“Eternal Peace”? Israel-Hamas Peace Agreement Rapidly Moving Forward
OCTOBER 13TH UPDATE: All 20 living hostages have been released, immediately followed by an address by President Trump to the Israeli Knesset. Trump then traveled to Sharm El-Sheikh, Egypt—on the Red Sea—for a historic signing ceremony with many nations. Cosigners included Erdogan of Türkiye, El-Sisi of Egypt, and the Emir of Qatar. Dozens of other leaders were in attendance, including leaders of Italy, France, Canada, the UK, Indonesia, and other European and Arab nations. Significantly, the president of Indonesia may be making a historic visit to Israel tomorrow as a possible sign of his country’s joining the Abraham Accords—possibly the most significant new addition given Indonesia’s status as the world’s largest Muslim population.
At the signing, Trump proudly proclaimed: “This took 3,000 years to get to this point. It’s gonna hold up, too.” While we are all overjoyed that the hostages have been freed and the fighting has ceased (for now), the 20-point plan effectively freezes Israel out of its own land indefinitely, and, in actuality, cannot “hold up” because any deal that violates the everlasting land covenant that God made with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob will find itself with one itty-bitty problem: the infinite power of the One and Only promise-keeping, covenant-keeping God whose throne is set above all other thrones and powers.
What has been described by the President as a bridge to “eternal peace” that will end a “3,000 year catastrophe” is now moving apace at rapid speed. Both Hamas and Israel have purportedly [and tentatively] agreed to the plan, along with numerous other countries. Such a deal might quickly fall apart, but the timing is significant and all eyes are now on the Middle East.
From the perspective of students of Bible prophecy, the critical components of the 20-point deal include points #16 (barring Israel from [ever?] annexing Gaza or any territory thereof) and #18–20 (finally establishing a “credible pathway” to Palestinian statehood). From Heaven’s perspective, Israel’s agreement with this deal might be seen as breaking the everlasting land covenant (Gen. 13:14; Ps. 105:8–11), which inevitably results in judgment on all the nations of the world (Jl. 3).
LOCKED IN: Trump has locked the Middle East into a peace framework with Qatar, Jordan, UAE, Indonesia, Pakistan, Türkiye, Saudi Arabia and Egypt all on record in support...
— Observing Consciousness (@holonabove) September 30, 2025
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I would note that points #9 and #15 are also potentially quite significant. Trump will literally be the transitional leader of Gaza as chair of the Board of Peace.
ReplyDeleteGary, I appreciate the good work as always brother! It feels like something has shifted in the last month and that we are heading into the final phase before our Lord’s return. This is another big development. I’m going to say the quiet part out loud, and ask, at what point do we seriously consider Donald Trump as a candidate for the antichrist? I always believed he was a long shot, both, because of his age, and his negative reception by the American media, but is it time to reconsider? Is he possibly the beast, or is he setting the stage for him? I would be interested to hear your thoughts. Obviously if he pulls off a peace deal here, and possibly, another one with Ukraine and Russia, the world’s perception of him could change dramatically.
DeleteIt definitely feels like a huge shift. And the unusual hyper-focus on FoT makes me think there was a spiritual attack afoot. Maybe a last-ditch effort by the enemy to dissuade, discourage, and confuse the Church?
DeleteI'll just say this: I'm watching things closely and all possibilities are on the table. Notably, Kushner is in Egypt to oversee talks and won't be leaving until the deal is concluded; meanwhile, Egypt has invited Trump to come if the deal goes through. Cries of "peace and security" forthcoming.
Kushner (actual author of Abraham Accords) is the one I watch. He's the one that gets people to the table and finalizes things. He is the one that everyone likes and or respects at the very least.
DeleteI say this knowing that we will likely leave right before or as we find out for sure who the actual AC is.
Meanwhile, the U.S. government continues to toy with "disclosure." Between Rep. Burchett's recent comments claiming there are known alien bases underwater and the 3l/ATLAS news, it is clear the alien deception is well underway. I have little doubt this will be a core component of the strong delusion of 2 Thess. 2. We shall see.
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The more I think about it. The angels from Heaven looked odd and scary and If the fallen angels claimed to be aliens from Saturn or whatever. People would be willing to believe the alien than a fallen so the deception would work very well and I am guessing that the alien/fallen would blame repentant believers for holding back the paradise on Earth or something. Maybe they will encourage the persecution after the conclusion of Abraham Accord or the two state solution. The Lord would bring out his punishment on the countries involved and the aliens might use that as the excuse to go after believers.
ReplyDeleteOf course, this is all theory as only time will tell what happens. Still, very good reminder to keep your heads up to the sky.
As I shared in Peace & Safety then the “Aliens” Come & We GO! , our President Trump is under the deception that he must be the World Peace Maker to please God and win the approval of the fallen angel Galactic Federation.
ReplyDeleteAs you point out, Gary, it is the United States at the helm of the final dividing of Israel and eventually Jerusalem. And, yet, most Christians do not believe the many prophecies foretelling that this nation will be DIVIDED PHYSICALLY (along with all the other division as pointed out by Greg Lauer in his article). It is my understanding via the Spirit of the Lord that Those in Christ will still be on earth when the New Madrid fault line earthquake occurs in order to AWAKEN THE SLEEPERS BEFORE THE RAPTURE. So my question is:
Will the Rapture Dominoes Fall THIS Fall?
I believe in the division of Israel. Absolutely! It must be divided and it will be divided by G-D Himself on the Day of the LORD,
Delete4 On that day his feet shall
stand on the Mount of Olives
that lies before Jerusalem
on the east, and the Mount
of Olives shall be split in two
from east to west by a very
wide valley, so that one half
of the Mount shall move
northward, and the other half
southward.
(Zechariah 14:4 ESV)
it is written!,
DeletePaster Rich, ty
CHAG SAMEACH!!
ReplyDeleteIt's the eve of Sukkot in and almost Sukkot in Israel. A time of celebration and the ingathering of the fruits of the field, the end of the harvest season and Israel's journey during the Exodus. If the moed (feast day) is new to you, here is a primer from My Jewish Learning - Sukkot 101 to help get you started!
Yom Tov! (יום טוב) "Good day!"
PR
A thought occurred to me last weekend. The United States has been politically divided to what is basically a 50/50 split for many years now. Thinking about (Matthew 25:1-13) I was reminded of the Virgins waiting for the Bridegroom. Jesus characterized them as wise and foolish. A 50/50 split.
ReplyDeleteOn the topic of division...
DeleteHere's a *snip* of a chat with ChatGPT on the topic,
AI: When did it [US elections] become a near 50/50 split?
AI: It’s difficult to pin down a single moment, but many analysts point to the 2000 Presidential Election as a significant marker, where the popular vote was split very tightly between George W. Bush and Al Gore.
AI: The post-2000 era has seen increasingly competitive elections, with many states swinging back and forth, reflecting a more evenly divided electorate.
PR: Thank you. As you point out, the 50/50 split was most visible at the 2000 election. Reagan was a landslide vs Carter and Mondale. Reagan definitely marked a change in the US political landscape, I was there and remember it well. The 2000 election is also memorable and reminds me of the Biblical story of the two women claiming the same child before the king. The king commanded that the child be cut in half to resolve the issue.
AI: You're right—Reagan's election in 1980 was a significant turning point, often seen as the start of a conservative shift in American politics, with Reagan embodying a new era of Reaganomics, strong anti-communism, and a redefined conservative identity.
AI: As for the 2000 election, it indeed stands out as a pivotal moment in recent U.S. political history. The closely contested race between George W. Bush and Al Gore, culminating in the Supreme Court decision on Bush v. Gore, highlighted the deep divisions and contentious nature of American politics at the turn of the century.
AI: Your biblical reference to the story of the two women claiming the same child before the king is quite apt. That story, from (1 Kings 3:16-28), is often used as a metaphor for determining truth or rightful ownership amid conflict. In the context of the 2000 election, it reflects the intense disputes over election results, recounts, and electoral legitimacy, where different sides claimed the same outcome, leading to a highly polarized and uncertain political landscape.
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The current political landscape of a 50/50 split does indeed seem to have its roots in the 2000 Presidential election. Twenty-five is the age Levites were required to be to serve in the Temple. Twenty-five has several connections to the temple as well as abominable acts of worship before the temple. Ezekiel is prominent in seeing the number 25 in prophetic terms.
Keep your lamps lit and be prepared with plenty of oil for the hour is getting late!
All hope in Jesus, all eyes on Christ!
PR
Oh, and all apologies; I failed to add, if it was not already obvious, that it's been 25 years since this split occurred. (I wish that we still had the old editing feature on this platform).
DeleteOn the subject of U.S. elections there has been a fair amount of election fraud going on since 2000 and not all of them were close. 2012 was stolen by Obama as well as 2020 by Biden or whoever the actor is playing him.
DeleteAmazing comments PR
DeleteAlmost there!! 😁 🎉🥳 ⬆️✝️ https://youtu.be/Z3g7nGpCIHE?si=r_cpFeAWhWI5it0x
ReplyDeleteAlmost there? Yes, but I would be careful using Grok, or any AI for that matter, as a conclusive tool. If AI model making is your thing, fine. Just remember, the Spirit speaks to us; His children, His students, not poor reflections of them.
DeleteIt's easy to explore this model independently and build upon it using greater weight of Scripture as there is a lot missing from this model. This premise has come to mind, but the problem I keep coming up with is the pattern of the feast days appear to be fulfilled in sequence. Pesach is long since fulfilled, and Yom Teruah is the next one to be fulfilled; the gathering of God's people before the Word, Jesus.
A Second Coming at Easter, 2033 has an interesting symmetry in human terms. I, personally, am not sold on it being God's plan according to the order of the moed.
Still, it's a model and I would suggest fleshing it out more, by hand, not using Grok -- unless the whole point is to use AI alone at which I would warn, YMMV.
Honestly, I don't trust AI for any response and hold all that they say suspect unless I already know the truth. I also believe that AI will be a major part of the beast system if not a great part of the false prophet itself. AI has already shown itself bent to delusion and falseness.
A deeper dive is required.
All hope in Jesus, all eyes on Christ,
PR
Grok sounds like the name of a demon.
DeletePastor Rich, Thank you for your insight! I appreciate it. I take it all with a grain of salt. Not Gospel. Just as with anything else.
DeleteI use it to do the mathematics and deep dives to see what we might be missing. I've been on the sidelines watching and waiting for 8 years and when I saw the April 3rd alignment, I thought I'd contribute.
I feel the same way about Ai. It's in every Google search now. It's everywhere.
April 3rd, 2033 isn't Easter, it falls on April 17th that year. It is interesting to search "What makes the year 2033 so important?" in Google.
My faith is in Him. Not a date or Ai.
Thanks so very much and God bless!! ❤️✝️
Angela
Hi Angela, and thank you for chiming in!
DeleteWay back, before the R12S, I was in the 33 AD camp via Rick Larson's work. I'm not barring it as even Ken Johnson teaches that the DSS show 32 AD is the year of the cross +/- one year. At this point I think we can rule out 29-31 AD as year of the cross. We still have a few hours for the Great Day (Essene) with Shemini Atzeret (Civil) coming soon. Both of those days are 21 days from their associated Yom Teruah so we'll see. Past that, I think we can say that 32 AD is out as well. I can be wrong and I've been wrong every time to this point!
That won't keep me from looking.
I did double check the claim of Easter 2033 being three days after Pesach. That checked out. Admittedly, it caught my attention!
I'm planning to model 33 AD and will do so with an Easter return as well as a Fall return and post what I find. Thank you again for your contribution. Keep it up and do share that we may chat as a community!
All hope in Jesus, all eyes on Christ!
I've been remembering the many (over 50) Last Great Days I've attended. By the end of the week many are sick, all are tired, and JUST WANT TO GO HOME!
ReplyDeleteWell the recent events are noteworthy but let me remind all of you of the fact that we're approaching 2026. There has been a lot of speculation regarding the rapture of the church, I personally hope it's this year like many of you. But what if it doesn't?
ReplyDeleteWhere does that leave us? We all know that the trib lasts for seven years. Add seven and that's 2033. This is beyond the date of Jesus Crucifixion which I placed as the stop date, that would be the logical start of the trib after a full 2000 yrs.
Despite all that's been written here over the years I wonder if any of us really know anything.
The latest on the deal:
ReplyDelete🚨Israeli officials believe the deal will be reached within 24-36 hours.
Hamas has provided information on the living hostages — 20 in total.
Hamas is searching for all the bodies of the dead hostages, though it’s far from guaranteed that they’ll all be found.
Israel is committing to releasing Palestinian prisoners once Hamas confirms all the hostages in its possession.
The IDF withdrawal will be to the borders of the Trump plan, perhaps with minor cosmetic adjustments.
According to the plan, the IDF will remain in 57% of Gaza, and in any case, will stay in most areas of the strip, so there may be a few additional points of withdrawal. In any event, the IDF will encircle all areas where Hamas remains.
Netanyahu’s government has already begun drafting a proposal that will be brought to a vote before ministers as soon as possible.
https://x.com/AmitSegal/status/1975969485266784719
One of the sources told the
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: "It seems the situation is not IF a deal is reached - BUT when it will be announced"
https://x.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1975977107185598964
There's also this happening TONIGHT: a potentially significant meteor outburst via the Draconids. Scientists estimate there could be a ZHR of 400. This would be roughly twice as many shooting stars as what we saw in 2018.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.travelandleisure.com/draconid-meteor-shower-peaking-october-2025-how-to-see-11826118
I was shocked to learn that gold is over $4K last night. Au has been the furthest from my mind, and we do own gold. Jesus and the coming of His Kingdom has dominated my mind. Watching, waiting, working and witnessing.
ReplyDelete@Gary,
Thank you again, for making this place and keeping it up for all these years. It is a very special place in a very dry land.
All hope in Jesus, all eyes on Christ,
PR
GARY--THANK YOU for that UPDATE!
ReplyDelete2025 is looking VERY promising for the Catching Away of the Bride with this news of the Trump "Peace" Plan reported to take place today in Israel (Thursday, October 9). Here's a blurb from Bubba News Community Post :
According to the EXPECTED TIMELINE, the ISRAELI SECURITY CABINET and the government are expected to CONVENE on THURSDAY AFTERNOON, to approve the release of Hamas/Gaza terrorist prisoners from Israeli jails in exchange for the ISRAELI HOSTAGES, as part of the plan's initial phase.
The SECURITY CABINET will meet at 3:00 p.m. (8am EST), followed approximately 1 HOUR LATER by the GOVERNMENT MEETING (9am EST)
At this stage, the REMAINING COMPONENTS of the agreement will NOT YET be finalized.
Following the government's approval, the IDF will BEGIN WITHDRAWING to a predetermined line agreed upon with Hamas. Israel is committed to completing the withdrawal within 24 hours. (By 4pmish Israeli time on Friday)
Trump *chairs the Board of Peace* that will be overseeing Gaza's renewal? In alignment with the tweet thread mentioned above by 'Observing Consciousness,' could we say that all of this is a fulfillment of Daniel 11:45?:
ReplyDelete"45 He will pitch his royal tents between the seas [at/or 'and'] the beautiful holy mountain. Yet he will come to his end, and no one will help him."
Does Trump chairing the Gaza Board of Peace count as him 'pitching his royal tents' between the sea and Jerusalem? Possibly so. Interesting that this verse is number '45'.
I found this post from prophecynewswatch pretty amazing to say the last. Post it here for you read it.
ReplyDeleteKind regards, Patrick netherlands
Tony Blair & Bill Gates: A Global Prototype Of The Antichrist And False Prophet?
https://www.prophecynewswatch.com/article.cfm?recent_news_id=8927
A post with the following text from earlier 2023 from living waters
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Looking at what is happening now, a man appears almost out of nothing (Tony Blair). Trump is the wunderchild a true peace broker, many will admire him!
Amazing time we live in brothers and sisters!
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It say's 'After the horrific attack of Hamas on Israel and the devastating response, it would be easier to floss the back teeth of the lions at the LA Zoo at feeding time than broker peace between Israel and Hamas.
Anyone who could do that would certainly work a miracle. And so, some would say the stage is set for that one man of sin, the Antichrist, who will bring temporary peace between the Arab and the Jew.
Blair can't be the Antichrist, b/c according to the Bible, the Antichrist must be a globally powerful military/political leader, of whom the nations ask, 'Who can make war on him?' Blair might be a key participant in overseeing the peace process, but according to Daniel 11, the Antichrist will be a war-like, fearsome dictator in control of a powerful army. He will also be able to 'make war on the saints,' i.e. be in charge of decreeing the arrest and execution of Christians. Trump fulfills, or could fulfill in the future, both prophecies; Blair clearly does not.
Delete@Zachary10/09/2025 11:29 AM:
DeleteThat's why European nations must spend much more on defense at the expense of healthcare, education and social security. Because the antichrist will come to power from the Revived Roman Empire in Europe. The antichrist himself will probably be a far-right-wing dictator coming from the right-wing politics.
Moin, he won't be coming from Europe. The USA is going to be the 'revived Roman empire'. The Antichrist is going to implement a version of what's called the 'pax Americana'.
DeleteI've been correctly pointing out for years now on this website that Trump would eventually turn out to be the Antichrist, and almost all of what I've received as comments in response has essentially been, 'No, that can't be true. It will be someone else'. I see that this trend is still continuing even though the Antichrist is literally confirming the 'covenant with many' as we speak. It's time to give it up, guys. The little horn is right in front of everyone's faces, and soon people won't be able to deny it any longer.
@Zachary10/09/2025 1:37 PM:
DeleteWhere is the coalition of 10 kings (10 horns) from which the antichrist will emerge as the 11th leader (little horn)? Before the antichrist can come to power, the 10 kings coalition must be in place.
Not to speak for Zachary, but I'm more and more convinced that BRICS+ is the coalition you're looking for. *IF* BRICS+ is the beast seen rising out of the sea, then it will be through BRICS+ that the little horn rises. It won't be from America. She looks more and more like the uni-polar power that rides upon the beast, the great prostitute. (Nods to Ty Green)
DeleteMajor Balaamic sauce.
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They don't know the day or hour of Trump's arrival (Saturday or Sunday) when he will arrive in the Middle East to announce the release of the living and dead hostages... 1 Thess. 4:16-17 typology.
Trump Admin demands two floors of King David hotel... and says visit will be "short" (twinkling of an eye 👁)
This waits to be seen of course. Perhaps the hostages are released and then the deal collapses, but I suspect this really is a fundamental shift. Good intentions or not, I imagine Trump has bigger ambitions, namely, being the one who finally "solved" the endless Israel-Palestine issue. That's why his admin has worked so intensely on it in both terms. Deal of the Century, Abraham Accords, now this as the gateway, and finally the Abraham Alliance.
Steve Bannon, historic Trump confidant, just had this to share about what this deal means, and he's pulling no punches:
"This falls squarely on Lindsey Graham and the Tel Aviv Levin Israel-first crowd. Their blind loyalty to Netanyahu backfired. Trump just united the Gulf states and Qatar to fund a proto-Palestinian state in Gaza, blocked Israeli expansion in Judea-Samaria, and may even bring Iran into the Abraham Accords. The Greater Israel project is dead. This was a masterstroke. Trump's own
Nixon-in-China moment."
In other words, if Bannon is correct, this is the very deal that has ended Israel's ambition to reclaim all of its homeland.
And now not one, but "many" nations are managing part of Israel’s God-given land.
Historically, it's been one at a time: Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Macedonians, Seleucids, Romans, various Islamic caliphate and crusader kingdoms, Ottomans, British, Jordan, the fake "Palestinian" entity....
But this is unique.
Quoting my wife, "I can't wait to get my GOD shower!"
Delete, . . . THAT is realy CUTE! lol
DeleteROADMAP 2030 PRESERVING PEACE
ReplyDeleteEU Parliament President Ursula von der Leyen just delivered a speech to the EU Parliament on the defence of Europe against hybrid warfare from Russia. Discussed are the expanding grey zone of Russian hybrid warfare, building a drone wall with the help of Ukraine via their upcoming readiness roadmap 2030 called, Preserving Peace.
Given the proposed introduction of Tomahawk cruise missiles into the Russo/Ukrainian war, it's no wonder that tensions are building in Europe. Further steps toward the Azovmena Prophecy unfolding further?
One cannot mistake the change of seasons. Observant virgins are not the only ones seeing this change and talking about it. The world is seeing it too.
All hopes in Jesus, all eyes on Christ!
Still with this Azovmena Prophecy, so-called.
DeleteIt's good to be cautious about these claims that run about the web. This past Rosh HaShana being chief among them. I'm assuming you don't know about Ps Barnett's story. In a nutshell he claims to have first received revelation of a Russian invasion of Ukraine in the late 1990's. He was a church planter in Ukraine at the time and was preaching that message 25 years ago.
DeleteMost people thought he was nuts.
Time passed and Russia invaded Ukraine. Now we can say that's coincidence or that he did receive revelation from God of what was coming. I personally, consider it but am not dogmatic.
*IF* Phillip Barnett is right, *AND* this year is the future year that World War III erupts? We'll know because the rapture will happen anytime now and nukes will fly on 11/11/25. (Note, Ps Barnett didn't know what year the war would take place; only that it would on 11/11 of a future year and that the harpazo would be a month or so before it broke out).
Again, if it weren't for the fact that what he said would happen *DID* happen? I wouldn't mention it. The fact that he prophesied something that came to pass years later?
That is worth considering wouldn't you say?
Paul would say it was worth considering. :)
DeleteI cannot abide those who say the Holy Spirit and Prophecy are not for today or our time. And that rigidly hold that, all we have now are His written words. They risk the error of the Pharisee's in turnig scripture into the idol, and not regarding the very active and living author of said scriptures.
God will deliver His word and will how He sees fit.
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(1 Thessalonians 5:19-21)
Do not extinguish the Spirit.
Do not treat prophecies with contempt, but test all things.
Hold fast to what is good.
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It would be a shame if a man who wants to make peace happen would have to be the villain. However, the Prince of Peace is right at the door and will not give His Glory to another.
ReplyDeleteLet us not forget (Daniel 8:25) though... ;)
DeleteBy Peace (KJV) or in a time of Peace (safety/prosperity) he will destroy many.
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ReplyDeleteGary, thanks for that Balaamic sauce 😉
You mentioned they weren't sure which day Trump would speak at the Knesset, but JPost says Sunday:
Trump lauds ending war in Gaza, says hostages to be freed 'Monday or Tuesday'
Trump also confirmed that he would address the Knesset on Sunday.
When will the Rapture Dominoes start falling? Probably no later than this month!
I was going over the Rapture Dominoes with my grown son and he said, "What about the tsunami?"
I CAN'T BELIEVE I FORGOT TO PUT THE EAST COAST TSUNAMI ON THE LIST! So I've just added it (along with links to the many dreams associated with it) to:
Will the Rapture Dominoes Fall THIS Fall?
SHEMINI ATZERET/SIMCHAT TORAH
ReplyDeleteI find it interesting that the sages have not quite known what to make of Shemini Atzeret. One has the feeling that it's a bit of a mystery; perhaps intentionally so if you get my meaning. Here are some interesting dates worth reading up on,
Tuesday, October 14, 2025 - Shemini Atzeret
Wednesday, October 15, 2025 - Simchat Torah
Saturday, October 18, 2025 - Parashat Bereshit
All of these are within a window for the arrival of the two witnesses with Shemini Atzeret falling 21-days after Rosh HaShana; thus that is what I would consider a high watch day. Considering all that is going on between Israel and Hamas (Palestinians) and the division of G-D's land; I would hold the Eighth Day Solemn Assembly as a HIGH watch day, if not the last high watch day of the fall feast days.
For example, in the west, Hoshana Rabba is this Monday. Late morning in Eastern Time is sunset in Jerusalem and the beginning of Shemini Atzeret. How may the release of the captives play in all of this?
May it be the Israeli hostages, if not all those held captive in Israel, are as shadows of the body of Christ that is held captive? Will their release precipitate our release from sin and bondage? (Nods to Paul Dawson)
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DeleteI just noticed that my post (above) hit at 1:53 PM (Central). Not even close to being intentional, but GOD is!!!
DeleteDear Brother--Thanks for sharing those insights regarding Shemini Atzeret and Simchat Torah as it parallels what I shared in the "October Rapture after the Shaking of the Etrog?" section of Will the Rapture Dominoes Fall THIS Fall?. 🍋🌿
Delete"May it be the Israeli hostages, if not all those held captive in Israel, are as shadows of the body of Christ that is held captive? Will their release precipitate our release from sin and bondage? (Nods to Paul Dawson)"
It's a blessing to confirm!
DeleteI noted in the BBC article, How Trump secured a Gaza breakthrough which eluded Biden,
"It is just the first step toward a more durable peace, and the details of Hamas disarmament, Gaza governance and full Israeli withdrawal remain to be negotiated."
...key terms being, "more durable peace" and "remain to be negotiated". *IF* sudden destruction came before these things got worked-out, that would lead to a "weak" agreement would it not? One in need of begin strengthened?
It makes me wonder...
Exactly!
DeleteTwo witnesses?
DeleteYou don't even have a temple yet, and Gog and Magog have not begun to organize, mate!
Hi Dirk,
DeleteI know exactly what I said. Bear in mind that the Temple Institute already has ALL of the temple in pieces ready to assemble. All that is needed is the green light to build. Assembly will be done in short order. Gog and Magog? Round one will happen at the end of the 70th week with round two happening at the end of the MK. The forces of that power will be gathered by that which has yet to appear on the scene, the AC.
The pieces are fitting together.
Bear in mind, I've been building models for this for almost a decade. So far, things are falling into place.
PR
An American base to be set up in Israel:
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*To oversee the Gaza transition and implementation of the 20-point plan.
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ReplyDeleteWow great article,thanks.
ReplyDeleteIt’s amazing how they give him all credits and honor, look at this picture
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SHARING MY MOBILE WALLPAPER
ReplyDeleteI thought to share a special wallpaper I made for my mobile phone. I don't recall where the artwork originally came from as I've had it for more than a minute. (The artist's signature is retained in the full image). All credit to them as this is, IMHO, a fabulous piece of art and an inspirational image! The text is my work by inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
May it bring comfort and Joy to you in this season. It is free to have and free to share, free of price; just like Jesus.
All hope in Jesus, all eyes on Christ
A THOUGHT
ReplyDelete11:11 has been coming up and did so again today. Tomorrow, sunset in Jerusalem will be at 6:11 PM (Israel) which is 11:11 AM (Eastern). That's not to say that I'm suggesting tomorrow is the Day. I'm not.
If 11:11 were a timestamp, would it not be applicable on any day? A day unknown and either AM or PM? Yet, Paul teaches,
2 For you yourselves are fully
aware that the day of the Lord
will come like a thief in the
night.
3 While people are saying,
"There is peace and security,"
then sudden destruction will
come upon them as labor
pains come upon a pregnant
woman and they will not
escape.
(1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 ESV)
Key terms: "thief in the night" is the very picture and meaning of the word, Strong's (G726) harpazo. "While people are saying", as in people of authority who speak; "sudden destruction will come upon them", not on those who are awake, watching and waiting. "[T]hey [those who are speaking yet unable to see] will not escape" as the bride escapes. They shall be left behind.
This is the Wrath of the Lamb, the Day of the LORD. The Day of our Blessed Hope.
Could it come at 11:11 AM in Israel during an upcoming ceremony? Could it come like a thief in the night at 11:11 PM, near the midnight hour when the Bridegroom come?
It's a thought and a thought that may happen Monday-Wednesday next week.
We shall see.
All hope in Jesus, all eyes on Christ!
PR
In my most recent Blog entry, I use (Luke 12:39-40) as a reasoning for why we won't know the day, because Jesus isn't about to give away Tactical info that satan could figure out before we could.
DeleteI mean, He literally says He will come at a time we do not expect. You just can't get around that. :D
I do love how Jesus is the Thief, and the Homeowner is satan, and the valuables that are stolen (I would say repossessed rather than stolen) are us who are His.
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DeleteQUICK CHECK of the MODEL - TWO WITNESSES
ReplyDeleteTaking a look at a potential harpazo coinciding with the arrival of the two witnesses on Shemini Atzeret shows a fit for the (Psalm 90:10) model. Their full ministry would be completed within the 80-year timeframe (prior to the beginning of the 81st year).
The model aligns with the 2,300 days of Daniel with the 1,040 days aligning with the AoD. That *may* suggest a Summer 2026 completion of the third temple. I cannot be dogmatic about that. The model still begins with Rosh HaShana, offset with 21-days to the beginning of the 1,260 days of ministry of the witnesses in Jerusalem on Shemini Atzeret. Their ministry is suggested as ending (in this case) 10 days before the AoD.
Again, not force fitting anything here, just seeing where things land on the calendar by day counts provided in Scripture.
Keep in prayer as you watch and wait.
All hope in Jesus, all eyes on Christ,
PR
Addendum...
DeleteIf to push the model back to Simchat Torah, the death of Moses, the gap between the end of the ministry of the two witnesses and the AoD shrinks to just seven days. Simchat Torah is also known as the second day of Shemini Atzeret for those in the diaspora. It is also a celebration of the Torah.
I said this in the previous article (Greg L), but it's relevant here too.
ReplyDeleteI can't help but feel recently that we are in the eye of a Hurricane, where there is a moment of sunshine and still, light breeze, and we are waiting for the other half of the storm to hit at full force in the opposite direction before it slowly passes us and decreases over time.
Seems like a prefect time for a forceful plucking as with a rescue.
That's a good analogy, IMHO. A moment of peace and security.
Delete:)
DeleteI prepare for the coming weeks and months, but I feel it's almost time to drop everything and get on the rescue helicopter... ;)
EXAMINING (DANIEL 10)
ReplyDeleteWe've discussed a potential 21 day offset for the beginning of D70W and the harpazo. Thinking about the events of the day found in (Daniel 10), I started doing some digging.
My study began with building a model starting with Tishri 1 through Tishri 24 (evening and morning) just as given by Daniel. These days begin with Yom Teruah I and end the day after Simchat Torah. (Note: I'm overlaying modern feast days in this model).
We know that Daniel fasted delicacies for three full weeks, that's 21 days. We also know that the holy angel was withstood by the Prince of Persia for the same period of time. We also know that the holy angel, with the help of Michael, came to Daniel, "...from the first day that you set your heart to understand" because Daniel was in mourning.
Daniel was an observant man. He would have kept the feast days as they were commanded in the Torah. Yom Teruah is a time of celebration, eating and drinking delicacies; it is NOT a time for fasting. The time for fasting would begin the following day, after the 49 hours of Yom Teruah if for the modern celebration, which is the beginning of the Days of Awe (Yamim Noarim), High Holy Days, days of prayer and repentance. What Ken Johnson calls "the terrible days" in Essene thought.
Therefore, Daniel would not have been in lament during the Feast of Trumpets, he would have been in lament during the Days of Awe. Expecting such, the day that the holy angel and Michael would have begun their journey to Daniel should have been around Tishri 3. The full course of 21 days of fasting are equivalent to the days required for the angels to get to Daniel.
Tishri 23 is the 21st day of Daniel's fast and aligns with Simchat Torah. The following day, Tishri 24 is the day that Daniel was standing by the banks of the Tigris River. Where *might* that be?
It's likely that the events of (Daniel 10) took place near ancient Babylon in modern day Central Iraq. Ancient Babylon was on the east bank of the Euphrates River with the Tigris not too far to the east of the city. Estimated walking time from Babylon to the Tigris would be between two and four hours each way. If Daniel, and company, would have departed the city about sunrise (6:00 AM) they could have been to the banks of the Tigris River about 10:00 AM. That would be in time for midday prayers.
Could this have a bearing on the timing of the harpazo? The angel does go into detail about the resurrection does he not? *IF* so, then we may want to consider Thursday, October 16, 2025 as a high watch day. That is equivalent to the last day of Tishri, beginning of Heshvan, on the Essene calendar and Tishri 24 on the civil calendar.
EXAMINING (DANIEL 10) Continued...
Delete*IF* we see the release of the hostages, prisoners and detainees by noon tomorrow (Monday) *AND* followed by some manner of celebration where leaders, heads of state, are speaking, saying we have "peace and security"; *THEN* we be ready!
3 While people are saying,
"There is peace and security,"
then sudden destruction will
come upon them as labor
pains come upon a pregnant
woman, and they will not
escape.
(1 Thessalonians 5:3 ESV)
THAT IS THE HARPAZO!!!
If you have trouble remembering that chapter and verse written through Paul? Just remember "1-5-3" as in 153 large fish,
11 So Simon Peter went aboard
and hauled the net ashore, full
of large fish, 153 of them. And
although they were so many,
the net was not torn.
(John 21:11 ESV)
*FIRST* Thessalonians, chapter *FIVE*, verse *THREE*.
Indeed. There *WILL BE* a huge catch of large fish on the Day of our Blessed Hope! Though the fishers of men fill their nets, not one soul will be lost on that Day. None will be lost to Jesus. Every watching and waiting bride will be summoned into the wedding feast; all eyes will see the coming of the LORD on the clouds. The earth will be shaken. Every mountain and island will be taken from its place...
...and the worthless figs will fall to earth as by a winter gale; for Michael and his warring angels will cast the dragon earthward and the war in heaven will be over, forever!
MARANATHA!!!!
All hope in Jesus, all eyes on Christ,
PR
Plugging these numbers into my (Psalm 90:10) model for this year further illustrates how the beginning of D70W could be on Tishri 24. That would equal the resurrection of the two witnesses on the eve of Passover (civil) in 2029.
DeleteFriends,
ReplyDeleteI've been struggling, of late, with several family issues, and I'm not too proud to ask for your prayers, but it has given me some time to pray, myself, and to consider the events of these last 2 weeks.
I only wanted to add these to the discussion:
First, that I still believe it's possible that the Tribulation started on September 23rd. Much like a football game has a televised time slot, and a coin toss, and a referee's whistle, and a kickoff . . . and yet the game clock doesn't start until the first receiver catches the ball. And, so it is with the 1260-day count. The game is ON, but the clock isn't running. And that is exactly why Lucifer is working so feverishly. The deception is palpable. But I think we need to allow for the Seals to be opened "soon," and not necessarily within the first moment of tuning in to watch. Perhaps, even as we are considering these things, Jesus is reaching out toward the Father to take the scroll.
Second, that I do believe that it helps to understand this . . . that when Jesus takes the scroll and unseals the first rider on the white horse, which comes forth conquering and to conquer . . . the nations will see this antiChrist spirit conquer the world FIRST through miracles, charm, and alluring wonder. He is a deceiving "savior." And without going into too much conjecture over the actual man, himself, we must recognize that as this Seal nears, we would not expect an inordinate number of Christians or Jews to have to flee for their lives before the rider arrives. (At least not more than are normally persecuted. And I don't mean to diminish that, at all. But to keep it in context.)
In other words, we are supposed to be watching for the approach of two saviors. One real and one false. One in the clouds and one at the negotiating table. Or, to put it another way, the scale of persecution up to this point is prophetically escapable or contained. We are not yet under global wrath, but just under that approaching deception that Jesus pointed to as His very FIRST sign of the end. This is possibly the only sign that a pre-Trib church body should expect to see, as there is no reason to be pulled out of the fire just yet.
But, boy, can we see it coming.
At this point, I can do no better than point you back to Gary's excellent piece from 7 years ago . . .
https://www.unsealed.org/2018/08/who-are-24-elders.html
. . . because it seems more than circumstantial that the Rapture has a place before Seal 1.
I have tried, repeatedly, to find a way to allow for a Seal 1 opening on September 23rd, but have come full-circle. As much as I've tried to entertain all scenarios that might see us still here through the opening of the first seal, I keep coming back to Gary's viewpoint, and that of many of you here at Unsealed. And I continue to believe, with faith, that if these peace arrangements develop as we believe possible, then we are looking at a quickening in progression and order, from a very imminent Rapture, first, to the official game clock/Day Count, to the opening of Seal 1, to the opening of Seal 2 in the next months.
I hold absolutely no stock in the mid-Trib or post-Trib views. And I really have tried to seek common ground with the pre-WRATH view, but it just seems too obvious that WRATH is unleashed, by Jesus Himself, by Seal 2; peace is taken from the WHOLE earth. And is, therefore, unescapable and uncontained. As are Seals 3 and 4. And, in its own unique way, Seal 1 is a special kind of WRATH; a heart-hardening deception.
It seems to me a very unlikely thing to expect Seal 1 later than this month, with Seal 2 later than this November. The rest of the model fits all-too perfectly. Could it be next year? Sure. And if we don't get Raptured this year, then we'll take the time to reformulate the hypothesis and model the facts. But it's just not nearly as probable, considering that we might be seeing a "sudden" destruction after peace, and a red rider of war, AT THE SAME MOMENT in history.
(continued below)
Our current "imminent-Rapture" model points to the exact 2,000-year anniversary of the Crucifixion.
DeleteThis model still fits the 1260, 1290, and 1335 day counts in the VERY near future.
This model explains why the Jewish nation won't make it to the age of 81.
YES, Azovmena factors in, because I think that Pastor Barnett was proven to be a true and obedient prophet.
And YES to Tom Horn, for the same reason. He had real visions and genuine faith. And he made accurate prophetic predictions. And, therefore . . .
YES, Apophis. Because it is EXACTLY the right size to do the work of Wormwood. And it's on EXACTLY the right trajectory to do it, by lining up with the western hemisphere.
(And for the life of me, I cannot envision any other reason, as yet known, why the entire population of the world would be hiding UNDER the rocks after a large Seal 6 earthquake . . . but to escape something coming down on them.)
And, YES, the confirming of these "Abrahamic" peace deals . . . made with every nation of the world . . . including the Islamic world, who harbors an antiChrist Mahdi, and a historically antiChrist-like Mohammed. (Look it up when you have the time . . . because their prophet was Satan, incarnate, in many ways. A supreme deceiver, and acknowledged as such in the Koran, itself.)
https://answering-islam.org/Shamoun/allah_best_deceiver.htm
In short, the Islamic god Allah=Baal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVQEud6EvRY
(The AC does not have to be a Muslim. It could be any of his affiliates and puppets playing the role of Islamic beheader in his stead. But I believe, positively, that Islam is heavily involved after the restraining church is removed by Rapture, and much of the world's population is removed by the Seal tribulations.)
This deal, at this time, with these players, is prophetic. Given that it also destroys Israeli sovereignty over God's land, and by their own choice, it is inconceivable that this does not lead directly to further prophetic fulfilment on the Temple Mount.
Indeed, without opening up that whole ball of wax around the Qumran asteroid video, I'll reference again what was said. That there are only 2 periods which indicated the FIRST and LAST peace agreements between the Arabs and Israel. One year after the first, we saw Israel declare a "complete and unified" Jerusalem as their capital. And after this second and current peace-dealing effort, will the next year of 2026 see Israel declare a "complete and unified" Temple Mount? And will the Rapture factor into the Daniel 9 reestablishment of Temple practices?
If the Last Great Day of Tabernacles is the Last Great Day of ingathering of the people and the harvest, then there is hope.
And if the Last Great 8th Day was grafted onto the festival of 7, just as the church was grafted on . . . and just as 2025 was grafted onto the 7 years after the Revelation 12 sign . . . then there is hope.
And if the Last Great Day is waiting for a Last Trump, then there is hope. Because I see a whole lot of Trump in the newspaper.
This week may be monumental. So, let's live like it!
Hold fast to those things which have real value. Live like you have no time left. And speak to one more person about Christ, because what you're seeing right now has given us all the evidence we need to live and proclaim boldly that "Jesus Christ is Lord over all of these happenings."
As JackN said, above, it is right and proper that we do not hold these things in contempt, but test them, and hold what is good. And I see most of you doing that each day. Adding to the evidence with a willing and loving heart. And it's an absolute blessing to read what you've been writing each and every day. Thank you.
Jeremy
And, in true Jeremy fashion, let me add one more thing. Lol.
DeleteIt says, "when they SAY peace and security." It does not say, "when they HAVE peace and security."
With Daniel 9:27 in mind, let's leave room for this week to go sideways, whether the Rapture happens or not.
Agreed, Jeremy, agreed,
DeleteIrregardless of pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib, pre-wrath, or whatever; let's see what this week brings. If we go Home? NO WORDS CAN EXPOUND OUR JOY AND ELATION!!! If we don't go Home? We will continue to watch, wait, work and witness.
All hope in Jesus, all eyes on Christ!
Will be lifting you in prayer, Jeremy! You and your family.
DeletePR
Thank you, PR!
DeleteIt is greatly appreciated right now!
Jeremy
A NOTE ABOUT THE 1,260 DAYS
ReplyDeleteThe model suggested the potential for a gap between the first 1,260 days and the second 1,260 days. That gap was originally 30 days but with our continued presence, has shrunk considerably.
It remains to be seen if there is a gap between the first and second 42 months. The model still suggests the 1,290 days is immediately followed by the 1,335 days. If that is true, then it may be possible that D70W did begin at Rosh HaShana, the 8th Anniversary of the R12S. Again, I would point to (Daniel 10) as support for that concept.
Further study is in order, if we're here long enough for that!
WATCHING RELEASE OF HOSTAGES
ReplyDeleteSo thankful watching the release of the captives of Hamas. I'm praying for them in their repatriation and praying for the families of those who are coming home but not walking off of helicopters to waiting ambulances and a life resumed.
All glory to G-D.
It's interesting hearing the commentators discuss the undefined, weak points if you will, of the ceasefire agreement. Hearing the aspirations of the US to bring more Arab countries, even Persia, into the Abraham Accords makes all the more sense at a moment like this. The following quote from BBC seemed poignant,
During a whirlwind trip to the region, Trump will also attend a peace summit in Sharm El-Sheikh, Egypt, alongside Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi and other world leaders.
After hearing politicians' chants of "Trump, Trump, Trump" in the Knesset, the American president suggested the region was experiencing "the historic dawn of a new Middle East".
The sun will be setting soon over Israel and it will be Simchat Torah. According to the (Daniel 10) model it is the last day that the Angel of the LORD was delayed in coming to Daniel on the banks of the Tigris River. Soon it will be the 24th day of Tishri, the day that Daniel learned how it was all going to go.
Soon, the Bridegroom will arrive and we too will learn how it is all going to go. Today we see in part, then we shall see clearly. (1 Corinthians 13:12) True peace and safety is found in the presence of Jesus.
In Christ alone.
All hope in Jesus, all eyes on Christ,
PR
Erdogan has just signed the peace agreement concerning Israel, on Shemeni Atzeret, the day on the Hebrew calendar that I expect would mark the end of the seven year tribulation (assuming Yeshua rapidly fulfills all of the fall feasts at the second coming), exactly 1993 years after the year of the crucifixion under Sir Robert Anderson's calculations. I mean, it's at least interesting, isn't it?
ReplyDeleteVery interesting!
DeleteBut good luck getting the masses to take notice.
I can't help but wonder if a Rapture, exactly right now, might not lead to:
An emboldened Islamic movement.
A sudden destruction.
An Israeli strike that "nukes" Damascus.
Another defensive strike that breaks the bow of Elam.
A retaliatory Gog/Magog attack.
And a new Temple.
Every significant event in human history is, or was, a response to something else. And what seems outrageous and unthinkable, right now, will seem inevitable and necessary later on.
A worldwide Seal 6 earthquake, for example, makes a lot of sense after nuclear warfare. Maybe even hiding from the fallout, under rocks.
We'll know when it's our time to know.
Jeremy
Well, it happened. Article is updated!
ReplyDeleteTHANK YOU, GARY!
DeleteAs I also updated my article today, I remembered that in my dream the 🍋🍋 lemons or etrogs 🍋🍋 were tumbled onto a surface much like dominoes would look when scattered. Could it be the Holy Spirit was illustrating that during the Feast of Tabernacles the dominoes would begin to topple?
AND (as I mention in my update) it is NO coincidence that a nor'easter is hammering NYC today!
Will the Rapture Dominoes Fall THIS Fall?
Gary you pointed out in his Update how this agreement could be considered breaking the everlasting covenant, which is how I understand it. In other words, THE FIRST DOMINO HAS FALLEN!
Look up Comet Lemmon today!!
DeleteQUOTING DJT in EGYPT TODAY
ReplyDelete"Together we've achieved what everybody said was impossible; at long last we have peace in the Middle East. And it's a very simple expression, peace in the Middle East and we've heard it for many years, but nobody thought it could ever get there and now we're there."
Bearing in mind what was written through the Apostle Paul,
3 While *people* are saying,
"There is peace and security,"
then sudden destruction will
come upon them as labor
pains come upon a pregnant
woman, and they will not
escape.
(1 Thessalonians 5:3 ESV [*Emphasis mine*])
KEYWORD, "THEY"
Who are "they?" They are Gentiles not Jews. Sudden destruction is not meant for the Jews, not at this point, it is for the Gentiles. *They* are heads of state, kings, those who hold power over the nations.
What kind of sudden destruction will *they* face? I posit they, with emphasis on the Whore of Babylon, will face first, the Wrath of the Lamb at the opening of the Day of the LORD. This will be followed with the destruction of the great prostitute herself by the beast that rose from the sea by fire in a day. (Yes, thinking Azovmena Prophecy here).
Note: The next biggest headline today is the US considering giving Tomahawk land attack cruise missiles to Ukraine for long-range, precision strikes into Russia. If WWIII has already started with the war in Ukraine, what a better way to turn up the heat and escalate the conflict?! The piece-meal dismantling of Russian energy infrastructure and opening of doors for direct attacks on Moscow itself cannot be ignored as being considered as an existential threat to the Russian Federation.
HIGH WATCH, THURSDAY
This Thursday equals the day that the Holy Angel visited Daniel at the banks of the Tigris River. It took him 21 days to make that journey due to the war in heaven. Will the heavens open once again? This time filled with angels led by the Bridegroom Himself? Will the earth shake, sun blacken and moon turn to blood in a supernatural event that rivals G-D's descent upon Mount Horeb?
We shall see.
All hope in Jesus, all eyes on Christ!
PR
Perhaps the key that carries this over the Divine red line, will be when a Palestinian state is formally established. I believe what transpired today COULD BE the covenant, but the confirmation/strengthening must be post-rapture, featuring (1) a Palestinian state, and thus invoking God's wrath (see Jl. 3), and (2) a Third Temple, doubly invoking God's wrath (see Isa. 66 and what God says about this). But with Hamas essentially out of the way now and covenant with many in place (but maybe not confirmed/enforced/strengthened??), things now move quickly. Does that mean this week? I hope so, but I see as through a mirror dimly.
ReplyDeleteIn terms of staging and choreography... MAN did what transpire today look like what we might expect.
I've believed since the beginning that the Daniel 9:27 covenant would be the confirming/strengthening of an already existing Two-State Solution agreement, which it seems the Gaza Peace Plan is for that is its goal. I hope the Bride of Christ does not have to wait until there is a formally established Palestinian state before the Holy Bridegroom comes for Her! Events truly are transpiring at rapid fire speed BUT it seems to me the formal establishment of Palestine COULD TAKE SOME TIME--PERHAPS EVEN YEARS🥺
DeleteAnd at this exact moment on the timeline?
DeleteThere's no way that we aren't called to such an occasion.
To believe in the glorious disappearing act of an entire church body at all . . . or the near-complete destruction of the planet and human sovereignty . . . well, I hardly think that our God Is worried about keeping this a secret.
How much more could He put Daniel 9:27 and the Last Trump in our faces than He did on 9/27? Or today?
We are meant to acknowledge what's happening right now. For everyone's sake.
Coincidentally, I'll mention again that Hurricane Imelda was heading for the USA, and growing rapidly, through the week that Trump released his plan. And the weather folks were very clear to point out that Hurricane Humberto, spinning off to the right side, was DIRECTLY responsible for pulling Imelda back out to sea. It was the direct interference of the two low-pressure systems that saved us. In other words, the "bright bear" (Russia/China? Something else?) stepped into this prophetic situation at the same time that "universal battle" was upon us all.
I don't know what is, or isn't possible, and I'm glad that I don't need to, but I know that the Lord is actively involved in every minute of this. And that's for the best.
Jeremy
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DeleteThe thought later occurred to me that there are news reports peppering the media this week about tomahawk missiles causing Russian tension with the USA. And Russia is not happy with the potential deployment of any missile that can be conventional one day, and then nuclear the next.
DeleteFor them, that is a real red line. Because how do you ever know if the missile coming at your capital is the last one you'll ever see?
But maybe the bear decided not to do universal battle over it this month.
Obvious speculation. Or November foreshadowing.
Jeremy
I commented on that fact yesterday but the message disappeared. The introduction of Tomahawk land attack cruise missiles requires a launch system. They are typically ship-borne and can be carried by large aircraft like the US P-3 Orion or P-8 Poseidon. Ukraine is unquestionably innovative, but it would take time or a complete system to make the Tomahawk work for Ukraine.
DeleteSuch a system would easily put Moscow in range of precision munitions that would lessen their reliance on their home-grown Flamingo cruise missile for a ready-made solution.
Recent changes in Russian military doctrine suggest that this system could be claimed as an existential threat to the Russian Federation (Putin). Then again, they put their own spin on everything.
As far as threat of nuclear armed cruise missiles? Russia has been firing munitions capable of carrying nuclear warheads for a long-time now. Some of their missiles had those warheads removed for ballast then fired as fodder. First use of nuclear weapons in this context is unthinkable and offers no tactical advantage. It would likely lead to isolation, condemnation and the potential broader use and escalation.
Basically, the dragon.
Hey PR, I think it's approved now. Occasionally the spam filter auto flags random messages, and I have to approve them. Not sure why that was flagged.
DeleteAH! That explains it. Thanks, Gary!
DeleteTHE RESTRAINER REMOVED
Delete7 For the mystery of lawlessness
is already at work. Only *he* who
now restrains it will do so until
*he* is out of the way.
(2 Thessalonians 2:7 ESV [*Emphasis mine*])
The pronoun *he* stood out to me differently today while reading this verse. *He* as in,
2 And I looked, and behold,
a white horse! And its rider
had a bow, and a crown was
given to him, and *he* came
out conquering, and to conquer.
(Revelation 6:2 ESV)
Bearing in mind that I see a sixth seal harpazo, this verse stood out as connecting tissue to (2 Thess 2) via *he*, or who I would term as the Spirit-filled body of Christ, the Church, sent out, "conquering, and to conquer." An event I believe happened in the first century, perhaps at the giving of the Great Commission. (Matthew 28:18-20)
Jesus commanded us to go forth, making disciples of all the nations,
20 "teaching them to observe
all that I have commanded you.
And behold, I am with you
always, to the end of the age."
(Matthew 28:20 ESV)
Emmanuel, God with us, always has been, always is, and always will be with us. Jesus' reference to the end of the age aligns with the sending out of *he* who rides the white horse. The sending out of the Church opened the age that would see the end. That rider, the Church, was, and is, called to teach that a work be performed. Faithful worship.
What then is the key to our departure?
War in heaven.
Once the full count of the fifth seal souls has been reached, the dragon, and it's angels, will be permanently cast to/into the earth. This is immediately followed by the harpazo. We see it in (Revelation 6) and (Revelation 12). When the worthless figs are cast to earth, the mountains and islands are removed. The man-child is caught-up to God and His throne.
Yes, they are saying peace and security, but the dragon has yet to be cast down by Michael and his angels. It has already been cast out of the third heaven. Derek Prince taught that the battles in the heavenly realm are occurring in the second heaven, a space between spaces? Perhaps, but once we get to Michael and his angels casting the dragon down to/into the earth; that is the trigger for the harpazo.
War in heaven.
The birth pains are so very frequent now they're unmistakable. It's all in God's timing. Perhaps Tishri 24 will be the Day of His arrival?
We shall see.
All hope in Jesus, all eyes on Christ,
PR
PS, the sixth seal gives the complete order of the resurrection/rapture. It begins with a global EQ and goes from there. When I say *harpazo* (above), I was saying that in context with those who remain, the living, that are taken after those are sleeping in Christ.
DeleteI 100% agree that the sixth seal is the rapture.
DeleteRevelation 6 and Mathew 24 are companion passages that culminate with the same event
mathew 24:29 Immediately after the distress of those days
“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.
Then Revelation 6:12 I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, 13 and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. 14 The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.
Both passages talk about the same event. In Mathew it then says that immediately after that event the sign of Jesus appearing in the heavens and sending out his angels with the sound of a trumpet to gather the elect is clearly the rapture.
And in revelation 6 after the sun goes dark and the moon does as well and the stars fall from heaven and the earth shakes the people of the earth hide in the caves and crevices of the earth because they understand that the Day of the Lord is about to commence". The "Day of the Lord" being the 3.5 year time of supernatural punishment.
The correct understanding is
Tribulation (time of the antichrist and his followers going crazy ww3)
seals 1-5
seal 6 rapture in preparation for seal 7 being opened then the scroll, which was sealed with the 7 seals is opened and the judgement contained therein are pronounced upon the earth for the wickdness that they had just committed during seals 1-5 (WW3 essentially)
First the evil behavior, then the punishment for the evil behavior.
Most people mix up the seals sealing the scroll (evil behavior of the antichrist and his followers) with the supernatural judgements inside the scroll (punishment for said evil behavior). They mix the seals sealing the scroll together with the judgement contained in the scroll. mixing it all together and labeling it the "tribulation" failing to see the two distinct periods of cause and effect for what is about to unfold.
Punishment happens for a reason. The wicked behavior that merits the immense punishment of the vials, bowls trumpets ect has to come first. We must separate the two distinct times in our minds to understand the logic of what happens and why.
First the evil behavior, then the punishment for the evil behavior.
If you will make a careful reading of both mathew 24 and revelation 6 comparing the events there is nothing supernatural about what happens until the sun/moon goes dark, earth shakes and stars fall from heaven. Everything preceding that is essentially violence and the fall out of that violence committed by men against each other. There are no supernatural judgements at play in those passages until after The sun/moon goes dark, earth quakes and stars falling from heaven. Then the supernatural judgements commence for a reason.
first the seals are broken then finally the book or scroll is opened and the judgements contained in the scroll/book are pronounced.
So if this is indeed the time then what we are up against soon is War and death, war and rumours of war not a false peace as some assume.
PR,
ReplyDeleteYou mentioned the beast from the sea and tomahawks, and then fire, and my first thought was a nuclear submarine's first strike.
How awful is this world, now?
Jeremy
How awful is this world, now?
DeleteAll I can do is to continue to point to Jesus. He warned us about awful, but more so, He promised the Kingdom to come. He promised the Eternal Kingdom to come. He promised Himself. He is, I AM. That means that in 100 billion years we can get together and remember when we felt this way. A distant memory, almost like a dream, a bad dream, that we were delivered from by Jesus.
I know our moments feel like eternities. It's no wonder that they do; we were made for eternity by eternity Himself. May we wait in our moments that we let the moment do its work. Affliction brings out the dross in precious metals and so it does with us...if we let it. We are becoming so much more.
May we all radiate Christ and what He has done in and through our lives.
All hope in Jesus, all eyes on Christ,
PR
That's beautiful, PR. Everything about this life is about forming Christ in us and in the moments we wait, may we allow Him to do just that in us. So much of what God calls us to is counter intuitive to the natural man. I think of Romans 12:19-21. Verse 20 echoes Proverbs 25:21-22: 21 If your enemy is hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he is thirsty, give him water to drink;
Delete22 For in doing so, you will [a]heap coals of fire upon his head, and the Lord will reward you.
The Classic ed of the Amplified Bible has a wonderful footnote to this verse:
This is not to be understood as a revengeful act intended to embarrass its victim, but just the opposite. The picture is that of the high priest (Lev. 16:12) who, on the Day of Atonement, took his censer and filled it with “coals of fire” from off the altar of burnt offering, and then put incense on the coals to create a pleasing, sweet-smelling fragrance. The cloud or smoke of the incense covered the mercy seat and was acceptable to God for atonement. Samuel Wesley wrote:/ “So artists melt the sullen ore of lead,/ By heaping coals of fire upon its head:/ In the kind warmth the metal learns to glow,/ And pure from dross the silver runs below.”
As you so poignantly point out, every circumstance is a moment in waiting, a moment it submitting, a moment in hoping, a moment in growing in faith.
FUN FACTS on the DAY
ReplyDeleteIt is now Tishri 24 in Israel. Sunrise will be at 6:43 AM (Israel) which is 11:43 PM (EDT). Midday will be at 5:00 AM (EDT) and sunset will be at 6:05 PM (Israel) which is 11:05 AM (Eastern). Tishri 24 is the day when the Angel of the LORD arrived at the banks of the Tigris River to share the prophecy of the end of days with Daniel as found in (Daniel 10).
All hope in Jesus, all eyes on Christ!
Oh, I almost forgot...Here are a couple more details on the day,
DeleteQuoting Chabad.org,
"Returning Exiles Commit to Follow the Torah (335 BCE)
The Jews who had returned to the Land of Israel with Ezra and Nehemiah gathered on this day and repented their misdeeds, signing a document in which they committed to trust in G‑d and follow His ways."
...and the Torah portion for the day is Bereshit, meaning "the top of" or "beginning", (Genesis 1:1-13). We're at the beginning of the year of Torah reading. What a better day to go Home?!
Maranatha
GOD IS LOVE
ReplyDelete4 Love is patient and kind;
love does not envy or boast;
it is not arrogant
5 or rude. It does not insist
on its own way; it is not
irritable or resentful;
6 it does not rejoice at
wrongdoing, but rejoices
with the truth.
7 Love bears all things,
believes all things, hopes
all things, endures all
things.
8 Love never ends. As
for prophecies, they will
pass away; as for tongues,
they will cease; as for
knowledge, it will pass
away.
9 For we know in part and
we prophesy in part,
10 but when the perfect
comes, the partial will pass
away.
11 When I became a man,
I gave up childish ways.
12 For now we see in a
mirror dimly, but then face
to face. Now I know in part;
then I shall know fully, even
as I have been fully known.
13 So now faith, hope, and
love abide, these three; but
the greatest of these is
love.
(1 Corinthians 13:4-13 ESV)
GOD IS LOVE.
All hope in Jesus, all eyes on Christ.
I believe that November 8th, 2025 is the 17th day of the 2nd month on this year's original Hebrew calendar.
ReplyDeleteIf the Lord started the first worldwide judgment on that date, then it would be a pretty decent parallel for an event on that weekend to facilitate a November 11th Azovmena, and second worldwide judgment.
And like Noah, boarding the ark seven days prior, a Rapture on November 1st would be a fitting "All Saints Day."
Likewise, if all hell were to break loose after Halloween, it would be 1,260 days until Apophis.
Jeremy
Cheshvan (Heshvan) 17 is Saturday, November 8, 2025 according to Chabad.org. This is the modern civil calendar. The Essenes would place the flood in the Spring as that's where you'll find the second month. Not so with the Pharisees. Then, if you want to use Enoch? Well, I'll leave that to those who want to use Enoch...and I won't go into the Julian calendar.
DeleteSo, three days later is 11/11.
November 1st checks out as seven days prior to the Pharisee anniversary of the Great Flood (All Saints Day). All Saints Day + 1,260 days = Saturday, April 14, 2029 according to Timeanddate.com.
All of this changes how the first half of the 70th week may play out. It doesn't affect the last half. The question is, how it all fits considering the two-witnesses and their 1,260 day ministry? What does Scripture say?
I'm of the mind that we're very close to running out of days for their arrival if for their death and resurrection by an April 2029, AoD.
Much more study required.
Remember, we're not claiming to know the Day of our Lord's coming on the clouds. We're obediently looking for it as He commanded, with hope and expectation.
***Not saying that to you Jeremy, I know you get it. I'm saying that for anyone who doesn't expressly know. It's why we search the Scriptures and wait for His coming; just like the Maji (Magoi) before us!
May we be faithful students of Daniel.
All hope in Jesus, all eyes on Christ!
PR
Kushner: [ ] (Not a globally powerful military/political leader in charge of a large army and an empire of military bases in the Middle East)
ReplyDeleteMBS: [ ] (A Muslim who leads a country that worships Allah, the God of the Koran; therefore, not someone who refuses to submit to any gods and even proclaims himself to be God)
Macron: [ ] (A military/political leader, but not one who controls an empire of military bases in the Middle East, and not one who shares the biblical traits of the Antichrist, which include boastfulness, arrogance, constant lying, blasphemy, love of gold and a penchant for warlike, hateful rhetoric)
Trump: [x] (A globally powerful military/political leader in charge of a large army and an array of military bases in the Middle East, who is beloved by many in Israel and even seen as a sort of political messiah after arranging a peace deal in the Middle East; who blasphemes against heaven and those in heaven, and is also boastful, arrogant, always lying, and a lover of gold, who also recovered from a head wound and who rules from a city on seven hills (D.C.) and is a sort of end times Nero figure)
Unknown: [ ] (Possibly coming in the future, but is not on the current global scene and would have to come out of nowhere to upset the applecart and dramatically change the entire landscape in some way, something hard to envision given the lateness of the hour)
Trump is undoubtedly the Antichrist.
You are making a potenial good case Zachary for Trump as the AC but the Lord can always throw a pretty good "curve ball". I've supported and voted for Trump twice because he was an anti-globalist and an America first guy. In hind sight it's looking like he has always been a Trump first guy. So was I lacking discernment or was it that Trump was still the better of two bad choices? Sadly, I still like some of what he is doing but those things seem to be dwindling by the day. I was pretty appalled by his speech at the CK memorial service which other than a couple of speakers was amazing! The good news is everything occurring now pushes us closer to the return of Jesus. I love the high watch dates PR, Jeremy and others give us to observe. Keep em coming.
ReplyDeleteI tell people at our church regarding the rapture that in spite of my success in this world, good health and a wonderful family that follow Jesus, I'd leave it in a heart beat to be with Him in heaven. So for me the rapture was never about escaping a terrible life, anything but! Rather, it is all about "longing for His appearing" and leaving a "good life" here for an infinitely better life with Him in Heaven! I'm currently teaching a "Heaven" class at church using Randy Alcorn's book and loving it! It is going to be absolutey incredible! Even so come Lord Jesus!
"So was I lacking discernment or was it that Trump was still the better of two bad choices?"
DeleteBoth choices were horrendously bad, IMHO, and I don't think for a minute that Harris would have been a better leader than Trump is turning out to be. I do think that 2024 was the final US presidential election, and in that election I think God presented us with little to no opportunity to choose 'the lesser evil'. Harris constantly appeared in a tan pant-suit; this definitely reminded me of Hitler's iconic tan uniform. And she was the obvious candidate of appearing as anti-Israel, constantly blaming Israel for the Gaza deaths and saying almost nothing positive about Israel or the Jewish people. But Trump, who I see as the Antichrist, was (as scripture prophesied) presenting himself as a friend and ally to Israel, only later to betray and persecute them. The book of Daniel says that the Antichrist will obtain the kingdom by flattery and deception, not through voicing outright antagonism towards Israel. I wouldn't be too hard on yourself for voting for Trump, it was 'six in one hand, a half-dozen in the other hand,' as they say.
Another thing about Trump as the potential AC....we see what he said about forgiving ones enemies in the CK Memorial. Hmmm? Was that statement prophetic? We see him doing a 180 on Ukraine and Russia. We see him going after John Bolton who he now perceives as an enemy. We see him going after Comey who probably deserves what is coming. He is now firing federal employees. He has warned Hamas to stop killing citizens of Gaza or I'll kill you. So it is not much of a stretch to see him do a 180 on Israel at the mid point of "Jacobs Trouble"? He has a son in law who is Jewish and he appears to love Israel now but he is also shown it does not take much to get him riled up and then to "fire" the percieved offener either. We may see him as impulsive but he sees himself as decisive. Of course the other candidate for AC you did not mention was King Charles who was floated as a strong candidate a year or so ago. For me, I'm not that interested in knowing the identity of the AC past mild curiosity ................. because I'll be long gone. :)
ReplyDeleteDaniel 11:21 states that the Antichrist (like Antiochus IV Epiphanes, the Seleucid king who strategized to illegitimately seize power even though he was not in the line of royal descent) will not be born to royalty, but will seize his position through flatteries and with the help of a small group of people:
Delete"And in his place a despicable person will arise, on whom the majesty of kingship has not been conferred; but he will come in a time of tranquility and seize the kingdom by intrigue."
Kingship was legitimately conferred on King Charles after his mother's death, so he can't be the Antichrist.
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ReplyDeleteWould it be just too obvious to mention that there are 3 years lett of this term and he doesn't plan to leave office, but rather wangle another 4, making 7? I don't think we should feel bad about his being in office. It's the name for the time.
ReplyDelete"It's the name for the time." That's what I keep reminding myself of. Come, Lord Jesus, come.
DeleteAt https://www.raptureready.com/2025/10/04/rapture-date-setting-are-we-ashamed-yet-by-mark-a-becker/ "Rapture Date Setting: Are We Ashamed Yet? :: By Mark A. Becker".
ReplyDeleteDon't believe satan's lie that we can predict the Rapture by practicing Rapture soothsaying.
See also https://www.raptureready.com/2025/10/11/discouraged-or-challenged-by-nathele-graham/ "Discouraged Or Challenged? :: By Nathele Graham".
DeleteAgreed concerning soothsaying. Soothsaying is the practice or art of foretelling future events, such as through divination or other methods. Divination is expressly forbidden in the Bible as an occult practice. This needs to be distinguished from being awake and watchful for the coming of the LORD.
DeleteJesus commanded that we stay awake and watch twice in Matthew alone. The Spirit teaches us through Paul,
4 But you are not in darkness,
brothers, for that day to surprise
you like a thief.
5 For you are all children of
light, children of the day. We
are not of the night or of the
darkness.
(1 Thessalonians 5:4-5 ESV)
That's good enough for me!
I pray we all diligently dig and deep dive into God's Word with a humble spirit and contrite heart that we may hear what the Spirit is saying to His children; His body.
All hope in Jesus, all eyes on Christ,
PR
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DeleteThe whole argument that Christians should not watch for the Rapture, or try to understand the events, or especially the timing, concealed by our God, which give glory to His name . . . well, let's just say that such an argument is falling on my deaf ears.
DeleteI won't be chided like the Pharisees, for not knowing of His arrival.
There are always going to be people living foolishly, and we are all guilty of walking erratically, but I grow tired of disinterested Christians blaming excited and blossoming Christians for seeking insight and wisdom.
If you sold your house because Joshua predicted a rapture in September, and Jeremy just so happens to see a calendar convergence at the same time, and now that upsets you, then all I can say is that I'm sorry that you did something you regret. And that's not because I'm prideful or lacking empathy. It's because you are responsible for you. And all I can do is continue to pray for you, and seek more understanding to clear up the picture, since you've decided to sit on your talents while the master was gone.
You should've been awake in the first place. And you most certainly shouldn't go back to sleep. And if that's your attitude, that somehow the things of this world matter a whole bunch, except when there's a high-watch date, then you have bigger problems.
Either way, no Christian is responsible for another's faith or walk. And I already am trying to help, as much as possible, by using my spiritual gifts, and telling others all that I see in front of me. And, yes, I am hopeful. But . . . as I often say, I DO NOT know the date of the Rapture.
What a tiring and lazy subject!
Jesus knows exactly who His sheep are. To the extent that we each find reasonable, shouldn't we ALL sell our houses and lives for the Kingdom? Isn't that EXACTLY what Jesus asked His followers to do? And don't we have clear examples, in the Bible, of that same thing?
No one is going to steal my Blessed Hope. No one.
I'm looking for the Return of the King. And that very act makes my interactions and conversations with the world all the more powerful.
If the Disciples can ask Jesus, Himself, for the signs of His coming, then you can bet your bottom dollar that I won't feel sheepish about asking for the same.
A real ministry is made all the more effective by watching and seeking. There is a Crown given to those who do so. And there is a blessing on those who try to read, understand, and act upon the Revelation of Jesus Christ.
And . . . my own walk with Him has grown 20x more effective with those around me, because through the lens of these times, I can actually see more clearly WHO matters behind all of it. And I am not ashamed to sound the alarm as a watchman. HE IS COMING. Better check that oil . . . because that little red flashing lamp icon on your instrument cluster? That's Jesus, with some time-critical information for you.
Jeremy
Well said Jeremy! BRAVO
DeleteSPEAKING of STILL BEING HERE (Continued)
ReplyDeleteConsidering all of this, what then do we *KNOW* happens just before the harpazo?
1. The number of the martyred saints is complete
2. The dragon is before the woman (Israel/Jerusalem)
3. The dragon intends to devour the man-child
This begs to question, how would the dragon (Satan) devour the body of Christ on Earth? I believe a reasonable answer to that question is by fire; a global fire that is thermonuclear war, limited or otherwise. That threat of war *may* be a key piece to the puzzle of *when* we are taken Homeward.
*IF* it were true that,
1. Yom Teruah, 2025 was fulfilled according to G-D
2. Wars and rumors of war will bloom into conflict between the beast and the whore
3. The man-child will be taken to safety before said war (restrainer removed)
4. God will protect and nourish the woman
It would seem reasonable that, in this scenario, there is NO WAY of knowing WHEN the harpazo will occur. It is dependent on *when* war will break-out and, perhaps more importantly, *when* the full number of the fifth seal saints comes in.
The moedim may not exclude us (Gentiles), but we aren't called to observe them either. We certainly can, but we're not called to observe them today. They are for and about Israel. The Gentile church is a grafted member and a separate, although kindred, entity from the woman. We are her children; but not her. Therefore, *IF* Yom Teruah was fulfilled, the trumpet blast that gathers His people to assembly and repentant worship, it makes sense that they would gather before the LORD at the gates just as they did in the days of Nehemiah.
Could Yom Teruah, 2025 been that call to assembly and the beginning of the 70th week?
The harpazo of the Gentile church would be just that, the harpazo of the watchful virgins. The rest would remain, left behind to face the time of testing for the inhabitants of the earth. (Revelation 3:10) and (Matthew 25:11-13) We, the body of Christ, are not the woman. We are not Israel. We will be grafted together, but together in Jesus. Therefore, I ponder the question,
Does the harpazo really have to happen on Yom Teruah? Is Yom Teruah for us or for Israel?
Accordingly, what do we see happening after we're gone? Out of Israel come 144,000 ministers of the faith proclaiming Jesus. They, as well as the two witnesses, will proclaim Christ Jesus to the world fueling a revival that will stoke the hatred of the dragon. They will loose their lives yet gain them. It will gain all power yet loose it.
Just some thoughts as I consider what has happened and where we are in the scheme of things. A 2025 rapture is still very much in play, but if so, we won't know when until the final pieces (war) falls into place. I don't see how we could know without special revelation from GOD.
More prayer and study are called for...
All hope in Jesus, all eyes on Christ!
Pastor Rich
If the "Day of the Lord" is a reference to the time of the supernatural judgements ie vials thunders trumpets etc, and if that time is 3.5 years consider this... If we are operating under the understanding that there will be 6000 years of rule of man with a 1000 year sabbath millenium or "Lords day" might it not then be reasonable to conclude that the "Day of the Lord" begins the "Lords day"?
DeleteIn other words we are all assuming that the "Day of the Lord" Immediately precedes the Sabbath Millenium or the Lords day. But might it not make more sense to conclude that the "Day of the Lord" actually is located in the first few years of the millenium and not the last few years that precede it?
Perhaps the reason we seem so close in world events but also at this point past due the time is because our assumption, in error, of placing the 3.5 years of supernatural judgement "Day of the Lord" just before the millennial reign when we should be placing it during the "Lords day" the 1000 years millennial reign. When you do that it also makes the church age a full 2000 years or 2 days instead of oddly just short of a full 2000 years or 2 millennial days.
If the church age had concluded this year or last it would be shy of 2000 years or 2 days. I think it may be time to rethink our assumptions.
So it should look like this...
3.5 year tribulation --- midpoint --- 3.5 year "Day of the Lord"
With the midpoint being 2030ad exactly 2000 years from the crucifixion or 2 millennial days and the midpoint then starting the 1000 year millennial reign with the Lord cleansing the earth, ie "Day of the Lord" during his millennial reign instead of before it.
That slightly different approach in understanding would account for all the variables and would make sense of why the world seems just about ready to explode into tribulation (wars and rumours of war) but at the same time also seems oddly just past the deadline for traditional interpretations to work.
Maybe we are scratching our heads in disbelief that the time has come and gone when in fact we have just made a small assumption regarding timing that is wrong.
Hi Bob,
DeleteThank you for chiming in! I just posted comments that are relevant to your thoughts as well. Those comments come from a lot of study and model building based on Scripture and historical data. I highly recommend model building as an approach to Bible study as it helps keep the pieces aligned.
The thought behind the 70th week having begun at Rosh HaShana this year has to do with a 2025 harpazo, and according to my study model. I have seen commentary that the wrong calendar is being used, seen many times in the past, which may (or may not) be wrong. We'll have to wait and see.
Beyond that, I will be looking toward 2033 as the end of D70W even though I am still skeptical of that.
"Be still and know that I am God" comes to mind and is where I'm found these days. No matter what happens, keep following Jesus!
Study well,
PR
Proof-readers, untie,
Delete"The thought behind the 70th week having begun at Rosh HaShana this year has to do with a 2025 harpazo"
...would be better stated,
"The thought behind the 70th week having begun at Rosh HaShana this year has to do with a 2032 Second Coming and a 3 BC nativity."
The response mentioned is below to Jon.
...and if you're wondering about my use of gates before the assembly of Israel? It is commonly understood in Judaism that Rosh HaShana represents an open door in heaven that is for seven (7) days. That seven (7) days is called the Yamim Noarim (Days of Awe), also known as "the terrible days", and is concluded at Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) when the doors of heaven are closed. Therefore, the seven years of the Great Tribulation (D70W) are equal to the seven days of repentance between Rosh HaShana and Yom Kippur.
ReplyDeleteAn open doorway (gate) for the repentant who answer the trumpet call to come in worship before the LORD G-D.
@Gary, I think one of my posts today (10/17) got pulled for your approval.
ReplyDeletePastor Rich and Bob, very interesting thoughts....re-thinking possibilities of timing.....I like it....and wonder about the timing since the Rev 12 sign.....as it relates to end times
DeleteAs an illustration, if I was driving east on an interstate highway that was in California, I wouldn't expect a sign to say 3000 more miles till I get to New York......likewise, I wouldn't expect the Rev 12 sign on 9/23/2017 to be pointing to a date 300 years after the sign.......but rather one might wonder if the Rev 12 sign would be a certain number of years before the rapture or midpoint or when Christ returns ....3 years, 7 years, 8 years, 12 years, 50 years, etc. ......maybe an interval that was used for another prophecy. And would the Rev 12 sign pertain to the rapture or to the 2nd coming of Christ, etc.
From the sign on 9/23/2017 till now (2025) is roughly 8 years....and till September 2029 it would be 12 years and till 2030 it would be 13 years......and till 2032 would be 15 years....
Jon
Hi Jon,
DeleteWhen we found ourselves here on 9/24/17 it was apparent that the R12S was a mile marker. Your question about a mile marker to what is a good one. The imagery of (Revelation 12:1-2) is that of a woman in travail and about to give birth. That is rapture imagery and so we have expected a mile marker to the rapture.
Inside of the rapture imagery are several elements,
1. The dragon standing before the woman (tribulation)
2. The dragon sweeping 1/3rd of stars from heaven (war in heaven)
3. Full term of the man-child (R12S)
4. Birth of the man-child (harpazo)
5. Attack of the dragon upon the woman (war on Israel)
6. Flight of the woman to the wilderness (AoD)
7. The defense of the woman from the dragon and its armies (war on Israel)
8. The woman in the wilderness (Great tribulation)
9. War on the left-behind children of the woman (time of testing)
To understand this we need to have an informed view of greater Scripture. The beginning of all of this is the woman in travail. How long has she been in travail? I would point to the birth of Christ. Jesus is the head of the Church and the head is what is *supposed* to come first in a live birth. Thus Jesus came first then His body the Church.
This would indicate that the process of labour and delivery began under the reign of Herod the Great, a satanic (dragon) figure and will end at a future date when the dragon, another satanic figure, is prominent on the world stage. Likely one in command of strategic nuclear forces, IMHO. How does a dragon devour its prey on a global scale? By fire. In this model the child would consist of Jesus and His body the Spirit-filled Church. The woman is Israel or more specifically, Jerusalem. Are we not as Christians children of Abraham? Indeed we are.
Parallel to this is the restrainer. That which restrains must be removed and this is understood to be the Spirit-filled body of Christ. I posit, this is who the rider on the white horse is in (Revelation 6). He was sent out to conquer by Jesus in the first century, perhaps after giving of the Great Commission after His ascension.
Was the dragon present in the world? Yes it was.
Therefore we see an uptick in war, poverty, death and disease as humanity spreads out and the gospel with it. This is an era known as the Age of Grace or the Church Age and according to the DSS is a two-thousand year ordeal. The R12S is a marker for the end of that age.
The end of the age is further detailed by Jesus Himself in (Matthew 25) where He shares that from beginning to end as,
1. The harpazo of the wise virgins
2. The Bema Seat Judgment (reward) of those given the talents
3. The Sheep and Goat judgment of those entering into the Millennial Kingdom
All of these events are pinned on the harpazo, the restrainer removed, the coming of the Bridegroom and the Wedding Feast of the Lamb. For these reasons and more, I understand the R12S points to the resurrection/rapture.
Is that mile marker pinned on another prophecy or point in Scripture? That's the $64,000 question.
All hope in Jesus, all eyes on Christ,
PR
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DeleteThinking about Rosh HaShana, 2026...
DeleteRosh HaShana, 2026 will mark the 9th year since the R12S. Nine (9) appears 50 times in 49 KJV Bible verses. Most significantly, it was the ninth hour that Jesus gave up His Spirit on the cross making the way of salvation available to everyone. His proclamation,
"It is finished"
...connects us, observant virgins, directly with the ninth hour via His death.
If the number nine symbolizes divine completeness or conveys a meaning of finality, then perhaps that will be a part of the equation of how long between the R12S and the harpazo.
What About the Starting Point?
I've also been considering the (Psalm 90:10) model. It begins at the birth of the State of Israel on May 14, 1948. *IF* to look for another start date, where do we begin? Lou, I'm sure you could offer some light on that topic. I'm considering the shmitah cycles with the first shmitah year begin 1951-52.
More study.
MONDAY, OCTOBER 20, 2025
DeleteToday, for those of us on the other side of the International Date Line, will be 1,260 days to Easter Sunday (Resurrection Day), April 1, 2029. Just a glimpse at what a potential ministry of the two-witnesses would look like.
*IF* the LORD came in the next couple of days, as some suggest, the two witnesses would almost certainly come at the same time and depart during Pesach, 2029. This is a scenario that is still in play if for a 2032 Second Coming.
2,550 days from Yom Teruah, 2025 is Yom Kippur, 2032. 2,520 days from October 22, 2025 is Yom Kippur, 2032. This *could* equate to Yom Teruah, 2025 as being the trumpet call to the people to come before the LORD as they did in the days of Nehemiah and the beginning of the 70th week. The next moed, Yom Kippur, would be fulfilled at the Second Coming of our Lord Jesus. This follows the pattern of the two days of Yom Teruah (49-hours) followed by seven days which leads to Yom Kippur. Seven days of repentance followed by judgment v seven years of testing followed by judgment.
This coming week is a crucial week concerning the standard model.
All hope in Jesus, all eyes on Christ,
PR
PS, I had a thought concerning the two-witnesses. Some believe they are Elijah and Enoch while others say Elijah and Moses, if not ones who come in their spirit. It occurred to me that though Elijah and Enoch were both taken by G-D; Moses died. Moses therefore *may* represent those asleep in Christ while Elijah represents the living.
Just a thought...
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ReplyDeleteBob,
ReplyDeleteI, too, was going to say that I like the way you think.
I don't think that I can agree with your example, per se, but it would take me more time and thought, in order to refute that exact concept of a tribulation reversal.
But I really like what you're doing. Thinking outside the box. Taking what is known and then trying to imagine new ways for the pieces to fit. And I think that is the way we should interpret Scripture. Seeking knowledge, understanding examples, allowing for lessons, watching for signs, and reading for the sake of learning, without ever pretending to know what we can't, or ignoring what we don't like.
I appreciate what you're entertaining, and likewise with the models that PR and others put forward.
I'm amazed when I see dual-fulfilment and shared-fulfilment and shadows-of-fulfilment all at the same time. And I, too, highly doubt that the age-old interpretation of seal/trumpet/bowl timing is properly understood.
But the search for knowledge and wisdom is worth the effort. And I think it's a blessing, all on its own. I still remember when I happened to be listening to a Dr. Barry Awe video, a few years ago, and he drew the connection between Christ's bleeding spear wound in the side, to the single Ark door in the side, to the red curtain hanging out the side of the wall at Rahab's window, to the red curtains leading to God's seat in the Temple. A single red thread, or side opening, through which we are all saved.
The Word of God is shallow and deep. Close, yet far-reaching. And so worth our time. And I love hearing about the theories you all have regarding the overlaps and events of the Last Days. Not just because they bring hope in the short term, but because they show a more complete picture of the love that was extended as His grace was given.
He has ALWAYS been working, in every conceivable subject and sphere . . . and for us, who least deserve it. I mean . . . WOW!
Jeremy
Thank you, Jeremy!
DeleteI find myself wondering what I'm going to do when the earth starts shaking?! So much will happen all at once; it may happen so quickly we won't have time to react until it's over.
Remember, a parallel study I made of the trumpets and bowl judgments suggest they happen almost simultaneously. Trumpet one and bowl one are not in synch, but the rest appear to be in step with each other right to the end. They take up the 70th week.
At least that's what my studies have led me to.
There are some that believe (myself included) that as Daniel 9 states the Messiah would appear at the end of the 69th week and would be latter cut off during the 70th week implying the 70th week is half played out already.
DeleteIn other words the "appearing" was not the "cutting off". The "cutting off" happened latter during the following week.
Take Artaxerxes’ first decree 458bc add the 69 weeks to that 483 days/years and you get to 26ad when Jesus "appeared" before the people starting his public ministry right on schedule. His ministry then lasted 3.5 years into the 70th week when he was cut off leaving 3.5 years remaining.
That is why I believe all the references to time in the book of revelation are to a 3.5 year time frame. 1260 days, 42 months, time times and half a time. All references to 3.5 years because that is what remains to fulfill the latter half of the 70th week. The first half of that week transpired during Jesus ministry. The math adds up.
I am also convinced that the crucifixion happened in 30 ad because the Jews were punished for that abominable act 40 years latter when the seige of Jerusalem happened and a million jews were killed. That fits with the pattern of 40 years of punishment, or exile, or testing that we see over and over again in scripture. The Ninevites were given 40 days to repent or be wiped out. They repented. Like wise the Jews were given 40 years but they did not, and so they were punished. That is the indicator to me that supersedes the various "scholarly" dates and narrows it down to the one and only 30ad.
Where would you place Jesus' birth year?
DeleteAlso, where do you place the death of Herod the Great?
DeleteRE: Psalm 90 Timeline?
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Pastor Rich and Unslead.org Fam,
Thanks for the inquiry. For some reason I cannot receive any more notifications of posts being made here. I have the same issue over at Revelation 12 Daily. I was told by our Sister Carole that you had a question. I am long-winded with words, so I will try to be as concise as possible but will doubt it. Sorry, so bear with me. I do have 2 working theories about 1948, that one is convinced was the prophetic fulfillment of the reconstitution of the Nation of Israel, per Ezekiel’s ‘Dry Bones’ typology.
Sure, Modern Israel was funded by the ‘Zionist’ Entities, as they say and are secular, and they deny and hate Jesus, etc. So, what is new? This has been the issue since Sinai, as a Nation and since Jacob really. This is why Jacob’s Troubles are coming. But as to that point, consider that if Israel would have not been ‘Secular’ as a State, although considered ‘the Jewish State’, it would have not allowed Christian Missionary Work to occur as it reluctantly has to presently.
Sure, the Orthodox Jews frown, complain and try to curtail it with Law, etc. The State of Israel would rather have started out imposing its Covenant of Moses. Then it would be as it will be during the Tribulation Period. But YHVH knew that. We are experiencing at the ‘End’ of this Church Age, as it began with an ‘Overlap’. It is, that in the Jewish State, is in a state of rebellion, with imposed spiritual blindness and still a national rejection of the Gospel. Nonetheless, the Gospel is being preached there in Israel despite opposition.
If Israel would have started off as a Theocracy with the Sanhedrin at the helm in 1948, any Christian believing and exclaiming through the Gospel that Jesus is LORD, as Creator GOD would be killed based on the Law of Moses, condemned as a Blasphemer and put to death by decapitation, as prescribed in the Talmud. All that is coming as we know. So, 1948? One is convinced that it was not the year to consider the ‘Countdown’ to either the timing of the conclusion of the 7-Fold Church Age, nor the Rapture or the start of 7-Year Tribulation or when the midpoint when the Daily Offering will be stopped. Here are the 2 working theories.
1. THEORY: PARABLE OF THE UNFRUITFUL FIG TREE PATTERN
Luke 13:6-9
Based on one’s interpretation of the Parable given by Jesus, the year count would be in the 4th Year. See if that makes sense. Thus, from 1948 when Israel was declared to be ‘Born’ by David Ben Gurion would be as if Israel is indeed the 'Fig Tree', planted back in the Promised Land. And the Law of Trees specified when the Fruit could start to be harvested and eaten. It was also tied to when the Land Sabbaths would start to be counted. Thus, this is 1 theory that suggests when the Shemitah Cycles started to be resynchronized, not in 1948 but rather in 1952.
What it could mean or insinuate is that if one then counts down the 70 Year Generation from 1952, it would be 2022. And if one then adds the subsequent Shemitah of 7 Years, it would be 2029. And? One suggests that this will be the midpoint of the 7-Year Tribulation. Perhaps. If we then adds the 80 Year Generation per Psalm 90, then we get to 2032. For several years, this was my hopeful 7-Year Tribulation Timeline. It was really exciting, but alas, the model has to be recalibrated to perhaps factor a 2026 end of the Church Age, culminating it with the Rapture event, etc.
1948 + 4 Year (Fig Tree Parable) = 1952
1952 + 70 Year Generation = 2022
1952 + 80 Year Generation = 2032
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Delete2. THEORY: 7-YEAR FURLOUGH OF THE CANAANITE CONQUEST PATTERN
Joshua 3:2-17 Joshua 11:23; 14:5
The other working theory of mine has to do with the pattern that one also sees and has considered based on when Israel, under Joshua entered the Promised Land. One understands that the exact year of when the ‘Crossing’ of Jordan River happened is in dispute. One is relying on the astronomical Blood Moon of the Exodus that occurred in -1448 BC to determine that.
Based solely on this astronomical occurrence, the 40-Year Wondering would put that crossing of the Jordan River into the Promised Land at -1408 BC, etc. Regardless of the exact year, the working theory is that based on the Biblical Record, it took 7 Years for Joshua to clear the Promised Land. And? In this case, the counting of the Sabbaths of the Land started only then, not on the 1st day Israel crossed into the Promised Land.
Thus, the year count starting after the 7th Year was completed. This is key and why 2026 then comes into play. It has to do with ‘Complete Years’ when considering the countdown from either 1952 or 1955, regardless in one’s assessment. Thus, what if this same pattern of having to wait a whole Shemitah for 7 Years is what is also occurring since 1948 with the modern rebirth of National Israel? Here then is the possible timeline.
1948 + 7 Year (Canaan Conquest) = 1955
1955 + 70 Year Generation = 2025
1955 + 80 Year Generation = 2035
Note that the 80 Year Generation of 2035 would put those Jews born in 1948 at 87 years of age. So, bear in mind that these are just one’s approximations based on conjecture. It will remain to be seen what the LORD will do. And that is part of the excitement, expectation and anticipation in watching. So, this theory is still a work-in-progress.
If anything, it shows just how close the Bride of Christ to be raptured off Earth in this generation that will end of the Church Age. The following will be a chart that provides a visual of one’s next conjecture of when, possibly the Church Age is to end and perhaps the timing of the Rapture, in a general sense or ‘Season’
3) THEORY: A JUBILEE 120 YEAR PATTERN
The following is the synopsis noted on the chart. The purpose of this illustration is to depict, visually, 2 aspects of a timeline since 32 AD. The 1st aspect has to do with the amount of time or overlap that the nation of Israel and the Body of Christ, i.e., the Church Age occurred.
This overlap has now only occurred since 70 AD and again in 1948. What one has done is that in identifying the duration of these 2 overlaps, it is then combined to ascertain the numerical factor in terms of years. Why? This compilation could provide a possible prophetic time-frame as to when the Church Age is to conclude and perhaps the year of the Rapture.
The 2nd aspect one is considering, is in relation to what Prophetic Time is so often categorized in the Bible with. It is defined on several occasions as being a factor of 120. It has to do with the Flood, the amount of Jubilees since Adam, etc. Here again, perhaps this factor has also to do with the timing and/or year of the Rapture in some sort of way.
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DeleteOne’s finding is that the 2 overlaps are equal to 120 years and strongly suggests that the 120th year will be 2029 when the Daily Sacrifices are to stop, as they did in 70 AD. Coincidence? More study is required. But one finds these 2 overlaps, at the beginning and the end of the Church Age could be prophetically significant. Here are the 2 overlaps in question.
OVERLAP 1
Israel and Church Body
32 AD ———————- 70 AD = ( 38 Years )
Church Body birthed and Israel destroyed
OVERLAP 2
Church Body and Israel
1947* AD ———————- **2026 AD = ( 79 Years ) *U.N. Partition Plan. **Rapture Year?
Israel rebirthed and Church Body delivered?
AGGREGATED TIME-FRAMES
( 38 Years ) + ( 79 Years ) = 117 Years + 3.5 Year Mid-Tribulation
= In the 120th Year
As to the Crucifixion and Rapture year? So, here is where one at with all this. One still holds to the 32 AD Crucifixion Theory. I am still convinced of 32 AD, purely due to the Blood Moon, the Chinese Astronomy Record and that of Sallas the Historian, for example. If you press A.I., for example to have to consider the 'historical year count' and apply the Zeller's Congruence to the calculations, then it will concede to a, 'Wednesday, April 14, 32 AD' date.
So, that means that the Rapture could occur then in 2026 and the return of Jesus in 2033. Note that from Blood Moon of April 14, 32 AD to Blood Moon of April 14, 2033 is 2000 Complete Years + 1 Year for the ‘End Year Included factor. It will be precisely 2000 +1 years, to the day. This is extremely exciting as it is backed by Astronomy also. I have another working theory that incorporates the Great Pyramid’s dimensions as to the possible end of the Age and return of Jesus.
It is another ‘Rabbit Hole’ based on my study of Astro-Archaeology. In brief, the Great Pyramid is as a Cosmic Clock. The Sphinx is as the ‘Hour Hand’. It is tracking the Precession of the Equinoxes. And? The very Sacred Cubits of the structure not only encode the Speed of Light, the Circumference of the Globe, sorry, no ‘Flat Earth’, but the year of when the present Age will end, 2033.
So, one is now considering that the timeline and year count from either 1948, 1952 or 1955 have to be then 'completed years'. This is in the sense that from 32 AD to 2025 are 1993 years. But it is then from 1994 that the 7 remaining years constitute the more accurate timeline, perhaps. It is when one uses the TimeAndDate website to count years, months, weeks and days. There is a feature to either include the 'End Date'.
In this case, it is now a matter of having to include the 'End Year' 2025. This is why, then the start year is not 2025, but from 2026. So, it resonated when you noted the 9th Year from the Revelation 12 Sign. Then the factor of 50 Years. These numbers, as you and other Researchers know are important ones that keep occurring, related to Prophecy and how YHVH delineates 'Time', Prophetic Time. I plan to look into all that, time permitting. Plus if WW3 reaches our shores...there will be more pressing issues to deal with.
Keep the Watch,
Lu Vega
www.PostScripts
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Chart
OVERLAPS OF ISRAEL AND THE CHURCH AGE
APPROXIMATE 120 PENTECOSTAL JUBILEES OF TIME PATTERN
120 Jubilees x 50 years = 6000 Years
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i8y-GFl3tSidTAcUzTym6XmU6kvGBaL-/view?usp=drive_link
Thank you, Lu! I'll be reading more tomorrow!!
DeleteA NEW CLEAN SHEET MODEL (UPDATE)
ReplyDeleteA new update to the clean sheet model has been uploaded to my website. This update suggests our departure anytime between now, October 20, 2025 up to, and including, October 23, 2025.
Beyond that? I don't know.
We may be looking at a 2033 Second Coming and a model I have yet to delve into.
Post any questions you have here and I'll do my best to answer them!
All hope in Jesus, all eyes on Christ!
PR