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The Revelation 12 Sign Is Unique

At the heart of many attempts to disprove or belittle the significance of the Revelation 12 Sign is the argument that this alignment is really not anything special.  This is where I feel that Richardson, Crone, McHyde, Faulkner, and others are missing the mark.  The uniqueness and precision of the September alignment is its greatest strength.  It's not enough that the moon and sun are near Virgo once a year.  It's not enough that Jupiter passes through Virgo's womb every 11 or 12 years.  Every condition in Revelation 12:1-2 has to be met and that's  what's unique about the alignment on September 23rd.

The woman must be clothed with the sun.

The woman must have the moon under her feet.

She must have a crown of exactly twelve stars.

She must be pregnant and give birth.  Pregnancies only happen in wombs and they last 37 to 44 weeks.  It's not enough for Jupiter to just pass through Virgo or retrograde nearby.  It needs to stay in her womb in a way that pictures a pregnancy.

There have now been three separate, extensive studies to see if this alignment has occurred before or will occur again to test the claim of September 23rd's uniqueness.  Scottie Clarke literally took 7,000 screenshots, one for each of the six thousand previous years and one for each of the next one thousand years and found no matches.  Mark Chiswell used an algorithm for a similar length of time and found no matches.

The third study comes from John Bell who used an even more precise algorithm to find only those years where close matches occurred.  His study was more extensive, ranging from 6000 BC to 4306 AD - a 10,305 year period!  He found only nine other close matches besides 2017 and none of them perfectly fit the text.

I've decided to put together a chart showing every close match or suggested match that I've run across in addition to Bell's matches to show you how incredibly unique and precise the alignment in September 2017 is.  I've personally investigated each claimed match to see which of the conditions they meet.  There are four essential conditions and I've added "Birth Before Labor" as a fifth, possible condition.  If our interpretation of Revelation 12:5, Isaiah 66, and Isaiah 26 is correct, then that also becomes an essential condition.

Moon under feet. In my investigation I discovered that having the moon under Virgo's feet is rarer than I first thought.  This actually does not happen every year unless you want to argue that the moon simply passing by the constellation is sufficient.  Because of the wobble of the moon's apparent path through the sky, in many years the moon is very far from Virgo's feet and when it crosses the imaginary line demarcating the bottom of her feet, it has actually left the constellation Virgo and entered the constellation Libra.  It's not anywhere near her feet.

Crown of 12 Stars. The crown of twelve stars was the most difficult condition to judge because of the frequent ambiguity.  September 2017 has the most perfect and clear alignment of the crown in this entire list, but other years arguably had a crown of twelve stars, too.  For example, 2705 BC at first glance looks like it only has ten stars, yet if you look above Leo you'll see Mars and Venus.  Venus is closer to Cancer than it is to Leo, though.  To complicate things further, Saturn is right over Virgo's face near the sun.  It's not really on her head, so should it be counted?  To judge these ambiguous years I apply some reasonable rules.  The first is that a planet must be closer to Leo than Cancer to be counted.  The second is that close conjunctions of planets in Leo or close conjunctions with Regulus are maybes because it's unclear if they could be easily distinguishable from earth.  The third is that a planet must be near the top of Virgo's head or higher.

Pregnancy. The pregnancy condition, which Revelation 12:1-2 itself gives, was easy to judge.  I found this to be the condition that really makes September 2017 stand out.  Many times Jupiter undergoes retrograde before or after it passes Virgo's womb.  In these cases it passes right through in under two months.  Definitely not a pregnancy.  Other times it undergoes retrograde in Virgo's womb, but its retrograde path takes it very far outside the womb, so again - no pregnancy.  When I closely investigated each of these claimed alignments, I was actually able to eliminate the 3915 BC date, which I had previously suggested was a perfect match in other articles.  The baby is far outside the womb for half of the pregnancy!

Clothed in Sun. The sun passes by Virgo every year, so this is the one condition each claim met.

Birth Before Labor.  This condition was simply determined by Jupiter's presence inside or outside the four-star quadrangle that most consider to be Virgo's "womb" at the time of the claimed alignment.

From what I can tell, over a 10,000 year period, 2017 is the only year that fits the text.  That's pretty astounding if you think about it.  Leaving the fifth maybe condition aside, there were only three near-matches in over 10,000 years: 3974 BC, 3915 BC, and 2705 BC.

This article is a snippet from The Celestial C-Section.

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  1. Of course, this doesn't take into consideration the Comet Borisov which I consider an astounding bit of corroboration!

    1. That's true! If you consider the comet, nothing would ever come close.

    2. Don't forget Comet 67p which will be in conjunction with the moon on Sept. 23. The fact that the only comet in history to have a man-made object on it will be involved with this sign - and more specifically, with the moon on the Feast of Trumpets - is amazing.

    3. I hadn't heard that. I'll have to take a look in Stellarium! Thanks.

    4. :)

      RE: Comet 67p

      If we go back to Luis B. Vega's article on 5 doves from a while back you'll find lots of info on it, and especially his visual charts:


  2. Gary-Slam dunk sir!! I thought U was thorough, but you take the prize! I have exhaustively checked each year to 6000 years ago to 1000 years into the future. I had found, and others also, the 3915 BC match...but as they say..."after further review" the play call was changed. Jupiter indeed was not in the womb correctly. As you stated, next months star alignment...Mercury,Venus and Mars is the cleanest line up if all the other crown of 12 stafs.

    One more comment. I did not go digging looking for another alignment that would "water" down this amazing one next month. I am a SHOW me type, and I get MUCH more pleasure proving for myself, rather than just "parrot" anothers findings. This us indeed a divine lineup next month that to me, is a "bridge out" ahead warning ...instead of it being a bridge out right at the sign.
    We are living in a most amazing and unique time period, when we will see the Lords coming. Still a few events must happen first...but this Rev 12 sign is flashing brightly!

    1. Great thoughts, Stan. This is SO unique. Christians do themselves a disservice my ignoring it.

    2. Stan, what do you think has to happen?

    3. Not to mention that no one ever....ever in history would even see this without knowledge being increased...in these days. Now everyone with eye's to see WILL see it.

    4. I find the one in 3915 (-3914) BC to be the book end for this one. It occurred at the fall of man, when women would now have to deal with Labor pains before birth. Isn't it interesting how many scriptures point to the "as a woman with labor pains"?

      This sign and timing was right there in front of us the whole time... ;)

    5. I also see -3914 bc as when Satan/Saturn snatched the keys with a legal loophole just like OJ Simpson's main lawyer and his dream team joined him! 1/3 of the created angels somewhere in time joined the fallen team, Genesis 6, Duet 32, Tower of Babel, we are never told that they all fell at the same time, nor are we told that they all like each other but work together anyway, BUT we are told that the whole bunch 1/3 are cast to the earth at one time, Revelation 12 The War in Heaven
      7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. This to me is what the "Great sign in heaven" tells us and astronomy not Harald Camping tells us the date. We will either be removed "Harpazo" or protected but when we say the word Rapture everyone picks up stones and starts throwing them at us. Grab your shields my brothers and sisters and let's ROLL!

  3. I think you should add a sixth requirement. We know that this sign must correspond with the Feast of Trumpets. 2017 does, but do 3974 BC, 3915 BC, and 2705 BC?

    1. FYI -- It *doesn't* correspond to the feast of Trumpets. Yom Teruah begins at sundown on the 20th and ends on the 22nd. REV12 begins to be fulfilled on the 23rd and more precisely on into the wee hours of the 24th.

      Just out of idle curiosity, what motivated you to say it had to correspond to the Feast of Trumpets anyway?

    2. since the Feast of Trumpets is the only feast that starts on a new moon, whether the sign corresponds to the FOT depends on how you reckon the new moon.

      If you use the astronomical/mathematical new moon calculations you get the 20th as the date of the new (completely dark) moon. Most Jewish calendars list the FOT on the 21st and 22nd which are the days immediately following this calculated new moon date.

      However, there are those who claim that the "new" moon is actually when the moon first becomes visible, not when it is completely dark. They say that in ancient times the determination of the start of the FOT required eyewitness observations of the new moon.

      If this is true, then it is unlikely that the new moon would be observed on the 20th or 21st because it is so dim. That leaves the 22nd as the first likely observation date and that would then make the start of the FOT on the 23rd. I believe this is why some people, such as Scott Clarke, are saying that this sign appears on the FOT.


    3. Greg L.,

      I think Beth is alluding to a connection between the Feast of Trumpets and the catching away of the church, which some in the pre-tribulation camp believe the Feast of Trumpets is a picture of and that the Rev.12 great sign is pointing to. Furthermore, a connection of the feast to Sept. 23rd could be made by how the Feast of Trumpets was historically celebrated. That in the past, two eye witnesses had to come before the Sanhedrin to testify that the new moon had finally been seen. If the Sanhedrin found their testimony to be true, the signal to begin the feast of trumpets was announced and the priests would begin to blow the temple trumpets (All this feast data is from the Temple Institute in Israel). So historically, the beginning of the feast was dependent upon clear skies, two eye witnesses (using only their unaided eyes) coming before the Sanhedrin to testify, and the first crescent of the new moon being visible to the naked eye. So even though Hebraic calendars state that the 2017 feast begins on the 21st and runs through the 22nd (Based on what our modern day astronomy software predicts), that may not be true if the feast was to be honored in the same way it used to be. Therefore, there’s a good possibility that the Sept. 23rd celestial alignment may fall within the 24hr period of the 2017 feast of trumpets.

      The Temple Institute: http://www.templeinstitute.org/rosh_hashana/sanctifying.htm

    4. A closer look at the Sabbaths will point us to two special Sabbaths surrounding the sign of 9/23/17 being Shabbat Ha-Gadol ("The Great Sabbath") and Shabbat Shuba ("Sabbath of Return").

      These two Sabbaths are tied together bookending Passover and Feast of Trumpets. The Shabbat (Sabbath) before Pesach (Passover) is called the Shabbat Ha-Gadol, the Great Shabbat. On this Shabbat, the Hebrews took a lamb and tied it to their bedposts. 4-days were allowed the family to confirm the lamb was without blemish. The family would often become attached to their lamb because of how closely they lived. This lamb was then sacrificed with the blood put on their doorposts.

      Shabbat Shuba, or the Sabbath of Return, is the second half of the Special Sabbath set. Shabbat Shuba begins Fri, 22 September 2017 at sundown (3rd of Tishrei, 5778). Note that this is the THIRD DAY. (This should be a trigger for us) Apostle John records that on the THIRD DAY Jesus and His disciples attended the wedding feast in Cana. (See John 2:1)

      Now open your Bibles to the Prophet Hosea, Chapter Six:

      "Come, let us return to the LORD; for he has torn us, that he may heal us; he has struck us down, and he will bind us up. After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will raise us up, that we may live before him." (Hosea 6:1-2 ESV)

      We can see here a correlation of days with the THIRD DAY being the Day that "he [God] will raise us up, that we may live before him." Is it any wonder that the Lord Jesus was raised up on the THIRD DAY? Or that Jonah was raised up on the THIRD DAY? Many parallels found in Scripture to this. I encourage you to seek them out yourself.

      Shabbat Shuba occurs on the THIRD DAY after Feast of Trumpets (also known to most as Rosh Hashana). Rosh Hashana begins at sundown on Wed, 20 September 2017. On the THIRD DAY, 23 September 2017, the moon will rise over Jerusalem at 8:20am (local time)

    5. Part two:

      I find it interesting that The Great Sabbath (Shabbat Ha-Gadol) began at sundown on April 7, 2017 and Sabbath of Return occurs on September 23, 2017. The April 7th date can be rendered as 4/7/17 or 4717. A quick check of Strong's #4717 yeilds "crucify" in either of the Greek or Hebrew.

      If you dig deeper on the traditions of Jewish marriage you will find many parallels to the story of salvation:


      This site has a good primer on the tradition of marriage. (Highly recommended) *** I am not affiliated with this site ***

      FINALLY, I would like to offer one more point regarding references to Strong's numbers. It is a given that they are not Biblical in nature and only used as a reference in a parallel regard. But if you believe that we live in a created world where Scripture reveals itself and that God has intentionally ordered our world that we may come to know Him, then it is good for us to search Him out everywhere and not just in Scripture.

      An example of that is His use of numbers. The number six (6) is associated with the day of man's (Adam in Hebrew) creation. We also know that the Hebrew's are His people, and as such so is their language. Hebrew does not use numbers per-se, it uses letters to represent numeric values. (This is where we see "the number of a name" concept.

      The name of the number six (6) in Hebrew is the letter Vav. Ancient Hebrew originally rendered this like a vertical line and represents a tent stake, spike or nail. Now, fast-forward to the Day of the Cross. How many stakes were used to nail our Lord to the tree? Three. Stake, stake, stake, vav, vav, vav. Six, six, six. Adam (man), Adam (man) Adam (man).

      That was Hebrew, now look at the Greek. Same story there. The number six (6) can be understood as a ligature of sigma and tau and represented by the character "Stigma". A stigma is a mark of ownership. Christ's "stigma" was six, six, six. Man, man, man. Sin, sin, sin. We can dig rather deeply on this point so I will keep it brief.

      Love like there's no tomorrow!

      Pastor Rich

  4. The only one that is close to 2017 AD is 3914 BC, thus brings these verses to mind:

    [Ecc 3:11 KJV] He hath made every [thing] beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.

    [Isa 41:4 KJV] Who hath wrought and done [it], calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I [am] he.

    [Isa 44:6 KJV] Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I [am] the first, and I [am] the last; and beside me [there is] no God.

    [Isa 46:10 KJV] Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times [the things] that are not [yet] done...

    [Isa 48:12 KJV] Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I [am] he; I [am] the first, I also [am] the last.

    [Rev 1:8 KJV] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

    [Rev 1:11, 17 KJV] Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and...

    [Rev 1:17 KJV] ...Fear not; I am the first and the last:

    [Rev 21:6 KJV] And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end...

    [Rev 22:13 KJV] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

  5. I have been looking forward to Christ's return since I was a child back in the 70's. I get goose bumps thinking and talking about this sign. One thing that I have come to realize, since I live very close to the center of the eclipse path, is that there will be more people looking right at this sign than ever before in the history of the world. The sun will be darkened and the sign will show the last month of the pregnancy.

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  8. Those that do not have eyes to see or ears to hear have no understanding.

    Matthew 13
    11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
    12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
    13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
    14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
    15 For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
    16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
    17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

  9. Interesting fact: On September 23 this year, from the Sun's perspective, Jupiter leaves the constellation Virgo, during the exact time the sign is fulfilled on Earth. Just more confirmation.

  10. The eclipse makes a cone like shape or a trumpet like shape seen only from outerspace.


  11. So excited for next month's alignment although a bit nervous too! Hopeful that its significance will readily be made known.

    As someone else commented, the comet C/2017 E1 (Borisov) really confirmed the already perfect fit of the 2017 alignment for me. The insemination on November 17, 2016. The conception on November 20, 2016. And the birth as Jupiter descends below the line formed by Heze and Spica on September 9, 2017, 41 weeks and 6 days from conception. Amazing how it fits together!

    So happy to see you discounted the near-match in 3915 BC. Thanks for all your wonderful work.

  12. Ecclesiastes 10:2, interesting. I'm curious what other pics you have found from others. I also went to google sky today and looked at both virgo and Leo. Virgo still has the blacked out area between the legs covering something. Leo also has something that looks like a planet when you look through the infared lens (on both). Neither can be seen in the plain sky unless you use the infrared filter. What planet is in Leo?

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    2. I really want to know what ecclesiastical posted that got removed. Several posts... especially seeing your comment back to them. Please tell me what was seen so I an look it up myself

  13. Then add the conception comet, the solar eclipse, the feast day, the horrible state of the world, and the amazing procession of the sun, moon and wondering stars "kissing" Regulus on their way to their Sept 12 positions: Mercury(Gabriel), Mars (Michael) and Venus as the Morning Star, and you have not just a unique sign but our Creator explicitly communicating with His Children. So profound is the Holy message that anyone with the weakest of faith will be deeply strengthened. This leads me to pray for those brethren who are blind - in heart, spirit, mind, and even -- with love -- in intellect.... We may be misinterpreting or misunderstanding the message, but there is no doubt that it is a most Holy message.

  14. I meant their Revelation 12:1-2 positions....

  15. Greg L., you do such a fabulous job of accurately uncovering things, I am amazed that you unequivocally say: "It *doesn't* correspond to the feast of Trumpets. Yom Teruah begins at sundown on the 20th and ends on the 22nd."

    It really MUST be qualified by adding something to the effect: "...depending upon the correct interpretation of when the Feast of Trumpets begins. Tradition has it beginning ONLY AFTER the appointed two witnesses confirm seeing the new moon, which can be delayed by minutes, hours, or days by visual obstruction such as clouds, including sandstorm clouds, which some have said is the reason why it is known to Jews as 'the feast that no man knows the day or the hour', because you can't know when it begins until the citing is observed and confirmed. This understanding does NOT conflict with the direct reading of the Torah, however a direct reading of the Torah could also be interpreted as beginning at the new moon, whether or not the view is obstructed by something such as clouds/sandstorms. So conversely if the tradition is incorrect, such that it is date-specific (with regards to God's calendar) regardless of witnesses confirming seeing it, then it trashes the idea of not knowing 'the day or hour' as being a hint by Jesus of when the Rapture will occur (which if the tradition were true would apply to knowing within a few days [i.e. not the day or hour]), since not 'knowing the day or hour' when it begins would then not apply."

  16. Anonymous- I would rather not go into what I feel must happen before the rapture. My mission is to enjoy this great sign in the heavens, and only make subtle comments that I believe must also happen. Later on down the road, if asked, I will share what I have studied.

  17. Not to mention that NONE of the years 3974 BC, 3915 BC, and 2705 BC would be prophetic from the chronological giving of the Sign by John in the 1st Century AD.

  18. This post is so encouraging. Thank you Gary for your research and sharing it with us.

  19. Great article Gary! You might mention your research into the use of stick figures in the past to represent the constellations, which have been amazingly consistent over the last 300 years since Alexandre Ruelle first introduced them...for instance, his stick picture of Leo contains 9 named main stars, consistent with what we are using today. Many of the naysayers either have not accepted or use stick figures, and hence some of their disagreements, ie "Leo has more than 9 stars etc..."

  20. Interesting article. I thought it noteworthy to mention the United Nations hosting a meeting September 21 entitled Peace and Security.
    1 Thessalonians 5:3 For when they say,"Peace and safety!" then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman, And they shall not escape.

  21. Anybody read/refuted this take?
    Especially the part about Leo not necessarily 9 stars?
    I get so excited about the sign but then on the other hand I wonder if we're seeing what we want to see?? So many viewpoint and differing opinions...i hope we're right


  22. I'm not sure anyone has noticed or noted this before, but when the UN Resolution 2334 was passed on Dec 23, 2016, it was also Kislev 23 or H9m23d. Fast forward 9 calendar months & we land on Sep 9, 2017 or G9m23d. A curious synchronicity.

    Additionally, for interests sake, in Jerusalem on Sep 20, the new moon is only 0.1% illumination (so not visible with the naked eye), but 1.8% illumination on Sep 21, which is entirely visible to the naked eye in generally good conditions (even about 1% is visible under perfect conditions). Sep 22 is 5.6% illumination. Therefore the possibility of Yom Teruah falling is Sep 21 is quite reasonable, but if conditions are particularly bad on Sep 21, Sep 22 is also a shoe in for Yom Teruah. If the weather isnt co-operating, & we have to wait until Sep 23, 2017, the crescent moon illumination will be 11.3%, a sure bet & the last of the three possible days for Yom Teruah before the third day is used as the default for Rosh Chodesh (if I am not mistaken:).

  23. RE: When is the Feast of Trumpets: The Rabbinical calendar states that Yom Teruah is Sept. 20 sundown to Sept 22nd sundown. But the rabbinical calendar uses a formula and does not go by the strict adherance of waiting to spot the first sliver of the new moon. If you DO NOT use a rabbinical formula and look in Stellarium or trust other sites that do this you will see that the FOT will actually occur on sunset Sept 21 to sunset Sept. 23. (You have to remember that Jewish days go from sunset to sunset and sunset of the 21st is the beginning of the 22nd. If you go into Stellarium and look at sunset on the 23rd, when the last of the Yom Teruah shofar blasts would be made (if not for being a sabbath) you will see it is at this precise time that the Rev 12 1-2 picture becomes absolutely perfect with the moon coming in directly under Virgo's feet! I've said it before, you can place a ruler on your computer monitor and it is a straight line from the two feet to the moon at sunset on Tishri 2, (September 23).

  24. kindly tell what you think about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=987xHnVfRI4

    1. Thank you Anonymous for the link to Pink and her video asking the illuminati "What about us?" I posed in the comments a ticket out of the trap via Jesus Christ and the sign in the heavens. Most of my ministry is to those deceived by the prince of the power of the air and though I have been laughed at by some, many of them are open to seeking a way out of the bondage of sin. God bless

  25. 39 days until September 23rd 2017 https://youtu.be/0jYgoX4NL7g
    (Click Read more) 6 days to the eclipse
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    https://youtu.be/i0Af_1t6lPY As we get close part 1
    https://youtu.be/2Z47R5fZMC0 part 2 of 3
    https://youtu.be/Jyfv3jQmJ5Q Eclipse August 21st 2017 WARNING OCCULT IMAGES
    https://youtu.be/0QhRZtMBVhE Gospel on video
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    https://youtu.be/Kaf4O8flpr4 God’s Roadmap newest
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSpUIIrFMqs The Unleashing
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    https://youtu.be/sfqKTrjeWL8?t=35m50s Gary Wayne
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    https://youtu.be/RZReEpOFRQE 9/23/2017 events
    https://youtu.be/pY3UWwfBdmo Genesis to Joshua
    http://watchfortheday.org/sundownatnoon.html Turn off the sun
    https://youtu.be/PzXifxP_IHM?t=6m26s What will it look like on September 24th on earth?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEzxw9rzyPA Parable of the Vineyard on Mark Wells page
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    https://youtu.be/Er507MsGp0M Tim Alberino on the book of Enoch
    https://youtu.be/5wbdjo7xnUg Whole book of Enoch with sub-titles
    http://www.unsealed.org/2017/05/the-five-part-gospel.html Revelation 12 Forum
    This video also shows pretty much everything I think people need to know:
    https://youtu.be/4NtYB1geYQk Dr. Michael Heiser What is the true Gospel?
    https://youtu.be/Lq26nzY24Ho Illuminati Infiltration of Christianity
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    https://youtu.be/PzrPwyCwnfM Pole Shift second sun?
    http://878ten.com/ Rt. hand or forehead?
    https://youtu.be/ciNJ4efgEw4 Monitoring from space?
    https://youtu.be/-pdEmwk2iGo How Artificial Intelligence learns Anthony Patch
    https://youtu.be/N4XncQig_LY What is the Temple of the Holy Spirit?
    https://youtu.be/jSv2Zqc41TY From Oregon firecharger
    https://youtu.be/cfXZm9Y1gYA Pastor who understands scripture
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    https://youtu.be/p6th2png8WU Jacob Israel
    https://youtu.be/0Qt0TlkDxQI Ephraim and Manasseh
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wd5eYVMHWM history of the bible
    https://youtu.be/6X_xB1JJ_Es 1776 Freemasons launch CFR
    https://youtu.be/zzvNymMn93c RFID chip intro
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7AZPlHvZHY Signs of the end
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    https://youtu.be/HSuKB9dEoGk?t=2h27m Michael Heiser trans-humanism (September 23rd 2017 the Alien Agenda will be unleashed and the fallen angels will arrive to "Save Humanity" ) Don't believe me? Just watch
    https://youtu.be/lquxviaQOsA Anthony Patch CERN Sept 23rd burning man
    https://youtu.be/6o942ZKpifY CERN Christian Truther
    https://youtu.be/P1VWw15V2G8 Tim Alberino

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kklrBBsI8w Trump orb

    https://youtu.be/BDD0J1ejEcg Face Like the Sun crisperCas9
    https://youtu.be/f3x7hPWKB2c 2018 All known planets on the right side of the sun
    https://youtu.be/1q1Irjx7Ujs Chris Putnam Tom Horn predict black pope
    https://youtu.be/QGC32goRiV4 Steve Quayle Tom Horn Vatican deception coming
    http://biblehub.com/revelation/12-1.htm Cross ref Revelation 12

  26. While my last comment awaits approval I just wanted to say those are the links I post to the pagans and to the "Christians" all over YouTube. Through this 2 year journey I have found more "Resistance" from "Christians" than from pagans. I hope they are just trying to guard the Kingdom but sometimes feel they are blocking the door while the innocent are being wounded. God bless those on this thread who have spent so much time rightly dividing the word of truth.

  27. By the way--for those locked into the "Rabbinical Calendar", understand that they are all into their man-made traditions, rather than the Torah whenever it conflicts. For instance, Yom Teruah is the SEVENTH month, as defined by the Torah, which only gives numbers for the months, NOT the names. Israel picked up the names of months while in Babylon, as well as a different day to begin each new year instead of what God specified in the Torah. The calendar names from the Babylonians tended to come from their pagan gods. Therefore Yom Teruah (as defined by the Torah) is NOT the beginning of the year, and is NOT in Tishri (the Jewish-adopted name from the pagan Babylonians), and is NOT Rosh Hashanah ("the head [beginning] of the year"), but ONLY is called “the 7th month” in the Torah.

    Is this important? Well...if one is determined to use that secular ("civil") calendar, rather than follow the Bible (as defined in the Torah, the first 5 books of the Bible) TO THE POINT that one dogmatically corrects anyone who says that Yom Teruah ("the Feast of Trumpets") cannot end on September 23 this year, then yeah, it might be important. COULD "Yom Teruah [begin] at sundown on the 20th and [end] on the 22nd"? Yes. But in my opinion, agreed upon by many (among them Scottie Clarke, Chris Hamrick [HamrickCE on YouTube], to list a few you likely know), to say it CANNOT start and end a day later is wrong, and should not be adamantly stated without qualification.

    I'll go one step further: based upon all God has shown us about Revelation 12, the fact this "great sign" falls on the Sabbath and the meaning thereof, which furthermore makes this Sabbath a High Sabbath because of falling on the same day as the Feast of Trumpets, and because of the enormous volume of beyond phenomenal insight and information revealed on this absolutely fabulous site (www.unsealed.org), why would God trash all that and have the Rapture happen on a far less significant day--on Friday (when “the Last Trump” would occur IF the "Jewish Civil Calendar" were correct...and, by the way, the day chosen to be honored by Muslims, since THEY think of Saturday as being for Jews and Sunday for Christians), instead of ending on the 23rd (at "the Last Trump"), the day of the "great sign"? Here is a concession by me: the 21st fits all kinds of amazing date alignments and numbers as pointed out by Daniel Matson (watchfortheday.org). Kind of goes along with “not knowing the day or the hour”...but Jesus never said: “Or the week”...or even ”within a few days”!

  28. I may have said this before but will say it again. The people gathered here on Unsealed and on Revelation 12 daily you are all "Rockstars of the Faith!" I have been inspired, uplifted, prayed for when I needed it badly, and lastly even thanked for my research and links and though all Glory is to the LORD, it feels good to know you are making a difference especially when I am mostly just planting seeds (LINKS) and praying they will be watered by other Christians. The world is feeling the shaking let's all finish strong and have an answer for the hope that is within us with gentleness and respect. God bless you all.

  29. Even while I accept the line-up is both exceptional and meaningful, I question it is meaningful in quite the way assumed or that (as some imagine) it times the Rapture event itself. The problem with the Sign as currently described, is that there is an insistence it supplies twelve stars as crown for Virgo. NO!

    It has always been understood and was so at the time of the Revelator, that Virgo ALREADY has a twelve starred crown at Berenice's Lock. You can't possibly lopsidedly make an entire constellation of the Lion into the crown of another constellation and by the simple addition, however rare, of some moving planets as opposed to fixed stars. This isn't astronomy, astrology, theology or anything that quite makes sense. So what does and would make sense in context - which let's say is some kind of climax such as is expected by many for this year?

    What is happening by virtue of a rare line-up of planets is a joining of two constellations in a union of what traditionally as in Egypt was deemed the beginning and end of the zodiac - a sign of completion. Not every zodiac begins at Aries and ends at Pisces although much could be made of the fact that by more traditional and commonly used astrology (yes, pagan astrology and the Wise Men were pagans and Deuteronomy does say the stars are given to the Gentiles) we are at the very end of the Piscean era to whose onset the birth of Jesus approximately corresponded. It is however the old Virgo to Leo zodiac that "biblical astronomy" has appropriated as appearing to chart a salvation story.

    Whatever....the fact that 23rd September falls on a natural Sabbath (and the day after the Feast of Trumpets is supposed according to Leviticus to be observed like a Sabbath whether it is such or not),is suggestive of the same constellation and zodiac-joining theme, a union, a conclusion and/or new beginning for either Christianity or Judaism or both. I might say more but this could get too long and what I say may only be ignored because it doesn't correspond to what people here may prefer to assume. But I feel it needs some pondering or believers risk tripping up again over apocalyptic themes.

  30. What we are discussing here is truly significant. After thinking carefully about the subject matter, I can offer at least another 2 "coincidences" to consider here. 1) This happens on Sept 23rd, which is during the astronomical event called Equinox, when the length of day exactly equals the length of the night - regardless of the latitude coordinates on Earth. This must be so to ensure that every region on Earth receives a chance of seeing the alignment, and thus receiving the guiding Starlight, because when day equals to night in duration, everywhere at some time time during the day/night cycle, the Virgo constellation and at least the Moon and some planets, can be seen. 2) The Virgo Constellation is located on the Celestial Equator - and this means precisely that it can be observed on any night of the year from wherever in the World. Not far from Orion. Very Wise Words in the Book, and the Divine Choice of the Timing for The Sign given to us all. No doubts left, practically. I will not doubt even that the weather forecasts for the nights surrounding the event will be "clear" in most of the World. Awesomely shocking, and shockingly Awesome!

  31. I read an article this evening that cited September 5, 1293 as another time when this sign occurred. It said:

    "September 5, 1293
    This one is close; Venus, Mars and Mercury are aligned above her head near Leo, Jupiter is in her womb, clothed in the sun, moon at her feet… but it happened 655 years before Israel was re-established. Also, Yom Teruah would have been on Sept. 10-11 according to http://www.hebcal.com"

    The re-establishment of Israel or the date of Yom Teruah has nothing to do with it. Either the sign occurred or it didn't. Could you address this please? Thank you.

    1. Hello, my chart above looks at that year and it is close, but doesn't match.

    2. Yes, but I am wondering "why" it doesn't match. The Stellarium frame for 9/5/1293 looks almost exactly like what will be seen on 9/23/17 with all the individual elements in place. That is what concerns me. Please explain WHY 9/5/1293 is not also a match. (i.e., Please define exactly what "no" for pregnancy and birth before labor in the chart mean. What are the criteria for those categories.)

      Thanks again.

    3. That date has no Jupiter in the womb and no moon at her feet. If Jupiter doesn't retrograde inside vergo you cannot have a baby born.

  32. Rev 12 .3 picture is repeated perfectly in 2021-8-10 as it was is 23rd Sept 2017 so its not THAT rare... However after 2021 it doesn't happen again until 2027. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH, the software to research the stars is available online



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