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Prophetic Terminus



Eventually it won't be said, “no man knows the day or hour,” because the hour will have come.  Soon it won't be said, “things continue on as they always have,” because destruction will have befallen this unconverted world just as Christ, the apostles, and the prophets foretold (2 Pt. 3:1–13).  Two millennia may seem like a long time, but it's nothing compared to the everlasting future that awaits.  The scoffers put their confidence in these two millennia in which the sky hasn't yet receded like a scroll, not unlike the scoffers who placed their faith in the roughly two millennia that preceded the cataclysmic Flood.  Scoffers always lose.  The mockers have a few proverbial moments of mocking, but their mocking will cease for eternity future.


Why have nations assembled tumultuously?  And peoples meditate vanity?  Kings of the earth station themselves, and princes have been united together, against YHWH, and against His Messiah: “Let us draw off Their cords, || And cast Their thick bands from us.” He who is sitting in the heavens laughs, || The Lord mocks at them.  Then He speaks to them in His anger, and in His wrath He troubles them: “And I have anointed My King, || On Zion—My holy hill.”  I declare concerning a statute: YHWH said to me, “You [are] My Son, today I have brought You forth.  Ask of Me and I give nations—Your inheritance, and Your possession—the ends of the earth.  You rule them with a scepter of iron, || You crush them as a vessel of a potter.” (Ps. 2:1–9, LSV)


The world and its scholars overcomplicate, confuse, and deconstruct what is simple and clear: the God of Israel is the only deity in existence, His Son is the only Way to Heaven, and the Gospel is the only message by which anyone can be saved.  And His Son, who has offered everything He has to you—including His very self—is shortly returning, greeting you either as a most beloved son or daughter, or as a most unwelcome intruder in His dominion.  Will you, through faith, be the seed of the woman?  Or will you be the seed of the serpent, remaining in the pride of unbelief, stubbornly refusing forgiveness of sins, eternal life, and every spiritual blessing?





Prophecy isn't confusing, it's simple.
And the message of salvation is simple, too.





In what history will look back on as the greatest conspiracy of all time, the chief enemy of mankind has spent the last two millennia sowing discord among believers and confusing what should be simple and easy to understand—namely, the message of salvation and the simplicity of Bible prophecy.  What was once a mystery in the Old Testament is fully unveiled by God in the New, yet Satan has used tradition, fear, and eisegesis to blind the world to the truth: the truth that will set you free.

Bible prophecy was never intended to confuse or frighten you.  It was intended to enlighten, reveal, and clarify.  It was never given as something separate from the message of Christ, but it ties together with it, forming the greatest story ever told—a story that the minds of Hollywood's greatest writers could never begin to dream up—grander in scope than any science fiction epic, yet a story that is completely true.

We were all born into a spiritual matrix of sorts.  A veil has fallen over mankind.  The world says to escape it you must take the red pill that reveals an unpleasant truth.  Bible prophecy says that behind the veil isn't a darker reality, but a brighter one filled with hope and promise beyond anything you can imagine.  And you don't pass through the veil by swallowing a pill or obtaining secret knowledge, but by humbling yourself before the One who loved you at the cost of His own life.  He hasn't hidden the mystery—He's revealed it, but dark spiritual forces want to keep you blind to the truth.



And He says to me, “You may not seal the words of the prophecy of this scroll, because the time is near.” (Revelation 22:10)



As I write this, an end-of-the-age dรฉtente is sweeping the Middle East as Israel's historic Arab enemies are making peace with the Jewish nation.  The sure word of God says that those who do not escape what is coming would be chanting “peace and security” immediately before the onset of the labor pains of the Tribulation (1 Thess. 5:3).  Because of what's happening in the Middle East there will be an unceasing chant of these words over the next several weeks and months as the ultimate “peace deal” is coming closer to reality.  The Deal of the Century was the first plan establishing a Palestinian state within the boundaries of Israel's God-given land that the Israeli government actually agreed to.  The breaking of the everlasting covenant with Abraham is nigh at hand and how ironic that this “Vision for Peace” would be expanded into an agreement with many via the soon-to-be-signed Abraham Accord.  “Accord” is just another word for covenant.  The forthcoming accord establishes a future Palestinian state as a given and the consequence of peace—the cessation of Israeli intent to annex more of it's own land for some period of time.

Regardless of what some prophecy allegorists say, dividing God's land is absolutely forbidden.  But what about all the empires and kingdoms that controlled Eretz Yisrael for the past several millennia?  There was no Israel then!  The nation was dispersed by God's own judgment—not once, but twice.  Now Israel is back in the land and it is the one and only country west of the Jordan River.  Palestine doesn't yet exist even though the world has tried (and failed) to establish it for the last 73 years.

After the Church is soon removed, will the Antichrist simply take this deal and extend the four years of settlement freeze stipulated in the Vision for Peace to seven?  Or might he use the Abraham Accord to coax Israel into abandoning annexation plans for seven years, perhaps sweetening the pot with a Temple?  The Vision for Peace and the Abraham Accord seem to lay the foundation for what is coming post-rapture.  It should be noted that by peace the Antichrist destroys many.  Interestingly, the word for “peace” in Daniel 8:25 is shalvah, which perfectly encapsulates all the meaning in 1 Thessalonians 5:3—not only peace, but also security.  It has the meaning of ease, prosperity, peace, and security—all the things Israel is looking to these deals for, whereas Israel should be looking to its God and trusting in His promises, and, more importantly, His Messiah.

Already Israel is making peace with the wealthy, powerful, and influential United Arab Emirates within a matter of days, but it is thought Bahrain will follow shortly after.  Understand that this deal isn't merely a peace treaty akin to what Israel has with Egypt and Jordan.  This is full normalization—the first of its kind with any Muslim country in the world.  This deal not only brings about peace, but also the allure of economic, technological, and military unity.  That means prosperity.  That also means a sense of security in the face of the Turkish-Iranian-Shia axis.  As a clear sign that more countries will follow, Saudi Arabia and Bahrain have permanently opened their airspace to Israeli aircraft.  This is undeniably a covenant with many.  Time will tell if it becomes, post-rapture, the covenant with many.







Further reading:

Turning Point 2020

Signs in the Sky, Earth, and Sea?

The Third-Day Birthday

The Mark: Current Developments and Future Revealed

Prophecy Basics: Setting the Record Straight

Major Prophetic Milestones

The Ultimate Sign

Morning Star Rises!

The Day of the LORD

Pre-Trib Rapture Evidence: Top 10

The Law

Get On Board the Ark



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66 comments:

  1. Everyday this is looking more and more like the players set in place for Ezekiel 38, and less and less like the covenant that is changed or made stronger by the Antichrist.
    Sheba and Dedan protest the attack against Israel by Russia and Turkey and Iran.
    Sheba and Dedan are Saudi Arabia. Hmmmm. Saudi and Egypt are Sunni and Iran is Shia Muslim and most Arab countries fear Iran.
    Biden is solidly pro Iran and if he is elected, Biden will undo the Sanctions giving more power and money to Iran.
    Remember that the AC's promises for peace after major war will be welcomed by the world. What's the source of the terror/unrest?
    Ezekiel 38 war, and Israel's ally will be gone. Millions of law enforcement and military and congress and other leaders missing in the rapture.

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  2. Great encouragement, Gary. Thank you.

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  3. I think this is setting up more for the Psalm 83 war ( Israel vs Arab nations ) 1st, not the Ezekiel 38 war.

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    1. Agreed. But my reasoning is that I think the Ez. 38 scenario is not being taken literally enough. https://www.unsealed.org/2020/02/gog-and-magog-war-to-end-all-wars.html

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  4. Breathtaking events in the ME.

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    1. And it's only speeding up... UAE, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Kosovo, Serbia. Now shofars being blown in Jericho, etc.

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    2. Could it be that the antichrist will emerge from Serbia, or Kosovo? This will happen after the formation of the confederacy (Revived Roman Empire) which will consist of 10 European nations. Kosovo and Serbia were part of the Old Roman Empire.

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  5. Meanwhile I feel like I am living in a zombie hellscape longing to go HOME!

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    1. Oh, and by the way, I have been "socially distant" from like minded Bible lovers for about nearly a decade & NOT by choice! WHY? Well because despite searching long & hard, the churches for miles around me are completely VOID. Yes true. I tried VERY hard to locate any people who love & understand the WORD only to be met by eye rolling from one Bible mocker after another. YUP! AND after PLEADING with ministries like Stearman, Salus, Farag to PLEASE HELP US NETWORK & TRY to locate SOMEONE in our geographic areas to connect with ONLY Jan Markell who acknowledges the hardships of the "remnant church" told me to "HANG IN THERE" WHEN has JESUS EVER advised an aching heart to "hang in there??!! WE, HIS BODY, IS BROKEN & no one wishes to do anything about it as the stench of the hellscape intensifies every day.

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    2. Dear SFG, you could try the TLR map, all born again believers open to connect and pray and have fellowship. https://map.thelastreformation.com/ kind regards

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    3. Thanks, I had never heard of that before. I checked out my area & found people seeking to "help the lost." I am really really really wanting to connect with seasoned believers in my area (IF ANY) who have known, understood, & loved the WORD FOR DECADES & VERY HUNGRY FOR AN INTELLIGENT SPIRIT FILLED CONVERSATION while navigating the apostate hellscape. Many of these people seek the same thing and their ONLY means of fellowship has been some of the prophecy conferences they travel to. THAT is JUST NOT RIGHT NOR SUFFICIENT! Has anyone noticed ministries like Jimmy Swaggart encourage "media ministries"? Well, when the only opportunity for a decent sermon is watching TV alone in one's own home, WE have a problem! THE PROBLEM IS REAL if not unbearable.

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    4. Sfg...if you think its bad in the US, you should try England. You. Have to travel miles to hear the gospel preached (if you are lucky) and as for prophecy or end times, no chance at all. This website and others is all we have to read the truth and enjoy the comments.
      Unsealed, please don't stop. We would be bereft without you.

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    5. SFG, we hear you, brother!
      I live in the middle of the bible Belt and, as I have mentioned previously, there are plenty of churches.
      That said, it doesn't mean they are preaching on the end times or the rapture.
      (Many post their sermons online.)
      I've asked and been told that the subject is "too controversial"!
      Never mind that about 1/3 of the Bible is prophecy! God considered it important or He would not have included it; He also told us to "watch".
      I read and study and use sites such as this one to connect with like minded Believers.
      I APPRECIATE KNOWING you guys are there!
      * * * * *
      When we get our "perfected bodies", I expect we will have a new mindset as well.
      We will NOT be sinners! Which means we won't even think about it.
      We will have a new understanding, a new perspective from which to view our new world.
      But, I don't think God is just going to fill us up with info - we're probably going to have to learn and grow in knowledge just like we do now.
      He designed us with an infinite capacity to do so, so it makes sense...
      Anyway, if we have "study groups" in heaven, y'all are welcome!

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    6. I'm with you. It's like it was before the Flood.

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  6. Thank you dear brother! Maranatha!!!

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  7. Awesome Word and music Gary!!

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    1. Catchy song, eh?? I'm enjoying Scottish hymns these days.

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  8. Thanks Gary...if that was the last post you made on this site before the Rapture, that would be a great one!

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    1. I hope it is... but there may be a few more stragglers that we need to catch in the net. Either way, we fly soon!

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  9. So true! And I hope it is the last post. My comments above regarding the lack of spirit filled churches anywhere around so many communities & the resulting lack of fellowship does have what I take to be a very silver lining in this dark cloud. And that is the following: Since this is a very sorry state, so very different from what those of us who are old enough to remember what was the golden age of community churches, I take it as a loud & clear indication that God is done with the mission of the church age & the believing remnant will be DEPARTING VERY SOON! It cannot be soon enough for me!

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    1. There's a sifting taking place between those who say they have faith and those who HAVE faith. Those not of the Body do not fly...

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  10. The truth for such a time as this, frankly and simply spoken. A great article for all, but especially unbelievers and unseeing Christians There are still some who will hear it, I believe, or we wouldn't still be here. It is getting harder and harder to find them, though. Doesn't mean we shouldn't keep trying. Occupy until He comes, right? So, thank you, Gary, for the eye salve. May it go out and not come back void. Amen.

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    1. "Doesn't mean we shouldn't keep trying."
      EXACTLY.
      With whatever means we've been given to do so.
      I read Rapture Ready.
      There are a few writers who can just talk to anyone. One lives in Florida and regularly talks to and shares the Gospel with those he meets while out and about. I admire him greatly and always find myself praying for those he writes about. I don't know how he does it. I keep trying to talk to folks I KNOW and they just roll their eyes.
      My hope is that when the Rapture does occur, that they will at least be aware of what has happened and ready to make a decision for Christ.
      Another writer sometimes includes snippets of info about her two wayward daughters. They were raised in the Church, but have drifted quite far into the ways of the world.
      I don't know their names, but I pray for them.
      Another writer is a Messianic Christian and quite prolific in her writings, including about Jewish relatives who think she's a kook.
      I can relate - to the being considered a kook part.
      And with having close family members and Jewish relations who are unsaved.
      At this point, not wanting to hear the truth appears to be a CHOICE on their part.
      Many of them actually believe about Jesus, just not as their Messiah.
      Some are quite religious.
      My sister and I recently printed off a bunch of info to leave behind for them in the hope that they will not be deceived by the AC.
      In the overall scheme of things, it's not much, but we are trying to do what we can within our realms of influence.
      PRAY. PRAY. PRAY. PRAY. PRAY.

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    2. "print[ing] off a bunch of info to leave behind..." is VERY good idea. One I'm going to make use of.

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  11. More peace! https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/talk-kosovo-serbia-dont-know-can-find-map-wow-ric-grenell-brings-fire-wh-press-room-video/

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    1. So much peace! We're drowning in it.

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  12. Is this another example of a Third-Day Birthday?

    "Regardless of what some prophecy allegorists say, dividing God's land is absolutely forbidden. But what about all the empires and kingdoms that controlled Eretz Yisrael for the past several millennia? There was no Israel then! The nation was dispersed by God's own judgment—not once, but TWICE. Now Israel is back in the land and it is the one and only country west of the Jordan River. Palestine doesn't yet exist even though the world has tried (and failed) to establish it for the last 73 years."

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  13. Another great article! :)

    Getting tired of me saying that? :D

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  14. Doesn't seem so here

    But I'm on a Web Browser not an App on a Mobile device. :)

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  15. Wonderful article!! Thanks Gary!

    Aimee

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  16. Gary,I am a pastor at a Baptist church in Ohio. I have been blessed by the ministry of this site for over the last four years. Over the last couple of months I have become convinced that time is short and I have been sharing teaching on the Lord's return, including insights I have gained from you and others. Thank you all for your faithfulness to our Lord. May God bless you as you continue to stand strong and stay faithful to His calling on your lives! Maranatha!

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  17. Great, encouragement and assessment ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿป

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  18. Prophecy is simpler with Historical background.

    Today the Hashemite Kingdom is misplaced in Jordan. A land once called Palestine and claimed as part of Syria. Huh! How did that happen?
    In 1921, after the "Arabs" (many different Bedouin tribes), helped the British win the Ottoman war against the Turks, they (the British) wound up indiscriminately dividing up the territory without regard for the established territorial boundaries of the Arab bands. In other words, the Arabs were double-crossed.

    The British gave Iraq to the reigning Hashemite, but took the 700-year control of Mecca and the holy shrines of the Moslems, and gave it to the Saudi's and gave Palestine (by then called Trasjordan) to Abdullah, the Hashemite Kings brother.

    The French formed a Christian territory out of part of Syria and named it Lebanon, and reserved a portion of the land of Palestine to be the future state of Israel.

    When Israel becomes formal in 1948, it's no wonder the game was afoot. The British, along with the Americans, who by now had gained control of the Saudi Oil, backed the formation of the Independent State of Israel. 
Here was the British stirring up the kettle again. The rest is modern history.

    The Hashemite's are wiped out of existence by the UAR (Syria & Egypt) in 1958. They assassinate Abdullah, the next in the Hashemite line, and the throne goes to Hussein, then 18. They try to kill him for his entire life, but he becomes the longest reigning monarch on earth.

    His vow is to put Hashemite rule back into power in Iraq and regain the control of the Holy Shrines as the living descendants of Muhammad.

    History and Scripture have identified the Moslem Empire as the 7th Kingdom, out of which the beast from the bottomless pit arises and possess the heretofore benevolent King, that gets his reconstituted Hashemite throne, from the 10 kings out of the Roman portion of the Moslem Empire, and begins his reign on that land in the heart of the Medo-Persian Empire, speaking great things from the dragon, out of the mouth of Babylon. And, he will move swiftly as the Leopard as he strikes out against God's people, Israel, and conquers Egypt, setting up his throne in Jerusalem.

    The rise of the Little Horn of Daniel to full power takes three and a half years from the time of the opening of the first seal in revelation 6.

    During that rise, 3 dissenting kings from the 10 that opted for peace will be uprooted, and the remainder will give him their backing.

    A false church led by a false prophet will sing his praises.

    Then the possession will take place, the 8th ruler will be in place, abominate the temple, turn on the Jews and double cross what everyone had perceived to be the plan, and the second half of the tribulation, known as the Great tribulation the Great is underway.

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  19. Jenny, and sfg, I agree with you both about not being able to find people to talk to about the rapture and end time events. I live in a big city. There are so many churches here, but they are really just social clubs where people are getting their ears tickled. I don't have friends either who are looking for the rapture like I do.
     I don't comment much, but I do love to read y'alls comments and I thank you all for chiming in. Y'all are all great. It's so nice to have a place where I feel connected. I long for the rapture so much and I long to be with Jesus. I'm so thankful I have that to look forward to. I really hate the way this world is. 

    I'm thankful this isn't all there is. I often hurt for God. He made such a beautiful world. But most of mankind has rejected Him. That makes me sad. I wish they would love Him like He loves us. He's so amazing and His creation is so amazing. I can just imagine what heaven will look like. ๐Ÿ˜

    I'm so thankful God opened my eyes and saved me. 

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  20. Jenny,
    Where do you find those stories on rapture ready that you mentioned?
    I read the news feeds and sometimes I see a commentary. But I'd like to read more personal stories.

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    1. Lovin' Jesus,
      The current articles are posted on the right hand side of the main page under "End Times News by Featured Writers & Contributors".
      If you click on "MORE articles..." at the bottom of the list, you will be directed to a LOT more articles.
      New ones are posted daily.
      Terry & Todd also post weekly editorials and commentary (left side) about current events and doings in Israel.
      The authors I mentioned whose articles I was referring to are: Jim Towers, Geri Ungurean, and Candy Austen. There are others who post regularly; Daymond Duck, Don TwoBears, Grant Phillips, and Alice Childs tend to personalize their articles as well.
      Oh, and Jim Fletcher! They all write in the first person.
      Happy, happy reading!

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  21. I read revelation12daily.com
    Do you know of any where else like Unsealed, and Rev12 where we can connect with others like here? And find out more end time news

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    1. Lovin' Jesus, I sent you the info about Rapture Ready.
      Have you checked out the LINKS section at the top of the page on UNSEALED?
      Just start clicking on sites and see what appeals to you - LOTS of great stuff!
      I especially like Grace Through Faith.
      I learn something new every day!

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    2. You could look at the discussion side of Unsealed. We chat about a lot of things daily

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  22. About Rev 12:1

    Joseph's dreams that he told to his brothers and father

    Binding sheaves in the field. Genesis 37:7.

    The sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me. Genesis 37:9.

    As a symbol, the descendants of Jacob would remember the dream of Joseph. For this is a symbol of the Nation Israel. It's not the Church. The Church was raptured in the 4th chapter.

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  23. Jenny, thanks so much for the info.
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  24. I don't think anyone is denying that the woman with the crown of twelve stars and the moon at her feet is Israel and not the church.

    This chapter speaks also of a "Man-child" that is harpazo'd at birth, and then her other offspring later in conjunction with the Dragon.

    Revelation is more or less chronological for the most part, but since there is so much information about many aspects and parties of the end time period covered in it, you have different perspectives and characters being focused on in subset chapters.

    The absolute chronological treatment of each chapter to be fulfilled before the next chapter in Revelations does the whole book a disservice and generates false expectations of timeline fulfillments. It's like forcing a square peg into a round hole.

    Context is so much more appropriate than leaning on Chapter and Verse framework which didn't exist in the original manuscripts in the first place. These manuscripts were run-on paragraphs. Someone had to decide where Rev 12 started and ended, and the end is a good example of what I mean.
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    Short rabbit hole here ---

    In KJV and LSV for example the beginning of Chapter 13:1 starts with "And I (John) stood on the sand of the sea..." inferring John was standing on the shore of the sea, instead of the Dragon standing on the shore of the sea at the end of Chapter 12:17 (or CSV 12:18), or as with NASB Chapter 13:1 also.

    (BSB)
    Rev 12:17 And the dragon was enraged at the woman, and went to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.

    And the dragon stood on the shore of the sea.

    (KJV / LSV)
    Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea...

    (NASB)
    Rev 13:1 And the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore. Then I saw a beast coming up out of the sea...

    (CSV)

    Rev 12:18 The dragon stood on the sand of the sea.

    It makes much more sense contextually for the Dragon to be standing on the shore of the sea right after being knocked out of heaven, because the nest thing to happen is the Beast of the Sea rising.

    John is in the spirit seeing all of this and is watching it all play out as a viewer and not a participant. Why would he be standing on the sand of the sea at this point?

    The Dragon standing on the shore is the setup for the next contextual piece of the story, as it is the dragon who brings it about.

    The literal interpretation of the text is:

    "And he stood on the sand of the sea."

    - Right after the verse 17 common to all translations says:

    "And the dragon was enraged at the woman, and went to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus."

    This is not John, this is the Dragon.

    --- End of Rabbit Hole
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    So Rev 12 is a parenthetical chapter like others, which covers the whole 7 years and then some right before the tribulation, specific to certain characters:

    that being,
    - the woman (Israel)
    - the "Man-Child" (which is not Jesus who ascended, was not forcefully plucked at birth, and is future tense in Verse 5)
    - Israel's other offspring (in the tribulation)
    - the Red Dragon.

    Both births of her offspring are addressed further in Isaiah 66. This "man child" is the body of Christ, the Church being resurrected and raptured. The Church (Body) came out of Israel.

    The sign in the sky in Revelation 12:1-2 is complete and fulfilled in the Sept 23, 2017 fulfillment.

    We await the rest, though some argue that verses 3-4 are complete also, so we are now where the Dragon is awaiting to devour the "man-child" at it's birth (resurrection and rapture of the Body of Christ).

    So if Chapter 4:1 is an example and type of the rapture, it is not the only one in Revelations. And while it is true that the church is not seen on earth or mentioned from chapter 4 on till the end, it does not mean that it is not described in it's new state and home during those chapters.

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    2. Notice that dragon in the 12th chapter has seven heads and ten horns, and that the Crowns, which are signs of actual rulership, are on the HEADS. Since it is the dragon being symbolized in this chapter, Satan himself, the seven heads, which are the seven kingdoms that oppressed Israel throughout her history, ruled by Satan, which includes the 8th (which comes out of the 7th, which is yet to come),are wearing the crowns.

      The 13th chapter describes the Antichrist's kingdom, the 8th, that will come, so in this case, the crowns are not on the heads, but on the HORNS, which represents that 7th, or kingdom to come, which is the kingdom the beast takes over when he gets out of the pit. A small difference, but a significant key as to who is the real subject of the imagery.

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  25. This whole event is Tribulation time. The 144,00 are the man child which get taken up before the dragon gets thrown out of heaven by Michael. He pursues the women because the child is gone. The woman flees to the wilderness, and there is remanent the doesn't go and he goes back for them. The Church is among the 24 elders sing the song of the redeemed in the Throne Room.

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  26. - The 24 Elders Speak of the Church in the Third Person
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    Perhaps for many the confusion concerning the identity of the elders springs from the (KJV) translation of Revelation 5:9-10.

    There the elders sing a new song of Christ’s worthiness because of His redemption.

    The (KJV) has the elders saying,
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    (KJV) Rev. 5:8-10

    And when he had taken the book,
    the four beasts and four [and] twenty elders
    fell down before the Lamb,
    having every one of them harps,
    and golden vials full of odours,
    which are the prayers of saints.

    And they sung a new song, saying,
    Thou art worthy to take the book,
    and to open the seals thereof:
    for thou wast slain,
    and hast redeemed (US) to God
    by thy blood out of every kindred,
    and tongue, and people, and nation;

    And hast made (US) unto our God
    kings and priests:
    and (WE) shall reign on the earth.
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    However, other Bible translations have, “them” in the place of “us”, thus making the church and the 24 elders two separate entities.
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    (BSB) Rev 5:8-10

    When He had taken the scroll,
    the four living creatures
    and the twenty-four elders
    fell down before the Lamb.

    Each one had a harp,
    and they were holding golden bowls
    full of incense,
    which are the prayers of the saints.

    And they sang a new song:

    “Worthy are You to take the scroll
    and open its seals,
    because You were slain, and by Your blood
    You purchased for God
    (THOSE) from every tribe
    and tongue and people and nation.

    You have made (THEM) to be a kingdom
    and priests to serve our God,
    and they will reign upon the earth.”
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    (NASB) Rev 5:8-10

    When He had taken the book,
    the four living creatures
    and the twenty-four elders
    fell down before the Lamb,
    each one holding a harp
    and golden bowls full of incense,
    which are the prayers of the saints.

    And they sang a new song, saying,

    "Worthy are You to take the book
    and to break its seals;
    for You were slain,
    and purchased for God with Your blood
    [men] from every tribe
    and tongue and people and nation.

    "You have made (THEM) [to be]
    a kingdom and priests to our God;
    and (THEY) will reign upon the earth."
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    It is also important to note that the four living creatures are also singing this new song, (Rev. 5:8).

    As well as all 28 entities (24 Elders + 4 Living Creatures) having bowls of incense which are the prayers of the saints. This is another 3rd Person description of the saints and differentiates the elders from the saints.

    As well as having to conclude that the 4 Living Creatures also being saints, which clearly they are not (Ezekiel 1:4-26).

    Simply put, the saints are not there yet, and their prayers are being represented by these 28 while they are still on earth.

    The saints don't arrive till chapter 7, and they are clearly the saints along with the Elders and the 4 Living Creatures. John speaks with an elder about the great multitude, specifically this conversation differentiates John, the Elder and the Saints as separate parties.

    And here also in chapter 7 we find that they are those who have come out of great tribulation (great trial), not the Great Tribulation which would be capitalized if it were referencing a specific time period of the 7 year period of Daniel's 70th week. No, this is patient endurance of trial throughout one's Christian life, for the last 2000+ years since Christ ascended to the right hand of the father and sent the Hole Spirit at Pentecost.

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    1. For thou wast slain, and hast REDEEMED US - who? The four and twenty elders. Thou hast redeemed US to God by thy blood ( by Thy life poured out - You paid the price to redeem us) out of every tongue, and people and nation, and hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall REIGN ON EARTH.

      There's the Church! There's the children of Faith, There's the Redeemed. There's the Abraham, that Romans 4 said, had his faith counted as righteousness. The price tag of allowance, that let God credit his faith as righteousness, the blood of Jesus Christ, that as a mediator, in the book of Hebrews, paid the price for every sin, from day one to now, to future.

      In those Elders; King David, who Romans 4 says, because he lied, he committed adultery, he murdered, he falls short of the law, he never made it in under the Old Testament Covenant. Because the Law said, if you keep it, you'll live in it - if you violate it, you'll die.

      The only reason David is going to be in Heaven, not because he was king of Israel, not because he kept the law, but because God placed David in Christ, as Romans 4 says, credited David's faith to righteousness, and brings him in on the same basis as the New Testament Church
      comes in.

      Moses, the law giver, is there. Not because like no other man, God would hide him in the cleft of the rock on Mt. Sinai and let him catch a glimpse of the brightness of God's presence, until when he came from the mountain, his face shone, and he didn't know it shown and not because God allowed him to talk with His Son on the mount of transfiguration. Moses sinned, but God took his faith, as recorded in the 11th chapter of the book of Hebrews, and credited it to righteousness.

      Because, Jesus Christ lived the righteousness for us all, died for the sins of us all, and God placed the sins of Moses and David and Abraham and all of them into Christ.

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  27. Have y'all ever seen a small white lily growing in your yard after a rain? They are called rain Lily's. They smell like the midday wonderful perfume. If you see one, pick it and smell it. It's really wonderful. It's a taste of Heaven. We are so blessed to have such treasures as the Lily. It makes me think of Heaven.  The smells and sights must be amazing.  Paradise.  The rain Lily in all its beauty, and smell is a window into heaven. Imagine what awaits us there. What a gift of hope. 

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    1. No, not yet but I will look out for one. If it's anything like the Plumaria of Maui it smells tropical.
      Right now were surounded in cloud ash and fire, I will look for one as soon as it rains.

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  28. Ours Is The Terminal Generation
    Peter, James, John, and Andrew upon hearing what they would face during their lifetime for His name’s sake asked the Lord Jesus, “What shall be the sign of thy coming?” (Mt. 24:3f). His answer included all that would take place prior to and including His “Second Coming” (Mt. 24:4-31; Mk. 13:5-8, 10, 12-27; Lk. 21:8-11, 25-28) and the signs to look for with the Parable of the Fig Tree and the Parable of All the Trees (Mt. 24:32; Mk. 13:28; Lk. 21:29-31).

    “Now learn a parable of the fig tree: When its branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is [near] (Mt. 24:32; Mk. 13:28). Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now [near] at hand (Lk. 21:29b-30). So also ye, (Mt. 24:33a; Mk. 13:29a; Lk. 21:31a) in like manner (Mk. 13:29b), when ye (Mt. 24:33b; Mk. 13:29c; Lk. 21:31b) shall (Mt. 24:33c; Mk. 13:29d) see (Mt. 24:33d; Mk. 13:29e; Lk. 21:31c) all (Mt. 24:33e) these things (Mt. 24:33f; Mk. 13:29f; Lk. 21:31d) come to pass (Mk. 13:29f; Lk. 21:31e), know that it (Mt. 24:33g; Mk. 13:29g) the kingdom of God (Lk. 21:31f) is [near] (Mt. 24:33h; Mk. 13:29h; Lk. 21:31g) at hand (Lk. 21:31g), even at the doors (Mt. 24:33i; Mk. 13:29h). Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass (Mt. 24:34a; Mk. 13:30a; Lk. 21:32a) away (Lk. 21:32b), till all (Mt. 24:34b; Mk. 13:30b; Lk. 21:32c) these things (Mt. 24:34c; Mk. 13:30c) be fulfilled (Mt. 24:34d; Mk. 13:30d; Lk. 21:32d).”

    The two signs that were to indicate His Second Coming was near would be the “rebirth” of the nation of Israel and the “return of her men” to the land of Israel! The fig tree is a symbol used in Scripture that refers to the nation of Israel. God, Himself, used figs as a symbol for Israel in a parable recorded in Jeremiah 24:1-2, 4-10. In a parable told by Jotham to the men of Shechem that is recorded in Judges 9:7-15, trees were used to symbolize the men of Israel who had gone forth to anoint a king. The disciples knew that fig trees leafed out in late spring, near the beginning of summer (Mt. 24:32; Mk. 13:28). Thus, when the “fig tree begins to bloom” [the nation of Israel reborn], they should know that summer [His Second Coming] is “near at hand” (Lk. 21:29-30). After more than 2,500 years Israel once again became a sovereign nation when she was reborn on May 14, 1948, fulfilling the first sign the Lord Jesus had given. The vast number of Jewish men [trees] who returned to their ancestral homeland fulfilled the second sign!

    “This generation shall not pass away, till all these things be fulfilled,” declared the Lord Jesus. The generation that will witness His Second Coming began with the rebirth of the nation of Israel on May 14, 1948. Since we are now in the early months of the year 2020, this must be a generation of eighty years (Ps. 90:10), which will end with the Second Coming on the Feast of a Day of Atonement [Yom Kippur] on 9/30/28. The prophetic significance of the Feast of Trumpets will be fulfilled with the Rapture on 9/20/20 (Jn. 4:35; Ti. 2:13). The 21 judgments of God that are described in Revelation 6:1-19:21 will be fulfilled during the next eight years! We are now living in the time that the Lord Jesus said was the beginning of sorrows (Mt. 24:4-8).

    A complete explanation of all that is referred to in this missive and much more may be found on www.endtimewarnings.org. Hopefully, a reading of “A Biblical View of the Past, Present, & Future” will inform, edify, and encourage all who study its content. Maranatha!

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    1. I don't believe in a FOT Rapture for the Church BOC.
      And here's why!

      Each of the Spring feasts fulfilled by Jesus and their significance is passed along to the Christians of today in shadow form because the Jews as a nation chose not to accept Jesus as the Messiah, so they continue to await his coming to this day.

      Now the shadows of the feast lead us only to Pentecost.

      There are three fall feasts yet remaining to be fulfilled by Jesus.

      The Feast of Harvests, Atonement and Tabernacles.

      These feasts are reserved for His second coming because there would have been no need for them had the Jews accepted the sacrifice at the time.

      But, because they rejected, the direction of the fulfilled feasts was turned into promises of God to the Church. Those promises end with the completion of the Churches covenant.

      The Churches covenant ends at the Rapture, and there is no Jewish feast that celebrates the rapture. So, naturally there is no shadow cast for the Rapture from the feasts.

      The set time for the Rapture to occur in fulfillment of that shadow cast by Jesus Himself when He ascended to heaven taking with him those who rose with Him, the promise of the full harvest yet to come is 40 days after First Fruits.
      That scene was the promise fulfilled.

      When He returns for us on that same Ascension Day, it will be to fulfill that promise and reap the full harvest in the twinkling of an eye, of those living at the time.

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    1. Convert from Gregorian to Hebrew date

      May 14 1948 after sunset lyyar 6 5708
      +80 May 14 2028 lyyar 19 5788
      -7 May 14 2021 Sivan 4 5781

      Looks more like a Jewish Spring time Feast for a Rapture!

      Lets see what could it be ah yeah….first fruits thats the one, with the dead rising and going into Jerusalem Jonah’s Warning of 40 days that would bring us to ASCENSION DAY(Body of Christ going up).
      And I think this all happened before and is what Paul taught the Colossians.
      Shadows of things to come but the substance is Christ.

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  30. Ours Is The Terminal Generation
    Peter, James, John, and Andrew upon hearing what they would face during their lifetime for His name’s sake asked the Lord Jesus, “What shall be the sign of thy coming?” (Mt. 24:3f). His answer included all that would take place prior to and including His “Second Coming” (Mt. 24:4-31; Mk. 13:5-8, 10, 12-27; Lk. 21:8-11, 25-28) and the signs to look for with the Parable of the Fig Tree and the Parable of All the Trees (Mt. 24:32; Mk. 13:28; Lk. 21:29-31).

    “Now learn a parable of the fig tree: When its branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is [near] (Mt. 24:32; Mk. 13:28). Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now [near] at hand (Lk. 21:29b-30). So also ye, (Mt. 24:33a; Mk. 13:29a; Lk. 21:31a) in like manner (Mk. 13:29b), when ye (Mt. 24:33b; Mk. 13:29c; Lk. 21:31b) shall (Mt. 24:33c; Mk. 13:29d) see (Mt. 24:33d; Mk. 13:29e; Lk. 21:31c) all (Mt. 24:33e) these things (Mt. 24:33f; Mk. 13:29f; Lk. 21:31d) come to pass (Mk. 13:29f; Lk. 21:31e), know that it (Mt. 24:33g; Mk. 13:29g) the kingdom of God (Lk. 21:31f) is [near] (Mt. 24:33h; Mk. 13:29h; Lk. 21:31g) at hand (Lk. 21:31g), even at the doors (Mt. 24:33i; Mk. 13:29h). Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass (Mt. 24:34a; Mk. 13:30a; Lk. 21:32a) away (Lk. 21:32b), till all (Mt. 24:34b; Mk. 13:30b; Lk. 21:32c) these things (Mt. 24:34c; Mk. 13:30c) be fulfilled (Mt. 24:34d; Mk. 13:30d; Lk. 21:32d).”

    The two signs that were to indicate His Second Coming was near would be the “rebirth” of the nation of Israel and the “return of her men” to the land of Israel! The fig tree is a symbol used in Scripture that refers to the nation of Israel. God, Himself, used figs as a symbol for Israel in a parable recorded in Jeremiah 24:1-2, 4-10. In a parable told by Jotham to the men of Shechem that is recorded in Judges 9:7-15, trees were used to symbolize the men of Israel who had gone forth to anoint a king. The disciples knew that fig trees leafed out in late spring, near the beginning of summer (Mt. 24:32; Mk. 13:28). Thus, when the “fig tree begins to bloom” [the nation of Israel reborn], they should know that summer [His Second Coming] is “near at hand” (Lk. 21:29-30). After more than 2,500 years Israel once again became a sovereign nation when she was reborn on May 14, 1948, fulfilling the first sign the Lord Jesus had given. The vast number of Jewish men [trees] who returned to their ancestral homeland fulfilled the second sign!

    “This generation shall not pass away, till all these things be fulfilled,” declared the Lord Jesus. The generation that will witness His Second Coming began with the rebirth of the nation of Israel on May 14, 1948. Since we are now in the early months of the year 2020, this must be a generation of eighty years (Ps. 90:10), which will end with the Second Coming on the Feast of a Day of Atonement [Yom Kippur] on 9/30/28. The prophetic significance of the Feast of Trumpets will be fulfilled with the Rapture on 9/20/20 (Jn. 4:35; Ti. 2:13). The 21 judgments of God that are described in Revelation 6:1-19:21 will be fulfilled during the next eight years! We are now living in the time that the Lord Jesus said was the beginning of sorrows (Mt. 24:4-8).

    A complete explanation of all that is referred to in this missive and much more may be found on www.endtimewarnings.org. Hopefully, a reading of “A Biblical View of the Past, Present, & Future” will inform, edify, and encourage all who study its content. Maranatha!

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    1. wow.....did you just double post on me?

      Iv'e never been there, but now iam going, you gata lot of mat 24's which means your kinda stuck somewhere.

      Is this Mainer? Have you come come back to us?
      Ah... I miss you to.!

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  31. Hmmm. Are you implying Donald Trump could possibly be the Antichrist since he is the one brokering this deal? (This makes “The Last Trump” come to life, doesn’t it?). Lol

    I suppose one would have to conclude this if you see a possibility of a covenant being confirmed here pursuant to Daniel 9:27. Although it appears to me the TRUE GODLY covenant is being disregarded and stepped on....the Abrahamic Covenant. This Abrahamic Accord is wrongly named.

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