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Major Discovery Concerning Revelation 12



Next month is The Great American Eclipse and the month after is The Great Sign.  For those of you who have followed our articles on the Revelation 12 Sign, you know that we openly admit that we don't know for sure the day or the hour of the rapture, but we do recognize that a strong case can be made that the male child in Revelation 12 represents the Church in union with Christ and therefore Revelation 12:5 portrays the pre-tribulational rapture of the Church.  Therefore, the rapture may not occur in close proximity to the September 23rd sign itself, but the sign is pointing forward to the general nearness of our departure.

I was recently studying Paul's letter to the church in Galatia and I stumbled across what might be the pivotal clue we've all been looking for, but first, let's review the existing reasons why the male child in Revelation 12:5 should be identified as the Church:

1. The Church is twice called a man (Ephesians 2:15, 4:13) and the most common metaphor in the Bible for the Church is actually the "Body of Christ", rather than the "Bride of Christ".  That is not to say the Church is not also Christ's Bride, but that as far as metaphors go, and there are many, the "Body of Christ" is the one most frequently used (e.g. 1 Corinthians 10:16-17, 12:12-13, 25-27; Romans 12:4-5; Colossians 1:18, 24, 2:19, 3:15; Ephesians 4:4, 11-13).  So to say that the male child is only Christ would be to neglect these many other Scriptures.

2. The Apostle John intentionally made a grammatical error in Revelation 12:5 by modifying masculine huios (son) with neuter arsen.  He is clearly connecting this particular male child with the male child in Isaiah 66, which is a corporate entity.

3. Revelation 12:5 says that the male child "will rule all the nations with a rod of iron" and Revelation 2:26-27 informs us that the Church "will rule them with a rod of iron".

4. Identifying the male child as the Church preserves the corporate symbolism in Revelation 12.  The woman is Israel, the dragon is the satanic world system that arises under Satan and the antichrist, and the child is the Church.

5. The male child is raptured in Revelation 12:5.  The Greek word used is harpazo, which means "caught up" or "snatched up" and it is the word used for the rapture of the Church in 1 Thessalonians 4:17.  Every single mention of Jesus' ascension is described using the words epairo or anabaino, both of which indicate a gradual rising, not a violent snatching away (harpazo).  Revelation 12:5 is a clear connection to the rapture event.

6. The context of Revelation 12 is the Tribulation and Revelation 1:1 indicates the vision is yet future.  Reading past events into the passage would be a violation of a number of important exegetical principles and also a violation of the text's prima facie meaning.

7. Revelation 12:5 was the original proof-text of the modern dispensational movement and the founders of modern pre-tribulationism recognized it as such (e.g. John Darby, Harry Ironside, etc).

8. The raptured child in Revelation 12:5b is called teknon (informal child), rather than huios (son of honor), which is strange considering that Jesus is exclusively called huios in the Scriptures, except on a single occasion by his mother (Luke 2:48).  In addition, the Apostle John uses teknon to refer to the Church as the children of God in his first epistle (1 John 3:1-2, 10, 5:2), and uses huios exclusively to refer to Christ in his gospel and first epistle (John 1:49, 59, 3:13, 16, 5:19, 14:13, 1 John 3:8, 4:15, 5:5, 5:20).  To assume John is suddenly changing course in Revelation 12 would be contrary to all evidence.

9. Any mention of Jesus' life, death, and resurrection in Revelation 12 is sorely lacking if indeed the male child is Christ.  These missing details have confounded scholars for centuries in addition to the fact that the child is raptured to Heaven shortly after birth with seemingly no intervening period of time.  These missing details suggest that the male child is the Church.

...And now on to what I found in Galatians, which is point #10.

Let's start with Galatians 3:16:

Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, 'And to offsprings,' referring to many, but referring to one, 'And to your offspring,' who is Christ.

The Apostle Paul makes a critical argument in this verse.  He says that you should go back and look at the Abrahamic Covenant in Genesis (specifically Genesis 13:15, 15:5, and 17:8).  He then says that you should do a grammatical study on the word used for offspring or seed and take notice that the noun is in the singular rather than plural form.  It is almost unheard of for one of the Bible's many authors to walk their audience through a grammar study.  What in the world is Paul doing?

It was already well established that the Abrahamic Covenant was a promise apart from the law to bless all the families and nations of the earth.  Abraham was promised not just one, but many offspring, "as numerous as the stars in the sky and as the sand on the seashore" (Genesis 22:17; see also Genesis 15:5).  Yet here in Galatians 3:16 Paul zeroes in on a single noun.  His conclusion is that the singular male offspring promised to Abraham is Christ.  Christ is the true Son of Promise.  Christ is the singular seed.  Christ is the male child of Genesis 3:15 and the later Abrahamic Covenant.

So is Paul contradicting the corporate aspect of the promise to Abraham?  Is he saying there will not be many?  Here is the prophetic linchpin in Paul's concluding remarks in the passage:

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.  And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's [singular] offspring, heirs according to promise.
- Galatians 3:28-29


Paul makes the unequivocal statement that Believers are united in Christ.  The many are one.  And he drives his point home by saying that through faith the Church is the singular male child promised to Abraham.  The Greek is as clear as day (see here).

While some of the earlier points (#1-9, especially #1) hint at this truth, Galatians 3:29 spells it out directly (and notice the 923 backwards!).  There is now direct Scriptural support for identifying the male child in Revelation 12:5 with the Church in addition to all the circumstantial evidence.

To summarize:

10. The Church in union with Christ is the singular male child promised to Abraham.

You can read a more detailed study of the first eight points here and here.

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81 comments:

  1. This is beautiful, Gary. Thank you for studying the written word so faithfully and sharing these jewels. The closer we get to The Day I continue to be so overcome, often weeping, to witness the whole of Scripture and God's heart be made clearer and clearer.

    I wanted to share another gem that I wrote about recently regarding the male child of Rev. 12. We have the prophecy given to the serpent in Gen. 3:15--

    And I will put enmity
    Between you and the woman,
    And between your seed and her Seed;
    He shall bruise your head,
    And you shall bruise His heel.

    Then we have the descriptive passages of the dragon waiting to devour the child as soon as it is born, and the child caught up to "God and his throne" followed by a war in heaven. It could be that this is the time this prophecy is fulfilled, as we have these beautiful prophetic words by Paul:

    "And the God of peace will crush Satan under your feet shortly." Rom. 16:20a

    I rejoice to witness this come together!

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    1. Thank you! That's a very interesting connection. Genesis 3:15 is typically interpreted as satan's head crushed (at the Cross) and Christ's heel bruised (at the Cross).

      Perhaps Romans 16:20 indicates that Genesis 3:15 is really about the Messiah's Body - the Church and our soon victory over satan. Or at the very least, perhaps it's about both Christ and the Church.

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    2. Thomas Kamper7/12/2017 5:03 AM

      Unsure if you gentleman have also noticed as the poster quoted the verse of bruising the serpents head and the serpent his heel and it reminded me of something I've noticed and wouldn't have were it not for the rev12 sign. Draco the sign in astronomy or serpent rests under the heel of Hercules.

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    3. Add in Jesus washing the disciples feet... and all those other foot related metaphors...

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  2. Hey Gary. I posted this on the forum too. Genesis 12 1-2 is: Now the Lord said to Abram, "Go from your country and your kindred and your father's house to the land that I will show you. And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you and make your name great, so that you will be a blessing.
    Genesis 12:1‭-‬2 ESV
    The same verses that describe the woman in Rev. 12!
    And, Genesis 12 5 is:
    And Abram took Sarai his wife, and Lot his brother's son, and all their possessions that they had gathered, and the people that they had acquired in Haran, and they set out to go to the land of Canaan. When they came to the land of Canaan,
    Genesis 12:5 ESV
    Which could be a picture of the Rapture: God's people moving to fulfill God's promises.

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    1. Amazing connection.

      Compare also Leviticus 12:1-2

      The chapter/verse numbers match between

      Genesis 12
      Leviticus 12
      Revelation 12

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    2. And also Psalm 45, a picture of the Bride of Christ: "Listen, O daughter, give attention and incline your ear,; Forget your people and your father's house. The King is enthralled by your beauty......her gown is interwoven with gold. In embroidered garments she is led to the king...". A beautiful picture of the Marriage supper of the Lamb after the rapture. This is what we have to focus on as we see the day approaching. To some, it seems scary and hard to believe, but maybe we should think more about the fact that all Heaven is excited beyond what we can comprehend awaiting the arrival of the Manchild, and has been preparing the Party with great anticipation when the kingdoms of the world will become the kingdoms of our Lord and we will rule and reign with Him forever.

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  3. Great article!

    If the male child of Rev 12 was Jesus Christ, several questions come to mind.

    Why didn't Jesus flee from the devil in the desert?
    Why didn't the devil attempt to devour Jesus during the temptation if that was the devil's goal?
    Was Jesus ever in danger of being killed by the devil or anyone else?

    Jesus's words form John 10:18a comes to mind: "No one takes my life from me."

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  4. Absolutely fantastic scripture study. It amazes me how it is pouring in these days. Unsealed is right! Amen and hallelujah, soon and very soon we are going to see Our King!

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  5. "And when the seventh month had come, and the children of Israel were in the cities, the people gathered together as one man to Jerusalem."

    7th month = Tishri 1 = September 21st 2017
    children
    gathered together
    as one man
    .... man child
    Read more: http://unsealed.boards.net/thread/386/ezra-link-rev-12-sign#ixzz4mZMuw1qm

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    1. Nehemiah 7 verse 73:
      ... When the seventh month came, the children of Israel were in their cities.

      Nehemiah 8 verse 1:
      Now all the people gathered together as one man in the open square that was in front of the Water Gate; and they told Ezra the scribe to bring the Book of the Law of Moses, which the Lord had commanded Israel. 2 So Ezra the priest brought the Law before the assembly of men and women and all who could hear with understanding on the first day of the seventh month. 3 Then he read from it in the open square that was in front of the Water Gate from morning until midday, before the men and women and those who could understand; and the ears of all the people were attentive to the Book of the Law.

      Revelations: “He who has an ear, let him hear"

      Read more: http://unsealed.boards.net/thread/386/ezra-link-rev-12-sign

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    2. "on the first day of the seventh month" = Tishri 1 = September 21st 2017
      "children of Israel"
      "gathered together"
      "as one man" ... man child!

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    3. This is brilliant! I think I mentioned this in an older post about Trump and some connections to Ezra/Nehemiah, but I need to post that again.

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    4. Yes, I would love to read it. Please post it again.

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    5. Here you go: http://www.unsealed.org/2017/03/is-book-of-nehemiah-playing-out-in-2017.html

      I apparently didn't catch the reference to "children" though. That may play an important part. I'd be curious to see if the passage uses the word teknon as is used in Rev. 12:5.

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    6. Whaaaattttt! /jaw drop!

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    7. Looks like in the book of Ezra Chapter 3 the word used for "children" is Strong's Hebrew 1121: "ben"
      http://biblehub.com/kjvs/ezra/3.htm

      Original Word: בֵּן
      Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
      Transliteration: ben
      Phonetic Spelling: (bane)
      Short Definition: sons
      Definition: son

      WOW! "son"!


      In Nehemiah chapter 7, the Hebrew uses the exact same word for "children": "ben" -- "son"

      Definitely "male child"

      I think we are getting in some very interesting territory.
      Gary, your article on Nehemiah was awesome too!

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    8. http://biblehub.com/interlinear/ezra/3-1.htm

      Ezra 3:1
      HEB: הַחֹ֣דֶשׁ הַשְּׁבִיעִ֔י וּבְנֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל בֶּעָרִ֑ים
      NAS: came, and the sons of Israel
      KJV: was come, and the children of Israel
      INT: month the seventh and the sons of Israel the cities

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    9. What a confirmation. Thank you for the reminder, James.

      Ezra 3:1, "...one man gathered together..." On the Feast of Trumpets, the first of the seventh month. The Hebrew in Ezra 3:1 translated "children," is "bene" (sons), and the Greek is "huioi" (sons).

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    10. Gary, maybe it's time to revise your Nehemiah article from March...
      :-D

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  6. The man child is Jesus at the throne of God; He will rule with a rod of iron during the Millennium. The woman is the Bride of Jesus made ready at Rev 19:7. The Resurrection is at the 7th Trumpet (1 For 15:52; 1 Thess 4:17) exactly 1 day before the Wedding of the Lamb. Rev 12 describes the final 1260 days (Rev 12:6) How does one arrive at a Pre-Trib Rapture from this?

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    1. And who will rule and reign with Christ with a rod of iron? (Hint read Revelations 2 and skip to the bottom)

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    2. So The Bride of Jesus just gave birth to Jesus???

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    3. I hate to be like this, but don't respond to this dude. He is only here to stir up trouble.

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    4. Amen Howard and thank you for pointing out that there IS NO "rapture". We are told over and over in the Word that the FALSE Christ comes 1st! Antichrist will come FIRST, to try to fool most of the world into believing he is our messiah. WAIT for the TRUE Christ, who shall come in gloriously at the 7th seal, 7th trump, and 7th vial. Read Matthew 24, Mark 13 & Luke 21. Not too late. (yet)

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  7. Born Again followers of JESUS. The rest will await the Judgment Seat 1000 Yrs later.

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    1. I recommend you catch up... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGkaSXIrss0

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  8. One thing, while I think the sign is genuine, I also think some people are taking the implications too far in trying to nail down September as a date for the Rapture. Yeah it could happen, but Revelation 12 indicates that the child is raptured AFTER the sign and after verses 3-4. I haven't seen a clear explanation on how verses 3-4 play out.

    Then there's another set of verses I found in Song of Solomon, which I maintain is talking about the relation of Christ to His church and not kinky Hebrew poetry. For instance, SoS chapters 3 and 5 coincide with the wise and foolish virgins of Matthew 25 respectively (which is written to the Jews who missed the Rapture due to missing the Messiah). What I found in SoS 2:8-13 could indicate a spring rapture, around late-April to early-May. I wouldn't build a doctrine on this, and all I'm saying is that there are too many people making sensational videos on YouTube that claim that September 21-23 IS the Rapture.

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    1. Agreed. All of this is absolutely and purely speculation. All of it!
      Nobody here can see into the future.

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    2. I can see why people might come to the conclusion that the male child is born after verses 1-2, but keep in mind the text doesn't actually say that. That's an inference from the fact that verse 5 is written later in the narrative. Isaiah 66 does give us some timing clues though and it says the baby is born *before* the woman goes into labor. If the male child in 12:5 is the same as the male child in Isaiah 66, then Revelation 12:1-2 takes place shortly after 12:5.

      We are speculating though, but I can see a Scriptural case for a rapture before the Rev 12 Sign... or after. Like Greg L from A Little Strength says, this Great Sign is the Church's exit sign. We don't know the exact day of our exit, but the sign says it's close.

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    3. Dear friends you still have to consider 1 Corinthians 15,52 as the exact timeframe and moment for the rapture. So Rev12-sign announced the period and season but the Feast of Trumpets will actually be the date when it happens! MARANATHA

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    4. Let us realize that God has set this date, not man. We are just dillegently following the Star like the wise men who followed the Star that brought them to the Messiah.

      Amplified Version: "When they saw the Star, they were thrilled with ecstatic joy."
      "ecstatic": overwhelming emotion; rapturous delight
      Message: "Then the Star appeared again, the same Star they had seen in the eastern skies. It led them on until it hovered over the place of the child. They COULD HARDLY CONTAIN THEMSELVES. They WERE IN THE RIGHT PLACE. They had ARRIVED AT THE RIGHT TIME. They arrived at the house and saw the child in the arms of Mary. OVERCOME they worshipped him". This is type and shadow of NOW. I do not apologize, at the age of 79, saved 40years, to say that I am beside myself and overjoyed to realize that this date has been set by Almighty God and I wholeheartedly say that I am in agreement with Him that this will happen at the "last TRUMP". Good job Gary.



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    5. Wow Carol! That was a blessing to read! Thank you!

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  9. Great article Gary, well done!

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    1. Thank you Sam and thank you also for your continual encouragement. Looking up!

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  10. barbiosheepgirl7/11/2017 10:16 PM

    Gary, that is brilliant! Why is it that all those in centuries past could not interpret Rev 12:5 like how is presented here? Perhaps a loaded question, but it seems obvious to me. Why is this? Comparing scripture to scripture and taking original language meaning...didn't they do this all these years? or, is it that many only rely on English translations? 40 days from Eclipse tomorrow...

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    1. Here's my theory: there are primarily three reasons:

      1. The global Church/Christendom has largely held to Augustinian eschatology for most of its existence. Augustine favored allegorizing prophecy and not reading it for its plain meaning. His theology is still deeply entrenched in Catholicism, Orthodoxy, and mainline Protestantism. It wasn't until the 18th and 19th centuries that some Evangelicals really began to challenge the prevailing views and suggest that Christians needed to get back to the Scriptures and read them for what they plainly say.

      2. The discovery of the sign itself, which happens on 9/23, opened our eyes to see that Revelation 12:1-2 was a literal, not figurative, prophecy. Once we realized that, it allowed us to dig deeper and connect the dots.

      3. God's providential timing. If indeed the September alignment is the REV12SIGN, then perhaps God didn't want the Church to be aware of it is ages past because that would have a profoundly negative impact on the Church's general sanctity and longing for the LORD.

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    2. I second that Gary! Amen!

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    3. Yes, the LORD opening up this understanding of Revelation 12 can be likened to Martin Luther rediscovering the gospel (justification by faith) by reading Romans 1:16-17. The time was ripe.

      And in these last of the last days, a renaissance of eschatology has become the focus. The saints are being enlightened on the events of the end as the Day approaches! All according to plan.

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    4. The reason past generations could not know this is that the software to chart PAST and FUTURE celestial events was only recently created. That's what Gabriel meant in Daniel 12:4 when he said "...knowledge shall increase". It's also the reason Gabriel told Daniel in the same verse to "...shut up the words and seal the book, until the time of the end", then in verse 9: "Go your way, Daniel, for the words are shut up and sealed until the time of the end". PTL, that time is NOW.

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  11. barbiosheepgirl7/11/2017 10:20 PM

    let me clarify my pronouns..."it seems obvious to me" is in reference to the interpretation of the Child. ugh, I must preview before posting...

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  12. It looks to me like Scottie may have made a mistake concluding that the Revelation 12 man child is the Body of Christ. The book of Revelation is definitely a book about the future so we know it's not about Jesus' birth but we also have to keep in mind to rightly divide the word of truth 2nd Timothy 2:15. With that being said, when we read about the seven churches, Paul's gospel of Grace through faith is completely missing. What's happening is that Jesus is addressing the Jewish assemblies and we mistakingly have attributed them as the Body of Christ. We constantly see that you have to "Overcome" until the end and "Works" are needed so this can't be the Church/Body of Christ believers Jesus is addressing. I've come to the conclusion that the complete book of Revelation is addressed to the Jews only as there isn't any evidence that the 24 elders are the representatives of the Body of Christ either.

    So since the entire book of Revelation is addressed to and is about the Jews with the Church/Body of Christ nowhere to be found, the Revelation 12 man child can't be Church age believers. The Revelation 12 man child are the 144,000 Jewish male virgins and that makes sense as the Church was never told we would be Kings and Priests that would reign with Christ in Jerusalem. Our eternal residence and destiny is Heaven and the Earth is for the Jews

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    1. Dear btmusicman, what about Revelation 20,6 = Jews only?? So do you NOT have part in the first resurrection as Christian from the Gentiles? Did I get the whole gospel wrong now? Oh, my! I'm lost then! ;-))

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    2. "Who is it that overcomes the world? Only the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God." - 1 John 5:5

      Overcome = Salvation through faith alone

      Overcoming does not equate with works.

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    3. Annabel,

      Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
      Revelation 20:6 KJV

      This has nothing to do with the Church/body of Christ as we're never told we will reign with Christ as priests of God, this is completely Jewish. The Church has already been raptured 7 years before this event anyway and in Heaven

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    4. "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light." - 1 Peter 2:9

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    5. Gary

      2nd Timothy 2:15 teaches us to rightly divide the word of truth, we cannot mix doctrines and administrations together.Hebrews through Revelation are all Tribulation books and the audience is Jewish. Jesus plainly tells us what he means by overcoming and it all has to do with the Daniel's 70th week and enduring until the end. There is no way we can get around the fact that overcoming and works is never used as a means of Salvation in Paul's gospel

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    6. I agree with the principle of rightly dividing the Word of truth, but I disagree with how you're going about doing it. John, the author of Revelation, defines in 1 John 5:5 (which happens to be between Hebrews and Revelation) what it means to overcome and it doesn't have anything to do with works.

      Aside from that, the churches in Revelation 2-3 are called churches, not synagogues. The New Testament makes a distinction between the two.

      And most importantly, in the current dispensation there is no distinction between Jew and Gentile for salvation (Gal. 3:28). The first Christians were Jews. Not only the Apostles and Disciples, but also the 3,000 foreign Jews gathered at Pentecost. But as time went on and the Church grew, many of the Jewish converts to Christianity began returning to the Law and abandoning the Gospel, hence the epistles to these Jewish converts were written.

      I see the points you're making though and respect your view. I appreciate your faith in the Gospel. We may have to agree to disagree.

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    7. You are right when you say the New Testament makes a difference between the two but where we disagree is the New Testament ends with Paul's Gospel and the Old Testament is resumed though the Tribulation books of Hebrews through Revelation. With that being said the word Church definitely was used to describe the Jews in the OT Isaiah 43. "God comforteth the Church with his promises"
      Isaiah 49. "God's constant love for His Church"
      Isaiah 66. "The gathering of all nations into One Church"
      Ezekiel 37. "The blessings of Christ's Kingdom"
      Micah 4. "The Church's glory - victory of the Church".... So Revelation 2 and 3 doesn't have to refer to the Body of Christ when using the word Church as it just means an assembly.

      It seems that you believe we are definitely in a dispensation currently so I don't understand how you don't see the difference in tone between Romans-Philemon and Hebrews-Revelation as they're addressing completely different audiences. Anyway, much love from another brother in Christ

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    8. Out of curiosity I searched the old testament using Bible Hub and found that largely only the Douey-Rheims bible translates a certain word as 'Church.'

      King James and most of the others translate that as congregation or community. The Body of Christ (the true Church) was a mystery until God revealed it unto Paul. So though we may find shadows of it in the OT, it's true revelation and meaning is found in the NT.

      It may be that a faulty or biased translation has led you to this potentially wrong understanding, please investigate it. Or perhaps I've misunderstood and you are categorizing these passages?

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    9. http://www.matthewmcgee.org/7church.html

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    10. I'm just going to come out and say it. btmusicman, it's wrong. Flat out wrong.
      The very first verse in Revelations 1 plainly states:
      "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants."

      Non-Believing Jews are not Jesus Christ's servants. Believers in Christ are the servants of Christ. Paul proves this with his very first verse in Romans: "Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God"

      btmusicman, you've been completely deceived by false doctrine.

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    11. James O I'm decieved because I understand how to rightly divide? Hmmmm...... Israel and the body of Christ aren't the same and if we don't understand who each book/letter is addressing then that's when error arrives and contradictions happen, we cannot ignore the fact that Paul's letters from Romans to Philemon are a totally different gospel than the books of Hebrews to Revelation. The Church/body of Christ is not addressed anymore after the book of Philemon but if you want to continue attributing things meant for Israel to the body of Christ then that's on you

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    12. Ahh... OK. lets just continue reading verse 1 of Revelations...

      "And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John, 2 who bore witness to the word of God, and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, to all things that he saw."

      So John is also servant of Jesus Christ. I wonder if Jews are servants of Christ...? Let's Ask Jesus...

      In the book of John (you know, the same author of Revelations)
      John 10
      24 The Jews surrounded him. They asked him, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Messiah, tell us plainly.”
      25 Jesus answered them, “I’ve told you, but you don’t believe me. The things that I do in my Father’s name testify on my behalf. 26 However, you don’t believe because you’re not my sheep. 27 My sheep respond to my voice, and I know who they are. They follow me, 28 and I give them eternal life. They will never be lost, and no one will tear them away from me. 29 My Father, who gave them to me, is greater than everyone else, and no one can tear them away from my Father. 30 The Father and I are one.”

      SO ... Jesus said no. Jews are not servants of Jesus Christ, of which the Revelation of John was written too.


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  13. Awesome. I get amazed also at John 16:21, and how the greek words of anguish can mean 'persecution' and 'tribulation', the words 'her hour' has come could refer to the hour of Jacobs trouble, and the first use of the word 'child' in the verse is neuter, whereas the second is masculine. "Whenever a woman is in labor she has pain, because her hour has come; but when she gives birth to the child, she no longer remembers the anguish because of the joy that a child has been born into the world".

    And we typically don't associate this verse with verse 16 "“A little while, and you will no longer see Me; and again a little while, and you will see Me.”

    Amazing...

    Ryan D

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  14. @Gary dear brother this is stunning! Thank you! I found another article with an interview of M. Svigel on the revelation12daily website hinting now to Daniel 7 have a look there into verses 13+27 especially! This might be food enough for another of your articles! MARANATHA dear, love to see you soon in the air ;-)

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  15. Super great article (as always). I don't think "Apostle John intentionally made a grammatical error" I think he did it for us to have a deeper understanding later. Anyways can't wait to meet y'all in the clouds; hopefully this fall.

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    1. Great article. May I suggest that you get a free copy of "The Season of the Rapture: God's Three-Fold Witness". On page 161 is a 3D perspective of what takes place on September 20-23. This puts it all in perspective. Get pastor Bob e-book. E-mail to EvanTeachr@aol.com.

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    Dear Unsealed:

    This is all fantastic to read as well as the comments by visitors.

    Why not also do a special article about Rev Ch 15 Sign and the 7 stars of the Pleiades (7 bowls of God's anger)? That is 7 years from now(!) and is quite scary. It could bring more people who are curious to believe in these things.

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    1. Thank you!

      Check this out: http://www.unsealed.org/2017/02/signs-in-heavens-second-advent.html

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  17. I have some comments and questions:

    1) What if this ‘rescue’ does not occur in September? Should we expect something in October or November then? Is it not true that Jupiter leaves Virgo completely in October? I have seen that Venus and Jupiter are in conjunction on 13 November of 2017. There is a rumour going around that this autumn could be some asteroid/meteor problems coming to the Earth.
    I recommend 'Soul Evolution' video channel on YouTube. He or she is not Christian, but I think it's quite poignant.

    2) Does anyone remember the 1986 film ‘Labyrinth” with David Bowie? The character of Bowie was an evil sorcerer, a Satanic figure in the film. In one scene, while he is holding an infant child on his lap, he says to the child, “In exactly 9 hours and 23 minutes, you’ll be mine!” Then all the demonic puppet goblin creatures around him break into laughter and shouting. Of all the hours and minutes they could have chosen. And it’s a Satanic figure waiting to attack or devour the baby? How about that?

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    1. David Bowie's Black Star album is about the Black Star Saturn. Bowie as the Ancient Astronaut was the character Astronaut David Woman in 2001: A Space Odyssey which was written to end on Saturn but changed to Jupiter. The movie Interstellar actually did feature Saturn.

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  18. Hi Gary, great stuff, thanks, please also have a look at Ephesians chapter 1 and then notice in verse 10, the gathering of the church, those that are already waiting and us who remain and are still alive on this planet...

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  19. and doesn't the Book of Revelation conclude with these words? "I Jesus have sent my angel to you to witness and give you assurance of these things for the churches (assemblies)." (Amplified : Rev. 22:16. From beginning of Rev. to end, , it is written to the churches. We, all the redeemed, Old and New Testament believers are His "two" witnesses, the "two olive trees (natural and grafted-in)" and the "two candlesticks (explained in beginning of Rev. and also in Zachariah as being "churches".

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    1. "It is appointed unto man once do die but after this the judgement" Her 9:27 The only 2 people who have never died before being taken to Heaven are Enoch (Seth's) and Elijah. They will fill this scripture prophesying 1260 days during the Great Tribulation. Satan will kill them mid-week of Daniel's 70th Week; they will lie in the streets of Jerusalem 3 1/2 Days and rise at the Last Trumpet. They are God's 2 Witnesses

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  20. Here’s a thought Gary that I’d love to have you chime in on.

    We know that Isaiah 66:7 discusses a birth before labor pains begin, and we can see a possible example of this birth around September 9th in the Heavens through the movement of Jupiter prior to the September 23rd alignment. If the birth date is actually near the September 9th date as programs like Stellarium suggest, couldn’t a potential rapture take place between September 9th and the 23rd? I understand that the feast of trumpets is a great picture of the future rapture based on Jewish Idioms and historic rituals, but couldn’t the rapture still take place before that date, especially since we read how the dragon was ready to devour the child the moment he was born? Furthermore, if the rapture doesn’t take place on a future Feast of Trumpets, we’d then have to consider what else the feast could be marking...the Day of the Lord...the sounding of the first trumpet in revelation...something else?

    Any input on this would be greatly appreciated.

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  21. Shame on you Joel R. To kindly disagree with 23 sept is one thing, to openly mock it on your twitter feed is ungodly.

    Joel wrote "not sure whether Aug 26 or Sept 23 will bear more disappointment. First Conor McGregor will lose to Floyd Mayweather. Then, there will be no rapture"

    RD

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    1. Mockery and joking will turn to a dreadful fright in the stomach WHEN it kicks off.

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  22. 1] The Feast of Trumpets (the Lord's New Yer) ends on 9/23 when the Rev 12 sign arises in Israel around 8pm (In its perfect, unique planetary alignment. Cannot see it here in the US because of the sun, but visible to Israel/ God's Holy Land). During the Feast of Trumpets the Jews will sound/blow the shofar (i.e. trumpet) 100 times. If I may suggest, it is NOT the 7 trumpet judgments of Revelation, BUT it is the last trump from the shofar during the Feast of Trumpets!!!! This is the beginning of the Lord's New Year, the Jewish/Hebrew year 5778! So take ALL Bible verses relating to the last trump and point them to the Feast of Trumpets. Jesus has fulfilled the first four Spring Feasts, He has yet to fulfill the Fall Feasts (Trumpets | Rosh Hashana | Yom Teruah), Atonement (Yom Kippur), and Tabernacles (Sukkot). I feel strongly the Feast of Trumpets 2017 (70yr anniversary of the state of Israel) is divinely special.

    2] The Rev 12 sign is a dual prophecy. The Rev 12 sign appeared on 9/11/3BC, The Feast of Trumpets and perhaps Christ's conception/birth? TBD Scottie Clark and others have done this. However, the planetary configuration for the upcoming Rev 12 sign this Sept 23 is different. There was no Mars in 3BC. Mars (Michael, the warring angel) witll be aligned with Venus (Jesus, the Bright Morning Star), Mercury (Gabriel, the messenger angel), and Regulus (the King Star). In 3BC, Jupiter was in conjunction with Regulus whereas this coming Sept, Jupiter will be exiting Virgo (where it has been for nine months) possibly giving birth to His Kingdom (to include the Church). Having Mars in this alignment indicates/ symbolozies of things to come (i.e. war, Ezek 38-39 etc....) post/during Sept 23.

    The Total Eclipse happens 33 days prior to the Rev 12 alignment and 40 days prior to the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur)..... Wow, God's astronomical timeclock is AWESOME!

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  23. The question is whether God used Jupiter/Zeus in the Womb of Virgo, clothed with the Sun, the moon at her feet and a crown of Leo (Egypt used the 9 Stars of Leo to represent the Double Crown of Pharaoh) to represent Israel? Jesus refers to Jerusalem as "Spiritually, Sodom and Egypt" in Rev 11:8. Mars in the 2017 alignment indicates War (Mars is Ares and Nergal the Roman, Greek and Babylonian god of War) "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon..." Rev 12:7

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    1. Go back to -3914 on 8/4 and you will find Saturn(Satan) in the crown, in 2017 9/23 he is no longer king. The war in the heavens shows that he is no longer in the crown.

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  24. So many signs now so that "His house will be full." Add the book of
    Daniel is open and easily followed. daniel11truth.com

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  25. 1 Corinthians 1:22 says, "For Jews demand a sign and Greeks (gentiles) seek WISDOM..." So, what is the GREAT sign that will turn the apostate hearts of the Jews to Jesus the Messiah? Romans 11:25-26 says, "Lest you be WISE [Paul's talking to gentiles] in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware [agnoeo, meaning to not recognize, to be ignorant through lack of intelligence or information] of this mystery [something that is veiled for a time, until the veil is suddenly lifted], brothers [adelphus/a = alpha + delphus = the womb...the Church]: a partial hardening (of the heart) has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles [the Rapture] has come in [only God knows the final number of Believers]. And in this way all Israel will be saved..." Could the Great Sign in the Sky on September 23 be a sign that the Sign of the Rapture is about to take place, signifying the impending Salvation of the Jews?

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    1. Did you catch that? The Greek word for "brothers" (aka the Church) is adelphus, which literally means "from the same WOMB".

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  26. Well, I have to ask.....what happens to the scripture: This generation shall not pass until all these things are fulfilled......if we don't go home this month?

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  27. https://youtu.be/9UyRfEONfA4

    https://youtu.be/cV1E5_jDXKY

    https://youtu.be/Z6KPBYjywiE

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  29. I was studying before I ran into your website, and it's amazing I see it written down, so thank you. I came to the same conclusion also because of the next verse, the woman, (Israel) flees in the wilderness and feed her there a **thousand two hundred and threescore days**. Then I read this Rev 11 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a **thousand two hundred and threescore days**, clothed in sackcloth. For the same amount of time. Also I wonder if feed means prophesy , if you search the scripture you will find similarities, feed = prophesy.... in context about Jesus Christ so that they're (Israel) saved. While 14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent... is the Great Tribulation Timme - NOURISHMENT, n. Revelation

    1. That which serves to promote the growth of animals or plants, or to repair the waste of animal bodies; food; sustenance; nutriment.

    Or what do you think will happen? After we, the child are caught up? Do you have another article you could direct me? I loved this article.

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  30. "Revelation 12 represents the Church in union with Christ and therefore Revelation 12:5 portrays the pre-tribulational rapture of the Church"

    First pretribulationists said that the rapture happens in Revelation 4:1 because after that verse the church is no more mentioned in the remaining of the book of Revelation.
    Now you says that the rapture of the church happens in Revelation 12:5!

    Whatever, pretribers never stop distorting and falsely dividing the word of God to force their false pretribulation rapture wherever and whenever thay want! They are so deceived that they have become totally blind!

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  31. "but first, let's review the existing reasons why the male child in Revelation 12:5 should be identified as the Church"

    "That is not to say the Church is not also Christ's Bride"

    OK. Now the church is bisexual. Does your church also walk in parades holding rainbow flags???

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