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A Pair of Kings


I've written on more than one occasion concerning Old Testament characters whose lives serve as types or foreshadowings of Christ, but it recently hit me that I had overlooked someone. And just exactly who did I overlook? Just the one man who was without a doubt the most important foreshadowing of Christ who ever lived throughout the entire span of biblical history, that's all.

And as the title of this article suggests, that man who was easily the most important foreshadowing of the King of kings was a king himself—Israel's greatest in the opinion of any Bible scholar you care to ask, be they Jew or Gentile. And I have a sneaky feeling that most of you scriptural sleuths out there have probably already figured out who I am referring to:

King David

You might say that God used David to construct the prophetic scaffolding for Christ's role as the Messiah: His earthly ministry, His future reign in the Millennial Kingdom, and His reign as the King of Creation for all eternity. So David and Jesus are the "pair of kings" we are going to look at in this article.

There are numerous parallels between David and Jesus, and as I often do I am going to narrow it down a bit to a Top 10 list: 10 ways in which the lives of these two kings are strikingly similar. In addition, I want to look at several Old Testament prophecies that connect David to Jesus, and that effectively present us with the greatest paradox of all time:

A supreme paradox that remained a

mystery until the nature of God's plan

of redemption was revealed to man.

And it was the King of kings Himself who began to reveal the true nature of that paradoxical plan of redemption two thousand years ago during His time on earth, finally hammering home the key aspect of that plan by being crucified, buried in a rich man's tomb, and on the third day rising from the grave and returning to life to the ecstatic astonishment of His disciples and followers.

Today, those blessed to have come to an understanding of God's plan of salvation can see God's plan being clearly expressed in the text of the Old Testament. We understand through the benefit of hindsight what the Old Testament prophets are talking about. To us it's not paradoxical at all—it's right there in black and white...we get it. But God deliberately couched the details of His plan in a comparatively cryptic manner so that no one would clearly understand it until the crucial events actually occurred.

And "no one" included Satan.

God's useful idiot: I've written about this before, but understand that prior to the Crucifixion, Satan had been a busy boy ever since Adam and Eve got evicted from the Garden of Eden, doing his best to thwart God's plan by killing or disqualifying in some manner anyone he suspected might be the "seed of the woman" who would "crush his head" that God had promised to send in Genesis 3:15—in other words, Christ, the coming Redeemer.

Remember: Satan can quote every word of Scripture. Yet when Pilate asked the crowd that day what they wanted him to do with Jesus after he pardoned Barabbas, I have no doubt that Satan and a gaggle of his demons were scurrying about prompting the crowd to shout "Crucify Him!" And for a while (well, less than three days) Satan believed he had finally won. That is, until he got an unexpected visitor down in Sheol who stopped by to do a little preaching and gather the righteous dead from Paradise and relocate them to heaven. And how could He do that? Because His perfect sacrifice had removed their sin that had previously only been covered by the blood of barnyard animals.

The point is that if Satan had actually been able to understood the details of God's plan from the text of Scripture, he would have been prompting the crowd to shout for Pilate to crucify Barabbas!

God played Satan like a Stradivarius, and used him as an unwitting tool to help carry out His plan with exacting precision. And guess what? God's gonna play him again during the Tribulation, as Satan and his stooge play their preordained roles in the judgments of Daniel's 70th Week. The Antichrist will fail in his efforts to wipe out the Jewish remnant for his boss, and that's key because it is the Jewish remnant who will call on the Lord to save them at the climax of the Tribulation and thus trigger the Second Coming.

My point is that God's plan of redemption is spelled out in His Word, but nobody, including Satan, figured out the details until it was a done deal.

OK, down to business. Here are my Top 10 parallels that show what a remarkable foreshadowing the King of Israel is of the King of Creation.

Parallels between David and Jesus

1. Origins.

Both David and Jesus were born in the same town: Bethlehem.

David was born in Bethlehem (1 Sam. 17:12), the youngest son of Jesse.

Matthew and Luke both tell us Jesus was born in Bethlehem, and Luke refers to Bethlehem as "the City of David" (Matt. 2:1; Luke 2:4–6).

Jesus' birth in Bethlehem also fulfilled a prophecy in Micah:

But you, Bethlehem Ephratah, [Ephratah: another name for Bethlehem] though you be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of you shall he come forth to me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. [This is the Messiah, and note how this has clear overtones of eternal existence.]

(Micah 5:2 AKJV / emphasis & [comments] added)

Micah wrote this over two centuries after the death of David, and during that time Bethlehem had become famous as the birthplace of Israel's greatest king. And in the messianic fever that began to grow after the Roman occupation of Israel began in AD 6–7, the fact that Jesus was born in Bethlehem would have sent a clear, prophetic message to those who were actively looking for the arrival of the Messiah.

So right from the beginning, Jesus the Messiah was being linked to David in terms of where He would be born.

2. Tending sheep.

Both David and Jesus were shepherds.

As the youngest of eight sons, the future king of all of Israel was saddled with the duty of tending his father's sheep in the Bethlehem area (1 Sam. 17:15).

In John's Gospel, Jesus refers to Himself as "the Good Shepherd," and proceeds to spin this into a beautiful description of His relationship with believers:

11 I am the good shepherd. [He is the Shepherd and believers are His sheep.] The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. 12 He who is a hired hand, and not a shepherd, who doesn't own the sheep, sees the wolf coming, leaves the sheep, and flees. The wolf snatches the sheep and scatters them. 13 The hired hand flees because he is a hired hand and doesn't care for the sheep. 14 I am the good shepherd. I know my own, and I'm known by my own; 15 even as the Father knows me, and I know the Father. I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep which are not of this fold. [He is initially speaking to Israel, but now refers to Gentiles.] I must bring them also, and they will hear my voice. They will become one flock with one shepherd."

(John 10:11–16 / emphasis & [comments] added)

3. Sibling dynamics.

Both David and Jesus had issues with their siblings.

For one thing, both David and Jesus were chosen by God and rose to prominence over their brothers. In 1 Samuel 16:1–13, God sends the prophet Samuel to pay a visit to David's father Jesse in Bethlehem for the express purpose of anointing one of his sons as king.

But God doesn't tell Samuel beforehand which one to anoint.

One by one, Jesse's sons appear before Samuel, and one by one Samuel says, "The LORD hasn't chosen this one." After Jesse's seven oldest sons have passed before Samuel and been rejected, Samuel asks if there are any more sons to consider. Jesse admits there is the still the youngest, who is out tending sheep. Samuel insists on waiting until they can go get him and bring him in to stand before him. When David is finally brought in, God says to Samuel:

"Anoint him, for he is the one."

The Gospels tell us Jesus had (at least) four brothers (James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas) and two unnamed sisters; but like David, Jesus was "the One." Matthew and Mark both mention these siblings when they describe the dismissive skepticism Jesus faced when He returned to Nazareth (Matt. 13:53–58; Mark 6:1–6). He was born in Bethlehem, but grew up in Nazareth.

But back home in Nazareth, Jesus was just "the carpenter's son."

In addition, both David and Jesus were mocked by their brothers.

David's oldest brother Eliab ridiculed his kid brother when he showed up and was prepared to accept the challenge of facing Goliath (1 Sam. 17:28–30).

Jesus' brothers didn't believe He was the Messiah, and mockingly challenged Him to go to the celebration of the Feast of Tabernacles in Jerusalem and publicly reveal Himself as such if He really was what He claimed. Jesus told them His "time had not yet come," and ended up going to the feast in His own time and in His own way (John 7:1–13).

Christ's brothers became believers after the Resurrection, and James went on to become an important leader in the early Church and authored the New Testament book that bears his name.

4. Anointing for their roles.

Both David and Jesus were anointed for their future roles.

David was actually anointed as king three times:

He was anointed be the future king as in #3 above (1 Sam. 16:13).

He was later anointed to be king of Judah (2 Sam. 2:4).

Finally, he was anointed to be king over all of Israel (2 Sam. 5:3–4).

Jesus was anointed for His role as Prophet, Priest, and King when He was baptized by John in the Jordan River. And the Father announced His approval from heaven as the Holy Spirit descended upon His Son like a dove.

Also, both David and Jesus were anointed for their roles at about the age of 30 (2 Sam. 5:4; Luke 3:23). (For David, this applies to his third anointing.)

5. Waiting to rule.

Both David and Jesus had/have to wait for the appropriate time to rule.

Note that David had to wait for his time to fully rule as king of Israel. David was initially anointed while Saul was still king, and had to wait a number of years before assuming his full kingship.

Although Christ has been anointed to be the eternal King of kings, you might say His Kingship has a sort of "already-but-not-yet" quality to it. In Ephesians 1:15–23, Paul explains how after God the Father raised Jesus from the dead, He seated Him at His right hand, "far above all rule, authority, power, dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age, but also in that which is to come" (Eph. 1:21).

But Christ has not yet assumed His full Kingship in the form taking the throne of David...that will come at the inauguration of the Millennial Kingdom, after He has made His enemies His footstool during the Great Tribulation.

6. Rejection.

Both David and Jesus had to deal with being rejected by their own people.

David faced the treason and treachery of his son Absalom, who led a rebellion against him. The bulk of the story appears in 2 Samuel 13–19.

Absalom rebelled against his father, and sought to undermine David's authority. After Absalom arranged for his loyal followers to proclaim him "king," the conflict between father and son intensified. But after Absalom was killed in David's successful counter-offensive (and against his orders), as a father he grieved deeply and openly for his treasonous son, pouring cold water on Israel's victory celebration. David's open expressions of grief after Israel's victory so perturbed his military commander Joab that he accused David of "loving those who hated him and hating those who loved him" (2 Sam. 19:5–6).

Loving the unlovable: One thing about David's relationship with his son Absalom that finally jumped out and slapped me square in the face was the fact that no matter how bad Absalom was (and he was very bad)—no matter how treasonous or treacherous he became, Scripture makes it crystal clear that David's love for his son never died. You know, the Word says David was a man after God's own heart (1 Sam. 13:14), but this shows us something more. David was more than just a man after God's own heart:

David was a man with a

heart like God's own heart.

David deeply loved his son the way the best of fathers loves the best of sons in the best of times, even though that son had become utterly unlovable and had essentially devolved into a dangerous, traitorous enemy.

Don't look now, but that's

exactly the way God loves us.

But God commends his own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

(Romans 5:8)

Jesus was utterly rejected by the Jewish religious leaders, and the tension between them steadily increased throughout His public ministry.

The scribes and the Pharisees would often ask or secretly arrange for others to ask Jesus loaded questions—questions craftily designed so that no matter how Jesus responded, they could spin it into something they could use to cause the common people to turn against from Him. It always blew up in their faces, however, because Jesus invariably gave them an answer they didn't see coming and that left them in stunned silence...and made them look like fools.

That's one reason they simply had to take Him out.

Their hatred for Jesus finally reached the boiling point: With the cooperation of their Roman masters, the Jewish religious leaders plotted to have Jesus arrested, illegally tried on false charges, and crucified by the Romans (because the Jews lost the legal authority to carry out capital punishment when the Romans took over the region in AD 6–7).

7. Betrayed by someone close.

Both David and Jesus were betrayed by someone close to them.

David's trusted counselor Ahithophel betrayed him during the rebellion led by David's son Absalom that I mentioned in #6 above (2 Sam. 16–17).

Jesus was betrayed by one of His disciples, Judas. Judas excused himself from the Last Supper to go make a deal with the chief priests to lead the Romans to Jesus later that night on the Mount of Olives where they were camped.

It is also worth noting that both Ahithophel and Judas hung themselves after their acts of betrayal (2 Sam. 17:23; Matt. 27:5).

8. Conquering enemies.

Both David and Jesus conquered powerful enemies.

The one that leaps to mind for David is the Philistine giant Goliath. There is some controversy over Goliath's actual height, since many translations say "six cubits and a span" (9'9"), while the Septuagint reads "four cubits and a span" (6'9"). And there are other guesstimates besides these. Many commentators today tend to go with the latter, but either way Goliath was one big dude.

But however tall Goliath was, it wasn't just his height—from all indications he was monstrously strong. Bible scholars say that according to 1 Samuel 17:5, Goliath's armor weighed 125 pounds. But more importantly, he was apparently a highly skilled and terrifyingly fierce warrior that made a formidable opponent for any foe of any stature under any circumstances.

So when a teenage shepherd boy came out that day to challenge him armed with nothing but his staff and a sling, Goliath mocked him:

43 The Philistine said to David, "Am I a dog, that you come to me with sticks?" The Philistine cursed David by his gods.

(1 Samuel 17:43)

David didn't mock Goliath...he didn't need to. David just spelled out for him the simple reality of the situation:

45 Then said David to the Philistine, You come to me with a sword, and with a spear, and with a shield: but I come to you in the name of the LORD of hosts...

(1 Samuel 17:45a)

David had also placed five smooth, round stones in his pouch. But thanks to the LORD of hosts...

He only needed one.

Later as king, David went on to win 11 major military victories, thus helping Israel secure and expand its territory.

When we talk about the King of Creation, however, you can forget about big, strong guys with big, heavy swords (and big, loud mouths). When Jesus died on the cross and rose from the grave to never die again, He conquered the most powerful and pervasive enemy that ever existed:

Death.

9. Attracting the outcasts.

The early followers of both David and Jesus were the dregs of society.

David's first followers were people who were of society's lower class:

Everyone who was in distress, everyone who was in debt, and everyone who was discontented gathered themselves to him; [i.e. to a young David] and he became captain over them. There were with him about four hundred men.

(1 Samuel 22:2 / emphasis & [comments] added)

Likewise, many of Christ's followers were also of the outcast demographic: the poor, the weak, the lowly, the unlearned, etc. And as Paul explains in his first letter to the believers in Corinth, God arranged it that way for a reason:

26 For you see your calling, brothers, that not many are wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, and not many noble; 27 but God chose the foolish things of the world that he might put to shame those who are wise. God chose the weak things of the world that he might put to shame the things that are strong. 28 God chose the lowly things of the world, and the things that are despised, and the things that don't exist, that he might bring to nothing the things that exist, 29 that no flesh should boast before God.

(1 Corinthians 1:26–29 / emphasis added)

As Paul puts it in his second letter to those same believers:

He has said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." Most gladly therefore I will rather glory in my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may rest on me. 10 Therefore I take pleasure in weaknesses, in injuries, in necessities, in persecutions, and in distresses, for Christ's sake. For when I am weak, then am I strong.

(2 Corinthians 12:9–10 / emphasis added)

10. Crying and dying in Jerusalem.

Both David and Jesus wept over tragic events pertaining to Jerusalem.

As David's son Absalom stirred up rebellion against his father and headed toward Jerusalem in attack mode, David was compelled to flee the city. As he fled Jerusalem heading east, he walked up the Mount of Olives, weeping over the heartbreaking events that were overtaking him (2 Sam. 15:30): how his own son had violently turned against him and was now coming to attack him in Jerusalem, and how his own sin in regard to Bathsheba and her husband Uriah had contributed to the calamities he was currently going through.

As Jesus approached Jerusalem for the final week of His earthly ministry, He approached the city from the east, coming down the Mount of Olives toward the city. As He did so, Jesus wept as well:

41 When he came near, he saw the city [Jerusalem] and wept over it, 42 saying, "If you, even you, had known today the things which belong to your peace! But now, they are hidden from your eyes. 43 For the days will come on you when your enemies will throw up a barricade against you, surround you, hem you in on every side, 44 and will dash you and your children within you to the ground. They will not leave in you one stone on another, because you didn't know the time of your visitation." [That is, because you failed to recognize your Messiah when He arrived, in spite of all the compelling evidence.]

(Luke 19:41–44 / emphasis & [comments] added)

Not only did David and Jesus both weep on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem, they both died in Jerusalem. However, their deaths obviously came under radically different circumstances and had radically different outcomes.

Now I want to discuss several Old Testament prophecies that connect David with Jesus, and I want you to see clearly how these prophecies present us with a startling paradox that forms the crux of God's plan of redemption that no one understood or saw coming until the events of Passion Week unfolded.

Prophecies connecting David with Jesus

There are many prophecies scattered throughout the Old Testament that prophesy very similar things concerning the nature of the relationship between David and Jesus, but for the sake of simplicity I decided to narrow it down to three that serve as models for what is prophesied in a number of other places: three prophecies that effectively serve to drive home the key points.

1. The Davidic Covenant.

God gave the fundamental promise of an eternal kingdom that would be ruled forever by one of David's future physical descendants to the prophet Nathan, who delivered it to David in person. This prophecy clearly establishes the eternal connection between David and the Messiah:

12 When your days [speaking to David] are fulfilled and you sleep with your fathers, I will set up your offspring after you, who will proceed out of your body, [this can only be referring to a literal, physical ancestor] and I will establish his kingdom. 13 He will build a house for my name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. [Key word: "forever."] 14 I will be his father, and he will be my son. If he commits iniquity, [see remarks below] I will chasten him with the rod of men and with the stripes of the children of men; 15 but my loving kindness will not depart from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before you. 16 Your house and your kingdom will be made sure forever before you. Your throne will be established forever. [That key word "forever" is repeatedly emphasized.]

(2 Samuel 7:12–16 / emphasis & [comments] added)

In regard to verse 14, note that although this prophecy is ultimately focused on one certain future descendant of David (i.e. Jesus), some of the phrasing applies broadly to the entire line of David's descendants who ruled, and verse 14 is an example. "If he commits iniquity" obviously doesn't apply to Jesus, who knew no sin. But it does apply generally to David's other descendants beginning with Solomon, the son that took David's throne after him. Solomon ultimately fell into idolatry thanks in large part to his legion of foreign wives.

2. The Christmas prophecy.

One of the most popular lines of Scripture quoted at Christmas time comes from the book of Isaiah, and it is a powerful prophecy that speaks to the future Messiah who will sit on David's throne and rule forever. It also pegs the Messiah as a physical descendant of David, yet ruling for eternity:

For to us a child is born, to us a son is given: [that means the Messiah must be physically human] and the government shall be on his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, [...and also have a divine nature] The Prince of Peace.

Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, [our key word, just phrased differently] on the throne of David, [there's the Messiah's connection to David] and on his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from now on even for ever. [There's that key word again.] The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

(Isaiah 9:6–7 AKJV / emphasis & [comments] added)

Well, when a child is born (v. 6), we know it's physically human. But that child is divine (v. 6), will rule on the throne of David (v. 7), and will rule forever (v. 7), which humans cannot physically do. Did I miss anything?

3. The Lord of lords.

This is one of the most frequently quoted Old Testament passages in the entire New Testament...not to mention one of the most baffling:

The LORD said to my Lord, Sit you at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.

(Psalm 110:1 AKJV)

The psalm was written by David, and David is the first-person narrator here. In other words, God the Father is speaking to someone that David calls "my Lord," and it is understood in the psalm that the LORD (God the Father) is talking about the Messiah. The Pharisees understood the part about the Messiah sitting at God's right hand and His enemies being made His footstool. But...

T-I-L-T: In the psalm, David himself is referring to the Messiah, which everyone knew had to be a physical descendant of David...the Pharisees had a handle on that part. But here's David referring to that Messiah as "my Lord," clearly communicating that the Messiah is not merely his physical descendant, but also his superior/master/leader/divine ruler.

Wait a second...excuse me?! T-I-L-T!!

There's simply no way to explain this in natural terms. Jesus used this same verse to stump the Pharisees during the last week of His earthly ministry:

41 Now while the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them a question, 42 saying, "What do you think of the Christ? Whose son is he?" They said to him, "Of David." 43 He said to them, "How then does David in the Spirit call him Lord, saying,

44 'The Lord said to my Lord, sit on my right hand, until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet'? [quoting Psalm 110:1]

45 "If then David calls him Lord, how is he his son?" [Welcome to the supreme paradox.] 46 No one was able to answer him a word, neither did any man dare ask him any more questions from that day forward.

(Matthew 22:41–46 / emphasis & [comments] added)

The Pharisees were brilliant biblical scholars to a man, but Jesus' question put them to silence.

That's because there is only one answer, and only the Resurrection would reveal that answer: The Messiah would be someone born into this world as a physical human, who later turns out to be an eternal, divine Being.

That is, the Messiah had to be David's

descendant who was also David's Lord.

As I said, these prophecies reveal the crucial relationship between King David and the King of Creation, and there are a number of other prophecies throughout the Old Testament that speak to similar aspects of this relationship, perhaps phrased differently or emphasizing different details. If you're interested, have a look at some the following passages:

• Jeremiah 23:5–6; 33:15–17

• Zechariah 3:8; 6:12

• Ezekiel 34:23–24; 37:24–25

• Psalm 89:3–4, 35–37

• Isaiah 11:1, 10

And that leaves us at the doorstep of our paradox.

The supreme paradox

These three prophecies clearly convey the nature of David's prophetic relationship with Jesus, and in the process reveal our paradox.

Scripture simply leaves no way around it. The Messiah absolutely has to be...

1. HUMAN. Why? He has to be David's physical descendant.

2. DIVINE. Why? He has to be David's Lord who will reign for eternity on David's throne.

God's Word couldn't be any clearer, no matter how hard anyone tries to ignore it, allegorize it away, or bury it under tons of vague misdirection.

The key to our supreme paradox is buried in Old Testament prophecy, but it's something that no one ever grasped before it actually happened:

The Creator God described in His Word exists in the form of three distinct, divine Persons: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. God the Father sent His divine Son to be born into the world in a body of flesh and live a life as a man—and as a physical descendant of King David. His Son, the Messiah, was crucified and buried—dead as a doornail.

\o/ \o/ But... \o/ \o/

On the third day He rose from the grave in a glorified body, never to taste death again. He conquered death, and His death paid sin's penalty on our behalf. He will live forever as the King of Creation, and will rule for eternity on the Throne of David. All those who place their faith in Him and what He accomplished through His sacrifice will also live forever with Him.

The basic problem is that the "But..." part, the Resurrection, was buried in obscurity until it actually happened.

The reality of the Resurrection is the one thing that threads every prophetic needle along the path that connects David and Jesus throughout the entire Old Testament, and unravels the supreme paradox in a straightforward manner.

The reality of the Resurrection is the one thing that makes all the prophecies connecting King David and the King of Creation—the pair of kings we have been discussing in this article—fit together and make perfect sense.

Most importantly, the reality of the Resurrection is the one thing that makes our salvation and our eternal reconciliation to a holy God possible. Without it, any such notions concerning our "salvation" collapse like a house of cards, and the very foundation of the gospel crumbles like a stale Christmas cookie.

Paul affirms this truth in his first letter to the believers in Corinth:

13 But if there is no resurrection of the dead, [this is the argument Paul is attacking] neither has Christ been raised. 14 If Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain and your faith also is in vain.

(1 Corinthians 15:13–14 / emphasis & [comments] added)

In other words, it comes down to this:

If Christ didn't rise from the dead,

then He was delusional charlatan,

the Bible is a pack of lies and legends,

and believers are fools for falling for it.

But I've got some Good News for you:

Christ DID rise from the dead!

And you don't have to take my word for it, because there is strong, reliable, historical evidence that supports it, to the brow-furrowing consternation of uninformed skeptics and naysayers.

So our pair of kings tell a magnificent story, and I pray everyone reading this has come to a life-changing, eternity-altering understanding of that story.

Incidentally, speaking of "a pair of kings," you might have assumed I was thinking of poker when I chose that line as the title of this article.

Well, indeed I was...but I have a confession to make:

I laugh every time I think about poker, because back in the day people who knew me and knew I was pretty sharp at math (BS with honors from UIUC) would often assume I must be a pretty good poker player. Until we actually sit down and played, that is, and they discovered to their surprise (and delight) how completely, utterly, hopelessly lousy I am at it.

"They say poker is a zero-sum game. It must be, because every time I play my sum ends up zero."
— Max Shapiro, poker columnist/humorist


From Greg Lauer @ A Little Strength—MAR '26: "A Pair of Kings"
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  1. Great article Greg. :)

    I really love the realization in modern times about Jesus legitimacy as David's descendant and being the Messiah through Nathan down through Mary, which bypasses Solomon's curse via Joseph.

    Who saw that coming? :D

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    1. Not really Solomon's curse but rather Jeconiah.

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    3. Exactly. Actually all four Gospels together reveal a fascinating spectrum in regard to Christ's origins:

      1. Matthew's genealogy goes through David and back to Abraham, emphasizing the Jewishness of Jesus and the fact that He is the Son of David to the people of Israel that he is addressing.

      2. Mark doesn't bother to include a genealogy because he is presenting Jesus as the Suffering Servant. Who cares about the genealogy of a servant?

      3. Luke's genealogy also goes through David and Abraham, but takes it all the way back to Adam to emphasize the fact that Jesus was fully man.

      4. John's "genealogy" just tells us the Word became flesh and lived among us. Period. In other words, he emphasizes that Jesus was God in the flesh.

      And, of course, the blood curse on Jeconiah tells us that Joseph wasn't Jesus' biological father...God was.

      Greg L.

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  2. This reflects both the Legal lineage in Joseph (Matthew 1:6-7), and the Biological lineage through Mary (Luke 3:31). King and Priest as it were.

    The curse was that no one from Jeconiah’s line would sit on David’s throne (Jeremiah 22:30). This curse applied to the direct male line of Jeconiah, which Matthew’s genealogy passes through.

    You also have inheritance by way of Mary with (Numbers 27:8-11) [The Daughters of Zelophehad rule] since Solomon's line was blocked by Jeconiah, it in turn rather came through Nathan.

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  3. God plays Chess while satan plays checkers. :)

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  4. The story of David, and of course that of Joseph, are telling of the trial of being set-apart for a special purpose. It is both a gift and a challenge. Personalities being what they are, there are predictable weaknesses to counterbalance each strength. Babies face this balance issue and the elderly do as well. Perhaps it is by design that life starts and ends with the reminder that we need to tread carefully. Pride in our accomplishments during the strength of our youth must be tempered with genuine humility and repentance for our frailty.

    David’s heart for his wayward son was his most godly and redeeming trait and an absolute must for a righteous ruling King. That and his love for his heavenly Father’s Ways.

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  5. Interjecting this because you guys HAVE GOT TO SEE THIS!

    I just put together a very short article including John Tracyzk's latest video sharing a January 2010 clip about an insider who was accidentally physically present at a meeting of Senior Masons in the City of London in June of 2005 where a pole shift cataclysm is revealed as well as a Masonic plan to provoke Israel to preemptively strike Iran with a nuclear weapon. As most of you know, God has revealed over and over that when the nuclear missiles come down, we go up!

    IRAN WAR is PLANNED NUCLEAR TRIGGER as PLANET X NEARS! JUNE 2026?

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    1. And to add to this guy's testimonial with a prophetic twist, we are nearing 77 completed years since the re-birth of Israel. With that thought in mind, the US is now reportedly sending out another carrier group to the Mediterranean. The George H W Bush carrier, CVN "77."

      That is most noteworthy considering that George H. W. Bush is the one out of whose mouth we first heard the famous “New World Order” speech.

      It would certainly appear that, if the testimony of this individual is legitimate and not some sort of disinformation release, the attack on Iran is signifying just such a limited nuclear attack upon Iran escalating to other said horrors globally timed to coincide or immediately precede the arrival of the Planet X system (Isaiah 24/Revelation 6).

      So, the George H.W. Bush carrier bearing the 77 mark/number as we approach Israel’s 77th anniversary as the attack on Iran is underway should be causing us all to sit up and take notice.

      Head on a swivel. It’s getting real.

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  6. At https://israel365news.com/416625/the-messiah-is-coming-this-year-and-the-war-with-iran-is-the-proof/ "The Messiah Is Coming This Year — And the War With Iran Is the Proof Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz".

    According to this Jewish website the messias, according to us the false messias, the antichrist, could arrive this year.

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  7. Hey friends, if you haven't yet heard: John Traczyk passed away. Please keep him and his friends/family in your prayers. He was a very dear brother.

    There is a GoFundMe to support his sister with funeral expenses if anyone is led to contribute.

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/honoring-johnnys-life-and-legacy-6jemg

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    1. Oh NO! I'm going to REALLY miss him. May we see him again after meeting the Lord Jesus VERY SOON in the air✨☁️

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  8. RE: Israel-Iran Nuclear Wars?

    Moin and Unsealed Family,
    In this new age of information warfare, that includes disinformation and misinformation, it is increasingly difficult to know what is real or fabricated and who is telling the truth. Each echo-chamber, of those on the Right and Left champion their narrative. That is expected. But as Believers and Followers of Jesus, we do have a ‘more-sure’ word of prophecy that has, is and will come to pass.

    And it is enough to know, in general how it will all turn out in the end. For example, as to the scenarios of when and what the prophecies of Psalm 83 War are? The Isaiah 17 destruction of Damascus and the Jeremiah 49 desolation of Elam? Or when are they going to pass? Presently, those, along with the Gog-Magog War and Armageddon are still rather elusive to ascertain with pinpoint accuracy.

    But of all people on Earth presently, we are and should be the People of Prophecy as the aim or reason for Prophecy is to testify of Jesus, per Revelation 19:10. This is why Prophecy is so important, now more so than ever. And for all the centuries of the Church Body neglecting it? It has produced an ill-educated body that has no answers and relevance as to know what to do and say/answer to the world in bewilderment and to what is coming, as would the Sons of Issachar.

    It is not a matter of also insinuating one has ‘arrived’ or has figured it out. On the contrary. But until then, here below is one’s attempt to synthesize the Israel-Iran Nuclear Wars in the context of Biblical Prophecy, that in essence it is really all about or will be. It comes from one’s point of view and perspective, given what one can ascertain based on public information, from both sides.

    For your discernment
    Lu Vega

    YouTube video

    ISRAEL-IRAN NUCLEAR WARS
    https://youtu.be/Ms7jYt4WZSY

    Article

    ISRAEL-IRAN NUCLEAR WARS
    https://postscripts.org/articles/f/a212-israel-iran-nuclear-wars

    YouTube video

    ISRAEL’S NUCLEAR ARSENAL
    https://youtu.be/_Qx2fuaGHqw

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    1. LU!
      Thank you for sharing your research--I've only begun to look over the Scriptures you outlined. I saw what you meant regarding the Trump Epic FURY Operation and in Daniel 8:7 the OE word CHOLER translated from the Hebrew word mรขrar which is used Biblically as: to embitter oneself; to be enraged.

      [Dan 8:7 KJV] 7 And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler[H4843] against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand.

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    2. Hi Lyn,
      Thanks. It does depend on the translation, specifically if one uses the International Standard Version, which uses ‘Fury’. Most others use the ‘Rage’ or ‘Furiously’, but the KJV uses Choler as you noted. I like it. :0 It is a loose typology association for sure, but if there is any possible implication in all that is happening in the Middle East, then what comes next is what made my ‘hair stand up’ as they say.

      We know that the End of Days would be like birth-pangs. And surely with each passing day, week, month and year, the intensity and frequency of world events are nearing the ‘birth’. The ‘birth’ of what? It is the birth of the Sons of Glory that all Creation is also waiting for. Amazing. I surmise that what we are seeing unfold in the Middle East is what will lead to the debut of the Biblical AntiChrist, some way, somehow. This could mean then just how close the Rapture event is. Iran will not be defeated entirely. The Prince of Persia is just too strong.

      The ‘Great’ Goat of the West, i.e., Trump might put down the Ram of Persia but it is not out. It might very well be the undoing of the USA, also correlated to that typology also, as I wrote about. And that is how, in some way or fashion, one is seeing this stage just being the 3rd in World War 3. This conflagration is just another steppingstone to the coming of the ‘Little Horn’. And we all know who the Bible is referring to.

      I think that we have really been in World War 3, but in stages. The weapons that are being used, aside from the conventional ones as astonishing. They now include Drones, A.I., Spyware and Hypersonic Missiles that are impossible to down. Those new Iranian ballistic missiles that are not only hypersonic, but spray projectiles ahead of it as to confuse the various Patriot, Iron-Sling, and Arrow systems that Israel and the Gulf States have. They are virtually ineffective in stopping them. Here is my breakdown of World War 3.

      3 STAGES OF WORLD WAR 3

      Stage 1 = the Russian-Ukrainian War.

      Stage 2 = the Israel-HAMAS War.

      Stage 3 = the Israel-Iran War.

      But as mentioned in my article, if this latest Israel-Iran war is echoing the prophecy of Daniel 8, and what is to be the possible outcome of Jeremiah 49, the next major inflection point will be the advent of the Biblical Antichrist. What comes next is that as the entire Middle East has been plunged into war, it has been by design, according to plan as chaos must reign.

      It would be a perfect time for the AntiChrist World ‘Savior’ to show up and bring the ‘Peace and Security’ guaranteed to Israel and the world. It would also confirm the 3 World Wars and how they would exactly occur and why based on what the Luciferian Mason Albert Pike outlined in his letter.

      …And yet, there is still the Gog-Magog War and Armageddon War to come.

      It is really Lucifer’s all-out effort to deter and prevent Jesus from coming back and possessing Earth, the Promised Land, Jerusalem and the Temple Mount. I am so glad, we who believe in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture will be spared these horrific wars to come. It does not preclude the suffering and tribulation still on this side of the Rapture of all those Brethren found in the thick of things in the East presently.

      The suffering and tribulation in the West, especially in the USA, will be in the form of barely being able to afford to live: Rent, Mortgages, Food, Fuel. The cost of living is impoverishing most Americans. But we hurt for those Brethren there amidst Iran and the Gulf States and in Israel that are living with daily danger. Many Iranian Christians have given their lives as martyrs. May we be found worthy of His sufferings.

      Lu Vega

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    3. The peace which the antichrist will bring, will just be a temporary ceasefire between Israel and her neighbouring enemies which will be broken very soon after signing of this covenant with the many and war will erupt all over the world. This will be the Second Seal of Revelation 6 with the rider on the red horse of war.

      Could it be that the Strait of Hormuz will not be opened until the antichrist arrives on the scene and this strait is opened again as a part of the covenant with the many which he will confirm? This strait must be opened again in order to build the futuristic Babylon in Iraq which will be the economic and the financial hub during the Tribulation Period.

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    4. RE: World War 3 Reports

      So, as I posted over at Revelation 12 Daily, 2026 sure would be nice for it to be the Rapture year, no?

      Here below are my latest attempt at making sense of the ‘Middle East Madness’. Are we in World War 3 yet? No? Yes? Maybe? Just about? For your discernment. As always, the article and chart links associated with the video will be in their descriptions.

      The material is not anything new or that we have gone over for over a decade now. But perhaps for those new readers not aware of my research, etc. And considering what is occurring in the world presently in light of Biblical Prophecy, it is good to rehash the topics for retrospection.

      Keep the Watch,
      Lu Vega

      ALBERT PIKE’S 3 WORLD WARS
      https://youtu.be/_ofJ7sFMyJA

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  9. There's a very popular game theorist (prof Jiang) on social media who predicts that USA will lose this war, as it will be forced to have a draft and send in ground troops into Iran, thereby getting stuck in it for years. This leads to both sides being weakened, allowing Israel to become the dominant power in the middle east and achieve its Greater Israel Project and "Pax Judaica" (surveillance state). According to him, Israel will become the center of the one world government. He also says that current events have been orchestrated by a secret society of Sabattean Frankists and Lubavitchers in the government whose goal is to force their Jewish messiah to come quickly once the third temple is built. USA is also the new "Rome" of bible prophecy.

    Wonder what u guys think of his theories?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spg58Glfz68

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  10. RE: True location of the coming 3rd Temple?

    As many End Times students of prophecy would attest, the Middle East Madness is inching towards the rebuilding of the 3rd Temple. The very Biblical theme of the House of YHVH being a ‘House of Prayer for all Nations’ will be capitalized upon to establish the Order out Chaos such Luciferians are employing.

    It will serve as the focal point during the Tribulation Period to bring the world together. And that venue will be that for world peace to prevail, Jehovah’ House has to be shared on the Temple Mount with the other God’s false religions and Houses of Prayer also. It will be the Ecumenical World Order come true. That is my supposition, anyway.

    I am not saying my interpretation is the right one but only sharing my research to that end. This video chart and video synopsis below summarizes my theory that the Holy of Holies is over the Dome of the Tablets based on my Phi Ratio Theory of space, time and prophecy. It is highlighted by superimposing the Phi Ratio spiral onto the entire Temple Mount platform, etc.

    I have presented the theory and topic before and with charts, but I decided to depict it in a ‘Blueprint’ format like an Architect. I thought that was cool, so you can download the chart and look it over. Any critique is welcomed.

    I am still playing with and learning about all the A.I. stuff to use for making videos. It is overwhelming and daunting. Anyway, I am slowly progressing on this learning curve. I have cloned my voice so in this video you will hear me without mumbling. ;0.

    Keep the Watch,
    Luis B. Vega

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    ABRAHAM FAMILY HOUSES BLUEPRINT
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RvkhCB3_ir9qkKnJz2K7TMT7mVvsLyot/view?usp=drive_link

    YouTube video

    ABRAHAM FAMILY HOUSES BLUEPRINT
    https://youtu.be/dYHS4Kjl_9Q

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  11. Yesterday the Lord put it on my heart to devote an article presenting a more condensed explanation for the coming Great Shaking. It will come in handy for those who wish to warn others of what is headed our way before the Rapture. Included in the article is a wonderfully comforting and ASTOUNDING ANGELIC VISITATION shared by Appalachia's Homestead with Patara:

    ARE WE ON THE VERGE OF THE GREAT SHAKING AND RAPTURE?

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  12. The antichrist won't be revealed until Europe's economy, financial system, society and politics are in shambles due to the ongoing war in the Middle-East.

    It is very possible that the Rapture won't occur until Christians cannot live anymore because of the enormous chaos in all kinds of fields and various wars. The ever-escalating war in the Middle East means that the enormous world chaos is also coming soon.

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  13. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-israel-keep-al-aqsa-mosque-closed-through-eid-al-fitr-and-beyond

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  14. RE: Israel’s 7-Front Wars

    Here is my commentary of the 7-Front Wars of Israel presently setting the entire Middle East ablaze and what could be the possible prophetic implications.

    Many are cautiously declining this latest Israel-Iran War, ‘World War 3’ but consider the comparison to the 1st 2 prior World Wars in terms of the core number of nations involved.
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    In World War 1, there was a total of 6 nations primarily involved.

    THE ALLIED POWERS (THE TRIPLE ENTENTE)

    1 France
    2 Great Britain
    3 Russia

    THE CENTRAL POWERS (THE TRIPLE ALLIANCE)
    4 Germany
    5 Austria-Hungary
    6 Ottoman Empire (Turkey)

    So, for World War 1, a total of 6 core nations were involved, and this was considered a ‘World War’, mainly being fought in Europe.
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    In World War 2, there was a total of 7 nations primarily involved.

    THE ALLIES
    1 United Kingdom
    2 United States
    3 Soviet Union
    4 China

    THE AXIS
    5 Nazi Germany
    6 Fascist Italy
    7 Imperial Japan

    So, for World War 2, a total of 7 core nations were involved, and this was considered a ‘World War’, mainly being fought in Europe.

    One’s point is that in the Middle East, there are 2 core nations at war with each other, Israel and Iran, but has involved at least 14 other nations in the entire Middle East, literally now set ablaze and this is not called or deemed a World War by comparison to the 2 prior ones? Food for thought.

    For your discernment,
    Keep the Watch,
    Lu Vega
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    YouTube video

    A215: ISRAEL’S 7-FRONT WARS
    THE VEILED SUNNI-SHIITE CONFLICT
    Why the Islamic Republic of Iran will not collapse
    https://youtu.be/SgGJOFgZ2rw

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  15. Wow nothing has changed since you banned be Gary!

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  16. Meanwhile the IEA warned for the worst energy crisis ever because of the ongoing war in the Gulf Region. It is very likely that an unprecedented worldwide energy crisis can cause the whole financial system to collapse, after which the antichrist can implement his mark of the beast financial system.

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  17. These MAGA worshippers and the NAR that surround Trump in their voo doo prayer chants...we are under curse and not blessing. They always quote 2Chronicles7:14......

    They need to read 5 verses later the consequences of not doing thr thins verse 14 says to do.

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    1. Some thoughts in regard to 2 Chronicles 7:14...

      https://www.alittlestrength.com/articles/2014/1407-if-my-people.htm

      Greg L.

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    2. Greg L. Yes. So well done! (Stan, you get it too.)

      "Israel is the only nation on earth that has ever been in a covenant relationship with God. And they still are."

      Your article, Greg, illustrates the huge problem with our educational system for decades now. We aren't taught critical thinking or how to read and assess ideas/information in CONTEXT. From one English teacher to another, I know I'm preaching to the choir. But, your article points out just how dangerous that lack is. As you say, this isn't to criticize the good intentions of well meaning Christians, but incomplete/sloppy/agenda-driven (even well meaning) reading and application of Scripture leads to all kinds of wrong doctrines. Your article is just as relevant, if not more so, today as it was in 2014. Thanks for re-posting the link. It isn't jus about 2 Chron. 7:14, it's about a much bigger picture as you adeptly point out.

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    3. From Greg L's article:

      When we understand who we are and what we have in Christ under the New Covenant, maybe we will stop trying to claim Old Covenant promises that do not apply to us.

      Amen.

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    4. I LOVE the OT, BTW, and believe we, the Church, have much to learn historically, archeologically, geopolitically, etc. but most of all spiritually: (I know I'm preaching to the choir here) the character and nature of God; His love and grace toward His people, His (!) standards of living, His standards of righteousness, His standards of justice and fairness, His faithfulness to beloved but flawed individuals and Israel as a nation, e.g. But we are not Israel and it is imperative that we distinguish between what God means for her specifically, and what He means for us. Greg, see what you've done? You've pushed my anti replacement theology button๐Ÿ˜‰. Ok, fam, I'm done.

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  19. @Postscripts,

    Lu, I appreciate your comment above about these times of Information Warfare, deception, etc

    I wanted to just acknowledge this as it was a confirmation of sorts for me. :)

    What really rang most true to me was your comment:

    "But as Believers and Followers of Jesus, we do have a ‘more-sure’ word of prophecy that has, is and will come to pass. And it is enough to know, in general how it will all turn out in the end."

    For me, especially in the last year or so I have grown tired of the Prophecy machine of the social world, the indulgence of sensationalism, the lack of accountability for the false prophets and their false prophecy. It has become a very real (Jeremiah 23) correlation.

    The mood also forced me into a retrospect and evaluation of my focuses. In times past I was gung ho for prophecy. I still believe in it, but I also realized I was spending way too much time in and on it.

    I realize that the Word is my only valuable source, that and the Holy Spirit in prayer. I also realized the true nature of the fight around me, and the many pulls trying to distract me from it.

    As of late my blog entries usually return right back to the Gospel, the true nature of Salvation, and that absolute abhorrence of "works theology" and legalism. Here we are nearly 2000 years later fighting the very same old battle that Paul fought constantly. Deception and Hypocrisy, abound, and are militarized and weaponized against us.

    I do not despise prophecy, and even Paul commanded us not to, but I have gained enough understanding of what is to come, and have no time for rehashing it daily. I believe it, I know it's coming, I can see the fulfillment happening in real time.

    I have to reach who has not yet made the decision and is willing to listen.

    Now, Prophecy under these conditions, is an excellent door opener and ice breaker, but my fight these days is more about Gospel purity and truth as Christ spoke it and meant it.

    The assault is unbelievable these days. par for the course I guess, but man, just really... Wow!

    The bible speaks of refined Gold and Silver, and I'm like just happy enough to get to refined Iron...

    Cheers!

    ๐ŸฆŠ๐Ÿพ ❤️

    Jack Nichols - Foxman on the Wall Blog

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    1. Maybe some clarification of what I was trying to say is that I see Prophecy as "It is given to us, so that when we see it happen, we will trust Him all the more, and others will believe."

      Therein lies the tense... When we see it (present tense), not future tense, for "I told you so's" or predictions.

      I was excited by the prospect once of being able to do such things. I had to remember it was not about me. :)

      Now, this is not a condemnation of anyone, and indeed we all have to study and search the Word to know the Word. But it's the intent of the heart that can trip us up so fast in even one heart beat.

      ;)

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    2. JackN Foxman On The Wall

      I can appreciate your sentiment regarding Prophecy burnout. At time, we are Christians, especially in the West can be very gullible at times to our own determent and tarnishing of our personal testimony and that of Jesus’. At the end of the day, as they say, or rather at the end of the Church Age Commission, it is all about the Gospel.

      And as we know, the ‘Aim and reason for Prophecy is to testify about Jesus’. -Revelation 19:10. And as we also know, the Gospel message is at the core, 100% Prophecy. It is about what happened, is happening and will happen, at least if one can see that in that context or frame of mind.

      You bring up a very important perspective in that, if this is the ‘Last Generation’, i.e., the Fig Tree one, how are we doing with Prophecy that has been entrusted to us, those especially that have an emphasis in our testimony or endeavor? Are we faithful to the calling of the Great Commission despite its abuse and misuse by those well-meaning and those not so-well-meaning?

      If there is anything to be learned from all the negative aspects about capitalizing and how others sensationalism Prophecy, is to be that faithful witness to the contrary. watching on the wall, figuratively speaking is a very lonely, isolated, contested ‘job’ or post. You get attacked by those outside and then from those that are inside, lol. How ‘lonely’ is this Commission for some? Consider this chart that I complied below a few years ago about a survey of the Church in the USA of who believes in the Bible. It is daunting. LORD help us as we owe it to Jesus foremost, but to all those that watched before us until this last chapter of the Church Age.

      APOSTASY OF THE PROTESTANTS
      https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-OB3RLpBa2rj5MpIsuunulPHj-DTEpZj/view?usp=drive_link

      Keep the Watch,
      Lu Vega

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    3. Job Description
      of a Believer and Follower of Jesus.

      1. Can you hold a trowel and a sword?
      2. No experience necessary.
      3. Jesus does not call the qualified, He qualifies the Called...

      At the Bema Seat of Christ, one could well imagine that Jesus will not ask us:

      -Did you figure out the Rapture's timing?
      -Did you crack the code of Daniel's 70th Week?
      -Did you find out who the AntiCrist was?
      -Was the Tribulation Period 7 years or 3.5 years?
      -Were there Alien bases on Mars?
      -Did I die in 32 AD or 33 AD?
      -Was the 3 hours of darkness because of Planet X?

      No. Jesus is going to ask us:

      -Did you go and make disciples of men?
      -Did you baptize them?
      -Did you teach them about Me?
      -Do you know Me?
      -Do you love Me?

      So, we have a job to do, a Royal Commission as we are the ones that will be privileged to see the Church Age close-out, perhaps. Thus, we must be about the Father's Business and that means to be like the men that during the return of the Exiles from Babylon, Ezra and Nehemiah stationed the Watchmen with a trowel on 1 hand and a sword in the other.

      We just need to keep exercising our Gospel ambidextrous muscles. ;)

      Blessings,
      Lu Vega

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    4. yeah, that chart is pretty stark. ;)

      I'm reminded of "Narrow is the way, and few who find it" and also "When the Son of Man comes, will He find faith in the world?" Perhaps a Rhetorical Question, but yeah...

      - - -

      And those that do make it, for they have to make it to be even able to be there, the BEMA seems to be about those who submitted to the will of God allowing Him to work through them, and those who squandered opportunities and lost possibilities.

      Works of the self - Wood, Hay, and Stubble
      Works of Christ through them - Gold, Silver, and Precious Jewels

      All standing there saved (as by fire) by Grace and Mercy, all Justified permanently by Faith alone.

      - - -

      "And as we know, the ‘Aim and reason for Prophecy is to testify about Jesus’. -Revelation 19:10. And as we also know, the Gospel message is at the core, 100% Prophecy. It is about what happened, is happening and will happen, at least if one can see that in that context or frame of mind."

      Yes, very true. For those of us stuck on the line of time (or some say the rim of the circle of time) we see things in Past, Present, or Future tense, while God is at the center (apex) and sees all as present tense.

      You effectively can really say that the whole Bible is Prophecy from start to finish in that state, and not just 1/3. The differences are subtle to us, but nonexistent really, and are only based on the context and more importantly, the tense from our point of view.
      - - -

      Grace and peace to you, and all of us here. :)

      ๐ŸฆŠ๐Ÿพ ❤️

      Jack Nichols - Foxman on the Wall Blog

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    5. The Job Description questions in the first part made me chuckle... :D

      And the gentle reminder about Prophecy being a witness to Christ was a comfort. Thank you. ;)

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  20. So true about what JackN posted about distractions these days and the importance to take time to be quiet before the Lord.

    In the midst of this ever-darkening storm we find ourselves in, I met with the Lord in the secret place this morning and was filled with such thankfulness and comfort as one being held in the palm of His powerful hands. As our fellowship continued while I sat by the open window of our little Hobbit house, at one point I heard, "You are living the last chapter of your book, Lyn."
    May this short share bless you all today:
    Last Chapter of My Life?

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  21. Jack, oh my goodness, this just leapt off the page at me: "Therein lies the tense... When we see it (present tense), not future tense, " Honest to grandmother, how often do we read scripture and just blow right on by the things we think we know already. Of course: PRESENT TENSE. And we sure see plenty of present tense prophecy marching across the news before us. But trying to "predict" the rapture? We have found how futile that is since 2017 especially. Like you, I'm not reading/following "every single high watch projection" out there on youtube anymore. Why? They've all been wrong. No more rapture predictions disguised as "high watch days." Now I AM NOT criticizing or demeaning anyone who does! I just am too weary to go there anymore. The Word is our more sure word of prophecy, and with all the deception--good grief we can't even know if any video on social media (e.g. Telegram) or broadcast news is even legitimate--the Word itself is the best place to park while we watch as spectators the most incredible revealing of present tense prophecy in all history.

    This site and rev12daily are my go-to's but that's about it. Lyn and Corey and Greg L included, of course.

    Now, I'm off to read Lyn's recent post.



    I still follow our faithfuls on rev12daily and here at unsealed, but for the rest not so much . . . .

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  22. RE: Is the Tribulation Period 7 Years of 3.5 Years?

    Speaking about figuring out Prophecy, here below are some links into the research inspired by a question from Carole over at the Revelation 12 Daily ‘Romber Room’. ;0

    The question was posed, ‘Is the Tribulation Period 7 years of 3.5 years?’ We have discussed this topic before, but I wanted to share it here as well, if all do not mind. It is based on my theory and interpretation and by no means is one saying this is the ‘right’ one.

    One is just offering one’s perspective and contribution to the discussion. So, for your discernment. I will include the links to the YouTube video that presents the A.I. synopsis of the article. I will also include the link to the chart to study this ‘prophetic dichotomy’ I am presenting. And lastly, the link to the article itself will be posted that will delve into the philosophy, rationale and details.

    See if it makes any sense?
    Lu Vega
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    YouTube video
    A216: TRIBULATION PERIOD - INFLECTION POINT
    Is it 7 Years of 3.5 Years?
    https://youtu.be/WuF5gptZojE

    Chart

    A216: TRIBULATION PERIOD - INFLECTION POINT
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j5x3TdUh3sJDEPkCU_S1qreZogRx1WZh/view?usp=drive_link

    Article
    A216: TRIBULATION PERIOD - INFLECTION POINT
    by Luis B. Vega
    https://postscripts.org/articles/f/a216-tribulation-period-inflection-point

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  23. Regarding the comments this week, they are so "right on target" and reflect my thoughts as well. The timing of your comments are incredible. THANK YOU! I don't share that often here or on Rev12daily but typically read the comments daily. You/we are family. While hopeful for 2026, there is still a lot of work to be done. Jon (Austin TX)

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  24. Something I learnt from my pastor not too long ago -- the church IS 'Spiritual Israel'. I am against replacement theology of course, and the church ( and USA) is definitely not a new physical Israel. However, physical Israel is a type and shadow of the church (which is Spiritual Israel). After all, the church is the true seed of Abraham through Christ.
    God also made a covenant of Grace with Abraham that still stands today for the benefit of his seed.

    “By Myself I have sworn, declares the LORD, that because you have done this and have not withheld your only son, 17I will surely bless you, and I will multiply your descendants like the stars in the sky and the sand on the seashore. Your descendants will possess the gates of their enemies. 18And through your offspring all nations of the earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice."

    Galatians 3:16 - "Even a human covenant, once it is ratified, cannot be canceled or amended. 16 The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say, “and to seeds,” meaning many, but “and to your seed,” meaning One, who is Christ. 17What I mean is this: The law that came 430 years later does not revoke the covenant previously established by God, so as to nullify the promise.…"

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  25. "And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise. " Galatians 3:29

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  26. Just read the whole of Galatians 3 ; )

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  27. RE: The Great Reset War

    Stan and Unsealed Fam,
    I was reminded of you as compiled this latest video on mine. As a Political Scientist by degree, here is my assessment of the latest Middle East War and its possible geo-political, economic and religious impact. As one who also seeks to discern and filter such events in light of the End Times, it has a layer of examination in the discourse.

    It is not anything new that we have not discussed or known about already. It involves the ‘usual suspects’. You can skip to the last portion where I make a comparison of how America looked like during the Great Depression compared to now in terms of the coming Financial Collapse, it will be a dire situation for most, perhaps. I think you will say, ‘Ah ha! See. Told you so’. ;0

    Keep the Watch,
    Luis B. Vega
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    YouTube video

    GREAT RESET WAR
    https://youtu.be/Xoo9l3mPyYs

    Article

    A217: THE GREAT RESET WAR
    MIDDLE EAST CONFLICT
    And the coming New World Order
    https://postscripts.org/articles/f/a217-the-great-reset-war

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    1. Good video Lu and a good use of AI for production. Question, have you considered that it's the destruction of Babylon the great by limited nuclear warfare that compresses society and forces alignment with the beast system? The potential impact of Apophis, in what my model indicates as a first half of the 70th week, would further push society into alignment with the beast system.

      By my current model that would be,

      1. Harpazo-level event on October 6/7, 2026
      2. Destruction of Babylon the great on November 11, 2026
      3. Impactor-event (likely Apophis) on April 13, 2029

      The harpazo appears coupled to the arrival of the two witnesses. If not on that day then with 30 days of that event. This keeps their ministry aligned with the AoD midpoint. War against, and destruction of, Babylon the great may be seen being initiated in (Revelation 8:1-5). The seven trumpets would therefore open with the destruction of Babylon the great on 11/11/26. The impactor-event of the second trumpet (perhaps Apophis) on April 13, 2029 is exactly 370 days from the AoD. Remember, 370 is the number of days that Noah was inside the Ark.

      Nested between the destruction of Babylon the great and the arrival of Apophis is the completion of the third temple on June 14/15, 2027, which so happens to be Tekufah Tammuz on the Essene calendar. This date is calculated using (Daniel 8:13-14) with the rightful state of the temple being restored at the return of glorious Second Coming of Christ the King at the opening of the Millennial Kingdom, Yom Kippur, 2033 (Essene) or September 29/30, 2033.

      Yeah, it's been a minute since I've been seen here. Much family business at hand with the passing of my mother on Wednesday, March 11. All glory to God in heaven that she is finally at peace.

      All eyes on Jesus, all hope in Christ!


      PR

      Some data-points for anyone interested coming from my latest calendar model study for 2026.

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    2. RE: The Destruction of Babylon? Which One? :0
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      Greetings Pastor Rich,
      This will be a lengthy reply, sorry. ;) But thanks for allowing me to voice my research and suppositions, as that is what it will only be. I am presuming you mean the USA to be Babylon the Great? And that it will or very well could be destroyed by a limited nuclear warfare? And by doing so, will it force the entire USA to capitulate to the New Economic World Order? And as to the possible timing, pegged to the Apophis Asteroid predicted to impact Earth on Friday, April 13, 2029?

      Thanks for the video compliment and sharing your pot-Rapture Tribulation Period model. Since you asked, I will only offer my understanding from one’s point of view. It might sound and come across as ‘dogmatic’, but it is only based on my conviction about it, as one best has come to understand it. It is all based on circumstantial evidence, conjecture and thus, one is not saying one is ‘right, at all.

      If your model pans out? Great! If the Rapture occurs this Passover? Great! We cannot wait. Or if it is in October? One would hope so…But. Here it goes. I will start from the top and attempt to explain the nuances and/or variables that must be considered or have or have not.

      1. WHICH BABYLON?
      One is convinced that there are at least 3 prophetic iterations alluded to in Revelation.

      A) There is the literal city that still is standing in Iraq, just southwest of Baghdad.
      B) There is the Religious Babylon that has martyred the Saints and persecuted many.
      C) Then there is the Economic Babylon that has made the Merchants of the world rich.

      2. BABYLON TO BE REBUILT?
      There are 4 major theories of what and who is presently ‘Babylon’ and will be.

      -Babylon in Iraq.
      -Vatican in Rome.
      -New York in the USA.
      -Mecca in Arabia.

      What is key and what is described in the Book of Revelation is how the Merchants of the world ascribe to her all that one would be convinced is presently attributed to the New York City in particular and thus the USA in general. Why? New York City has at her ‘Gate’ to the USA the statue of the Whore of Babylon. Consider that the French Masons originally had designed this synthesis of Isis and Apollo to be holding a cup.

      Note that the Merchants stand ‘afar’ and cry over her, a city and economy as being the place of world commerce and where their cargo ships docked to trade, even the souls of humans, as in Human Trafficking, etc. Then also consider this fact. Having the Merchants of the world lament from ‘Far off’ the coast typically means being beyond the territorial sea, generally considered to be at the 12 nautical mile marker. This is 13.8 miles/22km from shore.

      At this point, a vessel is at the International Waters (High Seas) or at a country's contiguous zone, leaving behind the immediate jurisdiction of a nation's coast. One is thus convinced that New York City is the motif and euphemism described in the Book of Revelation. It is, in so far as it is the ‘Economic Babylon’ that never existed until modern times and it was to be and is presently, but not for long.

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      One’s point is that this topographical and maritime designation would be impossible for the physical Babylon that is situated on the Euphrates River to fulfill the prophetic requirement. As it is, the River is being silted-up and drying-up. No high sea maritime cargo vessels can go up the Euphrates river. All this goes for Mecca as well.

      Mecca is located approximately 70 kilometers or about 43 to 45 miles inland east of the Red Sea coast. The city is nestled in a narrow valley, with the port city of Jeddah serving as the closest major coastal point on the Red Sea. So, this is why I would dismiss the literal city of present-day city of Babylon and Mecca. Now, as to the Vatican? Vatican City is a landlocked enclave within Rome, Italy. It is located approximately 15–16 miles (24–26 km) east of the Tyrrhenian Sea coast.

      While it is surrounded by Rome, the closest beach access at Ostia is about a 30-minute train ride from central Rome. However, one is convinced that in terms of Religious Babylon, it has been the apostate and usurper Roman Church that thinks it is the Vicar of Christ Jesus, and its Bishop speaks Ex Cathedra or from the Throne, etc. Its distinguishing topographical markers are the 7 hills on which she sits. But note that its counterpart capital, Constantinople, also sits on 7 hills. This is consistent in how Rome split into 2 portions, the Western and Eastern Roman Empires, etc.

      3) WHAT ABOUT THE TIMING OF THE TRIBULATION PEGGED TO APOPHIS?
      We have discussed this factor before and I have presented my case as to why I am not convinced as to its voracity and impact. It is because, based on the current statistics, the Apophis Asteroid is only slightly taller than the Empire State Building, measuring approximately 340 to 450 meters (1,100 to 1,500 feet) across its longest axis.

      I find it ‘impossible’ that this Apophis Asteroid is what is to kill or poison billions all over the globe due to its impact. And consider that an Asteroid is losing mass, not gaining it. Meaning that it will be smaller on arrival. It is only a ‘City Killer’ at best. Say, if 1 million people died at its impact on New York City? That is less than the proverbial ‘drop in the bucket’ compared to billions of people that will need to be affected by it, as described in the Book of Revelation.

      Also, consider that NASA has changed the timing of its impact, and that it is no longer occurring on that Friday the 13th in 2029. I do admit that ‘Something Biblical’ is going on with its name, date and attributions. I also did give it some stock in that my prior Fall 2025 to Fall 2032 Tribulation Timeline had 2029 right in the middle. It is also when the Revelation 12 Sign, approximately reconfigures again astronomically. I have since moved from that timeline to a Fall 2026 to Fall 2033 Tribulation, but by the process of elimination. Perhaps Apophis could be a prelude of sorts?

      4) WHAT ABOUT THE DESTRUCTION OF THE ‘USA”?
      That date of November 11, 2026, going nuclear for the USA is timely in that it coincides with the cessation of war for World War 1 at 11am, local time. But then I wonder about the Prophecies of George Washington. See video collage here.

      YouTube Video

      A99: GEORGE WASHINGTON
      WHAT ARE THE PROPHECIES?
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JBk4he7vNw

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      It would only take 50 nuclear bombs to kill-off about 90% of the U.S. total population. And consider that combined with the USA and Russia alone, there are over 10,000 warheads yet to account for. But here is my take. The Ezekiel Prophecy about the ‘those that dwell carelessly on the coast-lands’, will experience the ‘fire’ of the Gog-Magog wrath of YHVH, could very well be the eastern seaboard of the USA. See chart for a visual.

      NUCLEAR DETONATIONS
      USA
      https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oojV0ZthsH090MYIs1IIFD-ccn83_ntv/view?usp=drive_link

      But as I am also convinced, at this point in time, the Gog-Magog War will occur sometime during the 7-year Tribulation Period. And? So, this means that a nuclear strike against the USA does not compute in this scenario of mine to occur this Fall. Also consider that China and Bill Gates that have nearly bought-up all the farmland in the USA, do not want it radiated during their post-Rapture dystopian New Luciferian World Order by which they will feed off of.

      5) THE 2 WITNESSES?
      Respectfully, the Gospel ‘hand-off’, one is convinced will 1st occur, not with the 2 Witnesses but with the 144,000 Jewish Evangelists. It is they that will then pass the Gospel ‘baton’ to the 2 Witnesses for the 2nd half of the 7-year Tribulation Period. Again, this is just my interpretation as I see and understand it. I am not asking anyone to believe this timeline scenario.

      6) COMPLETION OF THE 3RD TEMPLE?
      You have a timeline of June 14-15, 2027. I only offer my theory as shared before. Here is the rationale. The entire prophecy of Daniel is contingent of the Daily Sacrifices. It is when they are stopped that is dully noted in both the Old and New Testaments. And this cessation delineates a ‘half’ or midst of 2 equal parts then by definition. In the prior video study of the inflection point, I tried to synthesize and synchronize that theory.

      My point is that the start of the Tribulation Period must commence on that 1st offering of the Daily Sacrifice. For that to occur, the Altar of Sacrifice must not only be already built, but previously sanctioned and made kosher by the ashes of the Red Heifer. Otherwise, no offering made by the Priests or any Jew will be considered ‘clean’ and their Daily Sacrifices acceptable, etc. Thus, after the Rapture, the construction of the 3rd Temple will be only a matter of placing the blocks together. It will be like a Lego Set. The building blocks are already done. See this video about it, if so interested in doing so.

      A162: 3RD TEMPLE STONES
      https://youtu.be/iZVU4ba4Y60

      So, my point is that the 3rd Temple must be built or at least dedicated to coinciding with that 1st Daily Sacrifice Offering. This act is what then starts with the 2520-day count and the 1260th day midpoint. Then from there, the subsequent 1260 days will lead-up to the return of Jesus. This is, of course, my timeline as presented before. Meaning that it is in the Fall that this event must occur to have the Fall 2026 to Fall 2033 Tribulation Timeline pan-out.

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      7) THE HARPAZO IN OCTOBER?
      Perhaps, but you all know about my Rapture New Wine Pentecost Theory already. I am still convinced that we are in that Pentecostal intermission called the Church Age, as many do. But that the timing and what ‘Pentecost’ means and is referring to has been deliberately obfuscated to confuse the issue. As you may know, one is convinced that there are 3 ‘Pentecost’s’ or Shavuot’s. The Jewish word just means a number of a set of 7.

      In this case, it was a count for determining the First Fruits Feasts of the New Wheat, New Wine and New Oil, etc. One is of the interpretation that the 2nd Pentecost or Shavuot on the 99th Day from Nisan 15, which is the Day after the High Day Sabbath, which Passover technically is, is when that Acts 2 Pentecost event occurred. And that day coincided with the Feast of the First Fruit of the New Wine. It corresponds to another Mountain, Sinai where 3000 Rebels died and in Mount Moriah, were 3000 got redeemed and saved as a First Fruit of the entire Church Age that was initiated there and then.

      That is why the Acts 2 Pentecost event had a Nation’s theme as the Gospel was and is being taken to the Nations. This Church Age corresponds to 2 Prophetic Days, all-inclusive of the last Sabbath of Years or that 70th Prophetic Week of Daniel. It will transpire in tandem as the Church Age, mostly Gentile Bride will be ushered-up, to Heaven into the Father’s House for the Wedding of His Son, etc.

      So, based on this alternative interpretation of mine, July 23 is the Leo New Year, which marks the end of the Wheat Harvest, i.e., Boaz and Ruth. It is when the Lions Gate opens and the bodies of the dead are resurrected, according to ancient Egyptian folklore. So, all that to say that my highest Rapture Watch Day, in any given year, is always July 23. Prophetically, the Church started in this 4th Feast of the 7, if one correlates them to the Menorah pattern that bridged the Spring and Fall Feasts of YHVH. The Fall Feast, one is also convinced, will be prophetically fulfilled by Jesus at his 2nd coming, which will correspond to the Feast of Trumpets. Here is a chart for a visual.

      THE 3 PENTECOST FEASTS OF SUMMER
      https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vg9jfASf-G4u-eu91yWtkkGSPHq_t6Ux/view?usp=drive_link
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      Pastor Rich, I am so sorry to hear about your Mother’s passing. May the LORD Jesus greatly comfort you as we will he hopefully soon be all reunited in Glory and with our promised Glorified Bodies. If 2026 is the year of the Rapture, one can see why. This latest war with Iran is different. It is really their ‘COVID 2.0’. By this summer, if things continue in their trajectory, one will not be surprised if gasoline will be at least $10 Dollars in the USA if not up to $30 in some places. There will be Food and Fuel riots that will then justify lock-downs again and working remotely, as planned perhaps.

      And with the cutting off fertilizer and oil to the East, food prices will triple in cost, at least. The Globalists want food to cost a whole day’s wage. Remember all those food processing plants were burnt to the ground after COVID. And COVID was to have only lasted 14 days. Problem-Reaction-Solution.

      Keep the Watch,
      Lu Vega
      Psalm 27

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    6. Thank you, Lu, for sharing,

      As I read, I'm checking certain facts to be sure we're on the same page. One such item is the arrival date of Apophis and expected impact should it strike the Earth. Thus far, I can only find NASA stating that it will arrive on 4/13/29. NASA also places the size of the asteroid comparable to the height of the Eifel Tower. Other sources place an impact event somewhere about the 1,000-1,200 MT range or 1-1.2 Gigatons. That's getting close to the total yield of all the world's nuclear arsenals combined which is estimated at approximately 1.5 GT.

      Of the two witnesses, I don't see a parity between them and the 144,000. The 144.000 are evangelists while the witnesses are just that. Witnesses. God's word bears witness through prophetic Scripture. They will be in a position to bear witness to God's word and as it comes to pass confirm the word of two or three witnesses to establish a matter. In this light, the trumpets appear as confirmation of these witnesses and the bowls the consequence being God's wrath poured out.

      The red heifers are absolutely critical to the function of the coming temple and Shiloh has been quiet about them lately. There is much conflict in reporting, but as of late 2025 the Temple Institute has said that two animals remain as candidate.

      Thank you for taking the time to fashion your response. I too appreciate the strengths of a Pentecost harpazo, but over the years came back to a fall event. Just a product of my studies and where I have been led in Scripture. Soon, we'll all know. Thank you too for your encouragement concerning my mother's passing.

      The Joy of the LORD gives me strength.

      I continue to pray that we are iron sharpening iron. My studies were started in a quest to see if prophetic dates and day counts can be aligned to human calendars. The answer I've come to is, "Yes".

      Please do share links to reports that show NASA changed the date to the arrival of Apophis. I haven't found one thus far. Here's what I see so far from NASA. I'm not dogmatic on a strike on that day. I'm confident that Apophis is NOT Wormwood and it's certainly NOT a midpoint event. All respect to Tom Horn, but even he said that Apophis didn't equal Wormwood in the vision. Of any candidate trumpet level event, the second trumpet is where I believe such an impact appears to best fit. It may be, and likely is, an unforeseen impactor that fulfills that second call of the trumpet.

      Taking a closer look at your media next.

      Thanks, brother!


      PR

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  28. For those interested, I FINALLY completed my DISCLOSURE article--it is definitely one of my weirdest articles ever!
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    The Weird Reason Why the Euphrates River and Alien Disclosure are Connected

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  29. PR,

    To add to your Rapture 2026 timeline, I will point out, again, that if you subtract 1260 days from Apophis, you will land on the week of international release and general acceptance of the Trump Peace Plan for Gaza. You know, the one that the US Ambassador referred to as a "covenant." And the one released on the weekend of 9/27 and running in parallel with Daniel 9:27.

    I don't think that's inconsequential.

    And I don't see a good reason why the Rapture can't happen after the 7 years begin . . . as long as it occurs before the real WRATH starts. I stand by that possibility because no one has yet shown that it's NOT possible. And I depend on the Bible to specify that, rather than the interpretations of men and models.

    There are so many interesting "coincidences " regarding Apophis. Take for example the fact that it's NASA prescribed trajectory has it passing south of the Middle East in the dark of night, and then entering US airspace in the early morning daylight. Following the paradigm of lunar signs for the Jews, and solar signs for Gentiles if you will.

    And the fact that it's reaching it's lowest altitude and most gravitationally dangerous point as it approaches the East coast of the US? Seems a lot more than noteworthy, given the large X drawn over the US by the eclipses, and the fact that the path appears to cross exactly over the center of the X.

    This weekend, I spent 13 hours volunteering for a high school color guard championship on Saturday, and another 9 hours volunteering for a high school indoor percussion championship on Sunday. And you wouldn't believe how dark and demonic many of the shows have become. Death and deception are running amok.

    I saw hundreds of faces covered in death masks and grim reaper robes and blood and the tools of witchcraft and devil horn gestures. But Jesus isn't allowed on the property.

    Very few are watching for the return of the king. They call themselves Christians, but they're "twerking" and clapping for the dance groups acting lewdly for the middle school kids.

    I'm tired and disgusted. And ready.

    Jeremy

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    1. Jeremy,

      Not easy occupying in these times. Nope. Not easy.

      Thanks for the reminder on the 1,260 days. Will double-check that and note it on the current model.

      Regarding models, if I may, the dates provided above are based on how Scripture aligns with dates on the calendar. In this case it's how (Joel 2:15-16) aligns with the eighth day on the Essene calendar...and how that fits precisely with the end, which would be an Essene date not a Pharasitical date. It's not taking stabs in the dark, I'm digging and hoping to find treasure.

      As for why October 6/7 -- it's all about Joel,

      15 Blow the trumpet in Zion;
      consecrate a fast;
      call a solemn assembly;

      16 gather the people.
      Consecrate the congregation;
      assemble the elders;
      gather the children, even the
      nursing infants. Let the
      bridegroom leave his room,
      and the bride her chamber.


      So what of October 6/7th this year? It's the Great Day on the Essene calendar. The eighth day and appointed time according to (Leviticus 23:39). Digging on that day brought some interesting results. The test will come when the day comes. If we're still here then we have more time to watch, work and witness. If not, then you're invited to my place for Kingdom cake sooner than later!

      All eyes on Jesus, all hope in Christ,


      PR

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    2. Help me out with some dates if you will, Jeremy. I have it that the Board of Peace was officially proposed on Monday, September 29, 2025. Day count to arrival of Apophis doesn't align with your comment (perhaps a typo). When news of the agreement being made broke in the news; I noted it in the model. That date produces some very interesting day counts that hit, Purim, Pesach and Shavuot as well as the Great Day.

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      Jeremy,
      May I comment on your comment, lol. It is true that nowhere in the bible does it state emphatically that the Rapture event cannot occur after the 70th Week of Years per the Prophecy of Daniel. We are only given glimpses and clues and intermittent timelines to grapple with. But it is enough to make sense of the puzzle pieces with deductive reason and logic and of course Holy Spirit led discernment. At least one would hope so.

      ‘And I don't see a good reason why the Rapture can't happen after the 7 years begin . . . as long as it occurs before the real WRATH starts. I stand by that possibility because no one has yet shown that it's NOT possible. And I depend on the Bible to specify that, rather than the interpretations of men and models’.

      Here is why I am convinced the Bride of Christ will not step over that 70th Week of Years, not 1 second over. Yes, it will be my interpretation and model of what I believe I have pieced together, thus far. That is all one can offer and why I utilize charts to help see the patterns and such to help.

      1. The 70th Week of Years pertains to what Israel still owes YHVH for not keeping the Land Sabbaths, all 70 of them.

      2. The Prophecy of Daniel is a 7-fold judgment that pertains, at the core, to 3 main factors: the Promised Land, Jerusalem and the Temple. The Bride of Christ does not possess that Covenant, but the New one.

      3. The Bride of Christ is an extraction from and a grafting into the Commonwealth of Israel or the stump that has been cut off temporarily. Once that last Gentile is saved, YHVH will see to it, to collect that last Sabbath Week of years that the Bride has no business with. She has been promised a 'Better Covenant'. A better Land, a better City not made by human hands and a Temple that is Jesus Himself in so much as she has been built as one to be. This has been the purpose of the Church Age. Once the Pentecostal intermission in-between Week 69 and 70 is concluded with that last human 'brick' in the wall, the Church Age has no purpose, meaning or reason to spill into what then YHVH will deal with unfaithful Israel that He had divorced.

      4. Already, the buds of YHVH's 'wayward wife' have blossomed and matured since 1948. Israel reached a maturity milestone in 2018, being the 70th Year Anniversary. This is to suggest that Israel has ‘matured’ and is ready not to go into the 70th Week. This overlap of the Church Age, along with Israel is as it began. As Israel was taken out then, so too now the Church Age Believers, i.e., the Church Age Pentecostal intermission will come to its conclusion.

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      5. A Commission, as in the Military has its commissioning day and its day of what is called 'Separation'. All Commissions are allotted an end date. Thus, if one likens it to the Royal Commission of the Church, There is no ‘Double Jeopardy’ to have the Church Age Believers and Followers of Jesus suffer and must ‘pay’ for what Israel owes, not the Bride. Jesus paid it all in full at the Cross. It is finished.

      Nothing is owed. To have the Bride of Christ cross over into what Israel owes as judgment/wrath is to have Jesus break His promise to come for His Bride as promised at this Last Supper observation. As the Commissioning during the Tribulation will fall on the 144,000 Jewish Evangelists, there would be no point to still have the Church Age Witness overlap. It would mean that the Church Age had not fulfilled her Royal Commission and was found wanting.
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      I made a video about this to put this in perspective as one sees it. As you rightly say, there is nothing that precludes the Rapture from occurring well into the Tribulation Period, so long as it is not when the Wrath Starts? Which one? Satan’s’ or the Lamb’s? One is convinced that the entire 7-year span of that last Shemitah is Wrath.

      It is all-including the opening-up of the 1st seal. Why the Bride of Christ cannot be here to see the AntiChrist is that it is also contingent upon the timing of how the Temple must be rebuilt so that the AntiChrist, like a Solomon 2.0, will rededicate the Temple with the commencement of the Daily Sacrifices. And?

      That is when the 2520-day count starts the Tribulation Period. But the 1st Seal that is broken is the revelation of the AntiChrist. And one is of the interpretation that the Bride of Chris is who will have to be present, as the Star Witness in the defense, to see the Lamb, as it was slain, Jesus takes that scroll, as if a Last Will and Testament is being read in that heavenly Judicial Court. Amazingly, He is the Executor, the Beneficiary of that judgment made.

      YouTube video

      A218 BIRTHRIGHT PROMISES
      https://youtu.be/puoeHYffXAI

      And that 1st Seal is the revealing of the AntiChrist White Horse Rider. If the Church Age Followers and Believers of Jesus get to see who then the AntiChrist will be, it negates the Scriptures in how it is only after the Rapture with the setting aside of the Restrainer, i.e., the Holy Spirit that the Lawless One will be revealed. I am also of the interpretation that the very chapters of the 22 chapters of Revelation were inspired.

      And if so, note that the 4th chapter is when the Door to Heaven is open and the command of the Angel is to ‘Come Up’. And from that time-frame going forward, of what must come thereafter, the Church Age Bride is no longer mentioned except at the end when she and the Holy Spirit, in unison, as one, proclaim the invitation to whosoever will, to come. Here is a visual chart that I have shared before for a reminder to consider.

      Chart

      THE BOOK OF REVELATION
      Alef-Bet Pattern
      https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_mC6ImkTdFtvTQzNXAv7jwCDR6vsrPiW/view?usp=drive_link

      Blessings,
      Lu Vega

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  31. PR and Lu,

    I hope you're both well.

    PR, I'm also sorry about your mom. Mine just had a stent put in, and it really drives mortality home.

    Regarding your question on the peace plan timing, it was obvious that Trump was playing a pretty standard government and business game of releasing key plan details after the close of markets and workplaces on Friday night.

    What started as a release of an almost-finished 21-point plan between negotiating interlocutors, on Friday night, then became a finalized 20-point outline on Saturday the 27th. Many details were being bandied by then. And nothing was to be talked about on the 28th apart from news networks running the story and "latest updates."

    Officially, nothing was to be recognized in public until Monday the 29th, but the necessary parties were in agreement on the 27th.

    I will include a few news-related snapshots of the weekend as it transpired.

    For the record, I acknowledge my error of referencing a 1260-day duration between the peace plan and the asteroid. I meant to reference the 1290 count . . . which, of course, will only light up the discussion board with more conflict about who believes which day count ought to fall where. Personally, I'm beyond arguing with those whose mental jello has already firmed up too much on prophecy. Most folks here don't seem to have that problem because we all want the truth, and few of us claim to have it already on hand.

    For the record, I did say that the day count pointed only to the "week" of the Peace Plan for that reason. Technically speaking, it's 1290 days between Apophis and October 1st, 2025. But given the fluid nature of global negotiation, it's hard to say who might be teleconferencing and airing out grievances or agreements on Zoom nowadays. LOL

    Lu, I greatly appreciate your enthusiasm and input as well. And I'm not saying that I can't understand your views or come to agreement on a large percentage. I would rather say it this way . . . that the Bible is entirely too full of echoes and shadows of prophecy for me to feel comfortable imposing limitations on what is possible.

    I am NOT interested in laying claim to what I think WILL happen, but rather I am entirely concerned with pointing out what is STATISTICALLY possible . . . and which of those possibilities is growing in probability.

    The odds that the world's most significant peace plan in history would partition Israel and then fall almost exactly 1290 days before a mid-point Trib event candidate? I think we all know how impressive that is.

    I'd also like to make mention of the argument made against the size of Apophis. The Bible does not say that millions or billions would die from Wormwood. As a matter of fact, the first trumpet burns up a third of the earth and trees. The second trumpet wrecks a third of the seas, sea creatures, and ships. And the third trumpet turns a third of the waters bitter. And "many people" died from these waters. And then the fourth trumpet strikes darkness over the third part of the sun, moon, and stars.

    Three points to be made here:

    First, that the western hemisphere of the Americas is about 1/3 of the earth's landmass.

    Second, that a "small" city-killer asteroid has the power to accomplish all of these after impact. We are talking about second and third stage effects of impact at this point. Debris and politics and planetary nuclear defense and tsunamis and a hundred other real and significant phenomena at work.

    And third, it is EXACTLY that kind of unprecedented historic and destructive event that ushers in the next statement in Revelation . . .

    "As I watched I heard an eagle that was flying in midair call out in a loud voice: 'Woe! Woe! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth, because of the trumpet blasts about to be sounded by the other three angels!"

    If you really want to play guessing games, though, it kind of makes you wonder if it's not Air Force One, or the USA's "doomsday" plane, making that "eagle's" cry. Just saying!

    That's probably a long enough post for now. Sorry

    Jeremy

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    1. Thank you, Jeremy. I'll be lifting you and your mom in prayer.

      The three woes have been in my sights as well! The arrival of Apollyon is focal point to my current studies. I cannot help but seen a potential connection between the smoke that rises out of the pit with the OT concept that smoke rises, thins out and disappears. It's a picture of briefness and fragility. (Psalm 37:20) comes to mind too,

      20 But the wicked will perish;
      the enemies of the LORD are
      like the glory of the pastures;
      they vanish -- like smoke they
      vanish away.


      Much more study to be done though...


      PR

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  32. (Let me add the obvious as well. The Bible does not say that Wormwood happens on the exact day of the midpoint Trib. So I think we're often adding split ends to the massive hairball in front of us.)

    https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/trump-says-gaza-deal-near-hostages-could-soon-be-freed-2025-09-26/

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/27/middleeast/gaza-trump-peace-plan-detail-israel

    https://youtu.be/6QhNHU11ROY?si=xSCiD6EYohO6jwg7

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    1. RE: Apophis Asteroid

      Pastor Rich,
      Allow me to clarify the statement I made that NASA had changed the projected impact date. It is that NASA wanted to find an excuse to not have Apophis associated with a superstitious date of Friday the 13th. It was based on a conversation I heard being discussed. Nonetheless, NASA Scientists thus, subsequently embarked on recalibrating its trajectory to rule out an impact upon Earth as to quail any public anxiety about it. Not too many Asteroids have had so much attention and recalibrations of its trajectory scrutinized because of this.

      So, what NASA has come up with was that it definitely has publicly confirmed that based on its recalculations, presently, Apophis will not impact Earth. It has recalculated the flyby at a ‘safe’ distance of approximately 20,000 miles (32,000 kilometers) from Earth. Thus, NASA has ruled out the chance of its impact for at least 100 years. The next projected flyby is estimated to be in the year 2036. This is well beyond our current Tribulation Period models. Now if one takes NASA at its word, then we have nothing to worry about and Apophis is not the Wormwood or the other Asteroid that is to impact Earth, precisely as Revelation depicts and predicts.

      The source I was remembering by memory was that back in March of 2021, NASA's Center for Near-Earth Object Studies (CNEOS) was able to significantly reduce the uncertainty that the asteroid's orbit was not going to impact Earth and not occur on Friday, April 13, 2029, etc. Of course, it could be all ‘off’ and surprise! It will impact Earth. It is because in 2029, the asteroid will be closer than our Geostationary Satellites. And an anomaly of a sudden gravitational factor could pull in the Asteroid. So, there you have it. But the impact is what is then in dispute, as I surmised.

      Although you make a valid point that nowhere in the Bible does it say that ‘billions’ are going to die because of his possible Apophis Asteroid impact on Earth, the context in comparison to the rest of the Earth catastrophes are global in scale. So, my impression was/is that so too must this Apophis Asteroid then deliver, in one’s mind, that is all.

      Blessings as we continue to watch.
      Lu Vega

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