to be hidden and revealed to His children who care to understand it. This is why we are to use 360 biblical days.

    Using the day of 15 Av 5778 and counting back 1260 days you land on 25 Shevat 5775. This, I believe starts the 7 year period.
    Using the same day of Av 5778 and counting forward 1260 days you land on 5 Shevat 5782. This I believe ends the seven year period.
    But there are other incredible secrets and insights hidden within this time period. I will leave a little mystery though. I will give a hint…There is something very important that is revealed from prophecy, prophecy not heard much about regarding the return of Christ. That prophecy was revealed in Zechariah 1:7-21, take a look at how that relates to the day 25 Shevat 5775!" Credit to Yarah Sakal

  47. How about this, rash hashana 2014is the enforcing of the covenant with many by the anti christ, before that,the fulfilment of Isiah 17, Psalms 83 ,and Ezekiel 38. Then 7 Years later on rosh hashana the wedding feast of the bride and groom ( the 6000 year old traditional jewish wedding celebrated on this feast day ) and a week later on the 6th feast day Christ returns with the saints to end all evil and on the 7th feast sets up the 1000 year reign on earth. The only thing that puzzles me is the statement that had times not been shortened, no one would have survived, only the elect?

  48. Check this out, obviously Rev.7-9 is the RAPTURE without question, so if Rev. is written in order just before the RAPTURE is the sealing of the 144,000 Jews!!! Keep your eyes open for this sign!!! Also the RAPTURE is not a feast day event but a numbers fulfillment, till the number of the Gentiles is come in.

    1. Many Jews are getting saved now. After Rabbi Yitzhak Kadur a prominent Jewish Rabbi had his letter read a year after his death Jews started coming to Christ in droves. Could be the 144,000 prophecy. God bless.

  49. Hey so I think the rapture and the second coming are two different things. I came to this conclusion on my own because something just wasn't adding up. I searched scripture with the intent of finding out why and, I did. Here are the verses 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord, then Acts 1:10-11 9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight, 10 And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. OK so how is this different from any other theory you've heard? Play it back and forth in your head the scene from acts whats happening? Forward Jesus is on the earth his feet are touching the ground then he gos into the clouds, back he's coming down his feet touch the earth. How does that relate to the verses in Thessalonians well in Thessalonians his feet don't touch the ground and, it would make no sense for him to catch us up and then bring us right back down. Also notice Revelation 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. You don't see a thief but, in Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and EVERY EYE shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. and 38“For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away; so will the coming of the Son of Man be. 40“Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left. 41“Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one will be left. does that sound like the tribulation to you? We're not appointed to wrath, not even the tribulation saints are appointed to wrath seeing as the Jesus comes back and, actually touches down; sends his angels to gather his elect from the four winds. K I'm done just wanted to share that. God bless you all.

  50. Who are the Saints, "the Church" ?
    if the saits is the church, why the beast make war againts them and defeat them, so where that means there no rapture before the tribulation, so therefore you are living a big lie.

    The Saints are Israel the 12 tribes and the gentiles who will join Israel in the great tribulation. After the the great tribulation of those days then Yahshuah will send his angels and gather them (12 tribes of Israel) from the four corners of the earth and be with HIM for 75 days, then HE will come with all the angels and with all the Saints for the battle of Maggido, then the Kingdom of God will start in Israel because Yahshuah is the King of Israel.

  51. Luke 1: 31 You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Yahshuah. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, 33 and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever; his kingdom will never end.”

    Luke 2: 29 “Sovereign Lord, as you have promised,
    you may now dismiss[d] your servant in peace.
    30 For my eyes have seen your salvation,
    31 which you have prepared in the sight of all nations:
    32 a light for revelation to the Gentiles,
    and the glory of your people Israel.”

    Ezekiel 34:13-15

    13 I will bring them out from the nations and gather them from the countries, and I will bring them into their own land. I will pasture them on the mountains of Israel, in the ravines and in all the settlements in the land. 14 I will tend them in a good pasture, and the mountain heights of Israel will be their grazing land. There they will lie down in good grazing land, and there they will feed in a rich pasture on the mountains of Israel. 15 I myself will tend my sheep and have them lie down, declares the Sovereign Lord.

    Mark 13: 26 “At that time people will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. 27 And he will send his angels and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of the heavens.

    Jeremiah 31:31-40

    31 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
    “when I will make a new covenant
    with the people of Israel
    and with the people of Judah.
    32 It will not be like the covenant
    I made with their ancestors
    when I took them by the hand
    to lead them out of Egypt,
    because they broke my covenant,
    though I was a husband to[a] them,[b]”
    declares the Lord.
    33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
    after that time,” declares the Lord.
    “I will put my law in their minds
    and write it on their hearts.
    I will be their God,
    and they will be my people.
    34 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
    or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
    because they will all know me,
    from the least of them to the greatest,”
    declares the Lord.
    “For I will forgive their wickedness
    and will remember their sins no more.”

    35 This is what the Lord says,

    he who appoints the sun
    to shine by day,
    who decrees the moon and stars
    to shine by night,
    who stirs up the sea
    so that its waves roar—
    the Lord Almighty is his name:
    36 “Only if these decrees vanish from my sight,”
    declares the Lord,
    “will Israel ever cease
    being a nation before me.”

    37 This is what the Lord says:

    “Only if the heavens above can be measured
    and the foundations of the earth below be searched out
    will I reject all the descendants of Israel
    because of all they have done,”
    declares the Lord.

    38 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when this city will be rebuilt for me from the Tower of Hananel to the Corner Gate. 39 The measuring line will stretch from there straight to the hill of Gareb and then turn to Goah. 40 The whole valley where dead bodies and ashes are thrown, and all the terraces out to the Kidron Valley on the east as far as the corner of the Horse Gate, will be holy to the Lord. The city will never again be uprooted or demolished.”

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    22 “Therefore say to the Israelites, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: It is not for your sake, people of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone. 23 I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the Lord, declares the Sovereign Lord, when I am proved holy through you before their eyes.

    24 “‘For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. 25 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. 28 Then you will live in the land I gave your ancestors; you will be my people, and I will be your God. 29 I will save you from all your uncleanness. I will call for the grain and make it plentiful and will not bring famine upon you. 30 I will increase the fruit of the trees and the crops of the field, so that you will no longer suffer disgrace among the nations because of famine. 31 Then you will remember your evil ways and wicked deeds, and you will loathe yourselves for your sins and detestable practices. 32 I want you to know that I am not doing this for your sake, declares the Sovereign Lord. Be ashamed and disgraced for your conduct, people of Israel!

    33 “‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: On the day I cleanse you from all your sins, I will resettle your towns, and the ruins will be rebuilt. 34 The desolate land will be cultivated instead of lying desolate in the sight of all who pass through it. 35 They will say, “This land that was laid waste has become like the garden of Eden; the cities that were lying in ruins, desolate and destroyed, are now fortified and inhabited.” 36 Then the nations around you that remain will know that I the Lord have rebuilt what was destroyed and have replanted what was desolate. I the Lord have spoken, and I will do it.’

    37 “This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Once again I will yield to Israel’s plea and do this for them: I will make their people as numerous as sheep, 38 as numerous as the flocks for offerings at Jerusalem during her appointed festivals. So will the ruined cities be filled with flocks of people. Then they will know that I am the Lord.”

  53. Ezekiel 37:
    1 The hand of the Lord was on me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the Lord and set me in the middle of a valley; it was full of bones. 2 He led me back and forth among them, and I saw a great many bones on the floor of the valley, bones that were very dry. 3 He asked me, “Son of man, can these bones live?”

    I said, “Sovereign Lord, you alone know.”

    4 Then he said to me, “Prophesy to these bones and say to them, ‘Dry bones, hear the word of the Lord! 5 This is what the Sovereign Lord says to these bones: I will make breath[a] enter you, and you will come to life. 6 I will attach tendons to you and make flesh come upon you and cover you with skin; I will put breath in you, and you will come to life. Then you will know that I am the Lord.’”

    7 So I prophesied as I was commanded. And as I was prophesying, there was a noise, a rattling sound, and the bones came together, bone to bone. 8 I looked, and tendons and flesh appeared on them and skin covered them, but there was no breath in them.

    9 Then he said to me, “Prophesy to the breath; prophesy, son of man, and say to it, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Come, breath, from the four winds and breathe into these slain, that they may live.’” 10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and breath entered them; they came to life and stood up on their feet—a vast army.

    11 Then he said to me: “Son of man, these bones are the people of Israel. They say, ‘Our bones are dried up and our hope is gone; we are cut off.’ 12 Therefore prophesy and say to them: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: My people, I am going to open your graves and bring you up from them; I will bring you back to the land of Israel. 13 Then you, my people, will know that I am the Lord, when I open your graves and bring you up from them. 14 I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I the Lord have spoken, and I have done it, declares the Lord.’”

    One Nation Under One King

    15 The word of the Lord came to me: 16 “Son of man, take a stick of wood and write on it, ‘Belonging to Judah and the Israelites associated with him.’ Then take another stick of wood, and write on it, ‘Belonging to Joseph (that is, to Ephraim) and all the Israelites associated with him.’ 17 Join them together into one stick so that they will become one in your hand.

    18 “When your people ask you, ‘Won’t you tell us what you mean by this?’ 19 say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am going to take the stick of Joseph—which is in Ephraim’s hand—and of the Israelite tribes associated with him, and join it to Judah’s stick. I will make them into a single stick of wood, and they will become one in my hand.’ 20 Hold before their eyes the sticks you have written on 21 and say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they have gone. I will gather them from all around and bring them back into their own land. 22 I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. There will be one king over all of them and they will never again be two nations or be divided into two kingdoms. 23 They will no longer defile themselves with their idols and vile images or with any of their offenses, for I will save them from all their sinful backsliding,[b] and I will cleanse them. They will be my people, and I will be their God.

    24 “‘My servant David will be king over them, and they will all have one shepherd. They will follow my laws and be careful to keep my decrees.

  54. continue ...
    25 They will live in the land I gave to my servant Jacob, the land where your ancestors lived. They and their children and their children’s children will live there forever, and David my servant will be their prince forever. 26 I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant. I will establish them and increase their numbers, and I will put my sanctuary among them forever. 27 My dwelling place will be with them; I will be their God, and they will be my people. 28 Then the nations will know that I the Lord make Israel holy, when my sanctuary is among them forever.’”

  55. 2017 woman caught up rev 12 sign woman is the church in last days prophecy , e.g. the bride of christ .. or as is says the woman ,,of course we will go through some shit times first,don,t think many people from mega churches will be going any where and most other fake arse christians as well will get chiped

  56. The woman is "ISRAEL" not the church, read very careful ...

    Revelation 12

    The woman and the dragon

    12 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. 4 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born. 5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who ‘will rule all the nations with an iron sceptre.’[a] And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. 6 The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.

    7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down – that ancient snake called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

    10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say:

  57. Continue ...
    ‘Now have come the salvation and the power
    and the kingdom of our God,
    and the authority of his Messiah.
    For the accuser of our brothers and sisters,
    who accuses them before our God day and night,
    has been hurled down.
    11 They triumphed over him
    by the blood of the Lamb
    and by the word of their testimony;
    they did not love their lives so much
    as to shrink from death.
    12 Therefore rejoice, you heavens
    and you who dwell in them!
    But woe to the earth and the sea,
    because the devil has gone down to you!
    He is filled with fury,
    because he knows that his time is short.’

    13 When the dragon saw that he had been hurled to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. 14 The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the snake’s reach. 15 Then from his mouth the snake spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent. 16 But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. 17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring – those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.

  58. Deuteronomy

    24 If a man marries a woman who becomes displeasing to him because he finds something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, 2 and if after she leaves his house she becomes the wife of another man, 3 and her second husband dislikes her and writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, or if he dies, 4 then her first husband, who divorced her, is not allowed to marry her again after she has been defiled. That would be detestable in the eyes of the Lord. Do not bring sin upon the land the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance.

    Matthew 19:

    3 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, ‘Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?’

    4 ‘Haven’t you read,’ he replied, ‘that at the beginning the Creator “made them male and female,”[a] 5 and said, “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh”[b]? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.’

    7 ‘Why then,’ they asked, ‘did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?’

    8 Jesus replied, ‘Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.’

    10 The disciples said to him, ‘If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.’

    Yahshuah died for Israel, so israel can be saved, restored, resurected from her sins. God is faithful to his Bride Israel, HE is not an adulterous husbun going after another woman (church).


    ALL four of the Feasts so far fulfilled have been ONLY in Jerusalem.

    The THREE remaining feasts will also be fulfilled ONLY in Jerusalem.

    Moreover, Scripture makes clear the fact that the Rapture will be “at a time ye think not.”

    The context of Scripture preceding Matt. 24:36 leaves no question that it refers to the Rapture.

    “Two will be in the marketplace, one shall be left.” – “Two will be in the field, one shall be left.”

    Scripture and precedent therefore refute any claim that the date of the Rapture can be foretold.

    Mt 24:36 “But of that day and hour knoweth no man,

    no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.”

    Even more emphatic are Jesus’ Words as quoted in Mark 13:32 -

    “But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no,

    not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

    In His Service.

    Robert Reiland -- 561-622-8066


  60. I have lived through many predictions of the coming of the Lord and would just like to say that the most important issue is being saved and active for the kingdom. Jesus said blessed is the one He finds serving Him when He does come back.

  61. Use a date calculator (Google) that adds a number of days to a date. As you know, the first Blood Moon (Tetrad) was 4/15/2014 (History). Add 1260 days to this date. If you include the end date you should get 9/25/2017. Use this date with Stellarium (free) and center on Virgo. You will see Rev 12:1-2 fulfilled. This date (9/25/17) is during the 'Ten Days of Awe' which are the Feast Days starting with Trumpets (Tishri 1) and end on Yom Kippur (Tishri 10). These 10 days are known as the 'High Holy Days'. This 1260 span of days (3 1/2 Prophetic years of 360 days each) starts exactly on Passover 2014 and conclude on day 5 (Tishri 5) of the High Holy Days of 2017.

  62. Robert Reilan,
    The Bible passage you are referring to Matthew 24:36 is referring to a Jewish wedding when the groom goes away to prepare a place for his bride. I have read many commentaries on this and what Jesus was saying was that yes, no one knows the day or hour but the father, which I fully believe, but that doesn't mean we can't try to figure out the year. Also, if you don't believe the rapture could happen on Feast of Trumpets, then how will Jesus fulfill it? Personally, the rapture occurring on the FoT would fit perfectly because the exact date of FoT is never really know until the new moon is spotted, thus there being 2 days for celebrating the feast and not 1. That would work perfectly. I believe God is a God of order and preparedness. When he threw the Universe into existence I believe he set everything to work out perfectly from the star of Bethlehem to the Rev 12 signs. And last of all, for you to claim that the rapture wont happen on FoT is blatantly idiotic. That's as almost as dumb as predicting the day of the rapture.
    In Christ,
    Come Lord Jesus Come

  63. Well, Rosh Hashanah has come and gone again....and we are still here. "sigh"

    1. Rosh Hashanah is tomorrow... Just pray and be ready at all times. It is a 2 day celebration and the new moon was not seen yet.

    2. Maybe not this year? I am waiting to see if Rabbi Cahn's predicted financial crash on September 13 2015 comes about. This could set the world up for the one world currency, the mark of the beast and the revealing of the Antichrist by Rosh Hashanah 2017.

  64. End Times Signs and Timelines: http://www.gielow.org/Writings/Millennium.html

  65. Revelation 13

    13 Then I stood watching the nation of the Middle East. And I saw the Islamic Empire rising up out from these nations, having seven kingdoms: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo/Persa, Greece, Rome and the Ottoman Empire, and ten kings,and on his heads of these ten kings ten crowns with a blasphemous name Allah.

    2 Now the Islam Empire which I saw was like a Greek Empire, his feet were like the feet of a the Medo/Persa Empire, and his mouth like the mouth of the Babylon Empire. Then Allah gave the Antichrist his power, his throne, and great authority.

  66. 3 And I saw one of his kingdoms, the Ottoman Empire, as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the revived Ottoman/Islam Empire

    4 So they worshiped Allah who gave authority to the Antichrist and his Islamic Empire; and they worshiped the Antichrist, saying, “Who is like the the Antichrist the leader of Islam? Who is able to make war with him?”

  67. 5 And the Antichrist was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against Yahweh, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe,tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

  68. 9 If anyone has an ear, let him hear. 10 He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

    11 Then I saw another Islamic leader the Madhi coming up out of the earth, and he had two false religions Ottoman/Islam Empire pretending beeing like a lamb and spoke in the name of Allah. 12 And he exercises all the authority of the Antichrist in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the Antichrist and his combine Empire (Ottoman/Islam), whose deadly wound was healed.

  69. 13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. 14 And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the Antichrist, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived.

    15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the Antichrist, that the image of the Antichrist should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the Antichrist to be killed.

    16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark stamped on the foreheads or the right hand as a badge of the followers of the Antichrist, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark stamped with the name of the Allah, or the multitud of his name.

    18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the multitud of the Islamic Empire, for it is a multitud of Muhammad: His multitud is in the name of Allah.

  70. Revelation 17

    17 Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and talked with me, saying to me, “Come, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot which is Mecca that is in South Arabia, who sits on many Islamic Nations, 2 with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth were made drunk with the Oil of her fornication.”

  71. 3 So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw Mecca sitting on a scarlet Islamic Empire which was full of names of blasphemy, having seven Kingdoms: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo/Persa, Greece, Rome and the Ottoman Empire and ten kings. 4 Mecca was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the filthiness of her fornication. 5 And on her forehead a name was written:


  72. 6 I saw Mecca, drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Yahshua. And when I saw her, I marveled with great amazement.

    7 But the angel said to me, “Why did you marvel? I will tell you the mystery of Mecca and of the Islamic Empire that carries her, which has the seven heads: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo/Persa, Greece, Rome and the Ottoman Empire and the ten horns are ten kings. 8 The Ottoman Empire that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition. And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they see the Ottoman Empire that was, and is not, and it will revive as Islamic Empire.

  73. 9 “Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo/Persa, Greece, Rome and the Ottoman Empire on which Mecca sits. 10 There are also seven kings. Five have fallen: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo/Persa, Greece, Rome is, and the Ottoman Empire has not yet come . And when it comes, it must continue a short time. 11 the Ottoman Empire that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth the Islamic Empire, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.

  74. 12 “The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the Antichrist and his Islamic Empire. 13 These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the Antichrist. 14 These will make war with Yahshuah Messiah, and Yahshuah will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are called, chosen, and faithful.”

    15 Then he said to me, “The waters which you saw, where Mecca sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. 16 And the ten kings which you saw with the Antichrist, these will hate Mecca, and will make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to to the Antichrist, until the words of God are fulfilled. 18 And Mecca is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”

  75. Two things will happen in 2015: The Prophecy of Joel will be fulfilled "The sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord" (Joel 2:31) AND it will be a Shemitah Year in which God allows something to happen to get our attention just as He did when He punished the disobedient Children of Israel with the Seven Sets of Seven. In Sept 2001 the SEVEN blgs of the WTC were destroyed in the Islamic terrorist attack; SEVEN years later - in Sept 2008 - the Dow Jones fell 777 points in one day; SEVEN years from then brings us to Sept 2015 - Feast of Trumpets!!! Come quickly, Lord Jesus!

  76. Hello children of the one true living God, pleas epray that you will be accounted worthy to escape the hour of temptation that is going to come upon the whole world. And pray that you will also be accounted worthy to stand in the presence of the Son of God.

  77. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ - call on His name. Admit you are a sinner and need a Saviour. Believe Jesus came to Earth in the flesh as the Lamb of God to be slain for our transgressions. Believe He arose from the dead and ascended into Heaven where He sits at the right hand of God and is coming back at ANY moment to collect His believers. The Rapture is imminent!

  78. Hello children of the one true living God, please pray that you will be accounted worthy to escape the hour of temptation that is going to come upon th entire world. And pray that you will also be accounted worthy to stand in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

  79. The follow of thinking Revelation 12 tells us a specific year

  80. Shalom Brothers and Sisters,

    due to the HOLY BIBLES manifold dates (one’s lifetime, begetting age of the first son, coronation as king, reign as king etc.), the Bible facilitates the creation of a gapless chronology from the creation of Adam to the millennial Sabbath of Yahshua Messiah in the Biblical Calendar year 6001 B.K.
    You can download GOD’s timetable free of charge e.g. from following website: http://issuu.com/eli.yah/docs/from_adam_to_the_millennium_of_yahs


    Together, watching the “mysterious” signs of our days and studying the records in the Bible (e.g. Matt 24), will give insight that 2017 CE will be a year out of the ordinary!

    In 2017 CE, 6000 years will have passed since the creation of Adam, and the last 1000 years of the “7000 year Agenda of GOD” will be ushered in.

    For information regarding “GOD’S 7000 YEAR AGENDA” please go to e.g.:
    Executive Summary:

    The 7000 Year Plan of YHVH is not a new age concept.
    You come across this teaching, which is derived from the Bible, already in the Books of Irenaeus (Bishop of the early Church, 130 CE – 202 CE.

    GOD – who controls all things – reveals in the Scriptures that at ‘the time appointed,’ the “End Time World Order” will be destroyed and Jesus Christ (Heb.: Yahshua Messiah) will take over and establish His Millennial Kingdom.

    Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our GOD, and of his Messiah; and he shall reign forever and ever.

    But when will this happen? Are there any clues in the Holy Bible, which might lead to the year and maybe even to the season of His return (1.Thess 5:1, 4)? The answer is YES!

    To be able to uncover GOD’S “hidden” message, we have to start recognizing that the Bible contains accurate data. The Holy Bible is not a fairy-tale book, as some in the world try to make us believe!

    As a matter of fact, when you bring together the evidence contained in the “Old” Testament and the “New” Testament, you are able to count the years from the creation of Adam (3983 BCE ) to the Millennium of Jesus Christ (2017 CE ).

    The English e-book is a shortened version including new discernments. It contains the essence and may give you a good understanding of GOD’S plan for mankind. The unabridged original German e-book can be downloaded without charge e.g. at http://issuu.com/eli.yah/docs/gottes_7000_jahres-agenda_2015.

    Further information can be found e.g.:

    May EL SHADDAI YAHWEH, Elohim of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust, so that you may abound with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit (Heb.: Ruach ha Kodesh). (Rom 15:13)

  81. GOD’S judgment on “that day” is pictured in Isaiah Chapters 13 to 24

    Isaiah chapters 13-24 colorfully narrate the fall of Nations and of the World in General.

    The phrase “that day” characterizes a time when GOD will judge HIS enemies; with judgment directed against both the enemies of GODS’s holy people, “the nations” and “Israel” herself, or at least the enemies of GOD in her midst.

    The function of the references to the “day of vengeance” is thus, both to warn the ungodly and to assure the faithful of the certainty and nearness of their deliverance.

    Before „the Day of YAHWEH” Isaiah 13:10 portrays a very specific total solar eclipse which points towards judgment to the “heathen” nations.

    Isaiah 13:10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth (eclipse after sunrise), and the moon shall not cause her light to shine (new moon).

    The darkened sun (described in Isaiah 13:10) resembles the March 20, 2015 total solar eclipse.

    YHVH’s biblical New Year on March20, 2015 occurred on an exceedingly rare solar eclipse and included a black new supermoon. The eclipse occurred early in the morning, shortly after sunrise. It was the first sunrise after 6 months (points to the end of mankind’s autonomy after 6000 years) of darkness at the “farthest North” (where Antichrist has his “metaphorical” throne according to Isaiah 14). The maximum of the darkness took place east of Island before the track of totality reached Spitsbergen. 69 km before the North Pole, the shadow of the moon left the earth.

    The full eclipse was most visible from the Arctic Oceans and the North Atlantic, Greenland, Iceland, Ireland, northern Norway etc.

    The prophet Isaiah foretells that YHVH will overturn governments, until the coming of The King of Righteousness whose right it is. HE also pronounces troubles of states and kingdoms, which shall make way for establishing Yahshua Messiah's kingdom throughout the earth.

    Isaiah Chapter 14 describes the fall of the “King of Babylon” in the last times, who has a spirit of antichrist.

    Isaiah 14:12-15 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer (Satan empowered King of Babylon), son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

    For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God:

    · I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the (farthest) north:

    · I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;

    · I will be like the most High.

    Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

    Isaiah 14:4-6 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! The golden city ceased! The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the scepter of the rulers.

    He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and no one hindereth.

    Isaiah 17 describes GOD’S judgment on Damascus (Syria) in the “End of Times”

    Isaiah 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus (Syria) is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.

    Isaiah 24 describes GOD’S judgment on the entire earth and ends with:

    Isaiah 24: 21-22a And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth. And they shall be gathered together, (...)

    Isaiah 24:23 Then the moon shall be confounded (blood-red moon), and the sun ashamed (blood-red sun), when the LORD (YAHWEH) of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.

    That all might know that HE is YHVH and that it was HIS decree against a wicked and rebellious people.


    The ‘Signs in the Sky’ in 2014 and 2015 are harmless Foreshadows, as a Warning, pointing to the Big, Earth and Heaven shaking Events which will occur at some stage in the “Day of YHVH”.

  82. Daniel’s 70 Feasts of Weeks Prophecy Interpretation:

    Daniel’s 70 Feasts of Weeks Prophecy
    Chapter 9:24-27

    Daniels 70 (Feasts of) weeks prophecy is dealing with the last 70 years of the “Times of the Gentiles” (1947 CE – 2017 CE).

    The UN commandment to rebuild “Jerusalem” was given at November 29, 1947.

    United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine: Wikipedia, URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine&oldid=612939895
    accessed 11.07.2014.

    Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks (70 Feasts of weeks = 70 years, see Leviticus 23:15) are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and
    to anoint the most Holy. (Oct/Nov 1947 - Oct/Nov 2017)

    Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem (Nov 29, 1947) unto the Messiah* (Messiah = anointed one) the Prince shall be 7 weeks and 62 weeks (69 years): the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublesome times (1947 CE + 7 years + 62 years = Oct/Nov 2016).

    Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks (1947 CE + 7 years + 62 years= Oct/Nov 2016) shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself (the 2 Witnesses of Christ instead): and the people of the prince (Antichrist) that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

    Daniel 9:27 And he (the Antichrist) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week (Oct/Nov 2016 – Oct/Nov 2017): and in the midst of the week (April/May 2017) he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

    *compare e.g. Isaiah 45:1 THUS says the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have held, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

    For further information regarding: » ARMAGEDDON 2017 « please go to e.g. http://issuu.com/eli.yah/docs/armageddon_2017.docx

  83. Just think about this: If you were GOD, and you were getting ready to send Jesus back to the earth to call the Saints home; what evidence would you want to send to the earth? Try looking at Eze 38-39. GOD actually shows up and totally vaporizes all the bad nations that have gathered in the Valley of Megiddo to destroy Israel once and for all; except for all the bones of the warriors along with their equipment (the evidence). What do you think the people would do if they saw that war on TV ..?? They would run to any building with the word "Church" on it .. and ask, "Do you know that GOD?" Thus would begin the last harvest of believers, prior to the catching away of the Saints.

    Because the believers are not "appointed unto wrath" .. I have a hard time believing that the Saints would still be on the earth during the Tribulation. Soon after the Megiddo event, the rapture will call the Saints home. Only those who are left will experience the Tribulation. Therefore, Eze 38-39 is only the precursor to the Tribulation.

  84. Estas mismas sectas o Iglesias, haciendo caso omiso al capítulo 1 versículo 7 del libro de los hechos de los apostoles: han profetizado el fin del mundo el año 1843, después en marzo de 1844, abril de 1844, octubre de 1844, posteriormente en 1854,1873, 1878,1881,1914,1915,1918. etc.
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