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Are Pastors Finally Starting To See?



It's taken several years of serious research and prodding from the Christian underground, but now that the day is approaching it looks like pastors across the nation are finally catching on and speaking out.  Whatever their motivations are, at least more people will hear about the incredible series of events happening this Fall.


Mark Biltz and Jim Bakker:



Mark Biltz and Paul Begley:



Troy Brewer from Open Door Church:



Chad Randall from LifeStory Church:



J.D. Farag:



Steve Cioccolanti:



Mark Correll:



Dr. Jerry Brandt:



I'll finish this off with a letter from a pastor who wrote to our friend Daniel Matson from WatchForTheDay.org:


Good morning Daniel,

Just wanted you to know what's happening out here in the battle field...

Since the Revelation 12 sign was revealed to me, I have been excited... excited that WE, of all people, would be here to see what generations upon generations have been eager to see... Naively, I had no idea in my head that there would be anything but joy at the revelation... I was concerned mostly about how I was going to get a hold of enough pastors to let them know - if they hadn't already - to prepare their flocks to discipleship and action in these remaining days for the sake of Christ. Since this was a revealed sign straight out of Scripture, it never crossed my mind that it would be ever taken by other pastors as heresy. Yes, I knew there might be some objections and they would need to be addressed, but I also understood that we are supposed to be a Christ-centered church bound in the uniting bond of perfect completeness with grace, kindness, gentleness, noble conduct being a part of our character in Him. I'm not generally a naive guy, but good grief, did I miss this one.

I had prayed that I would be able to reach enough pastors... and sheep as well.

About a month ago, a pastor whom I thought friendly, but had not had a chance to talk to yet about all this, turned me into the District office of whom I am a licensed minister as a "false teacher." They had got my comprehensive notes from my teaching to the church, obviously had not read them, but saw 23 September and accused me of date-setting.

I had a meeting with two top officials of the state district. I was only able to give a brief summary of the sign and it's context. One recognized a very vague possibility in the revelation, the other outright accused me of damaging the reputation of the church by date setting and so forth (no matter how often I calmly appealed to The Word as providing the date, it made no difference to this fellow). Not to go into details, but I am "under investigation" until I meet with the executive board - the "governors and kings" of the district - to explain the Rev. 12 sign to them the week the sign takes place.

I had asked God to help provide people to talk to about it and He nominated me of all people to talk to nine "governors"... just thought I'd share that with you from the trenches... it's been a tough time out here, thank God for my church family of watchman, or it would be tougher still.

I hope all is well and thanks for your recent work on the Days of Noah. Just want you to know that I'm praying for you and your family in these wild last days; our discipleship comes at a cost, of course, and it's certainly costing our family and I'm sure yours is not without that as well.

By His Grace, Pastor __________


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  1. So sad for the preacher in the trenches. I grew up a preacher's kid. I am familiar with the politics played by the so called governing bodies, that control churches, and the path of devestation that is left behind them. Thinking back on your recent article about legalist (without mercy and grace) and lawless (without faith)...it gives me cause for concern. The Saducees and Pharisees come to mind as well. I am praying for all the ministers that are in the trenches and ask that you join me.

    The Bridegroom is coming!!! The Bridegroom is coming!!!

    With the Love of Jesus...Your sister in Christ,
    Karen

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    1. Ephesians 5
      29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. 30 For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones. 31 “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

      Amen!

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    2. Karen in the words of Yeshua i pray, ''Father forgive them for they know not what they do.''

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    3. @tony/vt. Oh no, dear brother THEY KNOW EXACTLY what they do!! (Acts 7:54+57 / 1 John 2:19) Satan sends them for a purpose. May God deal with them quickly and give them the reward they deserve. Revelation 22:12!! MARANATHA

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    4. tony/vt.
      I understand the reason for your prayer...mercy and grace.

      I also understand Annabel's comment. From experience...I need to tell you they know exactly what they are doing. It is all about $$$$. So they MUST CONTROL and MANIPULATE the church body to acquire the $$$$. The Word tells us the love of money is the root of all evil. (1 Timothy 6:10).

      We are not wrestling with flesh and blood (Ephesians 6:12).

      With the Love of Jesus...Your sister in Christ,
      Karen

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    5. Oh boy Annabel,...1st thing i'd better do is look at the verses of scripture you shared....ok, in acts Stephen essentially says to God the same thing that Jesus said,to forgive them or, "to lay no charge upon them" and in 1st John well i couldn't see just what was what on this particular issue??? but do not the ones who crucified Christ as well as the ones stoning Stephen fall into the same category,...they were victims of deception, misunderstanding the reality of their choice to side w/ evil. Why would Jesus n Stephen say what they said to God the father? i asak you this sister with all due respect, sincerely. This is a heavy issue. Blessings Annabel

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    6. Hi Karen, maybe i am being misunderstood? you ask for others to pray for the ministers in the trenches and i agreed w/ you to pray for them as they are being misled. i ask our heavenly to forgive them for not being discerning enough to come out from the lie that the liars are feeding them. we are all seeing through glass darkly and i'm sure we all need this kind of prayer because we all have blind spots, in my opinion based upon my understanding. Grace n Peace,...Love n Understanding to us all*

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  2. Don't forget Perry Stone too. He started to teach about the cosmic signs long years ago:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4fJpP5anK8

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    1. Just finished watching PERRY STONES take on the Rev. 12 sign (It’s on his 2017 Louisville Conference DVD Album). To summarize, he seems to believe the celestial phenomenon is fascinating, and that it may be a marker in time for something that’s coming.

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    2. Perry Stone is a hoot! Loved listening to him and his southern accent.

      My high school friend is a Pastor and I asked him about his thoughts. "I don't chase end times speculation" was his answer. I would think more pastors would make their flock aware and get them to saving grace (if they aren't there already).

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  3. Here's Jonathan Cahn on the eclipse.
    https://youtu.be/SKC7SN3oo8g

    At the end of the video he tells us that he will soon be addressing the Revelation 12 Sign!

    Should be interesting!

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  4. Do the writers of this site believe Rev 12:5 represents the rapture? If so we need to see the dragon sign in addition to the great one before the rapture. Thoughts? Also I am look forward to putting faces to names when get to glory.

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    1. Here is the likely dragon; go to google sky, click on constellations, click on virgo, click on infrared and zoom in. It's partly blocked by google but you see enough.

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    2. Most of us do believe that Rev 12:5 is about the rapture. However we are not convinced 9/23 is the exact day of the rapture. It could be, but I'm open to any time soon.

      As far as the dragon is concerned, I'm not too worried about it, but here is where I'm currently leaning:

      http://unsealed.boards.net/post/7065/thread

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    3. Although I don't believe that 9/23 will be the rapture (no one will no the day) because of what Matthew said:
      Matthew 25:5-7
      5 “When the groom was late in coming, they all became drowsy and went to sleep. 6 But at midnight there was a cry, ‘Look, the groom! Come out to meet him.’
      I do expect the rapture to occur not long afterward, perhaps hours, perhaps days.

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    4. I can’t speak for all the writers on this site regarding their interpretation of Rev. 12, but I do think there’s enough data to address your enquiry of the dragon sign. If you’ve read the articles on this site, or watched many of the videos by Scottie Clarke and others, you know that the popular celestial candidates for that second sign include Niburu/Planet X and the constellations Sepens Caput and Draco. Proponents of these theories state that any unseen celestial elements will come into view near the completion of the great sign. However, this second sign may not be celestial like the great sign in verses 1-2. In fact, verse 9 tells us who the dragon is (“The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray.”). Therefore, some state that the second sign in the text is not celestial in the form of constellations and stars, but of Satan and his fallen angels in the spiritual realm. Proponents of this theory would use verses like Ephesians 6:12, “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms” to support their claims. Furthermore, they would argue that at the very moment of the catching away, our spiritual eyes and ears will be opened like that of Elisha’s servant in 2 Kings 6:16-17 to see the dragon and his army attempting to devour the child only to fail. Ultimately, no one knows for certain what this second sign is, so all we can do is simply watch and pray.

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    5. The "dragon" of Revelation 12:3 MUST be a celestial one as it is clearly said so to be "in the heavens". I am strongly convinced it to be this 'Nibiru' planetary system (! = numerous orbs / planets, not a single one) hidden by NASA and mentioned on social media. I don't watch it on Google but follow diverse real skycam footage on YouTube channels like WSO / Expitaly / Skywatch media news and others. Recommended! :)

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    6. Annabel,

      I couldn't agree more. There is something coming, and the ancients left proofs of this monster.

      Some on this site are uncomfortable discussing or believe it, but the videos of second suns, the strange weather, the planet perturbations, the sun setting far north, the tunnel building, and the ancients’ writing on this, it’s not a myth.
      Another thing is the shenanigans in Antarctica. Why would Kerry be told to go down there one day before our election, of all times? What was he shown or told? These big wigs from various countries going down there, and then the former astronaut Tweeting something about being frightened and how mankind is doomed, only to fall ill later and transported to NZ for medical care. Did they poison him? Who knows. We know astronomers have died in strange circumstances, starting with Harrington, then Shoemaker in ’97 (a one lane highway in Australia). I know it isn’t evidence, but they do kill don’t they?

      See Soul Evolution on YT even mentioned that there is a machine down south whose purpose is to detect neutrinos. There is postulation that there are more than two stars in this system, one of which is a neutron star. He posted the video pic of his Argentine amateur astronomer depicting several planets already, and it is approaching from the south. If this is God’s wrecking crew, how far away can it be?

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    7. NASA admitted a planetary system was heading towards Earth back in 1983 then went silent. Just yesterday I put together information related to this. It is speculated that this system with its seven planets orbiting a brown dwarf star is associated with the second wonder in heaven prophesied in Revelation 12:3 and, therefore, may be the 7-headed Great Red Dragon. Since the events related to Revelation 12 are both physical and spiritual, this may answer the question of what is the physical manifestation of the Great Red Dragon. For links I found on this subject refer to http://lynmelvin.blogspot.com/2017/08/time-to-save-with-fear.html

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  5. I have an atypical question.

    Should we be hanging about the graveyards and local cemeteries on the 20, 21st, 22nd of September?

    If they go up first, should we not see that literally? That is what I understand.
    Then it is YOUR turn.



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    1. So funny that you mention that! I have had the exact same thoughts-how awesome would it be to see my grandparents or in-laws burst open those graves as they are resurrected! It would be a sight for sure. LOL! Blessings in Christ Jesus :) YSIC Kay.

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    2. Thought of that too in passing....Like an emergency early warning system...lol. But in a way I also wonder if it all won't take place simultaneously?

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    3. My friends, it could happen literally, or in such a way that we would not see with our eyes. I have read that the graves opened and bodies walked out after the Resurrection, no?

      It says the dead rise first.

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    4. The event will happen so quickly, there won't be time for looking at graves. In any case, we're told to look up, not down.

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    5. Well, If we ALL are to be changed in the twinkling of an eye, I think one would notice. Now whether or not we all are snatched up and away at the same time, the dead and alive, is a different matter. Paul seemed to have distinguished that a bit with his 'then'. Maybe those who alive will be earth born as Jesus was and for the same number of days. Do I know? Nope, but then.....

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    6. Personally, I'm worried about looking back towards earth, just in case I end up like Lots wife.

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  6. I recently listened to Paul Begley & Mark Biltz - Discus Where We Are Today (https://youtu.be/qaquUF7hP5Q ). Pastor Blitz talked about the eclipse, Rev. 12 Sign, Rosh Hashanah, then Yom Kippur. Then Mark explained about November 2nd, The Balfour Declaration was November 2, 1917. Mark explained that Nov. 2nd is 33 days after Yom Kippur. Where have we seen 33 in the past info on the eclipse? Then I remembered someone mention about Leviticus 12 explains Revelation 12. Go read Leviticus Chapter 12. WOW!!!

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    1. Yeah its cool. Read Leviticus 12 about the periods of days of impurity. Thats the law concerning a natural physical birth.....but what IF the Rev 12 sign is a spiritual birth? Natural and physical are opposites...so wouldn't the periods of impurity also be reversed? The 33 days coming first? 33 days after the eclipse is September 23 and the completion of the sign...ON THE APPOINTMENT OF TRUMPETS!!!!!. I think IF Jesus does return that day..he will love it if he see;s us looking up watching and waiting for him. He'd just love that!!!!

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    2. Jeff Black, you made me smile. Jesus WOULD really like us to literally be looking up and watching. Thank you.

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  7. Sorry...but show me a conservative pastor like John McCarthy, Charles Stanley, Chuck Swindoll ect., that are speaking about this and I'd be convinced of the headline. 80% of conservative pastors are still on the fence and taking a "wait and see" approach, including my own. The ones listed here have been on this bandwagon for a while. :s

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    1. I tend to ignore mainstream and look to the small communities as to what is being discussed. Lots are talking about it and I know of at least one pastor preaching on it.

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    2. That is encouraging to hear. Bless that man.

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    3. "John McCarthy..."

      Haven't heard of him. Did you mean John MacArthur?

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    4. "show me a conservative pastor that is teaching this" is skin to show me a Pharisee/Saducee who believes in this man Jesus, and then I will believe. Do your own research my friend...do not rely on others to feed you or you just may go hungry.

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    5. Unfortunately, the smaller communities have less to lose but on the other hand can't afford to lose members. If a renowned conservative name spoke up, it would lend credibility to the subject and get the ball rolling with the rest. At best to address the facts and leave the decision to the listener would have merit. That's all I want my pastor to do. I'm not certain where in the Bible this is but doesn't the Lord give sight to those who he will to see this and understand?

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    6. @kajala: how "can't a (local) church afford to lose members" if Jesus and the Father NEVER lose anybody saved and sealed by the Holy Spirit John 10:27-30? So don't worry about small or big groups of believers, there is not a single sheep in the flock getting lost Romans 8:38-39 MARANATHA :)

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    7. Chuck F...Ugh :s yes, sorry...confusing my Scottish names...MacArthur.
      Annabel...the point of my response, that mainstream pastors would have a larger impact if they spoke on this (both good and bad). If I said to my very conservative pastor that, "John MacArthur spoke on Rev 12 and here were his findings," if they were fair and positive, I guarantee it would open the door to my pastor speaking about it too because MacArthur is very respected pastor. However, should I mention one of the pastor in this feed instead, not so much. I would get looks like I've gone off the deep end, evident that these folks don't have the same weight of respect to influence the scholared echelons. If they had, you'd see that impact decades ago as some of the above have been speaking to these matters for decades. So using them to back the headline in itself doesn't have a lot of weight SINCE their ministries make their payday with constantly speaking to itching ears of "end times" events or similar subjects.
      However, if a small church pastor suddenly speaking on this without having done so before, he could risk losing members and feel the financial impact quickly compared to a larger membered body who can afford take that risk. If something is said, it's likely a vague comment or they will not have an opinion of their own. My comments ARE speaking to financial impact and not the spiritual condition of those who choose to leave, "as being separated from the Father". It doesn't matter where they are physically, if they are in Christ, they can't be taken from the Father's hand. They either leave due to the pastors "fanatical" views or use another excuse to leave if they were looking for one anyhow. Church members today sadly settle for the milk and little meat unless a pastor has built his ministry on substance. This is not the case with "Seeker Sensitive" churches and am sad to say, they are members that are fed a constant diet with words that tickle their ears with little conviction. This is a conversation for another time.
      Lance M: see my comments above to your response. I've researched this and obviously am NOT relying on my Pastor to teach me this. I pray that he would and let the congregation (thru the Spirit's intercession) come to their own conclusions. Also, casting a large net over small fish to castigate (in comparison) that conservative pastors who don't believe this are Pharisees, it's an overreach that yields little...let the Lord judge that. Thanks all for your thoughts on this.

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    8. My intent was not to castigate anyone, it was only to point out that the religious elite of the day had all the teaching/knowledge of their time. They knew scripture better than anyone, and they should have realized who Jesus was more than anyone (blind can see, lame can walk, lepers healed, etc, etc), but he didn't fit their mold. How many Jews of that time neglected to follow Jesus because of these men. I reread my comments to you, and I apologize for insinuating that you had not studied the sign. Please forgive me for that offense. My original intent was to communicate my belief that the elite (which might be considered "conservative") may not see this sign for what it is, and I felt like you were waiting on their stamp of approval before you gave credence to the sign. I think there always be just enough doubt left over for people to ignore this or any other sign. Thankfully, this isn't a salvation issue. Anyway, my apologies again...blessings!

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    9. Dear kajala I hear you. :) Thank you for explaining in detail. For my part, I got Rev12-sign information via Google+ and YouTube just months ago and certainly NOT by any of local church communities be it small or big ;-) I think that's how most of us got informed during the last months at least and easily could prove it and collect more details on the internet on their own. Thus, I think a pastors influence might be overrated (if 'no name' or 'big name' anyhow)... In my country Germany most local churches are dead asleep and this year too much concerned about 500 years' anniversary of Reformation and of politics or migrant crisis instead of anything else. I don't rely on pastors anyway to get my information from the LORD who always feeds me with what I need just in time, from any ressource available and through the Holy Spirit (James 1:5). I think many can agree on this. I have learned much biblical insight from John MacArthur too but I don't expect him to be an overall expert in everything and on every bible topic (see 1 Corinthians 12!). Much love, MARANATHA!

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    10. Good Pre-Eclipse day to all and apologies in advance for the book reply...

      ~Hey Lance M- No offense was taken nor meant, thanks for your graciousness. I agree that today's asleep church mirrors the Pharisees of old and are missing that which stands before them. Albeit, (as you said) asleep, true believers are still saved but carry on with their daily concerns (that earnestly-don't matter). Then there are those who become the end times mockers and scoffers of 2 Peter 3:3 or those who fall away to become the ones described in 2 Tim 3:1-3. It's a sad state of affairs when the unwilling blindly ignore the evidence and could be the one's that Daniel 12:10 are referencing:
      "Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, but those who have insight will understand." This falls on both sides of the political spectrum...elites and the not so elites. It's definitely seen in the divisive MSM and their willingness to fulfill the Ecliptic sign to divide America (knowingly or not). So after all is said and done, let the willing ignorant be caught unaware, after all, "You can lead a horse to water but..." :D
      ~Annabel-Welcome to world of unfiltered reality. :) I too ventured here after the 2016 U.S. Elections to find out why our 1:100 longshot got elected, via truthful media. In my wanderings I likely came across the same sources as yourself and investigated it all. Some you have to take with a grain of salt, due to those who seek "likes and shares" for a profit using superficial or hyped headlines but there are other sites that are quite viable. Yes, this a viable site but w/all internet content I recommend discernment. :D
      -Regarding your snoozin' brothers and sisters and their Reformation infatuation, be sure to pepper your 500 year discussion w/the 120, 100, 70, 50, 30, 20 year number references to Jewish history and 2017. That might get their attention but you can preface it with, "WHAT THE HECK IS IT WITH ALL THE ZEROS?!?!" :D lol That in itself is a conversation starter and can get them thinking. Regarding all the rest, (politics/migration) that's intentional diversion and mind fodder to get your eye of the truth.
      -I really like John M's teachings, his unapologetic stance on the Gospel of Grace and unwilling compromise with those that want to teach a different gospel. Catholicism, Word Faith, Name it and Claim it, unchecked prophetic ministries and Purpose Driven/Seeker Sensitive churches to name a few. Pastor John gives them both accountability barrels where few others dare to venture. I'll also mix in others YT pastors for my daily carnivorous snack in the Word to balance out the skim milk teaching of my own church. :s You're right that none are experts and is why Paul commended the Bereans who validated his teachings with Scripture...as we all should with the Holy Spirit's guidance. Especially with today's watered down gospel teachings or (don't get me started) the Pharisaical (under the law) teachings (yes, Lance M, I did use "pharisaical" here and appropriately, I might add...) ;D
      ~Let us NOT be deceived and know the truth of His Word.

      Thanks again all for your input and thoughts on this matter. :)

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  8. Gary & Jeff, just FYI and notice: Look at ISAIAH 57:1 and read the "men TAKEN AWAY"= asaph (H622) = GATHERED could also refer to the Feast of Trumpets, the great " gathering" in the rapture...? Just food for thought ;-) Blessings!

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    1. Yes, Annabel! I see a strong correlation between Isaiah 57:1 and the Rapture.

      Here's the excerpt from my "Birth of a Nation Part II" on the vanishing harvest:

      "Oh, and one more thing: Isaiah may have previously alluded to this "vanishing, early harvest" in 17:11. Please take a look at the NET's footnote regarding a textual issue in 17:11 (here); as a result of Israel's apostasy, she then plants "a strange vine" (Isa. 17:10), and helps it to grow; but in the morning, "...[her] seed...the harvest will vanish on the day of disease and incurable pain [a.k.a. Tribulation, Day of Jacob's Trouble]." Now look at Isa. 26:18-19, and tell me if you see any similarities. What about Isaiah 57:1-2? And Micah 7:1-2?"

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  9. I gave up on churches about 15 yrs ago, after seeing rampant apostasy in church after church in several US cities. God clearly showed me to exit and trust Him to guide me and He has indeed. I really dont trust any pastors or their churches because to stay afloat the leaders have to please their congregations to keep the $ coming in. And most US Christians are too comfy in their worldly living to want to think about Jesus coming to disrupt their plans. However there seems now to be some church leaders who are waking up and that is good to know. There is still a little time left for the pastors to speak out but it will cost them, as most of their people will not want them to rock the boat.

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  10. Has anyone else thought about the destruction coming in one hour's time in rev. 18 - that there may be a connection with the fact that the eclipse will last for one hour? I know we cannot be sure how things are going to play out on August 21 or September 23 or whenever, but it's a thought that came to me during prayer today. Maybe others have written about this but i havent read anything and it may not be a connection. Just wondering . . .

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    1. Dear Anna, I am strongly convinced that nothing of any judgement and destruction described in the book of Revelation will take place as long as the body of Christ is still on earth. So don't fear nor worry. I assume this "one hour" of destruction in Rev18 to be a literal timeframe too, but perhaps as a result of the asteroid strike of 'Wormwood' in Revelation 8:11 (see Scott Clarke on the whole book written in layers not only chronologically) that also kills 1/3 of mankind at once (possibly on the American continent as Israel region opposite on the globe will be protected until the end - there will only be a minor strike that splits the Mount of Olives). But all this will happen only after the church is GONE. Much blessings to you! :)

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  12. I think most teachers of any notoriety are very gun-shy after the Blood Moons hysteria (which it appears has served only to obscure the true significance of those events). No one wants to be labelled as the "New Harold Camping", either. I'd bet most of them are in wait-and-see mode.

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  13. One theme running through dreams, visions, and such is the idea of the sleeping in Christ arising and evangelizing for some period of time, perhaps an hour, a day? What if the picture of the damed man pleading for someone to back and talk to his brothers was a picture, of sorts, of a similar event where many now with the Lord are empowered to come back and evangelize loved ones or others the Lord allows/chooses.

    IF an EMP situation, from whatever source, was happening, and tens of thousands of beloved family and friends show up in people's lives, fully healed, radiant in their new life in Heaven and directly touch and evangelize specific people, one-on-one, maybe for even 30 minutes world wide, while all electrical communications are OUT, then >GONE< we all are, the harvest swelling with those coming in at the last moments. Were we being exhorted to pray for this specific thing to happen? "Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth labourers into his harvest." (Matt 9:38, KJV) "Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest." (Lk 10:2, KJV) Maranatha!.

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    1. Dear Jimboni but did you read what Abraham answers to the rich man in Luke 16:31? Corresponds to Jesus words about the 'sign of Jonah' in Luke 11:29-30!

      Besides, a massive EMP can influence human brain so much that I personally rather think it to be one of the cause for everybody to believe the lies the AC and his demonic forces telling to people after the rapture (2 Thessalonians 2:10-12). Blessings, brother! :)

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  14. Annabel, I really hadn't gone far in thinking that out as it simply popped up as a possibly parallel in my thinking. In response, I would direct you to the conditional phrasing at the heart of Luke 16:31. "If they did not hear ..." speaks of a heart hardened and convinced otherwise. I sense that my scenario being mostly focused on the Gentile world would also have a slightly different spin. Nonetheless, in my supernatural fantasy the ones so chosen for such visitation, by our Lord, would be those who are still 'fence-sitters' in their hearts regardless of the face they are putting on. As we all know in the Rev 12 watcher community, if someone is truly committed to their error there is NOTHING you can waive in front of their dead eyes to spark a living thought on the matter. On the other hand, along the lines of the article we are responding to, SOME who were adamantly opposed have had the water of the Holy Spirit erode false resistance and prideful error and their eyes are opening. So, for those now with the Lord, who have loved ones living who actually WOULD be moved by such a visit, the Lord empowers it to happen for His Glory and the love of His children and His Desire that none be lost. Of course this is all simply noodling the thoughts surrounding details we have seen small glimpses of in the Word and personal revelations along the way.

    As for the EMP detail that was just an extra detail to frame such an event so that it could happen but not be widely known that it had happened. The deception that will IMMEDIATELY follow our departure will be so horrendous, I wanted my scenario to be n that context. With NK conflict and their having 2 Satellites in Geo over our country a likely EMP attack Sword of Damocles sitting there, along with numerous other ways for this to occur, it seems very likely to happen. The non-electronic pictures of final warfare we have in the Revelation are also commented upon these days as perhaps being logical in a post-EMP world. SEVERAL solar CME blasts over the last decade would have damaged earth significantly, even to the point of eradicating ALL life on it, except for the fact that the earth wasn't at the intersection point when that blast hit our orbit. My point here, again, is that a planet-wide EMP blast is a very likely piece of end-times devastation and will be one of the mechanisms by which the enemy deceives and takes control, globally, much with preparation long in the works.

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    1. Lastly, I personally believe that our Solar System, being, like ALL the heavenly bodies, created as a SIGN, has a binary star system. The bright, life-giving Sun we live our days under has a dark 'twin' who is very similar, in some ways, to the former but, only coming to kill, rob and destroy, is used of G-d to mirror this copy of His Son and to also be the vehicle by which our Lord allows Judgment and Stern teaching of our errors to occur. The Nibiru Brown Dwarf solar system in binary orbit with our Sun is, I believe, this very thing. I believe the last time it was here, about 3,600 years ago, one of its 'planets' crashed into our planet, broke the firmament releasing the waters above, hit our planet creating the Gulf of Mexico and releasing the fountains of the Deep, precipitating the Great Flood of Noah. Pastor Steve Ciocollanti has a YouTube video, at least 4-5 years old by now, which touches on the scientific research and verified evidence concerning the Gulf of Mexico's formation by such an asteroid, its specific size and impact details being very well worked out even to the point of predicting and then verifying that the very crust of the earth on the opposite side of the planet would have a lightly higher density from the shock wave which occurred. That detail was later confirmed and the crust of the earth opposite the Gulf of Mexico is more dense than elsewhere on the planet and the resulting perturbance on the overall gravitational field of our planet has been documented as consistent with this being the case. How's THAT for 'empirical evidence' of a global flood?

      In any event, as Nibiru again arrives, I suspect that many of the astronomical phenom in the Revelation we see involving large bodies striking the earth from the heavens is AGAIN tied to the system swinging through our neighborhood. In addition, from the mindset of the electro-magnetic universe, we are understanding more, now better understanding such things as the connection between solar flares and earthquakes and other electro-magnetic or energy links between the Sun and Earth and other planets, I believe, as you allude to, that the Dark Star, itself, is broadcasting energy/ information/ influence directly. The increasing evil, unapproachability (as in what we talked about above), the "love of many waxing cold", the spirit of fear 'causing men's hearts to fail them' when seeing the things falling upon the earth, and many other such details concerning the spiritual, emotional and mental attitudes of humanity will be powerfully and significantly influenced, negatively, by the 'radiation', if you will, of the evil energy of the Dark Star. BPEarthwatch recently posted about a serious sunburn he got while sailing, which he has done for years, and it was unusual in its burn and having happened in so short a time and he believes that this, as documented from spikes in Gamma Radiation readings around our country, are the result of this Dark Star's radiations. So, yes, that 'juice', pouring forth across spectrums we can observe (electromagnetic) and cannot directly, (spiritual impact), is, RIGHT NOW, absolutely a BIG part of what we see happening in our world and is also a driver of the childbirth-type pacing of increase in frequency and intensity as this is ALSO correlated to the ever-decreasing distance between us and this evil transmitter fast approaching. Lastly, remembering that the Word declares to us the IMMUTABILITY of the movement of the heavens, upon which we buttress the solidity of our watching for the events of 9/23, KNOWING that ONLY G-D can orchestrate such, we can be both encouraged for ourselves and prayerful for the lost ones in knowing that the approach and arrival of this Dark Twin is imminent, irrevocable and ordained. Fortunately, this is NOT the ONLY thing arriving and we are told to keep LOOKING UP as our Redemption ALSO draws night, Praise the Lord! Maranatha!

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    2. Dear Jimboni my brother I'm absolutely with you regarding the so called "Nibiru" binary 'dark twin' system, no problem! :) I am strongly convinced that the current 'birth pangs' natural disasters and extreme weather patterns are caused by its disturbing influence (World of signs YT channel very good!). I just wanted to point out to you that after the church is gone there will be nobody of us to return and preach somehow. Please note as well that another gospel will be preached which is very much different from todays' grace message = Revelation 14:6-11 so God will in fact send angels but no one of us glorified saints you know? No offense, just not to confuse anybody reading this. ;-) Much love, looking forward to meeting you soon, MARANATHA!

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  15. Annabel, thank you. I also meant no conflict around this and really have no personal dog in this one and just looking at a model which is floating around and holding it up against other things to see how it fits. The whole idea is pretty far off the Reservation for me but our Lord has blown me away like that before so, ... Lots of points within it may be relevant, while, as a whole, it may well not work out that way at all. See ya' soon!

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  16. Hi Gary and brothers and sisters,
    I'm a little late to this post's party, but I have a quick question. Has anyone seen this video?

    https://youtu.be/FmiFWgqSRCk

    It's Pastor Carl Gallups speaking on the Rev12 sign. Is he a pre-trib guy?
    Also, I would appreciate any of your thoughts on what he says. Yes, he brings up the "astrology" word again. ��

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    1. Alice, Carl Gallups is the quintessential mammon-seeking Pastor. He is not only post-trib, but he loves to mock pre-tribbers. He's not watching for the return of Christ, he's watching for a return on his investment (on his media empire). A post-trib view is the only view that extends their love of this world and what it offers.

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  17. Catholics who claim to be Christian are the kind of "so-called" Christians that would do this.

    https://www.weaselzippers.us/354635-california-catholic-school-removes-statues-of-jesus-mary-to-be-more-inclusive/

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