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Putting The Pieces Together: Part 2

This article is a followup to an article I wrote earlier this year and will probably be a bit disorganized and I apologize for that.  We continue to uncover a lot of pieces to the prophetic puzzle and it looks like we may have little time left to share it.  Normally I like to move slow on research and test it out thoroughly, but because of the lateness of the hour I want to share with you some of the highlights being discussed in our fellowship (credit to Adam, Barry, Brad, Daniel, Greg, Jeff, Jim, Paul, and Scottie for different bits of insight).


Moving Forward


Many people were disappointed by 9/23 and the scoffers really came out of the woodwork.  The media promoted and sensationalized a false narrative that Christians were claiming the world was going to end, which just added to the hype.  No one claimed that the world was ending and in regards to the rapture, we have said the same thing about 2017 for the past year and a half: we don't know for sure the day or hour.  No one at Unsealed, nor among those that I fellowship with, are claiming a special insight not available to the Church at large.  No one is claiming to be a prophet.  We are just researching, praying, and speculating as we long to meet the LORD.

I do believe Revelation 12:1-2 was just fulfilled and the evidence seems more and more compelling.  I can't dismiss this Great Sign because it can't be debunked.  It does match the description in Revelation 12.  That's either the most amazing coincidence in modern history or it's by design.  On the mornings of the 23rd and 24th many of us actually saw the 12-star crown rising in the east and it was a beautiful sight to behold, complete with Mercury, Mars, and Venus.  This got me to thinking: observers in many parts of the world actually could see the entire Great Sign if they had looked.  In Israel from about 5:40 to 6:05 AM on the 23rd and 24th the entire 12-star crown was visible in the east.  Then Virgo rose while clothed with the sun followed by a faintly visible crescent moon under her feet.  A roughly 4-hour time-lapse would have shown the entire sign. 

Regarding the mockers, they fall into two camps, both of which fulfill prophecies to their own shame:

1. Unbelievers outside of the Church:

Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires.  They will say, "Where is this ‘coming’ he promised?  Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation."  But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water.  By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed.  By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.
- 2 Peter 3:3-7

2. Unbelievers who claim to be part of the Church:

But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, "My master is staying away a long time," and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards.  The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of.  He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
- Matthew 24:48-51

Now I know there are differing interpretive opinions about Matthew 24's dispensational placement, but I find these four verses to be fascinating because of what we're now witnessing.  Isn't it interesting that Christians who refuse to look for the coming of Christ and who join in with the scoffers to falsely accuse, beat, and malign those Believers who are hoping, watching, and longing for the LORD, are repeating "no one knows the day or hour" ad infinitum, not realizing that in that same passage it is the wicked servants who are caught unaware.  It is the wicked who are in the dark and who know neither the day nor hour.  This comports perfectly with 1 Thessalonians 5:3-4, Hebrews 10:25, and Revelation 3:3.  Immediately following those four verses in Matthew 24 is The Parable of the Ten Virgins.  We are saved through faith alone, but does the Christian who routinely mocks and beats his brother, who loves the world more than God, and who has little interest in being with the LORD actually have faith?  Faith isn't in the head, it's in the heart.

Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of scoffers.
- Psalm 1:1


Setting The Record Straight About The Feasts


As we continue to study and pick up the pieces some information has recently come to light that may have dramatic implications.  Before you absorb this you first need to clear your mind of assumptions.  I think we've all been partially blinded by the traditions of men and outside commentaries when it comes to what are commonly called "The Feasts of the LORD".  Let's just stick to the Bible to get a basic framework from relevant passages in Leviticus and Numbers.  Leviticus 23 is the foundational passage as it lists all seven "feasts".

1. These are moed, which means appointment or meeting.  "Festival" and "feast" seem to be poor translations.  To carry the correct meaning, we really need to call these "The Appointments of the LORD", because for the most part they are anything but festivals and there is often no feasting.  These are divine and prophetic meetings between God and man.

2. The other Hebrew word used to define these appointments is miqra, which means convocation or sacred assembly.  However, don't get moed and miqra confused - there are seven moedim, but not every moed is a miqra.  Passover and First Fruits are not called miqra.  There is no sacred assembly on those days.  Five of the moedim have sacred assemblies (Unleavened Bread, Weeks, Trumpets, Atonement, and Tabernacles).  Two of the moedim have two assemblies (Unleavened Bread and Tabernacles).  Thus there are seven Divine Appointments:

Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Weeks, Trumpets, Atonement, and Tabernacles

And there are seven Sacred Assemblies:

Unleavened Bread #1, Unleavened Bread #7, Weeks, Trumpets, Atonement, Tabernacles #1, and Tabernacles #8

3. There is no such thing as a "Feast of Trumpets" - unless you mean every moedim.  This has been majorly overlooked and needs to be investigated further because it could have profound prophetic implications.  1 Corinthians 15:52 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16 associate the resurrection and rapture of Christ's Church with a trumpet (the last trumpet and the trumpet of God, respectively), which has given Christians a natural desire to associate the timing of the rapture with the Feast of Trumpets.

The problem is that neither of the two passages that define this particular appointment explicitly involve trumpets (Lev. 23:23-24, Num. 29:1).  The Hebrew word used is teruah, which means shout or alarm.  Hebrew has more exact words for trumpets: shophar (ram's horn) and chatsotsrah (metal or generic man-made trumpet).  These words are both used in Leviticus and Numbers when a trumpet is explicitly mentioned, so let's clear this up...

Teruah:



Shophar:



Chatsotsrah:



2 Chronicles 15:14 actually distinguishes between all three:

They swore an oath to the LORD with a loud voice and with shouting [teruah] and with trumpets [chatsotsrah] and with horns [shophar].

The so called "Feast of Trumpets" is actually called a "Memorial of Shouting" in Leviticus 23:24 and a "Day of Shouting" in Numbers 29:1.  Yom Teruah.  Therefore the seven moedim should actually be Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Weeks, Shouting, Atonement, and Tabernacles.  Rabbinical tradition has added confusion.

4. 1 Thessalonians 4:16 tells us that the trumpet which signals the rapture is the "trumpet of God".  How might we identify this?  In New Testament Greek all trumpets are called salpigx.  No distinguishment is made between the Hebrew chatsotsrah and shophar, so we have to go back to the Old Testament to figure this out and the answer is actually pretty obvious:

First, the chatsotsrah is a man-made musical instrument (Numbers 10:2), whereas the shophar is from an animal - it is made by God.

Second, we have a clear rapture template in Exodus 19 complete with God descending, a cloud, a trumpet, and a righteous man ascending to meet Him halfway.  It fits 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 like a glove:

On the morning of the third day there was thunder and lightning, with a thick cloud over the mountain, and a very loud trumpet blast.  Everyone in the camp trembled.  Then Moses led the people out of the camp to meet with God, and they stood at the foot of the mountain.  Mount Sinai was covered with smoke, because the Lord descended on it in fire. The smoke billowed up from it like smoke from a furnace, and the whole mountain trembled violently.  As the sound of the trumpet grew louder and louder, Moses spoke and the voice of God answered him.  The Lord descended to the top of Mount Sinai and called Moses to the top of the mountain. So Moses went up...
- Exodus 19:16-20

Compare this passage to 1 Thessalonians 4:

For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.  Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

The trumpet sound that accompanied God's descent, which is mentioned twice in Exodus 19, is none other than the shophar (commonly spelled shofar).  Now here is the clincher for me: the term "trumpet of God" is only found in 1 Thessalonians 4:16, but there seems to be a clear reference to the trumpet that God Himself sounds in Zechariah 9:14 and the word used is shophar:

Then the LORD will appear over them, and his arrow will go forth like lightning; the Lord GOD will sound the trumpet [shophar] and will march forth in the whirlwinds of the south.

Psalm 47:5 appears to provide a double-witness that the shophar is the trumpet of God:

God has gone up with a shout, the Lord with the sound of a trumpet [shophar].

The evidence seems fairly conclusive to me that neither teruah nor chatsotsrah constitute God's trumpet.  The shophar is the trumpet of God.


The Overlooked Appointment


Believers recognize that Christ will return for His Church at a precise time, perhaps even on a moed, but we may not know when exactly that will be.  Jesus fulfilled Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, and Pentecost on the exact days.  There is also growing consensus that He was born or conceived on Yom Teruah or Tabernacles.  However, His ascension occurred outside of the moedim, so we should never put God in a box.  But if we're humble, prayerful, and watching, we should be aware of how close Christ's arrival is.  Matthew 24:48-51, 1 Thessalonians 5:3-4, Hebrews 10:25, and Revelation 3:3 seem to pretty clearly indicate that watchful Believers will be aware of the time, while unbelievers and perhaps even some Believers will be caught by surprise.

My honest opinion is that the doctrine of imminency is an attempt to put God in a box just as much as those who set exact dates.  Both sides fail to accept the genuine tension that exists in the Scriptures on the subject.  Everyone just wants to be right in their "camp", but it usually comes at a cost - neglecting the Scriptures that the other side uses.

With that foundation laid, I want to offer a speculation that some of us are currently discussing: Atonement or Tabernacles may be better candidates for the rapture.

Numbers 10:10 describes how chatsotsrah (man-made trumpets) were blown over all of the offerings and sacrifices made on the moedim, thus in a certain sense every moed is a "Feast of Trumpets".  Since Tabernacles is the last appointment, you could make an argument that it is the time of the last trumpet.  However, the chatsotsrah is not the trumpet of God and these trumpets are only blown over sacrifices and offerings - they are not a general call to the people.

Is the trumpet of God ever sounded on a moed?  Yes, and in fact it's the appointment that has been most overlooked as a template for the rapture: the Day of Atonement.  According to Leviticus 25:9, the shophar is sounded "throughout all the land" on the Day of Atonement announcing the Year of Jubilee.  In the Torah itself only one moed is explicitly identified with the trumpet and it's Atonement - and only on the Year of Jubilee.  Thus at the end of every Jubilee cycle the shophar is blown throughout all the land announcing the Jubilee year.  This shophar signals:

1. Liberty to all captives in the land (Lev. 25:10; compare to Rom. 7:24, 8:2, 8:21, 8:23).

2. Eating freely and rest from labor (Lev. 25:11-12; compare to Heb. 4:9-10, Rev. 2:7, Rev. 14:13).

3. Returning to your land, property, and family (Lev. 25:10, 13; compare to Is. 26:19-20, Jn. 14:2-3, Rom. 8:17, Gal. 3:29, 4:7, Eph. 1:3).

Remember that according to Leviticus 23:27, the Day of Atonement is not only a moed, but also a miqra - a sacred assembly.  God's people are gathered together.  And guess what else is significant about Atonement?  It is the only day of the year when mankind has access to the Holy of Holies, which is why Yom Kippur is considered the holiest day in Judaism.

The Temple was a template of the heavenly realms and the Holy of Holies represented God's throne in Heaven.  A thick curtain separated the people from God and only on Yom Kippur could the high priest enter in to make an offering for the people (Lev. 16:2).  Jesus is the head of the body, the Church, and according to the book of Hebrews He is our High Priest who entered the heavenly places, but His entrance into Heaven was not restricted to Yom Kippur because He is God Himself.  Since we are a kingdom of priests (1 Pet. 2:9), yet not divine, perhaps Yom Kippur serves as the template for when we also will enter Heaven.  It's the only day Heaven is opened!

It has long been thought that Christ's visible second coming would occur on the Day of Atonement, but based on this additional evidence, perhaps the rapture will occur on that day, as well.  As the only day when Heaven is opened, it could be the day the Church enters Heaven and also the day Christ and the Church return from Heaven.  The Day of Atonement might then be a template and encapsulate the entire Tribulation period - the Day of the LORD.  Here is a summary of points in favor of a rapture on a Yom Kippur that also coincides with the Jubilee:

1. It's the only moed explicitly tied to the shophar and this shophar is heard "throughout all the land".  This might be the best candidate for the trumpet of God mentioned in 1 Thessalonians 4:16.

2. The trumpet announces liberty from bondage, rest from labor, and a return to land, property, and family - all images of what Believers inherit at the rapture.

3. It is the only day of the entire year when access was granted to the Holy of Holies, and perhaps then the only day of the year when Heaven is opened and the Church can enter in.

4. A Jubilee trumpet at the rapture would mark both the end of that particular Jubilee cycle and perhaps even the end of all Jubilee cycles.  Thus, in at least two different ways it would be the "last trumpet".  Genesis 6:3 says that mankind would persist for 120 years.  This is generally thought to be a reference to the time remaining before Noah's Flood, but it may also indicate the total number of Jubilee years from creation to the Millennial Kingdom - the length of mankind's rebellion.  120 years x 50 years = 6,000 years, which just happens to be right about where we are in history.

The obvious question presents itself: does this weekend's Yom Kippur also mark the Jubilee?  There is some evidence it does:

1. Biblical years run from roughly April to April and that timeframe in 1917-1918 and 1967-1968 marked the Balfour Declaration and the conquest of Jerusalem, respectively.  In the first instance the land of Israel was returned in a sense when the anti-Semitic Ottoman Empire was conquered by the British.  The British government announced that the Holy Land would eventually return to the Jews and Jews were allowed to move more freely to their ancestral homeland.  The very next year, in 1919, the Third Aliyah kicked off with tens of thousands of Jews returning.

In the second instance, Jerusalem was returned to its rightful owners when Israel conquered the city in addition to other portions of the Promised Land.

In 1867 the Jews were emancipated (released from bondage) in the Austro-Hungarian Empire - another event closely mirroring the biblical concept of Jubilee.  Interestingly, the Austro-Hungarian Empire existed for exactly one Jubilee (1867-1868 to 1917-1918).

Furthermore, if you go back to the same April to April range in 1517-1518 you'll see another Jubilee-type event: Christians were released from the spiritual bondage of the Roman Catholic Church.  The Protestant Reformation began on October 31, 1517.  The 500th anniversary of the Protestant Reformation occurs next month.

2. Israelis actually celebrated 2017 as the Jubilee back in May, which marked 50 years since the Six-Day War on the Jewish calendar and also 70 prophetic years since the rebirth of Israel.  This was the first time Jews collectively celebrated the Jubilee since before Christ.  That alone should get your attention.  You can read more about this Jubilee celebration here.  Israel seemed to have no qualms about what they were celebrating:


3. WatchForTheDay noticed that exactly 49 prophetic years transpired between the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem on April 1, 1969 to July 17, 2017, when the Jews temporarily recaptured the Temple Mount and resumed prayer.  The same amount of time transpired between June 7, 1967, when Jerusalem was recaptured, to September 23, 2015 - the Day of Atonement.  The incredible precision of these two separate counts provides at least supporting evidence that we are very close to the exact year of the Jubilee.  The former count might even be a possible parallel fulfillment of the separate 7 weeks of years in Daniel 9:25.

Might the rapture happen this weekend?  I don't know for sure, but we should be awake and watchful.  Yom Teruah ran from September 21st to 22nd (Tishrei 1).  The Great Sign of Revelation 12 occurred on September 23rd to 24th (Tishrei 3).  Yom Kippur is 10 days after Yom Teruah and 7 days after the Great Sign.  Consider the timing in light of the following verses: Gen. 7:4, 10, 8:10, Ex. 22:30, Ex. 24:16, Rev. 2:10.  Leviticus 12:1-5 has also been on our minds:

The Lord spoke to Moses, saying, "Speak to the people of Israel, saying, If a woman conceives and bears a male child, then she shall be unclean seven days.  As at the time of her menstruation, she shall be unclean.  And on the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.  Then she shall continue for thirty-three days in the blood of her purifying.  She shall not touch anything holy, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying are completed."

This passage is interesting for a number of reasons.  For starters, we see the image of a woman in labor just as we do in Isaiah 26:17-19, 66:7-9, Micah 5:3, and Revelation 12:1-2.  It's even a male child that she delivers.  Just as she remains unclean for 7 days after giving birth to the male child, so Israel remains unclean for 7 years after giving birth to the Church.

But there's more.  The Great Sign of a woman in labor occurred on Tishrei 3, 7 days before Yom Kippur.  The child is still in the flesh for 7 days before his circumcision.  Might circumcision be a symbol of the rapture when our fleshly nature is removed (1 Cor. 15:50-55; see also Jn. 3:3-7)?  Perhaps Yom Teruah marked the invisible reality that Christ's Church has finally finished its growth and gestation and the corporate baby was born, yet the corporate male child is still in its flesh for 7 days.  Additionally, 33 days after Yom Kippur is the 100th anniversary of the Balfour Declaration, just as 33 days after the Great American Eclipse was the Great Sign!

Yom Kippur also happens to be 40 days from the Great American Eclipse.  Were 40 days given to the world to repent just as in the days of Jonah?  Just thoughts and speculation.


Don't Forget Tabernacles


There is an important Scripture that we need to address.  This one simple verse holds immense importance and has caused a lot of confusion.  It's Psalm 81:3:

Blow the trumpet at the new moon, at the full moon, on our feast day.

Rabbinical and Karaite Jews are divided over this verse.  The word here for "full moon" might mean "concealed moon".  Jewish tradition favors "concealed moon", but most biblical commentaries and the Karaite Jews favor "full moon".  I won't get into that.  What is most important to this topic is the fact that the trumpet mentioned here is shophar and this is not Yom Kippur.  The question is what moed does the last phrase "on our feast day" point to?  Commentaries are divided between Passover and Tabernacles, but the Tabernacles view is slightly more popular.

This verse is not in the Torah, but it is in Scripture, so we have to treat it as such.  If the moed referenced here is Passover, then in regards to the moedim Passover is the first trumpet and the Yom Kippur Jubilee is the last trumpet.  If instead this verse speaks about Tabernacles, then you might be able to argue that Tabernacles is actually the last trumpet.

Tabernacles has always been one of the "big three" moed to watch in regards to the rapture, along with Yom Teruah and Pentecost.  Here is further study on why Tabernacles might fit.

Friends, we're getting closer than we could have possibly imagined.  Keep looking up and maranatha!

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104 comments :

  1. Thanks, Gary! You just shed light on a few things that have bothered me for years. Also, glad to see you weren't raptured on the 23rd. I was beginning to wonder ;-)

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    1. I thought I was only one who wondered were everyone was! : )

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    2. I find it interesting that the scoffers are scoffing and the unbelievers are trying to show us
      As ridiculous. They fail! I am thinking Peter had no idea as to the time he was addressing. I mean 2 thousand years later? AND his words are prophetically coming to pass. There was no reason, nothing Christ told them to think He would return then. It was the great awakening. Now the Thief in the night cometh and we who are scoffed at will see Him. The scoffers, the unbelieving, and sad to say some of the psuedo Believers will be shaken to the core and start with all diligence to try to find us and we will be GONE!

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  2. Thanks for the mention Gary. I love the Mel Gibson shot. One of my favorite movies. I'd also say there are only two mentions of 49 years or seven sevens. Daniel 9 and Leviticus 25.

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    1. In addition my two cents:
      Here you have a link to a document I made of jubilee years, counting with the presumption that 2017 is indeed a jubilee year and that some major events happened on jubilee years. I also added some interesting conjunctions of stars around some dates.
      https://1drv.ms/x/s!ApWcgomi89b_g4FTBU5SuENplZEwcQ
      What struck me, is the observation that the 33th jubilee year is around the flood of Noah. The 49th year would be around Gods remembrance of Israels slavery and subsequent the delivery/exodus out of Egypt and the 50th year is the entrance in Canaan. From thereon we’re in the 70th week. The recapture of Jerusalem in 1967 would be the 69th week. Reminds me of Daniels weeks..
      Looking around the 40th jubilee years: around the 40th the promise and the promised son Isaac came to Abraham, around the 80th the promised Messiah came and around the 120th, perhaps the promised bride of Christ? Also looking to Jerusalem and specific the temple mount makes a lot of interesting coincidences around jubilee years.
      To a rapture of the gentile bride before salvation ánd trouble of Jacob, I would call in remembrance Romans 11:25 : “For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.” It would be marvelous and very well possible if this will be taking place of the only day in the year the doors to the Mercy Seat will be open ánd the only day in 50 years the Shofar of God will be sounded! Are we on the verge of the great taking away of the bride ánd the awakening of Israel?

      Again, its my two cents and its only for educational purpose and on the presumption I stated earlier. In defense of it: Our Creator and Heavenly Father seems to like working things out on a very precise schedule.
      Lets keep our blessed hope! Our Lord will come; and I look forward for the fulfilling of Ps.45, together with you😊

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  3. Gary, this was amazing, thank you to all watchman!

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  4. The Unsealed crew are amazing! They really have a good grasp of the Bible as well as the Jewish religion.

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  5. Not a significant matter, but Mary is still hanging around and could conceivably still be here when the "child" is circumsized (as would be expected).

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  6. Gary said:

    "We continue to uncover a lot of pieces to the prophetic puzzle and it looks like we may have little time left to share it. Normally I like to move slow on research and test it out thoroughly, but because of the lateness of the hour I want to share with you some of the highlights being discussed in our fellowship (credit to Adam, Barry, Brad, Daniel, Greg, Jeff, Jim, Paul, and Scottie for different bits of insight)."

    So, are you now saying that it's the feast of Tabernacles we should have been waiting for all along? or is it Atonement? Is that what this untested research has led you to? Is this latest research any more reliable than the "research" that had Clarke and others convinced that the FoT was the time?

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    1. Chuck F. It is tied in with the sign that happened on FOT. We are all fallible men, your hope should be in Christ. If you doubt the info provided you should do your own research to validate.

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    2. To-bad for you Chuck F, but you have to think for yourself now...
      I personally am happy Gary is thinking out loud.

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    3. I think Gary and the other contributors make it clear that this is speculation. Great and exciting speculation at that.

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  7. Hi

    I will add to some of the discussion some thoughts I noted on Rev12dailys 24 Sept article, including an amazing consideration from Jazzy on the Jubilee year.

    Part 1: Circumcision
    Barry Scarborough and others have touched on Luke 2. I don’t want to replicate the discussion, but want to add to it from personal study. Apologies if this has been picked up by others, as I have not had time to read everyones personal study on it (and Numbers 8 as well).
    Some of the below may be ‘stretching’ scripture a little too much, and I don’t want to be seen to be doing so, but just trying to contribute to the discussion for the next or so days on the subject.
    Luke 2:21 – on the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus…’
    - Question: is there a name that we will receive only upon entrance into heaven. The answer is yes, we will be given (as the bride of Christ) a secret name. Rev 2:17 “to the one who is victorious…I will give that person a white stone, and on the stone will be engraved a new name”. Note that Jesus name was not officially given to him by the father (Joseph) until the 8th day.
    Luke 2: 22 – Barry Scarborough notes the implications of being ‘presented to the Lord’ in association with the 8th day circumcision. It is important to note the references to ‘circumcision’ in the OT in reference to Gods covenant relationship with Israel. Note that although only Israel was unique with regard to the covenant relationship, it is interesting to note that, should we be taken up on the 8th day post 23 Sept, it would again be God fully turning his attention back to Israel, a sign of God not forgetting the covenant relationship with Israel, and my goodness, what a sign to Israel (of the original circumcision covenant) it would be!

    In addition - Luke 2 notes "this child is appointed for the fall and rise of many in Israel...". The fall could include Israels rejection at Christs first coming, and their rise mid-trib post rapture (whether pre-trib or pre-wrath).

    The other curious thing about circumcision is that it is a removal of the ‘flesh’. In Colossians 2: 11 we read “and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ”. Again – could this also be a dual reference to being born again, and being “rev12 born again and circumcised” etc, particularly putting off this earthly body, and finally getting to wear our incorruptible one (I see that Gary has noted this above as well)!

    Luke 2: 22 – Jesus had to be presented to the Temple, his FIRST visit to the Temple of God. Note that the Church is the Temple of God, and while there is no physical temple in heaven per se, “the Lord God Almighty and the Lamp are its temple”. (Rev 21:22), so as we are snatched up to heaven, we make our first entrance into the heavenly Temple, which is the Father and the Lamb. This could also be at the end of the 7 years, rather than 7 days post Rev12 sign.
    Barry has already gone through Luke 2:34 “and to be a sign that will be spoken against”, so I wont repeat that here.

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    1. Excellent! Thank you @Jazzy! Yes, and the NAMING of Jesus reminds me of Isaiah 62:2 (read the whole chapter, the bride and her groom are in there!) and the promise to believers in Revelation 2:17 and 3:12 to receive a NEW NAME (from God).

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  8. Part 2: Jubilee

    Jazzy made an fascinating point on the Jubilee 'return of the field' side of things, where she noted Lev 27:24 "'In the year of jubilee the field shall return to the one from whom he bought it, to whom the possession of the land belongs." Jazzy then referenced 1 Corinthians 3:9 "For we are God's fellow workers; you are God's field, God's building." I thought this was incredibly interesting.

    Some more thoughts on the Lev 27 preceding verses (vs 21) "When the field is released in the Jubilee, it will become holy, like a field devoted to the LORD; it will become priestly property". Our great high priest will take possession of his Holy (set apart) people. While we have already been made holy in our spirit (through his holiness), our flesh is corrupt.

    1 Corinthians 3:23 and you "belong to Christ; and Christ belongs to God" - we became (and will fully become) his property.

    and sticking with the theme...Rev 14:3 "And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders; and no one could learn the song except the one hundred and forty-four thousand who had been purchased from the earth". The word 'purchased' can also mean redeemed (according to lexicon). Now come to Lev 25:52 "and if few years remain until the year of jubilee, he shall so calculate with him. In proportion to his years he is to refund the amount for his redemption." and we know that he is our ultimate kinsman redeemer. He has redeemed our spirit/souls, and he will redeem our earthly bodies as well (Millenial reign), even though we put off our 'earthly' bodies and put on incorruptible ones.

    Now we know that we have already been fully redeemed by the blood of the Lamb, and we are made clean. But if the body of Christ (which you note as the 'field') was to be corporately redeemed, then it would be in the year that we wouldn't (or couldn't) make payment ourselves...being a Jubilee year of course.

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    1. ...and WHO was it who BOUGHT THE FIELD? Yeah: Matthew 13:44!! (see verse 38 who the field is!) And compare to Jeremiah 32 he bought the field while it was still under oppression of the Chaldeans but God said it would be free one day. MARANATHA!

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  9. Made me think the final "manifestation" of the current spiritual reality we live in - is possibly on atonement! Specifically, we are currently seated in the heavenlys in Christ, we have access to the holiest of holies, beyond the veil of the flesh, by the blood of Jesus, and we have now received the atonement through our Lord Jesus Christ!

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  10. Being in good Company, like David, it is all way too wonderful for me. Still, I must say a deep thanks to our Lord for this thoughtful, authentic and rich post and the field of broad scattering it is pulled from. Oh, that it may be so :) Maranatha!

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  11. Dear Gary et al, really appreciate your energy, enthusiasm and tenacity. Been such a blessing! Maranatha!

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  12. Dear Gary et al, really appreciate your energy, enthusiasm and tenacity. Been such a blessing! Maranatha!

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  14. Excellent meat for some serious study.... thank you!!

    Incidentally, I think there's a typo above in bullet point #3. The article states:

    "The same amount of time transpired between June 7, 1967, when Jerusalem was recaptured, to September 23, 2015 - the Day of Atonement."

    Isn't the Rev. 12 sign on Sept. 23? And Day of Atonement on the 30th?

    Thank you so much for all this wonderful info! Maranatha!

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    1. I remember Yom Kippur that year as it was on my wife's birthday. Wednesday, September 23, 2015 was the Day of Atonement that year and ended that evening.

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    2. Thank you Richard... All I saw was September 23.... didn't even notice 2015..... smack my head lol

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  15. Gary,

    Thank you for the brain dump. I too am praying and asking questions as I feel so blessed to live in the age that saw the Great Sign.

    The current conjunctions of the moon and Saturn, Jupiter and Spica and the clothing of Virgo in the sun are marvels to behold. Not only they catch my attention but the retrograde locations of Uranus in Pisces and Neptune in Aquarius also have my attention.

    The Hebrew verb "נָבַע" (naba) comes to mind, meaning to flow, spring, bubble up. I share this in context of (Psalm 19:2) in which we are given that "the heavens declare the glory of God" and that they "pour out speech, and night to night reveals knowledge."

    One example:

    Take a look at the constellation Aquarius and the location of the planet Neptune. Now dig on the mythological roots of the names of each. Aquarius, being Ganymede who decided to *pour out* all of the wine, ambrosia, and water of the gods upon the Earth, causing inundating rains for days upon days, which created a massive flood that flooded the entire world.

    Neptune being the 8th planet in the solar system and named for the Greek god of fresh waters and sea. Thinking of the number eight, boys, as we all know, are to be circumcised on the 8th day. The number 8 symbolizes circumcision of the heart through Christ and the receiving of the Holy Spirit. Those in Christ are becoming a new creation, with Godly character being created by the power of God's Spirit.

    More interesting is possible parallels between the Jubilee Year (seven, sevens) and the 7 weeks (49-days) of the spring harvest. The next day, the 50th day, is Pentecost. This day is also the eighth day of the seventh week. I think this 8th and 50th day combination could picture the first resurrection when the saints will be raised from the dead and made immortal. After the 7-days of the Feast of Tabernacles there is an 8th day, called the Last Great Day.

    Forgive me for shooting from the hip, but as you say, time is short. I have also been looking at Uranus, the 7th planet, in Pisces and see some interesting things suggested there; namely an, "escape to the skies".

    More later when I have time to properly collect my thoughts and pray on this some more.

    Thank you for your continued encouragement and digging!


    Pastor Rich

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  16. Best article and comments I've read in a VERY long time. (And, there have been good ones).


    I've been aware of the Lev 23 feasts since the 1980s and never picked up on shofar vs. chatsotsrah. What a gem! There are some other gems in here, too. I've got to re-read and study!!!


    Yes, Atonement always seems like the day heave is opened. It's a "pattern of the heavenly things" and Moses was told to carefully follow that pattern making the temple. Also, it's the day the Azazel is let go outside the camp, which represents the world...perhaps the arche-type of Satan set loose on this earth to wreak havoc in the great trib. But, at the same time, The Bride is in the Holy of Holies...is that not a John 14 fit and more about being kept from the hour of trial, aka a rapture?

    Trumpets, to me, seemed like when the great tribulation would start. And, using much info including Ancient Israel's release from Egypt, believers will go through at least part of it. We are not appointed to wrath, but that does not mean we escape tribulation.

    However, I've never been clear on the timing/pacing of the seven trumpets blown. This article gives me some new food for thought to look into that.

    As for Tabernacles, I understand it as symbol of 7th millennium reign of Christ with His Bride over the earth. The last great day is the Great White Throne Judgement. Now, you want to buck traditional Christianity? :-)

    A second resurrection (Rev 20:6) and Eph 2:7 telling of "ages to come", i.e. those who did not actively refuse Christ in this life are not lost for eternity, rather will be resurrected after the millennium to experience what life is like with Christ running the world. Most certainly will accept. (Jn 6:44, are all persons called in this age?) What is a "better resurrection" (Heb 11:35)? Follow the theme of the first born throughout scripture, the spring AND fall harvest patterns, and more. "---ALL--- Israel shall be saved" means just that (sans willful rejection, but certainly salvation is not in the hands of men who did not get the gospel to other persons).

    ...we'll see, in a little over a thousand years!

    In the meantime, I am prayerfully thankful for this site and the info I have to chew on, pray over and study!!!

    THANKS SO MUCH!!! GODSPEED!!!

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  17. The article states that the silver trumpets (chatsotsrah) are not used to gather the people. But if you look at Numbers 10:2-3 you'll see that the WERE USED to call the people: "And when they shall blow with them, all the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation." Interesting the reference to the DOOR of the TABERNACLE. Kind of reminds me of Revelation 4.

    Also the argument is made that since the silver trumpets (chatsotsrah) are made by human hands they must not be the trump of God. However, the Ark of the Covenant was also made by human hands yet it's called the ARK of GOD in multiple places. Surely because it's made by human hands does not disqualify it.

    I think it's odd that the Septuagint DOES make a distinction between the shofar and the chatsotsrah but this distinction is not made in the New Testament. I think if the Holy Spirit wanted to use the word for shofar, he could have used that word in the greek that certainly did exist in the 1st century.

    Finally there is an interesting connection between the trumpets and birth. The Greek name for the silver trumpets that were made are σάλπιγξ salpigx (a feminine noun) which happen to be the same Greek name for the fallopian tubes. I find it interesting that there are two fallopian tubes just like there are two silver trumpets. Additionally, if you take a look at a cross section of the uterus it sure looks like the bell of a trumpet.

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    1. Weren't the silver trumpets blown to call the Israelites into Jerusalem during the month of Elul? Weren't they to enter the city seven days to sanctify before the Feast began? And wasn't there another period of 3,5 days until the door to the temple was SHUT? I read this from "Systematic Eschatology" by Brad Hurst describing the regular ancient customs at FoT.

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    2. Edtromba, you make some interesting points. I hadn't noticed that section of Numbers 10.

      I added some more information after further study. The clincher for me is Zechariah 9:14, and to a lesser extent Psalm 47:5. The former pretty categorically associates the trumpet of God with the shophar.

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    3. Gary, do you make a distinction between a human blowing a shofar and God blowing a shofar? Any thoughts on whether the last trump is natural or supernatural trump?

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  18. Jesse Thompson said:

    "We are all fallible men"

    You got THAT right!

    "your hope should be in Christ."

    Uh, yeah, I know. My hope IS in Christ, which is why I'm following His command to be watchful at ALL times, not just on feast days.

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    1. As are we. No one is arguing it has to be a moed. I even made that point in this article - not to put God in a box. Christ's ascension was not on a moed, after all.

      I'm longing for the LORD all year long.

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  19. Gary, looking forward to your commentary on Oct 1, citing more research and providing another "suggestion" for another, later day. And I take hear that that commentary will be followed by another one on Oct 8...and Oct 15...and Oct 22...etc.

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    1. I've been watching expectantly for Christ for about 16 years, so I'll keep going as long as I'm in this body.

      Matt. 24:48-51, Heb. 10:25, 1 Thess. 5:3-4, Rev. 3:3.

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  20. Excellent article Gary, and the one by Lisa Taylor you referred to at the end as well. Since 2011, having had more signs in the heavens, how much closer we are to seeing His face and hearing His voice. How cool it is to read all these knowing Proverbs says it is the glory of God to conceal a matter, and the glory of Kings to search it out! How amazing and unfathomable is our God! Maranatha! Blessings in Christ and a big thank you for all the research. I look forward to diving more into all the Scriptures you presented. Charissa

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  21. Want to ask a question: About the Great Sign. Jupiter having been in the womb area of Virgo for 9 months (since November 2016), represents the birth of the male-child and the King planet. It was birthed from the womb area of Virgo on September 9th, 2017... how does that impact the idea of the woman being unclean for 7 days... leading to Yom Kippur? It seems that when you are looking at Yom Kippur as a possible date for the Rapture - that maybe you are looking at the Great Sign as having been fulfilled on the 23rd/24th including what took place with Jupiter on the 9th of Sept. Might that affect the 7 day period calculation? Cuz Jupiter was out of the womb area for 14 days from the 9th to the 23rd (7 x 2)... Just a question... would love to hear your thoughts.

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    1. I'm not sure about that. I tend to think the 9/9 and 9/23 dates are a bit speculative. There are no lines in space. 9/9 may not have been the birth... perhaps that was just when the baby lowered or entered the birthing canal.

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      I'm not sure about that. I tend to think the 9/9 and 9/23 dates are a bit speculative. There are no lines in space. 9/9 may not have been the birth... perhaps that was just when the baby lowered or entered the birthing canal.

      It's true there are no actual lines in space, but the argument for the woman's pregnancy has been based on Jupiter's retrograde motion for about nine and a half months within the general area of Virgo's womb.
      But around September 9th or tenth this retrograde motion came to an end and Jupitebegan to travel down and away from the womb area. So I suppose that that could be seen as the beginning of the birth--but how long would that take?

      Well, one of the affirmative points concerning the sign was that Virgo's pregnancy of about nine and a half months mirrored a normal human pregnancy--so using the same reasoning we should expect the delivery to do the same, ie it would take between a few hours and a few days at the most.

      Im other words Jupiter was delivered by September 16th or 17th at the very most, and the 7 day period of being unclean ended on September 23rd, or thereabouts, as Rose suggested in her post.

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  22. Gary - thank you for a very inspiring and insightful article and for all of your prayerful study and sharing of your findings. As I have posted elsewhere, I firmly believe the great sign of Rev 12 occurred on 9/23 in advance of the great event we are all anticipating - the Rapture. Thank you for keeping me on my toes, watching with great expectation that the day we long for is closer than ever. I'm not discouraged in the least - I'm more excited than ever! I want to be found watching for Jesus and sharing the Good News up to the very moment He calls me home. God bless you for encouraging believers like me to remain faithful, trusting in God's word, and holding fast to our Blessed Hope. Maranatha to all of you!!

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    1. Amen and thank you sister! Maranatha!

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  23. Really good (and desperately needed!) article. Good work, Gary.

    - Greg L.

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    1. I enjoyed reading your consideration of a different 'hag'/festival Greg. All these articles, regardless of opposing or conflicting opinions, force us to 'rightly divide the word'. http://www.alittlestrength.com/articles/2017/1709-hour-of-prayer.htm#cont

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    2. Thank you Greg! Brad told me last night about your article - amazing that we independently arrived at similar conclusions.

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  24. Gary and @all: you are such a blessing to the Body of Christ, it is so much inspiring to read your article/s and through the comments too as everyone still contributes even so much more that makes Daniel 12:4 such a vivid experience these last days!

    Gary please allow another thought on the issue of DELAY in the bible: yesterday, there was a comment on some recent Adam Finks video that quoted from Habakkuk 2:3 and made me again ponder why the issue of DELAY is so much stressed in scriptures (Psalm 40:17; 90:13 / Daniel 9:19 / Ezechiel 12:25+28 twice in one chapter!) and especially in the NT (Matthew 24:48 / Luke 12:45 / 1 Timothy 3:15 / Hebrews 10:37 / 2 Peter 3:9). Now we could say: well, there is some delay of His coming even since the apostles waited 2,000 years ago - but there is more to that. We do now, in this very month and week, possibly see these scriptures FULFILLED like perhaps never before in all church history. MARANATHA! Blessings to all of you!

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    1. Eric, this is very compelling and logic! Personally, I'm convinced as well that the 7 appointed times have to be fulfilled IN ORDER but it is Gods plan how and when (which year) to do it or if there might even be multiple fulfillments e.g. for the Jews and for the church - such as Pentecost for example according to Joel 2:28-29 isn't fulfilled yet for Israel but to the church (Acts 2:17-18). Likewise, "rapture scripture" (what we now like to interpret as such) as OT Isaiah 26:20 will again be fulfilled for the tribulation remnant of Israel when the 'woman flies into the wilderness' and will be supernaturally protected by God. Many of these scriptures have double meaning and fulfillment.

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    3. Annabel, I agree and am pleased to see that you are comfy with this 'Big Picture' needle thread here, in light of your passionate defense of the details throughout. As I said some time ago, we are finding that Scripture is like one of those pictures which reveals another, hidden picture when you stare at it long enough and let your eyes relax their focus. Reading the Scriptures over and over and immersing oneself in the Word, and leveraging the insights of others, are the tools the Lord directs us to use to allow the larger patterns, hidden and threaded throughout, to become clear in their time and it sure looks like just such a picture is in this post, agreed. Maranatha!

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  26. Would you be interested to hear an alternate viewpoint? Or would it be better to wait until after 9/30 passes? I don't wish to be negative, but it's easy to show how this is not correct. Let me know if I should just go my way and leave you all in peace. Thanks :)

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    1. Always interested in other point of views :)

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    2. I would like to know, Heather. If you don't want to post it here, please feel free to email me at gduewer@charter . net

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    3. Heather, all of us here love to hear all positions as it helps us rightly divide! Please share! Nobody here is in complete unison when it comes to their eschatology. Many come here to weigh out what makes sense with an open mind. :)

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    4. Okay, well I don't want to spend a whole bunch of time typing stuff out if it's going to fall on deaf ears. The general problem with the majority of these posts is they are confusing scripture intended for Israel and applying it to the church, and they are not recognizing the fulfillment of the law. Moreover, they are disregarding the specific nature of the OT passages they are using and contorting them to fit where they were never intended to fit.

      I fully realize none of us know everything, but it's a lot easier to learn things when you're not trying to fit them into a preconceived mold.

      First and foremost re: the jubilee, it was fulfilled when Israel came into her land. That was when the sabbatical cycles began. If you read Joshua 4, that was Nisan 10. Just because the jubilee was to be declared on Tishri 10 had nothing to do with when the sabbatical cycles started. I've got lots of charts about all of this so one can see how the jubilee bisects years 49 and 50 of a jubilee cycle, having been declared "in the 50th year".

      Considering Daniel's 70th Week is a shabua, or one period of 7, also known as a sabbatical cycle, and since Leviticus 25 tells very clearly when they were supposed to start, this love of the fall is completely off-base. It appears the only reason people are so hungry for the fall is because of an erroneous idea that parts of the law are still outstanding.

      Hebrews 7 tells us a change in the priesthood necessitated a change in the law. It is impossible, very, very impossible, for a Levitical law which is facilitated by a Levitical priesthood to have any outstanding fulfillments left of it when the Levitical priesthood no longer exists, has not existed since Christ, and will never exist again.

      It. is. finished.

      Jesus's work to fulfill the law is finished.

      Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

      Hebrews 10:8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; 9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

      Paul spent the entire book of Hebrews trying to explain these exact things to the Jews, and here people are trying to undo all Paul did. Just because people might not know HOW each of the feasts has already been fulfilled does not negate the fact that they have been. All in His first coming.

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    5. Hi Heather, we always welcome other opinions! (: We're all trying to learn as best we can and God gives each of us a piece.

      I do agree about the importance of rightly dividing Scripture, especially in regards to faith and works, and Israel and the Church. That said, I think your view is a bit of an oversimplification. For starters, let's look at Colossians 2:16-17:

      "Let no one, then, judge you in eating or in drinking, or in respect of a feast, or of a new moon, or of sabbaths, which are a shadow of the coming things, and the body is of the Christ."

      Aspects of the law are shadows of things yet to come. Colossians was written after the crucifixion. After the resurrection. Even after Pentecost.

      It's true that Christ has completely satisfied the requirements of the law for us *personally* (Rom. 8:3-4), but the law is full of types and shadows that will continue to find their fulfillment in history.

      Honestly, I'm not aware of any premillennialist scholars who believe the law-as-template has been done away with. E.g., the book of Revelation is chock full of Torah imagery as are many of the Epistles (especially Hebrews).

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    6. Colossians 2:16-17 matches Hebrews 10:1. When you read it in the larger context presented to the Jews, it becomes very clear all the holy days must be fulfilled already, because they are all by definition, sacrifices or offerings or have sacrifices or offerings attached to them. Hebrews 10 is very explicit about the "offering" of the body of Christ being the final "sacrifice" for sin. The use of the words offering and sacrifice are specifically relates to what Colossians 2:16-17 mentions, each of which was a sacrifice or offering. Check out Numbers 28 and you'll see the meat offering, drink offering, holy day offerings (Lev 23), new moon offerings, Sabbath offerings. Literally, there is no way this can be mistaken. All sacrifices and offerings related to the law ceased upon the offering of the body of Christ. That means the feasts/holy days, too.

      I didn't say the law-as-template had been done away with. I said the Old Covenant whereupon sacrifices and offerings were required were fulfilled by Christ during His first coming to make way for a new law which is predicated upon the finished work of Christ.

      Just like the law is one entity with 613 parts, the feasts are seven entities with one singular purpose - to point toward the body of Christ. If you do a bit of digging, you'll see the "body though has prepared for me", also in Hebrews 10, related to the feast of Tabernacles and Jesus's first coming.

      Agree or disagree, it's all there.

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    7. It might just be easier to read Colossians 2:14 first... that pretty much tells you the same thing.

      Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

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    8. So I've probably taken up enough wall space. I'd be happy to share with you what I've already written so you can share it with your people. I have many hundreds of pages written about these topics.

      I'd say I'm not oversimplifying it. To me, you're overcomplicating it. :) It's really all about perception on that one. This is simple. The timeline is scattered throughout the OT major and minor prophets. Sometimes you can't try to rationalize the next closest date. Sometimes you just have to be patient. ;)

      Email me if you want more info. I've got lots.

      hlrivard@gmail.com

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    9. Hi Heather - definitely agree with you that the law has been completed in Christ, and we are no longer under the Mosaic law. However - not having to observe something doesn't mean not recognising its significance as a SIGN. Genesis 1: 14 - "Then God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years;". So the lights in the heavens (sun moon stars etc) were given to indicate seasons. The festivals fell as an appointment of a season. This is why Christ fulfilled all the spring feasts, and it is interesting to note that it was POST resurrection (after the law was 'nailed' to the cross) that one of the feasts - Pentecost - was still used by Father God through Christ to bring his spirit to his kids.

      Finally - While the law per se was not kept any longer by Paul (in fact he was the one who railed against it the most), Paul was an observer of the feasts after his conversion. Acts 20:16 - “For Paul had decided to sail past Ephesus so that he would not have to spend time in Asia; for he was hurrying to be in Jerusalem, if possible, on the day of Pentecost." and in 1 Corinthians 16:8 he noted his wanting to stay in Jerusalem until Pentecost. Interesting that this specific day had a lot of significance to Paul. Acts 18:20-21 notes Paul keeping one of the feasts, as does Acts 27:9.

      Anyway - we could discuss this until we are blue in the face. Interesting to see that the feasts seemed to be something that the early believers continued to observe.

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    10. I'm pretty sure Paul understood Pentecost had been fulfilled, even if he chose to observe it. Let's not blur the line between celebrating a feast and recognizing it's already been fulfilled.

      Ezekiel 45 states there will be three feasts celebrated in the millennium. That doesn't mean they have not already been fulfilled legally. There's a huge difference between the legality of the feasts in the redemptive process vs. celebrating the events which they correspond(ed) to.

      Pentecost was an offering, so was firstfruits. They were both wave offerings. The body of Jesus Christ was the final "offering" for sin. You've got to look at the details. The sacrificial system which included offerings was rendered void and obsolete upon the New Covenant being dedicated with Jesus's blood. And clearly both firstfruits and Pentecost were part of prophecy since Jesus spoke of both His resurrection on the third day and the sending of the Comforter. You'd have a case for outstanding legal fulfillments if neither were part of prophecy given outside the law. But they were so the point is moot.

      I'm not sure why you included Genesis 1:14, but I'll let that one go.

      The gospel of Jesus Christ is simple. So are the timelines that led to His first coming. So are the timelines that lead to His second coming. Since all the timelines were in the OT, you have to consider that the rapture and the church were both mysteries before being revealed in the NT - both after the gospel of the kingdom changed to the gospel of the dispensation of grace. If you're truly interested in learning the timing of the second coming, and alternatively of the rapture since we know it will be seven years prior to that, then you've got to understand the difference between law and prophecy, and you've got to understand where the years began and ended.

      Are you only willing to accept possible and/or probable dates if they align with preconceived notions? Or do you just want to know what the timing is?

      Yep, the law is useful in determining some of that. But that doesn't mean it isn't finished.

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    11. Ryan,

      Duuuuude, way to take stuff out of context re: the feasts. I just had a chance to look them all up.

      Acts 20:28 you showed where Paul hasted to Jerusalem for Pentecost. You failed to mention why.

      Pentecost was one of three pilgrimage festivals. All males of age were required to attend. Why did Paul want to go? To evangelize as many people as possible, hence Acts 20:19 saying he lay in wait for the Jews.

      19 Serving the Lord with all humility of mind, and with many tears, and temptations, which befell me by the lying in wait of the Jews: 20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publicly, and from house to house, 21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

      Same thing for Acts 18. Here's a commentary from John Gill.

      "the why he must by all means keep it, was not because it was obligatory upon him; nor did he always observe it, as appears from his long stay at Corinth, and other places; and besides, as a Christian, he had nothing to do with it; but either because of his vow, Acts 18:18 or because he knew he should have an opportunity of preaching the Gospel to great numbers;"

      Acts 27:9 refers to the day of atonement and has no bearing on Paul celebrating it, only noting it for us being able to gauge the time of year with regard to the poor weather.

      I Cor 16:8 is the same re: Pentecost. Verse 9 explains why Paul tarried - a great and effectual door was opened unto him. That, too, regards efficacy in preaching the gospel due to the number of people present.

      Paul didn't celebrate the feasts. Paul made use of the feasts to preach the gospel to the greatest number of people possible. There's a HUGE difference.

      Having said that, I'm going to jet. If anyone wants to continue conversations further, you've got my email. Otherwise, best of luck to each of you in your research.

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    12. Hi Heather

      Not sure about taking things out of context. Paul explained to gov Felix in Acts 24:11 that he went to Jerusalem to worship. "When the governor motioned for him to speak, Paul replied: ... 11You can easily verify that no more than twelve days ago I went up to Jerusalem to worship. 12My accusers did not find me arguing with anyone at the temple, or stirring up a crowd in the synagogues or anywhere else in the city."

      So he made it clear that he was there to worship, nothing about taking the opportunity to evangelise,

      And in verse 17 "After an absence of several years, I came to Jerusalem to bring my people gifts for the poor and to present offerings. 18I was ceremonially clean when they found me in the temple courts doing this. There was no crowd with me, nor was I involved in any disturbance"

      So Paul 'presented offerings' and was 'ceremonially clean'. Note that I did not say that Paul HAD to observe the festivals, but looking at the evidence, he chose to.

      Coming back to Acts 20:16 - looking at the lexicon, it notes his need to be in Jerusalem for the actual day of Pentecost. If he was evangelising, he could have aimed to be there either before or after, as there would have been many crowds well before pentecost and immediately after. He was in fact, adamant about being there on the actual day.

      Anyway - we can hopefully at least agree on one thing: Colossians 2 "16Let no one, then, judge you in eating or in drinking, or in respect of a feast, or of a new moon, or of sabbaths, 17which are a shadow of the coming things, and the body [is] of the Christ;"

      Ryan

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    13. Heather, your argument that Paul returned to Jerusalem at Pentecost just to reach great numbers of Jews is easily disproved by Romans 15:18-21 (esp. verse 20). Pauls whole ministry was preaching where he had NOT preached before and not return to a place where the gospel already had been preached.

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  27. Stop connecting the Rapture with the Jewish Feasts. You are setting yourselves up for a failure again!! Read carefully 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3. Apostle Paul clearly states that the Rapture (our gathering to Him) won’t happen unless the man of sin is revealed first! The apostasy in this case is him (man of sin) breaking the peace covenant with Israel. The same thing Paul said in 1 Thessalonians 5:1-3. The Day of the Lord and our gathering unto Him comes as a thief in the night when they (Jews) say "Peace and safety!".
    All those Jewish Feats is the shadow and the part of the Law and the Law blinds. (2 Cor 3:15) Trust the Lord and not your own understanding. Peace!

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    1. Paul, I share your skepticism of tying the Rapture to the Levitical Fall feasts, but there's something about 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 that you're missing:
      What Paul the Apostle said specifically "won’t happen unless the man of sin is revealed first" is not the Rapture, but the "day of the Lord". That "day of the Lord" is one of the things for which the Rapture clears the way.

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    2. Again, read 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 carefully! In the first verse it says "Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him". What is "our gathering to Him" means? Isn't it what we call the Rapture?
      Paul clearly states our gathering to Him won't happen unless the man of sin is revealed. Plain and simple!
      Many have a hard time with this because they try to fit what Bible says to their Rapture views. Just forget what you have leaned about the Rapture and come to the Lord with an open heart. The knowledge puffs up, but love edifies :-)

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    3. Hi Paul. A very good question, and one that does need an article on this site pondering all the different perspectives of this specific verse.

      Firstly – the word ‘unless’ in vs2 can mean ‘if’. Looking at the structure of the greek, some translators have translated this to mean ‘until’, others ‘unless’, and others with a more accurate translation of ‘if’. This is generally where we get a little stuck with our perspectives.

      Other areas that are open for consideration/interpretation within this verse considers the ‘day of the Lord’. Some consider scripture to point to the day of the Lord being the entire 70th week of Daniel, others consider it to be the time of Judgment where the world sees the ‘wrath of the Lamb’. Consider Zephaniah 1:14-16: “The great day of the Lord is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the Lord: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. That day is a day of wrath”. While we know we are not appointed unto wrath, again, we differ in our interpretation as to what part of the tribulation is considered the wrath of the Lamb. I am pre-wrath/intra-seal due to my interpretation of Revelation 6:17. Others however consider all 7 years to be the wrath of the lamb.

      Finally – many pre-tribs believers consider the revealing of the AC to be at the exact same time as the rapture (meeting both the unless/until interpretation), due to 1 Thess 2:7-8 – where the ‘restrainer’ is taken out of the way, revealing the AC (where reveal apokaluphthēsetai in vs 8 is the same in Strongs to that noted in vs 2 apokaluphthē). If the 30th comes and goes without any rapture, it will be useful for us to consider these scriptures further.
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  28. I hope as much as anyone that the harpazo happens this Saturday, but in my opinion it will happen in seven years. Here's why:
    - Matthew 24/Mark 13/Luke 21 correspond to Revelation 6, 7/Beginning of Sorrows/opening the seven-sealed Scroll. When Matthew/Mark/Luke are compared to Rev 6, 7 the similarities are too great to be coincidental.
    - The above Scriptures are not describing the Wrath of God, which comes at the opening of the seventh seal, Revelation 8:1.
    - The Church is "not appointed to wrath", 1Thessalonians 5:9. Therefore it is possible that the Church might still be on Earth for the opening of the first six seals.
    - Jesus said "you shall be hated of all nations for MY NAME'S SAKE", Matthew 24:9. Clearly he was referring to Christians here, who bear the NAME of Christ.
    - The disciples asked, "What will be the sign of your coming and of THE END OF THE AGE?" Therefore when Jesus says, "The end is not yet" Matthew 24:6 and "Then shall the end come" Matthew 24:14, he is talking about the end of the age, this age, the Church Age. Therefore the Church must be here for the things Jesus described BEFORE the end comes, which also correspond to the first six seals.
    - At present, the Church represents God to the world. If the Church is removed, who will represent God to the world? The answer is the 144,000 sealed Jews. When the sixth seal is opened, the 144,000 are sealed, THEN the Gentile believers appear in Heaven, and THEN the Wrath of God comes at the opening of the seventh seal.
    - So why seven years from now? My personal opinion is that the recent eclipse and the Great Revelation 12 Sign proclaimed the Beginning of Sorrows, which must take place before the Rapture. Again, in my opinion, the second eclipse, seven years from now, probably marks the end of the Beginning of Sorrows. I believe we will quickly see the effects of the white, red, black and pale horses, then the great persecution of the Church - all within the next seven years.

    Gary, in Matthew 24:30 Jesus says, "then shall appear the sign if the Son of Man in heaven..." What astronomical sign might that be? Can it be found in Stellarium?
    It is then, as Jesus descends, that "a great trumpet" sounds and the elect is gathered together from one end of heaven to another (Matthew 24:31). But apparently the elect must first go through the Beginning of Sorrows which Jesus described previous to this verse.

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    1. Robert, if all the believers are raptured at the end of the tribulation, and all the others who took the Mark are destroyed, who would be around to populate the Earth for the millennium?

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    2. Maranatha, I don't think we're raptured at the end of the trib, I think we're raptured after the 6th seal is opened, then we return with Christ as part of the armies of Heaven, Revelation 19:11-14.

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    3. Maranatha - While I don't hold to a post-trib perspective, the Millennial reign re-population is another with various interpretations. Some do suggest that there may be those who did not take the mark nor worship the image, but also do not become tribulation saints. These likely won't form part of the armies of the kings of the earth when they come to Armageddon to fight our Lord, and thus may not be killed. While sounding far-fetched that someone might rail against the AC as well as Christ on earth during the tribulation, don't forget that in the millennial reign, the minimum age people will live to is 100, but those who don't commit their lives to Christ will die at the age of 100 (will be accursed).

      Coming back to the pre vs mid vs post-trib beliefs, there are scriptures that seem to support and refute all perspectives. I was reading again Rev 19, and was interested to note that after the judgment of the great Harlot in vs 2, in vs 7 is the arrival of the marriage of the lamb "“Let us rejoice and be glad and give the glory to Him, for the marriage of the Lamb has come and His bride has made herself ready." 'Has come' means 'to come, go' or arrived.

      Reading previously is Rev 16, after John rights about the gathering together of the armies of the Kings of the world for the war of the GREAT DAY OF THE LORD, he slips in vs 15 "Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one who stays awake and keeps his garments, lest he walk about naked". Why on earth would Jesus 'slip' that verse in the middle of a discussion on Armageddon activities, unless he was trying to inform us of something. So we have 'evidence' of Christ coming before tribulation, before the wrath of the Lamb (intra-seal), and before (or at the same time as) the final war of the day of the Lord.

      This is why Revelation is so exciting yet so frustrating at the same time, and why we are called to watch, and always watching. I will continue to watch for this Feast of Atonement (starting now in NZ) and will pray for the Lords return, but if that doesnt happen, I hope we will be able to come back and openly discuss these things and prepare for what will soon come to pass.

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  29. Perhaps it has always been a 40-day process or period of repentance (from 8/21)until...

    This 'extra time' gives us more time to keep on digging and connecting-the-dots. More time tell others about God's love through His son Jesus Christ. More time to warn others about the soon coming judgment (hello, have you seen the many signs and warning signals?). The Rev 12 Sign definitely is/was a marker of "things" to come.

    For further study/ listening:

    1] "Yom Kippur Ends the Jubilee & 5777 with LAST TRUMP" by Adrian Lindauer
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MorsNnr7zkQ

    2] "When the Day of Atonement and the Jubilee Collide" by Brenda
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apy6OPQIZWU

    3] "Yom Kippur and the Year of Jubilee" by Israeli News Live
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_K8weG0ayM

    4] "The Feast of Yom Kippur - Atonement for Israel in the Endtimes" by Mark Biltz
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_K8weG0ayM

    5] "Yom Kippur/Day of Atonement, 5778/2017" by PaulthePoke
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6H0OFh3xi8

    6] "The 33+7 (40 Day) Connection Between Eclipse and Atonement 2017" by Heavenly Sign
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umi3IKg2IGc

    7] "Solar Eclipse & September 23 2017 Connected For Atonement" by Paul Begley
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIuQ6CM8bUg

    Peace to all, keep seeking and looking to Him, the one who is soon to return for His Body (the Church).

    "One thing I ask from the Lord, this only do I seek: that I may dwell in the house of the Lord all the days of my life, to gaze on the beauty of the Lord and to seek him in his temple. For in the day of trouble he will keep me safe in his dwelling;
    he will hide me in the shelter of his sacred tent and set me high upon a rock" (Psalm 27:4-5).

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  30. Quick points regarding (maybe confirming) the Jubilee Year (being 2017):

    > Jerusalem was LIBERATED from the Ottoman Empire in 1917;

    > East Jerusalem was re-captured or LIBERATED in 1967 after the Six Day War;

    > Control of the entire Temple Mount was taken back or LIBERATED from Jordanian control in July of 2017...

    > Is the nation of Israel going to be LIBERATED or at least see the beginnings of total LIBERATION in 2017?

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    1. I thought the next step was the LIBERATION of the temple area for building the temple.

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  31. Here is some really GOOD information on youtube done in 2014 about a Jubilee rapture. Explains the differences between rapture and second coming too which many people are getting confused! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGz3S2u0_2w

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  32. Love the article Gary. Thank you for chiming in.

    I was watching a video today that might contain another piece of this puzzle. The video is by Bible Prophecy Girl (Link Below), and she made a strong point about the Jubilee through an emphasis on two scriptures:

    Leviticus 27:24
    In the Year of Jubilee the FIELD will revert to the person from whom it was bought, the one whose land it was.

    1 Corinthians 3:9
    For we are co-workers in God’s service; you are God’s FIELD, God’s building.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As8UlQ9xSUc

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  34. How do you all know the Rapture didn't already happen? Mighty presumptuous to assume that because you are still here, that others weren't Raptured.

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    1. Am happy to be presumptuous in this circumstance.

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  35. Oh me,oh my, my brain can't take it all in.

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  36. Leviticus says the jubilee trumpet is blown after 49 years to consecrate the 50th which would have been the feast of atonement 2016. Not 2017. 5777 was the jubilee year im not understanding why you would blow the jubilee trumpet at the end of the jubilee year and not at the start as said by leviticus 25:8-9

    I havnt had anyone explain why im wrong and im desperately seeking for an answer

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    1. I believe it is because the jubilee year follows the biblical/spiritual year cycle of Nissan to Nissan, not the civil year of Tishri to Tishri. Therefore it could be fulfilled in 2017.

      Karen M.

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    2. thanks karen but even if its nissan to nissan

      wouldnt the jubilee trumpet still have been blown in 2016 still?

      nissan 1967 - nissan 2016 = 49 years

      and then the jubilee trumpet would have been blown on the 2016 feast of atonement because it says clearly after 49 years you blow it on the 10th of the 7th month which would have been 2016 feast of atonement. to blow it now would be to blow it after the jubilee is already done

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    3. Hi Tom,
      In Genesis 12:2 God set a new beginning to the year, the "1st" month. Nowhere in scripture does God change this back. In Leviticus 25 we see God setup the Sabatical year and the year of Jubilee. In these verses God never states that these particular years should be started any differently then what he commanded in Genesis 12:2. As a matter of fact in Lev 25:9 God says that on the 10th day of the 7th month "day of atonement" we should sound the trumpet and celebrate, but does not say start a new year.
      The way I can try to explain it is like this... when I was a kid back in 1976 we celebrated the Bicentennial year. July 4th was not the beginning of that celebration. There were huge parties and lots of fanfare on the 4th, but th entire year was celebrated as the Bicentennial (starting Jan 1).

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  37. Unsealed and others have discussed the coming great deception|delusion, but since we are close, very close to this time, here is a good (video) reminder:

    "Ultimate End Time Deception Is Coming Soon And It Will Be Huge"

    From Think About It: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNET-uMauEw

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  38. Thanks Gary. As always, you do a great job. Now you have me wondering about 1Thes 4:16. Maybe it's like this - For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout (which was last week on Yom Teruah), with the voice of the archangel (that's Michael getting ready for the heavenly battle with the dragon from Rev 12) and with the trumpet of God (shophar on the Jubilee Atonement this week). Hmmm...

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  39. Gary said;

    "As are we. No one is arguing it has to be a moed. I even made that point in this article - not to put God in a box. Christ's ascension was not on a moed, after all."

    Well, if you truly are watching *every* day, why do you attempt to discredit the idea of Rapture imminence, as you did here:

    "My honest opinion is that the doctrine of imminency is an attempt to put God in a box just as much as those who set exact dates."

    The absurdity of that statement should be obvious.

    The doctrine of imminence--that the Rapture can take place at any minute, independent of any signs--leaves God "free" to catch up His Church regardless of the prophetic timetable, not to mention our perception of it. It is the very *antithesis* of putting God in a box. The date-setters and feast day-setters (and their "date-approximator" brethren) are the ones who put God in their boxes.

    Your rejection of the biblical doctrine of imminence is a major red flag. You *cannot* have it both ways. If you reject imminence, you are in effect saying that there are some days between now and then that the Rapture can't or isn't likely to happen. That is *not* watching EVERY day.




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  40. Gary,
    I want to share what the Lord told me 2/13/16 God has placed my home on a beautiful landscape with lush grass, trees and flowers. He has taken the Mortgage bank and detached it from my home and moved it out of sight of my home, past the wall and Gate.(spiritual wall) This is now a blessed house the Mortgage bank cannot see it or touch it. It is safe in all storms, it's pipes, electrical, and the whole house is safe from harm or trouble. In the day my Lord Jesus calls me home, the Gate will open and the Mortgage bank will be able to see the house again.
    As time went on I could understand this better, This sounds like the garden! My front lawn has been full of grubs and just dirt no grass, but this year it's green and my son has been planting (not normal behavior for him) I don't have a wall or gate or even a fence, but I took it as a hedge of protection and the gate is Jesus! I haven't had any power failures when others around me did, my plumbing is old and only God is keeping it together. I am so blessed. The house went into foreclosure and they set the auction date for Oct. 3rd. So I was excited to see the Sign thinking I'm leaving here, bank you can have all this world just give me Jesus! Now the 29th I'm still believing that the day the Lord calls me home the gate will open! I had checked off Sept 29 and Oct. 4-5 on a Jewish calendar before I heard about the Revelation 12 sign so I'm convinced especially with all the information you give us and I follow Scottie Clarke too. I'm so excited but sadly my son is a scoffer, but I pray for him. And in case he has to see to believe I'm leaving detailed left behind letters for him.
    God bless you!
    Liz

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    1. Dear sister wow this is trial indeed you're going through... I pray for you + family that Jesus keeps you safe and strong in faith. Matthew 6:33 and 1 Timothy 6:8 ever were my top 5 verses when there was existential trial (loss of workplace, money, health etc). Stay strong, look up, God will never forsake those who are His and He will ever provide a way out 1 Corinthians 10:13! Rejoice that you've been accounted worthy to be tested in faith right now, much love & MARANATHA! :)

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    2. Annabel, Thank you, I was worried and distracted because of the auction date so much I was having trouble and when your down the enemy attacks more. But praying quoting scripture that I've been standing on, Jesus answered me, that I was troubled with too many things (like Martha) and I needed to just trust him and rest at His feet (like Mary). His presence was so big as I've never before experienced, I could almost see his face, he was there with me, and all my fear and worries melted away. I asked him recently to shine a light in all the dark corners so I can see any hidden or unrepented sins and I've been seeing things I hadn't realized were there. Praise Jesus! Thank you for your kindness and prayers, I greatly appreciate it.
      God bless you!
      ♥much love♥ :)

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  41. So why is it that in the end the should under the alter crying out to God bring down judgement. I mean it seems to me if all the so called saints are evacuated to heaven there won't be any left to be persecuted and murdered for their souls to end up under the alter.
    Some of the saints are definitely not raptures. Some live right to the end and unto them death doest not come. The rapture as it is conjectured here could quite easily turn out to be the rupture. I agree it does say that the saints will be caught up into the clouds. But it also says there will be persecution, war, death, and saints on earth right through until His coming.

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  42. Gary, I have been studying this a lot and your article is very well done and I see a case for day of atonement. The one question I have is "no man knows the day or the hour" sounds like yom Teruah language. Do you have a comment on that? Arva

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  43. Compared to the beginning of September up to the time of the Great Sign, this week seems to be pretty calm around the world. Yes there are still problems around the world but no major natural disasters and no imminent threats of nuclear war. Behind the scenes things are still going on, but things are relatively quiet in comparison.

    Is this the calm before the storm?

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  44. The Yom Kippur rapture makes sense when you look at the shadows and ultimate fufillment.

    For YK, seal 7 is a heavenly enactment of the YK ceremony. This will be the shadow. The ultimate fulfillment comes at the second coming.

    https://redmoonrapture.wordpress.com/2017/09/28/yom-kippur-do-we-go-up-as-wrath-comes-down/

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  45. Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) – Tishrei 10

    The true / substance fulfillment of the Day of Atonement will be at the second coming of Christ. Whether this is the revelation as Warrior King mounted on a white horse for the Battle of Armageddon (Revelation 19), or the 7th Bowl Judgement (Revelation 16:17-21), I am not sure.

    If there is a shadow fulfillment of the Day of Atonement this year, I believe it will be due to the association of the wrath of God beginning. I want to examine the following passages:

    Leviticus 16, Yom Kippur ceremony on earth (shadow)

    11 “Aaron shall present the bull as a sin offering for himself, and shall make atonement for himself and for his house. He shall kill the bull as a sin offering for himself. 12 And he shall take a censer full of coals of fire from the altar before the Lord, and two handfuls of sweet incense beaten small, and he shall bring it inside the veil 13 and put the incense on the fire before the Lord, that the cloud of the incense may cover the mercy seat that is over the testimony, so that he does not die.

    Revelation 8, Seal 7 Yom Kippur ceremony in heaven (fulfillment)

    8 When the Lamb opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour. 2 Then I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and seven trumpets were given to them. 3 And another angel came and stood at the altar with a golden censer, and he was given much incense to offer with the prayers of all the saints on the golden altar before the throne, 4 and the smoke of the incense, with the prayers of the saints, rose before God from the hand of the angel. 5 Then the angel took the censer and filled it with fire from the altar and threw it on the earth, and there were peals of thunder, rumblings, flashes of lightning, and an earthquake.

    Note the parallels: Censer, incense as an offering, coals of fire from the altar, altar before God, smoke of the incense.

    Seal 7 appears to be the initiation of the wrath of God upon the earth, starting the Day of the Lord. The Day of the Lord is also known as “The Time of Jacob’s Trouble”. The 40 Days of Repentance and the 10 Days of Awe are over. Fates have been sealed, as per traditional Jewish interpretation of the Fall Feasts.

    An excellent study of this can be found here, Jesus Christ initiates the Wrath of God (BeginningandEnd).

    If you believe we are seeing birth pains, do you know what that really means? I mean, REALLY MEANS?

    Don’t go there – Don’t go there – Don’t go there – YES, WE ARE GOING TO GO THERE! The Seals described in Revelation 6 probably aren’t what you’ve been taught. When you get a letter in the mail, do you open it at once, or pick at it over days or weeks or years? You open it, right? So you can read what’s on the document inside? It’s the same with the Seals. The Seals are currently RESTRAINING the scroll from being opened. Yes. It is EXACTLY what you are thinking. 2 Thessalonians 2.

    At some point in time, the RESTRAINER, Him who restrains, is going to be removed. The right person (Lamb), place (heaven), and time (fullness of gentiles into new covenant – Romans 11:25) will have been reached.

    Imagine horses at a starting gate. But they are being restrained. Chomping at the bit though, desperate to burst forth!!! So….what restrains them?

    They horses of the apocalypse gallop forth the moment we leave.

    When the Day of the Lord (“Tribulation”) arrives, it will be marked all at once by the arrival of widespread war, global earthquakes, famines and pestilences, terrors and great signs from heaven. Collectively, “all these” are the “beginning” of the birth pains. These are exactly paralleled in Seals 1-4 and Seal 6. The rapture of the church is pictured in Seal 5 (dead in Christ) and Seal 6 (alive in Christ).

    Could it be that Seals 1-7 will be opened on Yom Kippur this year?

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  47. Thank you for this article, I'm glad you addressed the atonement possibility for the rapture.

    I was looking at the dates for the Torah and Haftarah readings and noticed that on the 30th the readings are Deuteronomy 32 and 2 Samuel 22. (List is here: http://torahcalendar.com/PDF/Parashah.pdf) Interesting to note that not one, but BOTH passages are about God deliverance. In Deuteronomy 32 it says that "He found him in a desert land, and in the waste howling wilderness; he led him about, he instructed him, he kept him as the apple of his eye." (Deut. 32:10) 2 Samuel 22 is David's song after God delivered him "out of the hand of all his enemies and out of the hand of Saul." (2 Sam. 22:1) It's interesting to note that this is exactly what God does after the Rev 12 sign. He prepares a place in the wilderness where the woman (Israel) is nourished for a time, times, and half a time. (Rev. 12:14) Very interesting correlation...could God be telling Israel through those scripture readings that he will deliver them and prepare a place for them in the midst of the tribulation?

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  48. Paul (a commenter) said:

    "Again, read 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 carefully! In the first verse it says "Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him". What is "our gathering to Him" means? Isn't it what we call the Rapture?
    Paul clearly states our gathering to Him won't happen unless the man of sin is revealed. Plain and simple!"

    I have read it carefully, many times. The apostle does mention the Rapture in the phrase "our gathering together to Him", but he does NOT connect that to the revealing of the man of sin. The "gathering" is not part of the sentence clause pertaining to the man of sin. The apostle DOES connect the DAY Of THE LORD to the revealing of the man of sin:

    "For THAT DAY [the Day of the Lord] will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction..."

    Plain and simple, it is the DAY OF THE LORD that is being held back, not our gathering together to Him.

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  49. First, great article! I appreciate that you mentioned Tabernacles. You sound open minded so I am venturing into the waters here. I’m writing to weigh in with another rapture/awakening option while we are still in the midst of the Jewish feast season. On the surface, I’m sure it seems a bit like grasping for yet another date but this has been my position for quite some time. I released a book a month ago called Convergence: The Fullness of Time is Here. My book covers a lot of ground but includes a pivotal chapter on the timing of the Revelation 12 sign.

    Briefly, I believe the date is October 13, 2017, a stand-alone feast day—the Eighth-Day Feast (mentioned by Pastor Rich in the comments above), also known as Shemini Atzeret. (When you dig into the significance of the one-day feast, Shemini Atzeret, I think you may get excited. http://www.triumphpro.com/shemini-atzeret-eighth-day.htm) Here is why I believe October 13 is the day. We set the place on Stellarium to Israel for obvious reasons. Why would we not also use the constellation stick figure they would have used in ancient times? It makes all the difference in the world to give Virgo more of a waist and pushes the dates back around a month resulting in the birth of Jupiter from Virgo on October 13, the Eight-Day Feast. Setterfield.org is the website where I found this figure but there are many Google images of Virgo with a waist, in one form or another, giving this theory more credibility. http://www.setterfield.org/stargospel.html#virgo

    In this section on Virgo, Setterfield.org claims these figures have changed a lot over the millennia and I think you would agree when you look at the difference between Stellarium’s Virgo and the one in Google sky (in our lifetime never mind over thousands of years). There is a huge difference between these two. The difference between the ancient figure and that of Stellarium is more subtle but makes an enormous difference in the timing of the birth not the alignment.

    I find it curious, in my scenario, that there are two events—the alignment and the birth, that fall on two different dates both of which are one day after a major Jewish feast. I don’t have this completely worked out yet, but I suspect it may have something to do with the fact that the tribulation is for the Jews and the rapture/awakening is for the gentile bride/church. Hence, the two dates are minor feast days. Shabbat Shuva, a repentance holiday, but there may be a double meaning here. Shuva is the Hebrew word for repentance but literally means return and could be construed as His imminent return, i.e. not September 23 but shortly thereafter. Shemini Atzeret has a wonderful message to it that speaks to me of the romance of God.

    I am not writing to sell a book. It’s not about that (though all proceeds go to Kingdom causes and purposes). I desire to provide hope to you and others who may be discouraged by the current turn of events. Additionally, there is a much larger message in my book than “When is the rapture/awakening?” If you are interested, the preview of the ebook version on Amazon lets you read well into the second chapter.

    Thank you for letting me intrude with my thoughts! Bliss to you!
    Liz

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  50. Wow! With all this talk of Feasts, tabernacles & horn blowing sounds like we should all be Jewish! : )

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