tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post4547607750913744504..comments2024-03-28T21:18:57.513-05:00Comments on UNSEALED - World News | Christian News | Prophecy Updates: Zephaniah 2:1–3: A Promising Pre-Trib Prophecy Hidden in Plain SightGaryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03907296435997404954noreply@blogger.comBlogger84125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-50514331291952955512020-06-11T02:39:13.861-05:002020-06-11T02:39:13.861-05:00That is really nice to hear. thank you for the upd...That is really nice to hear. thank you for the update and good luck. <a href="https://darkweb-links.org/" rel="nofollow">dark web links</a><br />Gerard Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07674723158304931575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-45866605115851570412018-03-06T17:14:21.635-06:002018-03-06T17:14:21.635-06:00Much obliged for your close readings of Scripture....Much obliged for your close readings of Scripture.<br /><br />For whatever reason, the clearest harpazo promise is rarely mentioned by prophecy students and watchers. Probly this is because they don't understand what the modern 'Church of Philadelphia' actually is. Not surprising, because real brotherhood is essentially dead in America, and in much of the modern West.<br /><br />Rev. 3:10 makes it crystal clear that this church -- which is only part of what Christ considers His whole church -- is 'kept from the hour of temptation [trial] that comes upon the whole world'.<br /><br />There is no more succinct a promise of harpazo anywhere in Scripture, and it is further buttressed by the Lord's immediately preceding provision of an 'open door' for this church and its angel. I think that the harpazo proper is only a part of the opened door available to this group. The passage (Rev. 3:8) also infers certain opportunities and powers available to last-days Philadelphia.<br /><br />Cheers.little dynamohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11380746207592226835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-36897483359472749682018-03-04T21:13:16.480-06:002018-03-04T21:13:16.480-06:00I think that you should reconsider what the expert...I think that you should reconsider what the experts are saying as I do not know of any legitimate experts that are confused about the two events. (There are wonderful contrasts in tabular form on the internet) I say this to help you. I am not sure that you are at peace about this. I hope that you are, I do not mean to frustrate you. I think that meeting Jesus in the air is of great joy but the coming of the Lord is a time of great distress and death. I believe in a pre-tribulation rapture but I am certain that the verses you have sighted are about the end of the age. As stated in Matthew 24, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?" The things described are often clearly of the tribulation. Thus at the end of the tribulation, when Christ returns is the subject of the chapter. You are assuming that because I quoted "comes as a thief in the night" and said it applies to the lost (As at the time of Noah when the flood came as God and Noah had warned them about but the did not pay attention.) You are assuming that I am referring to the rapture, but this also, I am sure, is referring to the end of the ages. (I believe that the end of the ages refers to the time that the Lord returns to reign for a millennium.) Consider the text, which is mostly Jesus response, and then consider the book of Revelation. Much of it is a match. If the topic is the rapture of the church then why all of this Jewish centered material? The church and the rapture are expounded upon by Paul (of course as God made it happen.) Jesus was still all about the Jewish people, the rejection came during Paul's ministry. I hope that this helps and that you realize that I am not rejecting a pre-tribulation rapture, neither the millennial reign or anything about that. I am saying the Jesus ministry was to the Jewish people and His answer was to them also. And I also am saying that the book of Revelation is also very centered upon the Jewish people. Tribulation saints (those that are converted after the Jewish people realize their mistakes) are not as front and center as the Jewish people. I am sad to say that as I understand the scripture there will be many (of the darkness) that day will overtake them, that is they will be surprised. Jesus is not going to be "as a thief in the night" when He comes to get His bride. A husband and bride are looking forward to the day in an expectant way. Again, if you disagree, remember I am sharing a view that I believe to be helpful to clarifying the truth. If you disagree, I am sorry but please do not be angry. Peace to you.omnismileshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02866390169919337072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-17343253636432830922018-03-02T21:37:34.416-06:002018-03-02T21:37:34.416-06:00OmniSmiles, experts in Eschatology variously equat...OmniSmiles, experts in Eschatology variously equate “the coming of the Son of Man” as either the Rapture, when HE is coming in the clouds to gather His Bride, OR to the end of the 7 year Tribulation when He descends to the Mt of Olives. There are two separate “comings of the Son of Man” that are yet to come. Here in lies the exact problem of interpretation I outlined just above your post. Do you believe in a pre trib Rapture? Does Matthew 24 discuss the Rapture? Are you confusing the Rapture with the final return of Jesus to Mt Olives at the end of the 7 year Tribulation? Jesus does not come as a “thief in the night” at the end of the Tribulation. Everyone knows exactly when that will occur; it is exactly 2,520 days after the antichrist “confirms the covenant”. Jesus comes as a “thief in the night” at the time of the Rapture.Life.Seeker316https://www.blogger.com/profile/12896931634797749390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-12754651049186017932018-03-01T21:41:18.375-06:002018-03-01T21:41:18.375-06:00At the coming of the Son of Man the tribulation is...At the coming of the Son of Man the tribulation is over, the millennial reign begins. The tribulation saints remain but the lost are removed. This removal is not good and "comes as a thief in the night" to the lost. A dark thought, that those that had all of those signs toward repentance will not repent. omnismileshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02866390169919337072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-46199971862656220742018-02-28T10:56:19.668-06:002018-02-28T10:56:19.668-06:00I have studied all the posts and references above....I have studied all the posts and references above. I have spent thousands and thousands of hours studying Biblical eschatology. This was suggested as an accurate timetable http://daniel11truth.com.<br /><br />Although I am 99% convinced of the Pre-Trib Rapture I must admit that there are huge gaping holes and large amounts of scripture that must be danced around in everybody’s proposal for their particular Eschatological time line.<br /><br />Just look at Matthew 24. Very many learned experts believe that Matthew, being a Jew expert in short hand wrote the most comprehensive version of the Olivet Discourse in Chapter 24, but wrote it only to the Jews and purport that nothing in it relates to the Rapture. Both Thomas Ice, Chuck Missler and many other experts are united on this. In Contrast, many other experts suggest that the verbiage in Matthew 24 relates to the Rapture. This is a massive chasm of difference!<br /><br />It is difficult for me to reconcile many many differences among experts who claim to be Holy Spirit directed. It is difficult for me to believe the verses written below from Luke 17:34-36 and Matthew 24:39-40 are not Rapture verses. There are three pairs of people both in the day and in the night being instantaneously separated.<br /><br />“and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away; so will the coming of the Son of Man be. Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left.”<br />Matthew 24:39-40 NASB<br /><br />“I tell you, on that night there will be two in one bed; one will be taken and the other will be left. There will be two women grinding at the same place; one will be taken and the other will be left. [ Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other will be left." ]”<br />Luke 17:34-36 NASB<br /><br />And if the above two references are Rapture verses then how can these three couples be doing normal activities of daily living, ie, working and sleeping if the 6th Seal is ongoing. This is not logical.<br /><br />Be honest and recognize that whatever our interpretation is, there are experts much smarter than we are, that have dedicated far more time then we have studying exactly what has been discussed in these posts, and they completely disagree with our interpretation.<br />Life.Seeker316https://www.blogger.com/profile/12896931634797749390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-45920680636099638782018-02-26T16:03:54.291-06:002018-02-26T16:03:54.291-06:00Thank you for that added insight, Lyn!Thank you for that added insight, Lyn!Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05481514981109300522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-14098978563595228192018-02-26T12:26:49.764-06:002018-02-26T12:26:49.764-06:00Woohoo! Got only halfway through the article and h...Woohoo! Got only halfway through the article and had to comment! When studying the OT related to God protecting the righteous from His wrath, I studied the account of Lot. "Lot" also means "concealed; veiled" according to Strongs (https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H3876&t=KJV) and the Youngs Analytical cites that it means "hidden" (http://lynmelvin.blogspot.com/2017/09/remember-lots-wife.html).Lyn Melvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01898791437892948435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-31891664046928219512018-02-23T16:07:10.565-06:002018-02-23T16:07:10.565-06:00Thank you, Hillary! God bless you too, sister!Thank you, Hillary! God bless you too, sister!Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05481514981109300522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-82031977029002428682018-02-23T16:06:29.691-06:002018-02-23T16:06:29.691-06:00Amen, Stephen!Amen, Stephen!Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05481514981109300522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-20940774780770310592018-02-21T12:57:41.598-06:002018-02-21T12:57:41.598-06:00Beautiful and encouraging article, Jeff! Love your...Beautiful and encouraging article, Jeff! Love your insights on the "befores." God bless you & your family in these last days!Hillaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06065588848516140904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-35767726112171878612018-02-21T11:02:57.996-06:002018-02-21T11:02:57.996-06:00That glass is getting clearer and clearer (1 Col. ...That glass is getting clearer and clearer (1 Col. 13:12) Thank you Jeff! Even so, Come Lord Jesus!!StormyKnighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07212965061190065363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-79456348848879717822018-02-21T09:42:58.976-06:002018-02-21T09:42:58.976-06:00Thanks for the lead, Alan.Thanks for the lead, Alan.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05481514981109300522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-57647222522590454442018-02-21T09:42:03.494-06:002018-02-21T09:42:03.494-06:00Thanks, Brandon. Glad you enjoyed it!Thanks, Brandon. Glad you enjoyed it!Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05481514981109300522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-46495985027729374412018-02-21T08:08:54.013-06:002018-02-21T08:08:54.013-06:00New article on U.S. finalizing peace plan;
http:...New article on U.S. finalizing peace plan; <br /><br />http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/US-finalizing-peace-plan-despite-Abbas-vow-for-international-efforts-543162<br /><br />http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/JPost-Exclusive-Trump-team-briefs-Security-Council-on-Mideast-peace-plan-543193Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01151492055645528915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-73598073880248591502018-02-20T16:57:26.534-06:002018-02-20T16:57:26.534-06:00Thank you Jeff. I very much enjoy this study.Thank you Jeff. I very much enjoy this study.Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13787980881048482626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-78791050326420063922018-02-20T13:38:37.049-06:002018-02-20T13:38:37.049-06:00This is intriguing. Great find, and I am reminded ...This is intriguing. Great find, and I am reminded of the Jupiter-Venus conjunction back in November that signified our union with the Bridegroom. Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05481514981109300522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-49472122776924231342018-02-20T13:36:49.676-06:002018-02-20T13:36:49.676-06:00Powerful. Thanks, Jimboni!Powerful. Thanks, Jimboni!Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05481514981109300522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-26232315378085354852018-02-20T13:06:18.161-06:002018-02-20T13:06:18.161-06:00And also here is an article about the storm on nep...And also here is an article about the storm on neptune dying (I will include both clickable links)<br /><br /><a href="http://earthsky.org/space/neptune-dark-storm-spot-die-voyager-hubble" rel="nofollow">Neptunes Storm is ending</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.newsweek.com/jupiter-great-red-spot-storm-over-812168" rel="nofollow">Jupiters Storm is ending</a><br /><br />Are these storms signifying the end of a war in heaven which is now headed our direction? Just my two cents. Miguel Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03746399655728352376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-75605681936073752652018-02-20T12:47:11.708-06:002018-02-20T12:47:11.708-06:00Unknown, good connect. I had seen the article but...Unknown, good connect. I had seen the article but not gone there yet. More specifically, Jupiter's symbolism, as the Christ, includes the spot as identified with the wound in Christ's side. A recent video on Israeli News Live YTC titled 'New Evidence Stuns The Jewish World' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7nEltyhaYM)draws wonderful typological connections between the opening of Adam's side for Abba to draw out Adam's bride and the parallel to both the rock Moses struck to produce water and to the wound in Jesus side marking his entrance, like Adam, into a deep sleep during which time His bride has also been being fashioned for an impending wedding.<br /><br />Taking that a bit farther, was Adam's side left open by Abba once the rib was removed? Of course not. In like manner to the open wound marking the TAKING of the flesh of the giver(Adam(1st)/Christ(2nd ADAM),and the CLOSING of the wound being the last step to close that 'stage' of readying/creating the bride, wouldn't we expect the symbol of Christ's wound (Adams?) to also CLOSE immediately prior to the Bride of Christ's completion? Wow, Maranatha! Jimbonihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01172343523787885639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-42750365639457390512018-02-20T09:40:48.594-06:002018-02-20T09:40:48.594-06:00Unrelated... but I just saw this news article: htt...Unrelated... but I just saw this news article: http://www.newsweek.com/jupiter-great-red-spot-storm-over-812168<br /><br />The Great Red Spot of Jupiter is disappearing. If Jupiter = the Messiah, perhaps the time of the Messiah's body suffering is coming to a close?Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07535991854040770782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-50467599156999510822018-02-20T09:30:16.099-06:002018-02-20T09:30:16.099-06:00That is awesome.
So, is the bow of the first rid...That is awesome. <br />So, is the bow of the first rider bringing forth the anti-christ?CY and Cryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16474901632394334682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-28033355318542001702018-02-20T00:30:09.983-06:002018-02-20T00:30:09.983-06:00Ooops - Zech 13:8 above not 3:8. Close but no ciga...Ooops - Zech 13:8 above not 3:8. Close but no cigar! : )elgordohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08351703707892367937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-7009078143328933382018-02-19T23:57:05.365-06:002018-02-19T23:57:05.365-06:00Thanks Jeff, appreciate the clarification. I'l...Thanks Jeff, appreciate the clarification. I'll just add an alternative thought if that's ok. I think you have read something into Zeph 2:1-3 that isn't there. It never says the entire "nation" will be gathered AND hidden before the day of the Lord. It only says the 'shameless' or 'undesired' nation is first gathered before the day of the Lord that is coming (vs 1) and that those that seek and humble themselves within that nation may be sheltered (vs 3). As mentioned, scholars such as Dr Arnold Fructenbaum teach that Zeph 2:1 is the gathering of Israel since 1948, in unbelief, back to the land of Israel in preparation for Daniel's 70th week. They are shameless or undesired because they are still in a state of unbelief and in their sins. This lines up with the famous regathering prophecy in Ezek 36 where God says that He will regather the nation of Israel but <br /><br />Eze 36:22,23,32 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: It is not for your sake, O house of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone. I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the LORD, declares the Sovereign LORD... I want you to know that I am not doing this for your sake, declares the Sovereign LORD. Be ashamed and disgraced for your conduct, O house of Israel!"<br /><br />You'll note that God says that Israel should be ashamed and disgraced at their conduct but that He will regather them and fulfill all His promises FOR HIS NAME SAKE. <br /><br />So having gathered the nation of Israel before the Day of the Lord (Zeph 2:1), God then gives a promise to those among them that are humble, seek Him and follow His commands (vs 3) and that is "perhaps you will be sheltered on the day of the Lord's anger". This is the same promise as Rev 12:14 and by Jesus in Matt 24:15-20. A remnant (as you say) only will be hidden and sheltered, which Zech 3:8 seems to indicate will be 1/3 of those in the land of Israel.<br /><br />So what of the church? In my opinion you could say that the rapture of the church before the day of the Lord is a possible midrash (or repeated outworking) of Zeph 2 but not at the expense of the primary meaning of the passage - which is to the nation that, according to God, should be ashamed - Israel (but, praise God, one that He chose and loves and will fulfill all His promises to!)<br /><br />You have a good day! : ) <br />elgordohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08351703707892367937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-70370810951994616832018-02-19T21:24:41.492-06:002018-02-19T21:24:41.492-06:00Annabel - yes your 'goy' point is a valid ...Annabel - yes your 'goy' point is a valid one. There are circumstances however where this has been noted of the Israelites (whether the tribe of Judah, 'Israel' (minus Judah) or as the offspring of Abraham. THe link to where it notes the differences are here http://biblehub.com/hebrew/1471.htm under 'brown-biggs' b and c. Its interesting that as I was thinking about it further last night, I recalled a number of circumstances in the OT where God noted the shame of Judah and/or Israel, and about exposing their shame. Scriptures for example:<br />- Ezekiel 16:1-5 - Jerusalem was considered unwanted/unloved from birth. And in vs 28, played the harlot/adulteress wife and it was the Philistines looking with shame on her, yet she was not satisfied with her adulteress ways.<br />- Ezekiel 16:37 - God exposes Israels 'nakedness'. In vs 52 God tells her to 'be ashamed' at her actions.<br /> <br />Probably the key point is that regardless of whether vs 1 is speaking of Israel or the ungodly gentile nations,I believe the language is there to act as an opposite to the 'humble nation' which could be believers, or thinking about this further - could also refer to the remnant of Israel who become believers during the tribulation (noted as being humble as having to humble themselves from their shame...perhaps?) and are protected (hidden) in the day of the Lords anger. Could be even referring to the 144 thousand who are sealed from Israel, although that would be conjecture at this stage.<br /><br />RyanThrough and Throughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08518570218409369814noreply@blogger.com