tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post811354700048531978..comments2024-03-28T19:45:19.295-05:00Comments on UNSEALED - World News | Christian News | Prophecy Updates: Church of the Firstborn (Part I)Garyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03907296435997404954noreply@blogger.comBlogger116125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-8459221727245912262018-06-28T15:16:59.071-05:002018-06-28T15:16:59.071-05:00Cathi G., et al, Daniel over at his Informed Chris...Cathi G., et al, Daniel over at his Informed Christians YTC, did a good video, this past February, as the stellar procession touched upon an Ebenezer moment. I had never been aware of this dynamic and was very blessed. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rwDUb6pk4w)<br /> <br />As we all wrestle through these moments, plodding forwards, it is so very blessed to encounter our Abba's call that we honor the moments which signify milestones in the journey and Divine Providence to THAT very point. It POWERFULLY undergirds our faith and our witness when we encounter and memorialize such moments. May our next leg of the journey be a gentler path with this Ebenezer understanding tucked into our pocket and a trail of Ebenezer Stones trailing behind us, Maranatha! Jimbonihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01172343523787885639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-59660486311779290072018-06-26T11:36:03.265-05:002018-06-26T11:36:03.265-05:00Here is something to consider, ponder and pray abo...Here is something to consider, ponder and pray about. Compare the following from Revelation 15 and Acts 2, <br /><br />(REVELATION 15:2) uses the word *fire* as "πυρί" meaning *with fire*,<br /><br />θάλασσαν, ὑαλίνην μεμιγμένην πυρί<br />a sea of glass mingled with fire <br /><br />Strong's 4442 [e]<br />pyri<br />πυρί <br />with fire<br /><br />(ACTS 2:3) uses the word *fire* as "πυρός" meaning *of fire*,<br /><br />γλῶσσαι ὡσεὶ πυρός<br />tongues as of fire<br /><br />Strong's 4442 [e]<br />pyros<br />πυρός <br />of fire<br />N-GNS<br />N-DNS<br /><br /><br />These are the same root words with slight variation to the use of "with" and "of" via the suffex if not mistaken. (I am not a Greek scholar, *yet*) <br /><br />We all know that Luke was not speaking of actual flames of burning fire in Acts but of the Holy Spirit having the appearance "as of fire". Since the same word is used again in (Revelation 15:2), I believe that the sea of glass that is mingled with fire may be a picture of the glorified (translated) saints joined by the spirits of the martyrs from the tribulation before the throne of G-D. <br /><br />The murdered tribulation saints would (at this point) be with the LORD in spirit not yet being given their glorified bodies. The body of Christ is One therefore they are mingled with the sea that comes from every nation, tribe and tongue. (Gentiles) And the saints that are the sea of glass are there as they were translated before the first seal was opened by Jesus.<br /><br />One kingdom and body but in different states due to the timing. <br /><br />Something to ponder and pray about. Pastor Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09311564658668497654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-39746910020474161702018-06-26T10:38:31.737-05:002018-06-26T10:38:31.737-05:00@Tracy, Glad to see that we're offering lots o...@Tracy, Glad to see that we're offering lots of triggers for conversation and fellowship! Best of all, it points us all back to the LORD, His Word and the Holy Spirit.<br /><br />I too am digging deeper on the saints seen in (Revelation 15) and will post that commentary as it is complete.<br /><br />Blessings<br /><br />PRPastor Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09311564658668497654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-70516034094976530692018-06-26T10:12:35.634-05:002018-06-26T10:12:35.634-05:00Tracy.....I just love reading your posts. They ar...Tracy.....I just love reading your posts. They are always well thought out, scripturally backed, and lovingly presented. You can feel the sincerity from your heart.<br /><br />But the main thing is that your studies and my studies line up as if we had the same teacher. Which we do....our bibles. StanFosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14000634427346272457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-21043424214037852022018-06-25T20:23:16.335-05:002018-06-25T20:23:16.335-05:00After much study, prayer, and fellowship, I have c...After much study, prayer, and fellowship, I have come to the same conclusion. I believe Revelation chapter 4 is a scene from after the resurrection/rapture of the saints. Yes, the 24 elders are there and have their crowns and white garments on. Before, I didn’t know where Jesus was in this chapter, but now I see he is sitting on the throne with the Father. Revelation 3:21 just told us, “To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and SAT DOWN WITH MY FATHER ON HIS THRONE. And Pastor Rich, just like you stated, it is the SEA OF GLASS that represents the saints! <br /><br />But, while I may have hastily implied that perhaps Chapter 4 was out of sequence, I now strongly believe it is. Among the other several reasons I have already mentioned about why I think this scene could only be happening after the tribulation and Jesus’ 2nd coming, the one I would like to point out is one you just hinted at Pastor Rich. <br /> <br />Revelation 15:1-2 says, “I saw in heaven another great and marvelous sign seven angels with the seven last plagues – last, because with them God’s wrath is completed. And I saw what looked like a sea of glass mixed with fire and standing beside the sea, those who had been victorious over the beast and his image and over the number of his name. …”<br /><br />Please note the differences between the sea of glass described in Rev 15 and Rev 4. In Revelation15:1-2, the sea of glass is mixed with FIRE but the sea of glass in Revelation 4:6 described as being clear as CRYSTAL. “And before the throne there was a sea of glass unto crystal…” FIRST comes fire. THEN with the cleansing of the fire, comes purity clear as crystal. The sea of glass would not be mixed with fire after it was just described as being unto crystal. It was already purified and before the throne of God. Therefore, the sequence is out of order. <br /><br />Also, Revelation 15 is the scene that occurs just BEFORE the wrath of God is poured out. As John is telling us what he sees, only just then…right before God’s wrath, does he say he saw the sea of glass in heaven…like it just appeared then, after the seals and trumpets have happened! I don’t think that is a coincidence. The rapture and resurrection just happened and the saints are in heaven represented as a sea of glass being purified with fire to be made unto crystal! We are not appointed to wrath, and as such, all the saints (and that is probably why there is a special reference to those who were resisted the beast) are now in heaven. <br /><br />I know this message will be highly disputed, but nonetheless, I felt compelled to share it. Funny enough, I have been praying and debating all day as to whether or not to post this comment as I had already made the connection with the sea of glass. I was even reading from Ezekiel 2 & 3 and wondering about this…then Pastor Rich’s comment came, and I knew I what I was expected to do. <br /><br />Thank you for allowing me to share my opinion on a site such as this which has such a huge pre-trib following. God bless! Tracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17404819077384421025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-43316709549819133222018-06-25T18:58:13.399-05:002018-06-25T18:58:13.399-05:00Wow! This has REALLY gotten to be a long thread!
...Wow! This has REALLY gotten to be a long thread!<br /><br />Awesome!<br /><br />Quoting you elgordo, <br /><br />"The crowns/rewards are not given to the church until the Lord comes for His bride. Therefore, if you believe that the elders represent the church as I and others do, the Lord has already come and raptured the church by Revelation 4 - before any seal, trumpet or bowl."<br /><br />BINGO! YAHTZEE!!<br /><br />The picture we have about the Throne of G-d is, <br /><br />1. The throne, "with one seated on the throne" (Revelation 4:2)<br />2. 24 thrones around the throne (Revelation 4:4)<br />3. 24 elders seated on the thrones w/white robes with crowns (Revelation 4:4)<br />4. 7 burning torches of fire aka 7 spirits of G-d (Revelation 4:5)<br /> <br />...and most importantly to this point...<br /><br />6 "and before the throne there was as it were a sea of glass, like crystal."<br /><br />(Revelation 4:6a)<br /><br />Sea of glass - The sea, when not named, is often an allusion to peoples. Glass is made of what? Sand. If one takes a sea of sand (silica) and puts it through intense fire and heat what do you get? Glass. Wikipedia has an interesting description of this,<br /><br />"Fused quartz or fused silica is glass consisting of silica in amorphous (non-crystalline) form. It differs from traditional glasses in containing no other ingredients, which are typically added to glass to lower the melt temperature."<br /><br />Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fused_quartz<br /><br />This is a picture of purity, uniformity, holiness. "It differs from traditional glasses in containing no other ingredients, which are typically added to glass to lower the melt temperature." NO LEAVEN! Complete purity!!<br /><br /><br />The seven torches or spirits of G-d are placed in very close proximity to the sea of glass which well mirrors the golden lampstands (churches) of (Revelation 2:1 ESV). I too believe the sea of glass is the resurrected and raptured Church, the first parts of the body of Christ taken before the Millennial reign. This is further supported in (Revelation 15:1-2 ESV) where we see a similar scene where the "sea of glass" is mingled with fire, "and also those who had conquered the beast and its image and the number of its name, standing beside the sea of glass with harps of God in their hands." (Revelation 15:2 ESV) Here we're seeing a division (ranks) of peoples (saints).<br /><br />So, yes. Revelation 4 is showing us a pre-tribulation raptured Church complete with seven torches (lamp stands), 24-elders and the Church proper before the throne. No tribulation saints or 144,000 of Israel (yet). <br /><br />Finally and sadly, I missed the AB's last night. Will have to catch it on YT. Pastor Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09311564658668497654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-33411451859674992972018-06-25T02:57:56.921-05:002018-06-25T02:57:56.921-05:00Alan R says, "2 Timothy 4:8 (ESV):
"8 He...Alan R says, "2 Timothy 4:8 (ESV):<br />"8 Henceforth there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, will award to me on that day, and not only to me but also to all who have loved (Strong's Greek 25: "love", "long for") his appearing."<br /><br />I would submit that an "addiction" to the coming of our Lord is not an addiction at all, but rather the ONLY thing that we should be wanting, breathing, working for, looking toward. God bless you.<br /><br />I reply, Loving something, and being addicted to something, are not at all the same thing. Love is good, addiction is more like lust and is bad. Please prayerfully consider my very short article on the subject here:<br /><br />https://rapturejunkies.blogspot.com/2018/01/love-or-lust.html?view=snapshotAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08239884420687883840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-69534973339313648702018-06-25T01:24:30.342-05:002018-06-25T01:24:30.342-05:00Hi Ryan,
the 24 elders have victors crowns. The c...Hi Ryan,<br /><br />the 24 elders have victors crowns. The crowns/rewards are not given to the church until the Lord comes for His bride. Therefore, if you believe that the elders represent the church as I and others do, the Lord has already come and raptured the church by Revelation 4 - before any seal, trumpet or bowl. <br /><br />And yes, it was a good game... the ABs played well : ) elgordohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08351703707892367937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-31565650541359748932018-06-24T21:47:17.403-05:002018-06-24T21:47:17.403-05:00amen and amen Pastor Richamen and amen Pastor RichThrough and Throughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08518570218409369814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-91648876379530546522018-06-24T21:07:34.778-05:002018-06-24T21:07:34.778-05:00@Barry, just a friendly heads up that you have rep...@Barry, just a friendly heads up that you have repeatedly violated our <a href="https://www.unsealed.org/p/about-us.html#commentpolicy" rel="nofollow">commenting policy</a> and have been temporarily banned. If you would like to have your account unlocked or would like more information, feel free to reach out to me at gary@unsealed.org.<br /><br />To be crystal clear: you haven't been banned for having different views, as there are plenty who comment with different views, but do so in a friendly, respectful way.Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03907296435997404954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-65164384659580145672018-06-24T20:58:43.577-05:002018-06-24T20:58:43.577-05:00The Word of G-d for the people of G-d.
Amen.The Word of G-d for the people of G-d.<br /><br />Amen.Pastor Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09311564658668497654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-81415215708315675632018-06-24T20:58:12.106-05:002018-06-24T20:58:12.106-05:00(Ephesians 4:29-32)(Ephesians 4:29-32)Pastor Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09311564658668497654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-40082369564719943202018-06-24T20:56:15.682-05:002018-06-24T20:56:15.682-05:00(James 5:7-9)(James 5:7-9)Pastor Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09311564658668497654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-2422012730000997522018-06-24T19:47:52.190-05:002018-06-24T19:47:52.190-05:002 Timothy 4:8 (ESV):
"8 Henceforth there is l...2 Timothy 4:8 (ESV):<br />"8 Henceforth there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, will award to me on that day, and not only to me but also to all who have loved (Strong's Greek 25: "love", "long for") his appearing."<br /><br />I would submit that an "addiction" to the coming of our Lord is not an addiction at all, but rather the ONLY thing that we should be wanting, breathing, working for, looking toward. God bless you.<br /><br /><br />AlanRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12307110924925584381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-24925691354658708282018-06-24T16:01:55.119-05:002018-06-24T16:01:55.119-05:00PS> You are the first person I thought of when...PS> You are the first person I thought of when I posted that question. Glad to see I know you well enough to you you'd post that link! Thanks for chiming in!!Pastor Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09311564658668497654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-57153890458013084592018-06-24T16:00:54.236-05:002018-06-24T16:00:54.236-05:00Hi Annabel!
Actually I already have checked out ...Hi Annabel! <br /><br />Actually I already have checked out the video at "https://youtu.be/11eB3AtlTW8" and was intrigued by their findings. I'm doing a separate study that is looking at this as well. Thanks!Pastor Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09311564658668497654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-56233039874436618862018-06-24T13:30:27.155-05:002018-06-24T13:30:27.155-05:00Through and Through says, "All silliness asid...Through and Through says, "All silliness aside Barry/Gerry (at least you are not Chuckles today)..."<br /><br />I reply, It is wrong for you to suggest that Barry, Chuckles, and I are one and the same person. I am a 64-year-old man who lives in Franklin, Kentucky; Chuckles is my 12-year-old son (whose posts reflected his own views); and Barry is someone from somewhere else whom I have never met.<br /><br />I realize that the things that Barry says are similar to things Chuckles and I have said, but perhaps that's simply because the Holy Spirit is prompting all three of us to reach out to others in the Body of Christ with the same needed thoughts, Matthew 18:16. <br /><br />The Body has many members, and those members differ one from another in experience, education, holiness, disposition, and many other ways. It is not surprising that some members of the Body find the purported Rev 12 Sign exciting and convincing, while others think it balderdash; what is needed is more discussion of such points, not less, Proverbs 27:17. The community here ceases to be a Church when members of the Body who see things differently are excluded from the conversation, or when certain topics are considered "off limits".<br /><br />Through and Through also says, "p.s. - yes yes and yes, I am addicted to looking for the coming of my Saviour!"<br /><br />I ask, Are you sure such an addiction is a good thing? I have observed a number of unhealthy effects of such addiction, as have Barry and Chuckles. Please give some prayerful consideration to the brief articles on my blog that describe those unhealthy effects:<br /><br />https://rapturejunkies.blogspot.com/?view=snapshot<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08239884420687883840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-45036438002698612072018-06-24T08:27:52.655-05:002018-06-24T08:27:52.655-05:00(Romans 16:17-20)(Romans 16:17-20)Pastor Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09311564658668497654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-85440930023984123762018-06-24T07:52:56.599-05:002018-06-24T07:52:56.599-05:00Awhile ago I this website was saying that Isaiah 1...Awhile ago I this website was saying that Isaiah 17 is a prophecy about the Syrian war in our times.<br /><br />Read the entire passage, not just the first verse. It mentions nations that don't exist anymore (Ephraim, the cities of Aroer, Aram). It cannot possibly be applied to our time. All over Isaiah, God says that he is going to bring Assyria to smash the nation of Aram (Damascus was their capital) . Indeed, the Assyrians came and decimated Damascus and the nation of Aram. That's why there are no Arameans today. So Isaiah 17 was fulfilled about 2700 years ago by Assyria. It has nothing to do with our generation and your sign.<br /><br />Isaiah 17 is not an end times prophecy.<br /><br />Seriously dude, before you lead others into a spiritual wasteland and bring the entire Bible into disrepute, you actually need to read it cover to cover. Don't just comb through it for verses that can be manipulated for support your theories. You need to try to understand what you are reading.<br /><br />With the Magi, in the Gospel the star let to Jesus. But lets imagine another make believe scenario, imagine the Magi followed the star and it happened to lead to an empty manger. What should the Magi do then? Should they not just face reality and say, "Oops, sorry, the star didn't mean anything" and then get on with their lives.<br /><br />Or should they then pull out their Bibles pull verses out of context, cook up numerical coincidences, link them to astrology and get a crowd of people to follow a new star to another empty manger. Then when they get to the next empty manger, they repeat the process over and over again. And they get people to follow them to empty manger after empty after empty manger after empty manger. This is what you guys do.<br /><br />This is a spiritual wasteland. If this is all that Christianity has to offer, then we have a desolate religion indeed.<br /><br />There is one verse in the Bible that I think might actually apply to this sign.Isaiah 44:24-25 says, "So said the Lord, your Redeemer, and the One Who formed you from the womb, "I am the Lord Who makes everything, Who stretched forth the heavens alone, Who spread out the earth from My power.<br /><br />Who frustrates the signs of imposters, and diviners He makes mad; He turns the wise backwards, and makes their knowledge foolish."<br /><br />This describes your sign. It has been frustrated by God because its an imposter. It rests on the pillars of falsehood.Barryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14779965359458646338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-18168193093731406232018-06-24T07:49:40.464-05:002018-06-24T07:49:40.464-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Barryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14779965359458646338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-78992171508191052992018-06-24T07:26:55.398-05:002018-06-24T07:26:55.398-05:00Through and Through - I am not mocking you. Not ev...Through and Through - I am not mocking you. Not everything that is painful for you to hear is bad for you. Rebuke is good for you. Read the writings of King Solomon.<br /><br />Ecclesiastes 7:5 says, "It is better to heed a wise man’s rebuke than to listen to the song of fools."<br /><br />I am trying to give you a realty check so that you don't waste your life in a spiritual abyss.<br /><br />You are not the same as the Magi. All the Magi did was follow the star. This website and others in the Revelation 12 movement do something much more destructive. To support your date speculation, you routinely quote the Bible out of context and pervert the message that God originally intended. The Magi did not do this. They just followed a star.<br /><br />Do you realize that when you read the works of prophets like Isaiah, Micah, Jeremiah, Hosea etc. You are supposed to read it side by side with the books of Kings and Chronicles. Do you know why? <br /><br />These books give the historical context of those prophecies. Why do you think Kings and Chronicles are included in the Bible? If you take the prophets out of their historical context, you will get yourself into big trouble.<br /><br />Do you realize that about 80-90% of what's written in the pre-exilic prophets eg. Isaiah, Jeremiah etc. Was fulfilled when Assyria and Babylon came and decimated the fertile crescent. Only about 10-20% of their prophecies can be applied to the second temple period and perhaps our period.<br /><br />With the pre-exilic prophets, you can basically sum up their books as follows... First Temple Period Israel is sinning real bad (stealing, idolatry, human sacrifice, adultery etc.). GOd sends His prophet to tell the people that they better correct their evil ways otherwise He is going to bring Assyria and/or Babylon as his whip to punish them. The prophet describes all the bad things Assyria and Babylon is going to do to them. Authors on this website will them take these verses out of context and use them to support their Rev 12 theories. Those prophecies were fulfilled 2800-2400 years ago! They cannot possibly have anything to do with your sign in 2017/2018.<br /><br />So when then the Bible talks about "the day of the Lord" (and other end times terminology), sometimes it's talking about the coming of Assyria, sometimes it's talking about the coming of Babylon and sometimes its talking about the final end times war of Gog and Magog. You have to understand the context. You can't just pluck verses out, you have to read it cover to cover.<br /><br />You guys are using and abusing the word of God to lead people deeper and deeper into a spiritual wasteland. If you are going to use the Bible to support your theories, atleast be responsible enough to quote verses in context.<br /><br />So many times, to support its date speculation, this website quotes these "day of the Lord" verses from the Prophets and then you come up with some numerical coincidence (that can involve a concordance or even the time on your microwave) or some star alignment, and then you use this to speculate a date. But then when I go read the verse in the Prophets, it's clearly talking about the coming of Assyria or Babylon and it cannot possibly apply to our period. So your date speculation is based on false premises. That's why all your dates flop.<br /><br />You care more about your sign than the word of God. You rape the word of God for anything and everything that can be used to support your theories. The Magi didn't do this.Barryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14779965359458646338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-8884210229170631142018-06-24T07:23:58.919-05:002018-06-24T07:23:58.919-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Barryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14779965359458646338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-65234752415613847822018-06-24T06:58:38.263-05:002018-06-24T06:58:38.263-05:00Gerry, Yes. Unfortunately, they misapprehend my co...Gerry, Yes. Unfortunately, they misapprehend my comments. I am just trying to give some of the lost souls here a wake up call, for their own good.<br /><br />Proverbs 15:31-32 says, "He who listens to life-giving reproof will dwell among the wise. He who ignores discipline despises himself, but whoever heeds correction gains understanding".<br /><br />Unfortunately, this is a forum is a place where people prefer to ignore reproof, rather than to grow from it.Barryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14779965359458646338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-36331771879777051792018-06-24T04:27:10.182-05:002018-06-24T04:27:10.182-05:00Dear friend, check out this video about "One ...Dear friend, check out this video about "One third of the stars falling to earth in 2018!" https://youtu.be/11eB3AtlTW8 and compare with some of the recent contributions on EXPITALY / Real Planet X Nibiru / Planet X Physicist channels... Just saying. MARANATHA! :)Annabelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04642374040696665532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923571518579487836.post-36385838851018423782018-06-24T03:50:39.515-05:002018-06-24T03:50:39.515-05:00p.s. - yes yes and yes, I am addicted to looking f...p.s. - yes yes and yes, I am addicted to looking for the coming of my Saviour!Through and Throughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08518570218409369814noreply@blogger.com