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Why Practicing Gay Christians Are Hurting Themselves And Others



I still remember the day I found myself in a circle of broken men admitting that I needed God's mercy.  It was pretty much the most awkward and uncomfortable place to be—or so I told myself—yet here was a group of men like me.  Not everyone was there for the same reasons, mind you, but most shared a similar look of shame and desperation.

In one corner sat Charlie—a weathered and worn looking fella whose pained-eyes revealed deep despair.  "My name is Charlie and I, uh, can't stop drinking.  I'm an alcoholic.  I wish I could say its been a year sober, but I was at the bar last night... well, came home drunk and my wife said she's through."  Tears welled up in his eyes as he looked down and quietly murmured to the group, "I hate what I've become."

In another corner was Tim whose gaunt appearance gave away most of what he was about to say.  "Well, can't believe I came in that door.  Mus' be God brought me here.  I'm at the shelter cuz' once you get out of jail ain't no one there for you and I'm already shootin' up again.  God's there though, which is why I came, to get right with him, you know?"

Eventually it was my turn to speak and if you know me you know that's not something I like to do—especially in a group setting.  My shifting eyes and shaking foot gave away my nervous energy.  "I'm not here for just one thing.  I was repeatedly abused by a family friend when I was a kid and also had a lot of trauma growing up.  I struggle with despair, lust, doubt, and bitterness."

One man after another shared how they were addicted to pornography or addicted to drugs or whose marriage fell apart because of adultery or how they felt far from God.  Soon just one person was left to speak.  Phil sat slumped down in his chair with his arms crossed.  He wasn't looking down like most, but was moving his eyes around the group and his face was noticeably red.  "Someone suggested I come here because of a mild drinking problem, but after I walked in the door I found out this church thinks I'm a sinner because I'm gay and in a relationship.  I don't want to be in this hateful place!"

The coordinator tried to engage with him, curious why he was still here if he had already decided it wasn't for him, but the answer became clear: Phil was here to argue.  He was here to make a point.  He was here to find validation for his belief that his alcoholism and all of the other things shared in the group were definitely wrong, but not his cherished homosexuality.  That Charlie over there is a broken, alcoholic mess, and Gary a cynical pervert, but Phil—just a mild over-drinker.  No deep dark secrets.  No desperate and acknowledged need for a Savior.  Certainly no shame.

He raised his voice as his face grew even more red.  Finally, he made his penultimate point: "You know what, I WAS BORN THIS WAY!  It's who I am.  How can that possibly be sinful?  What kind of a God would make me like this and then judge me for it!?  Bunch of hypocrites!"

To this day I still remember the awkward silence that fell over the group after Phil spoke.  It was like taking a bunch of people already at their lowest point and then beating them down even further.  In any case, Phil didn't stay long after that.  I'm sure he was able to then confidently report to whomever urged him to come that no one could help him and no one could understand.  And thus Phil continued to be Phil—the proud, flamboyant gay, who does no wrong, except, well, for that mild drinking problem.  Phil the homosexual.

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Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God?  Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.  And that is what some of you were.  But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
- 1 Corinthians 6:9–11

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The passage above is receiving an unprecedented level of textual criticism in light of the modern cultural shift.  Never before in Church history would theologians argue that this passage does not refer to homosexuality.  And how could they even if they tried?  It is absolutely as plain as day—no assumptions or inference necessary.  The Greek word used in 1 Corinthians 6 is arsenokoites and it is the word for homosexual.

1 Corinthians 6 doesn't exist in a vacuum either.  Numerous other passages unequivocally identify the sinful nature of homosexuality along with other gender-bending sexual practices like transgenderism and cross-dressing (Gen. 1:27–28; Lev. 18:22; 20:13; Deut. 22:5; 23:1; Matt. 19:4–6; Rom. 1:26–28; 1 Cor. 11:14–15; 1 Tim. 1:10).

This absurd theological development is actually splitting the Church.  Well, not the Church, but Christendom in general.  It is severing unity and causing a much, much bigger problem: outright apostasy by denying the truth of the Gospel.  But before we deal with the deeper issue, I want to first address a few things that need to be addressed because they are repeatedly coming up in inter- and intra-church debates about this topic.

The first point to be made is simply the unequivocal nature of Scripture's treatment of homosexuality.  It's a sin, period.  The fact that what GayChurch.org calls the "clobber passages" are even being debated in the Church is causing countless Christians to scratch their heads in confusion.  The context doesn't apply to us today?  These passages don't mean what they plainly say?  Really?

The absurdity of this debate shows us just how depraved our world has become in these last of the last days (just as was foretold in Romans 1:26–32, 2 Timothy 3:1–9, and 2 Timothy 4:3–5).

The second point is the claim of being born gay.  Christians who rightly believe homosexuality is a sin are often making a key mistake in their arguments by suggesting this is merely a choice and not an orientation or predisposition.  It's not.  It's sin nature and we are all born with a sin nature.  And when you are predisposed to something it can feel like everything in the world is urging you on—pushing you to do the very thing the Bible says not to do.

When you try every conceivable method to overcome the sin and still find yourself falling back into it you can quickly and easily become convinced that this isn't a sin, it's "just who I am."  And you'd be right about the "just who I am" part, but "just who you are" is a sinner from birth and homosexuals aren't excused from the universal deathtrap that all sons and daughter of Adam and Eve find themselves in.  We are all sinners.  We were all born in iniquity, predisposed to rebel against God and His rightful commands.  As infants we didn't have the guilt of sin, but we definitely contained in our tiny frames the sin nature and the continual acting out of our selfish desires.

The third point follows the second: by excusing one's own "pet sin" as an uncontrollable predisposition—even a God-given quality—you necessarily become 1. Defiant against God's holy nature, 2. Perverse/corrupted in interpreting God's Word, and 3. Self-righteous in judgment against others' sins.  That's a very bad situation to find yourself in.  When the drug-abuser and alcoholic who was predisposed towards substance abuse from birth has been battling his sin for 40 years and readily acknowledges the sinful nature of his actions, is it fair for a self-proclaimed homosexual Christian to acknowledge the sinful nature of that, but deny the reality of his own sin?

What about the heterosexual sinner?  Many homosexual Christians are ready and willing to condemn that adulterer and declare that pornography and adultery are (rightfully) sinful and for that matter all other manner of sexual immorality.  But not so much homosexuality.  "That's different."  "That's just who I am."  The Bible plainly and in no uncertain terms declares adultery, fornication, and other forms of sexual immorality to be sinful behaviors.  Homosexuality isn't unique and it doesn't earn you a get out of jail free card where you can condemn everyone else, but not yourself.

My fourth and final point about these debates deals with this question posed by many who see little wrong with homosexuality or other unnatural sexual behaviors:  Why do Christians focus on homosexuality above other sins?  Isn't that hypocritical?  The answer is straightforward and simple: Because the sinful nature of other evil behaviors is not being questioned.  For the most part, Christians are not arguing that adultery, lying, or stealing are ok with God.  As long as some Christians continue to claim that a (repeatedly) biblically-defined sin is not a sin, there will continue to be a debate and mark my words: the acceptance being sought will never be found.

Churches are filled with all manner of sins and hypocrisy—adultery, lying, theft, and all the rest, but, for the most part, there is not a movement within Christianity pushing for these things to be removed from the vice list.  However, homosexuality and transgenderism are being justified and afforded special protection.  This isn't an issue of judgmentalism, but of righteousness, truth, and love.  What our culture calls love is absolutely not love.

Love is not an emotion or a desire.  Neither is love toleration or merely being kind.  Love is gut-wrenching, painful, faithful commitment in the face of all manner of adversity—even when it means doing what feels unnatural and uncomfortable.  Love is surrendering one's own wants and desires to care for another.

Did Christ want to suffer a bloody execution on the Cross?  No.  And in fact, He asked His Father to deliver Him out of the situation, but what He chose was love (Lk. 22:42).  Because of His love for His Father and for His flock He chose death over His own will.  How many practicing, self-avowed, homosexual Christians are doing likewise?

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Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
- 1 Corinthians 13:6

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This brings me to the most important concern:  The modern, anti-biblical movement that is teaching that God wants us to welcome/celebrate/embrace homosexuality is not only blasphemous and self-righteous, it is also apostate.  The truth of the Gospel is at stake and that's why practicing/self-avowed/proud gay Christians are causing spiritual damage beyond comprehension.

My readers know full well that I am a stalwart defender of the Gospel and salvation by grace through faith alone.  I've written extensively on how our works play no role in our salvation itself.  We are saved through faith in Christ and His atoning blood—nothing more, nothing less.  Anything less than faith alone is faith in something other than Christ.  GayChurch.org seems to teach similarly, but it's just a deceptive bromide.  Salvation doesn't come from faith in any Christ, but faith in the Christ—the Messiah who had to die on the Cross in order for those who've committed homosexual acts to make it to Heaven (or adulterers, liars, and haters, for that matter).  Homosexuality is sinful and it cost Christ His life when He chose to love homosexuals by dying for them.

The cost of homosexuality

What comes to your mind when you read the Scripture's admonishment that homosexuals, thieves, greedy, drunkards, slanderers, and swindlers will not inherit the Kingdom of God?  There's three reactions that can result:

1. "That's true, but that's not me.  I'm going to Heaven because I'm not one of those."  These are the self-righteous legalists.  They reject the Gospel because they reject their need for atonement.  They still don't understand the purpose of Christ's sacrifice.

2. "This doesn't mean what it plainly says (or was meant for a different time, context, etc)."  These are those who promote themselves as the loving, tolerant, welcoming disciples of Jesus, but they're in the same boat as the legalists.  They are also rejecting the atonement because they reject their personal need for it.  That's the key.  And that's the cliff GayChurch.org finds itself standing on even though they claim forgiveness and justification through faith alone.  They don't realize that they need atonement because of their pet sin and therefore they don't understand or believe the Gospel.  The message of the Gospel contains three essential parts—remove any one of the three and it is no longer the Gospel: 1. Christ died, 2. for our sins, 3. and rose again (see 1 Cor. 15:3–4).  Unbelievers outside of Christianity reject the third part, but unbelievers inside of Christianity reject/twist/malign the second.  Both are in an equally dire situation having a desperate need for Christ's atoning blood, but not realizing that it applies to them in their personal situation.  You can't honestly claim to be forgiven by Christ's blood through faith alone if you simultaneously deny your personal need for forgiveness.

3. The third reaction is different and it comes from humility rather than pride.  It's simple trust in God's words and involves the sobering acknowledgement that "this is talking about me.  I have sinned against God and there is nothing I can do to save myself."

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Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God.
- Romans 3:19

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If, by God's grace, you find yourself reacting like #3, then take heart dear friend because your reaction is exactly as God intended it.  You are fulfilling the very purpose of the law, which was given to show us that we are broken, sinful, and in desperate need of what only God can provide.

Only one thing now remains for you:

He then brought them out and asked, 'Sirs, what must I do to be saved?'

They replied, 'Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.'
- Acts 16:30–31


It's fitting that the homosexuality-is-ok-with-God movement has attached itself to the sin of pride because that's exactly what it is: pride in sinning, pride in twisting Scripture, pride in being self-righteous.



Here's the ironic thing about that night at a Christian recovery program: there was another guy in the group who also was predisposed towards homosexual sin.  Yet he was there for that very reason.  He was contrite and broken in spirit and desperate to be right with the God he loves.  Ian, like the Prodigal Son, came with a remorseful heart and a new-found disposition towards obedience.  "Father, I have sinned against Heaven and against you and am unworthy to be called your son."  God embraces and forgives sinners such as these and washes all of their sins away.  Through faith alone.


So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.
- Genesis 1:27


But for Adam no suitable helper was found.  So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs and then closed up the place with flesh.  Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.

The man said, 'This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called ‘woman,’ for she was taken out of man.'  That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.  Adam and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.
- Genesis 2:20–25


Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.
- Leviticus 18:22


If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable.
- Leviticus 20:13


A woman must not wear men’s clothing [literally - armor], nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this.
- Deuteronomy 22:5


No one who has been emasculated by crushing or cutting may enter the assembly of the Lord.
- Deuteronomy 23:1


'Haven’t you read,' he replied, 'that at the beginning the Creator made them male and female,' and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’?  'So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.'
- Matthew 19:4–6


Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts.  Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.  In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another.  Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.
- Romans 1:26–28


Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory?  For long hair is given to her as a covering.
- 1 Corinthians 11:14–15


We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.
- 1 Timothy 1:9–11


If you are just now escaping from the sinful snares of the world, the legalists will attack you and claim that you must be perfect.  In so doing, they will cause you to abandon your faith in Christ's blood if you believe them.  Don't listen to them.  Listen to Christ.  I know numerous ex-homosexuals who are now faithfully following the LORD and when I say "ex-" I don't mean that they are free from temptation and never sin.  I mean that they have acknowledged their sin and the sinful nature of homosexuality and now trust in Christ.  And as an incidental product of that trust, some of them are now even married with children and rescuing others from what they themselves had once been trapped in.

I don't personally know him, but a particularly famous example is none other than Dennis Jernigan whose powerful testimony of fleeing homosexuality has brought thousands out of that lifestyle and led tens of thousands to faith in Christ.  Though temptation is still very real, he no longer identifies as gay.  When he came to the end of himself he found God—the only one who could ultimately satisfy him.


His music is sentimental to me, because it was some of his songs that God used to work redemption in my own family and for that I will be forever grateful.


Lastly, it is important to remember that all Christians stumble from time to time and the one who says otherwise is a liar (1 Kgs. 8:46; Eccl. 7:20; Rm. 3:9; 3:23; Jas. 3:2; 1 Jn. 1:8–2:2), but true Christians must not identify themselves by their sin for Scripture says, "And that is what some of you were.  But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."  In the eyes of God, there is no such thing as a homosexual Christian or an adulterous Christian or a lying Christian.  True Christians have acknowledged their sin, believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, and received the Holy Spirit.  They are born again and destined for resurrection into perfect, immortal, sinless bodies.  They stumble and struggle, but they never give up, having made a lifelong, unchangeable commitment to the truth of the Gospel.


[Out of respect, names have been changed above to protect identities.]
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  1. You should probably check out this video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH6HIutoZG0&t=3s

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    1. Nearly an hour into and need to share! Brother Jaco and I are on the same page.

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  3. Excellent, Gary! Thank you.

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    1. It was a sobering topic to cover, but so very important. More and more churches are buying the deception and this has been so heavy on my heart.

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  4. I can only imagine how much courage it took to push "publish." Your own humility is a blessing to witness and a much-needed example. This is not an easy message, but an important one, and may God use your words to heal, restore, and wake up those who need to hear them in these last days.

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    1. Thank you, Hillary! I've really appreciated your recent posts, btw. You are loudly proclaiming the truth of the Gospel! Keep going because we may just have days/weeks left.

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  5. Slow clap 👏. Well written, well said. Thank you. Presented in a clear, true to God's word way that I haven't heard. Three things that struck a cord, 1. No one is debating wether or not the other sins are sins. 2. As chrsitians we don't identify by our sin, our identity is in Christ. 3. It cost Christ His life when He chose to die for homosexuals (as all of us sinners).

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  6. Splitting Christendom is a very accurate assessment. The small town church I’ve raised my kids in has fully embraced the tolerance of sin. Masking it as love. I privately raised my concern on it and was told I needed to read my bible and look within myself. I’m heart broken to take my family out of there, but I feel that being a part of a body that condones certain sins means that I’m ok with it, and will lead others down the wrong path. I certainly wouldn’t want to be a part of a body that condones or even promotes my individual sin nature as I feel that would separate me from God. But I’m made to feel like the one that is unloving and unwanted there.

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    1. Painful, but good of you to leave. I'm seeing much of the same. My alma mater, in a very conservative part of the country, has just embraced homosexuality. I think we are witnessing an end times apostasy in conjunction with the fulfillment of Romans 1:26–28.

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    2. @Gail B, It's hard I know. I have seen whole churches split on these lines only to be raised up again by those who stand by the Gospel. It is not a matter of judgement, rather one of discernment. We are called to love. We are not called to sin. I pray that the LORD lead your family so as to strengthen the church; even if it is by another congregation yet to be found.

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  7. So powerful - thank you for sharing Gary. Amen and amen.

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  8. Very powerful. Thank you, Gary.. for your boldness, obedience, and truth in this message. May we never forget that the truth will set us all free and has. I am eternally thankful for that. Love from your sister in Christ. 🕊

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  9. Wow Gary, that's the best explanation of this topic that I have ever seen. Thank you very much for the effort it took to share this.

    Michael

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  10. I have only just begun to read your offering but am struck by a couple of things off the bat,

    "The context doesn't apply to us today? These passages don't mean what they plainly say? Really?"

    Me thinks I have seen this logic before. Oh, yeah. It was used by the serpent on Eve! (Genesis 3:1 ESV)

    "You know what, I WAS BORN THIS WAY! It's who I am. How can that possibly be sinful? What kind of a God would make me like this and then judge me for it!? Bunch of hypocrites!"

    Yes, you were "BORN THIS WAY!" A sinner born of a sin nature and in sin. We're all in that same boat. We were all born this way, sinners! So how does that make you, me or anyone else born of a human father in the flesh any different from you Phil?

    And who am I to judge?!

    My step brother was homosexual. He generally shunned the church and could be quite combative but thanked me for the way I loved on our father in his final hours praying and reading scripture to him. We passed the time together in that room and by that bed with a dying man that wanted nothing more than to be loved the son of his blood. In those hours there was no division, there was presence. Quiet presence.

    I poured out the Gospels in those hours and let things fall where they may. My brother thanked me for that time. It was a ray of hope for me that he may see the world in a new light.

    My half brother died a couple years later of Pancreatic Cancer. His partner is HIV positive.

    Several years ago I was given a copy of Tom Davis' book, "Red Letters". In it he hits the nail on the head in the Introduction by saying,

    "The only gospel worth living is the one that incarnates love. The only gospel worth giving our lives for is the one that elevates the needs of others above our own. That's what the 'good news' is all about."

    The only commandment we are bound by is that of LOVE. Without it we can do nothing. Without it we are nothing. Who is Love? (G-d) From where do we receive love? From none other than He who is Love. (G-d) For us, everything is bound up in these three things,

    1. The Great Commandment
    2. The Golden Rule
    3. The Great Commission

    ...all of which are impossible to keep if we don't love. Singling out one sin over another is a fruitless endeavour and a ditch that the church has fallen into time and time again. Better is it not, to tend the forest of logs in our eye rather than the speck found in our neighbour's eye? I believe, "Yes!"

    But most importantly we must challenge and encourage each other to lift up the gospel and profess the truth that is Christ crucified. His name is LOVE and it has been given for all mankind. Let His Holy Spirit convict the person one heart at at time, not fellow sinners who wield a sword that is not theirs to swing. Let Love (G-d) abound in all things that all things may be reconciled to Him. Let us, the church, hold to these truths that of ourselves, we are no better than those who the serpent beacons us to point a condemning finger at. In doing so we do not hate for Love's sake. We hate for sin sake.

    13 So now faith, hope, and love abide,
    these three; but the greatest of these
    is love.

    (1 Corinthians 13:13 ESV)

    Indeed, faith and hope abide and abide in love. They abide in G-d through His Son Christ Jesus.

    Great article thus far and important. Will continue my reading and another cup of coffee!

    Cheers,


    Pastor Rich

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    1. @Gary, I just finished another K-cup and reading the work of your heart.

      BRILLIANT!!!

      "3. The third reaction is different and it comes from humility rather than pride. It's simple trust in God's words and involves the sobering acknowledgement that 'this is talking about me. I have sinned against God and there is nothing I can do to save myself.'"

      Humility. Humility and a contrite heart are key. They are that which bring us to the foot of the cross. (Isaiah 57:15 ESV) (Psalm 34:18-20 ESV)

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    2. Right on, Pastor Rich! Love, love, love (a biblical, holy love, that is)!

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    3. Romans 3:23, John 14:6. One sin keeps us away from the father and there is only one way back. We must pick up our cross daily. Fight the good fight. Who is the chief of sinners, well that would be me. Thanks pastor your words ring with truth.

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    4. Pastor Rich...I have no clue what you are saying in almost every sentence with your Mister Rogers talk of love that is all that matters basically and that we don't call out others in sin since all sins are the same. There is degrees of sin and that is why the bible states some people will not inherit the Kingdom of God for those particular sins and it repeats those particular sins all throughout the bible. Then you say "his name is Love". What?? His name is Jesus Christ! Again, it is pastors like you who promote a watered down false gospel and need to be called out as false teachers like you are. Shame on you. Everything you post is opinion based and unbiblical.

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    5. Pastor Rich...quit giving your opinions and advice which are horrifically unbiblical to others. You are leading people to hell...since you only preach on part of the Gospel and not the entire thing which Jesus said many false teachers like yourself will do. Any fool knows that a pastor like yourself that says this is takes more value on some silly man who wrote a book rather than Jesus Christ and the Gospels....shame on you...and shut your mouth with your horrible unbiblical advice...you said this..."Several years ago I was given a copy of Tom Davis' book, "Red Letters". In it he hits the nail on the head in the Introduction by saying,

      "The only gospel worth living is the one that incarnates love. The only gospel worth giving our lives for is the one that elevates the needs of others above our own. That's what the 'good news' is all about."

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    6. @Unknown, Yes, I do boil things down to a simple component but for a reason. G-d is Love. Check your Bible and it says so very clearly. Jesus is G-d. Again, the Bible clearly teaches this and in red letters! All the Law and the Prophets require love. Faith, hope and love. What are greatest? Love. Again, because G-d is love. Godly rebuke and correction require what? Love. If we live any gospel that does not incarnate love, then we are living a gospel without G-d because G-d is Love. Again, look at that which Jesus teaches us what is all the Law and the Prophets. Each is based upon love. Elevating others above ourselves is part of that, as given to us by Jesus in the Greatest Commandment. When we are taught to abide, in what are we abiding? Ultimately in love! Go back to the basics to see what was dearest on His heart and love continues to be core.

      So is it love or judgement that the whole of scripture boils down to? We deserve judgement but Jesus came out of love. Go back to (Isaiah 57:15) and continue reading as to why the LORD came here in the first place.

      Human judgement is sin. Brotherly rebuke is love. There is a difference and it is the condition of your heart.

      4 Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast;
      it is not arrogant

      5 or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irratable
      or resentful;

      6 it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth.

      7 Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things,
      endures all things.

      8 Love never ends.


      Take just this portion of (1 Corinthians 13:4-8 ESV) and replace the word "love" with "God". What do you get? A picture of G-d's perfect love.

      10 "but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away."

      (1 Corinthians 13:10 ESV)


      Make no mistake. Homosexuality is a sin. I can say that and I base it upon the truth of the gospel which I do. But do not judge for the same measure will be measured to you. We are all sinners. So what do we do? Abide in Christ (love) and pray for one another.

      If we root our identity in Christ then we root ourselves in love because G-d is love and Christ is G-d. We as Christians are called to love and serve Him and Him alone. In doing so we are called to LOVE one another in the way that we LOVE ourselves. The greatest lie that the enemy puts upon us is hatred of self. (Toss that in the mix and see where it leads you?!)

      My desire and teaching is to abide in the Father through Christ Jesus our Lord. That's not opinion, it's just plain truth and cannot be accomplished outside of genuine and penetrating love of G-d. And *how* do we get that love? We get it from HIM because HE LOVED US FIRST!!!!

      Yours in Christ, always,


      Pastor Rich

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  11. Thank you Gary for taking a strong stand for God and His word regarding this difficult subject. Homosexuality is one of Satan's strongest weapons in attacking and destroying the family in these last days.
    God is still in the business of transforming the lives of sinners and that includes homosexuals. They need to know and understand that their life style is a sin in the eyes of God and that He tells them that specifically in His word.

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  12. Gary, thnk you for a well-crafted and thorough and gentle unpacking of the simple truth around this topic in Scripture and in the larger context of The Book.

    Ephesians 5:32 explains why THIS topic is so CENTRAL these days. The marriage covenant, & male/female relationship it covers, are a PROFOUND mystery which embodies and reveals the relationship between Our Lord and His Church. As that relationship is the purpose of EVERYTHING in creation, it is simply a logical place for a cultural Battle of Armageddon upon this Holiest of ground during these closing hours. That said battleground would occur squarely on the church lot affirms this.

    As we watched the Rev12 event sifting 'Christendom', and calling out the scoffers from the Bereans, this topic occupies a different area of the same sifting pan. Can you not see it doing the very same thing, in a different way? Sifting is sifting, and the Wise and the Foolish, as well as the Family and the Foe are being set to the left and the right, as The King prepares His Arrival amidst them all. Soon and very soon family, Maranatha!

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  13. Oh, Gary, this is so clearly, eloquently and truthfully written I hesitate to comment, for fear of "breaking the breathless feel of truth". I have never before seen this topic addressed so clearly, lovingly yet with no quarter given to the acceptance of what God has deemed sin. I see so clearly now by your point, we have not made Homosexuality or Transgender a greater sin by calling it out, it is simply no other sin and sinner is "proudly" waiving a banner and declaring it not to be sin. Many of us have been fighting the Straw Man argument, we fell into the trap. We heard and fought, "It's not a sin, I was born this way." You have pointed us to the truth. We were all born "that way" meaning into sin and your sin is not the one exception to the rule. Sin is just sin and a Bible Believing Christian is not allowed to dress it up in a party dress and claim it is exempt.

    I've been arguing for quite some time the claim that abortion is a woman's right to choose is also a straw man argument. I have never questioned a woman's right to choose what to do with her own body. The question is when this choice must be made. It must be made prior to the time when the exercise of the choice does not infringe on another human being's right to live. You must choose before there is a child, not after. Just as with homosexuality as you've so beautifully pointed out, we are not allowed to re-frame the argument to a seemingly reasonable point, when all that has been done was move the point further from the root of the issue. Abortion is murder. Homosexuality is a sin. They are not about "Choice" or about being "Born That Way". Make your Choice before there is a Baby. Call Homosexuality Sin and deal with it as Sin - it's not special, not privileged, it's just sin. We all have sin, you don't get a free pass any more than I do.

    Isn't it always the same? Don't look here, look over there. I can't win that argument, but I can win or at least make you ashamed to argue over the straw man. I'll call you names and make you believe you are the one who is sinning by denying me what I want to do. What I want to do is have your blessing and the church's blessing to continue in my sin - of homosexuality or murder. If you don't give it to me, I will claim special privilege as a downtrodden and abused portion of society, vilified by those who do not know how to "love". Now, I not only am allowed to continue in my sin, but I can feel sanctimonious about it because I have "overcome" the meanness and the pettiness of those who want to deny me my sin because of their narrow minds.

    Love is to care enough to speak truth and point to Christ. Love is not to see a person standing in the middle of train tracks with a train approaching and say, "It's your right to stand on those tracks." Love is to say, "Get off, because you are about to die a very painful death." Love is not to make you comfortable in sin, but to speak the truth in love. There is a very huge difference. My parents loved me enough to say no. All the excuses I trotted out about the other kids being able to do this, that or the other stupid thing made no difference. Because, it wssn't about the other kids or their being loved more than me, it was about loving me enough to tell me the truth and stand in it on my behalf until I could stand in truth for myself. I am ever grateful to them.

    Now if that isn't Satan twisting the entire world up into a ball of deception few will ever unravel? I want you to be loving enough to let me go to hell without hearing the truth. Throw on the pride of the sinners and the shame bestowed on Believers and that's just a home run out of the park for the evil team.

    Thank you, Gary, for Clarity and for Courage! Blessings - Sherry

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    1. While I have taken a little heat for "pro-life" I say this in response every time and usually get crickets
      "The question is when this choice must be made. It must be made prior to the time when the exercise of the choice does not infringe on another human being's right to live. You must choose before there is a child, not after."

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  14. Thanks for the well written information Gary. I come across this topic all too often here in the NJ/NY area where homosexuality is rampant! It is a challenge to explain to folks that we are all sinners and I sin every day. The difference is I dont want to sin, and when I do I am 'regretful' towards the Lord!

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  15. Great article Gary. Thank you. This topic of homosexuality is such a difficult one for both the unchurched culture and church culture. What people forget though is that when God made man and woman it was part of a much bigger plan. Any time we do anything different from the order He created, it disrupts it. Even the "smallest" disruption to this order can have profoundly damaging effects on the perfect plan God intended. His order is for our own good. Lastly, when culture fails to let the Bible draw moral and ethical lines, then what exactly draws the moral and ethical lines? Nothing. Nothing at all...and that is what we are seeing.

    Can we get some clarification on Deuteronomy 23:1? If it means what I think it means, it is not reversible, except via miracle. But I am not even sure I understand the full context of that verse.

    Also, the verse about long hair from 1 Corinthians 11 is peculiar, since Jesus as a Nazarene probably had long hair. Right?

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    1. I think Deut. 23:1, like other law verses is given to show us that God has a holy standard that we can't meet, yet our inability to meet that standard doesn't change the fact that the standard still exists.

      This applies to transgender persons. God's intention from the beginning was binary, complimentary genders (male and female). When something causes someone to be something other than what they were created to be (whether intentionally or unintentionally), that goes against God's will. The same applies here. A man removing his masculinity goes against God's holy will.

      The law shows that all of us our guilty on multiple fronts and have sin, some of which is even beyond our control. All we can do is acknowledge "yes, LORD, your way and Word is right and I trust you." In the case of a transgender person who has voluntarily undergone an **irreversible** sex change, but now recognizes the sinfulness of that decision, there is nothing left they need to do except to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and to trust Him for redemption. What's not ok is for a transgender person to promote transgenderism and to pridefully hold that their transgender identity is right with God. It's not.

      Long hair - Paul doesn't call it a sin, but this falls into the wisdom principles in the epistles (better not to marry, women to dress modestly/wear coverings, etc). Good things to do because they can help steer clear of actual sin. The principle here is that nature itself shows that women grow long hair and are made beautiful by it and men (not always) can look effeminate by it. Wisdom principles aren't sin issues.

      Hope that makes sense!

      Blessings.

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    4. No Jesus probably did NOT have long hair. Jesus was called a Nazarene, not a Nazarite. The two are different. A Nazarene is one who comes from the town of Nazareth. A Nazarite is one who has taken the Nazarite vow. Jesus was not a Nazarite. The Nazarite restrictions are seen in Numbers 6:1-8. Jesus ate and drank with the Jews and touched dead bodies.

      God created a line of authority. Children are to obey their parents, the wife is to cooperate with her husband, the husband is to be head of the family, love his wife as Christ loves the Church & be obedient to Christ, Christ is obedient to the Father. God has established these authorities as the “delegated” extensions of His authority. If we resist cooperation, we are in effect, resisting God’s own authority and Lordship. This is why Paul told wives to submit to their husbands “as to the Lord” (Eph. 5:22).

      1 Corinthians 11:15 This covering is a sign of submission and is fitting & respectable on a woman. Short hair no longer acts as a covering & is shameful on a woman.

      For men to have long hair--hair that provides a covering like a woman's hair--is a shameful thing. It is to wear a sign of submission in a way that destroys the picture of God's line of authority. Long hair on a man signifies that this man doesn't want to fulfill his God-given role as head of the home and leader. He is rebelling against God's order.

      Short hair on a woman signifies that she doesn't want to submit as a helper in the home in submission to her husband (or father if she is young). She is rebelling against authority and God's order.

      There was no sin in Jesus Christ. As a sign of his adherence to God's plan, we know the length of hair on Jesus Christ. This length, according to scripture, was short but not shaven.

      David Reagan http://www.learnthebible.org/did-jesus-have-long-hair.html

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  16. Gary, I appreciate your tackling this specific sin and the issues that surround it. As I have read many times - no other sin seeks normalcy and acceptance (Do liars,
    adulterers, thieves, gossips, fearful, etc. seek their rights?) in our world. The LBGTQ+ demands that everyone else agree with them. Christians want to blindingly go along in the name of love to agree that sexual sin is ok and therefore good - but God called it sin. The church as a whole has ended up denying the power of Christ - to be overcomers by accepting this sin and other sexual sin. We are all sinners and as you said we have a sin nature. But, we are in Christ as a believer and we rely on the Holy Spirit through his word to transform us. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 are believers (except for the unrighteous) that the Apostle Paul is talking to who have committed these sins and/or are now struggling in them - yet, they are sanctified and justified in Christ (therefore, we should walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, Colossians 1:9-10). We all sin and will continue to sin because we are of the flesh. In verse 18 he tells us to flee sexual immorality. He says we are not our own, we were bought with a price - 1 Corinthians 6:20 - so, glorify God in your body and in your spirit. We are righteous in the sight of God and made holy through sanctification.
    As I read, even if you lust after another, Matthew 5:28, you have committed adultery in your heart.

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  17. Well done, my brother!

    I have encountered the same question, "Why do Christians focus on homosexuality above other sins? Isn't that hypocritical? The answer is straightforward and simple: Because the sinful nature of other evil behaviors is not being questioned."

    Yes, thank you. The answer is straightforward and simple.

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  18. Praise to the Lord! I'm thankful for the Biblically balanced view you portray Gary! It became so rare! This is exactly the manner and Christ-like attitude& perspective issues like that needs to be approached!(I see mostly legalism everywhere but I don't deny that this other problem -denying that sin is sin-pointed out in the article also exist!)

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  19. Outstanding, Gary.

    You know, every time I hear someone spew the line about how they were "born this way," I like to ask them this:

    "Hey, I was born with the desire to have sex with women I'm not married to. Lots of 'em actually, especially buxom brunettes. Does that make it OK? I mean, trust me...I was BORN that way."

    We are all "born this way," and that way is sinful. We just don't all commit the exact same sins.

    Another take on this issue I wrote right after SCOTUS legalized gay marriage in 2015:

    http://www.alittlestrength.com/articles/2015/1507-love-wins.htm

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    1. LOL, true and glory to God, that we know what destruction that will bring to our lives and how thoroughly His grace is sufficient and how willing His Spirit to help us overcome. Amen.

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  20. Gary - deeply grateful you and your bitterness to write so very well, but mostly for the heart behind it that defends truth, with honesty, clarity, simplicity, love, kindness and urgency. Deeply proud of you- dad #lovemesomejernigan

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  21. Gary,
    Another well written and timely article. I have had many conversations with gays who claim the name of Christ yet don’t feel the need to REPENT from their sin just like we are all called to do. And of course, the pat Answer is, “I was born that way, so if God made me this way, it can’t be bad.” Or, “Do you feel the need to repent from eating pig or shellfish?” Stuff like that.

    Well, I just point out that 1 Cor 6 passage to them and leave them with this one simple thought...it’s your soul...are you willing to take the chance that your sin, which you don’t think is sin, is really covered by the blood of Jesus? It’s not up to me.......

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  22. Excellent article Gary, and it is good to see others contending for the faith so openly.

    I just want to point out the fact that 99.9% of homosexuals/transgenders have come to a position of homosexuality due to nefarious activities as a youngster. I know we are 'born with sin', but in the circumstances of homosexuality, we cannot simply use this arguement when discussing with homosexuals the root causes for their homosexuality.

    In the majority of circumstances, homosexuals have grown up in an abusive family situation, largely as a result of a sexually/physically abusive father (and by abusive, I dont mean necessary smacked bums etc); an absent father (leading to feelings of abandonment), or a father who has given himself to working day and night providing for the family, without being 'present' to help meet the emotional/spiritual needs of the child. The final reason why people enter into homosexuality is normally sexual imprinting at a very young age at the hands of a non-family member. An example (of my friend) was a young boy telling my male friend that he should go behind the school bush and let him do to my friend what his father did to him.

    I have talked to dozens of homosexuals, and every one I meet and come to know, I always ask the question "tell me about your dad"...suffice to say, I have never come across a single person who hasnt had an abusive or absent father. An absence of fatherly love almost always drives a person to homosexual feelings/considerations and ultimately, evil.

    So please remember that homosexuality is never as easy as 'we were born into sin'. Homosexuality always has a far more evil and complicated cause to its wickedness.

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    1. @zeal I’d say many if not all of our practicing sins or sins that we all fall into stem from similar type issues, as well as personal weaknesses, not only homosexuality

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    2. There is one additional issue which is adding tremendously to men believing they were born gay and I was astounded when I understood the roots of it. I believe it is another absolutely evil trick of Satan which has added to this gender bending insanity. The article I read discussed the change from first breast feeding, then from cows milk or regular formula replacements to the use of Soy. This was not about gay men, it was an article discussing the health issues created by Soy. Soy is the primary source for formula for infants and is now a milk replacement suggested because it is "healthier" in dairy products, coffee drinks, etc for adults. Soy is astronomically high in estrogen. Those males who were tested after having been on this formula from childhood and continuing to consume it as adults were found to have impossibly low levels of testosterone and exceedingly high levels of estrogen. That's why you often hear the pejoratives - Soy Boy or Beta Male. God put the levels of Testosterone into males He wanted to be there. He put the proper amount of Estrogen in females He wanted to be there. Our Social Engineering world has now changed that. It is part of the war of Satan against the difference in Genders created by God and also to reduce the male to a shameful or subservient position. The only way Satan is able to do that is to change the nature of men. Men are created as warriors, protectors, leaders of the home. But, they need the tools of God to be able to do that. Its another program of Satan to destroy mankind. Just to be absolutely clear - this in no way is offered as an excuse for sin. It may be a reason which makes it more easy to understand and even one which could be used to justify. The problem caused by these issues can be corrected. So there is no way this should be used as an excuse to justify Homosexuality or Sin. Blessings - Sherry

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    3. Gail - you are correct in that many of our issues stem from similar issues (such as married woman struggling with a 'hatred of men' due to an abusive father). My key point is that in identifying the root cause of the issue, homosexuals have an opportunity to forgive the wickedness that was done against them, allowing them to recognise that they were not 'born with it', and provides an opening for the spirit of God to bring healing. We need to know and acknowledge this stuff, as the amount of homosexuality will continue to rise dramatically if we take our eyes off challenging and encouraging our fathers to be godly men (not to mention the spiritual warfare that goes with it).

      Sherry - your comment made me laugh, as I have been having this argument with a vegan last week (not on homosexuality, but on the issues with him trying to get me to enjoy tofu etc). In NZ, we dont have many popular soy-based breast milk replacers (1 in fact I believe), yet have a rampant homosexuality problem. A well known ex-gay Christian who has spoken on the consequences of abuse in the family in producing the fatherly love deficits in a child - leading to homosexuality, is SyRogers.com. Well worth a read and listen.

      Ryan

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    4. Ryan I know you are absolutely correct. I believe Satan is throwing everything + the kitchen sink at humanity to deceive and destroy. Make now mistake, men are absolutely under attack from every angle now. I believe the old dragon started with women first and we saw the Feminist and he began his attack on the family and humanity and is furthering it with this attack on men - directly & indirectly. He is not long for this earth. He'll have a brief period where he will attempt to reign, but then he will be bound for 1,000 years and finally destroyed in the Lake of Fire. None could ever be more deserving. Blessings - Sherry

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    5. we are all hanging out for that day!!!!

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  23. http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/03/23/paul-apostle-christ-critics-hate-people-love/

    Seeing this article made me think of the verse..

    And the Gospel of the Kingdom will be preached in all the world... and then the end shall come...

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    1. I really, really want to see it.

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  24. Gary this was an incredible, insightful and thoughtful article that is extremely well written. Great work. Keep it up. Excellent discussion too. Mark Twain’s quote regarding parts of the Bible that are very clear and simply stated are especially apropos for the subject of this article:
    “It ain’t the parts of the Bible that I can’t understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand.”

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  25. Gary, I have simple question - might perhaps sound silly to you but... :) I apologize in advance putting it out:

    What is a "PRACTISING GAY CHRISTIAN"?

    PRACTISING GAY or PRACTISING CHRISTIAN? I really already didn't get the title of your article. Somehow confused me seriously. Blessings to you!

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    1. The word practicing here refers to gay, not Christian. The idea is that it is possible that a Christian would have homosexual tendencies (thoughts, proclivities, desires) but should have a proper Biblical understanding of God's order and would therefore see his tendencies as sin nature and would generally resist the temptations. So, the title of the article is suggesting that if someone calls himself a Christian and treats homosexuality as a non-sin, then he is hurting the message of Christianity. Does that make sense?

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  26. There are so many things to answer here that it's just not possible, though as regards the subject of the absent or abusive father as a supposed cause of homosexuality, I can only say a distinction must be made between cause and pretext bringing something out. Too many gays have not suffered neglect and abuse for simple causation to be put forward as explanation.

    If you are a believer in total biblical inerrancy, which means you should believe everything St Paul ever wrote up to and including that women gain salvation through childbirth, should be silent, covered, and are wanton against Christ if they wish to marry (don't kid us you really believe Paul for such things!), then you can and will go on assuming the last word on "homosexuality" (itself a major and important function of culture and innovation - the Renaissance almost depended on it) rests with the apostle. Otherwise there are many other things even biblically to consider. There's much I could recommend for study and reflection, but taking responsibility for my views, for what it's worth I could mention a you tube of mine on the theme of "Jesus and Sexuality" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG0odoWqINQ
    You will find there some things you will not have heard or read elsewhere in even revisionist theologies; and whether you would agree with me or not, I am qualified to speak across a wide range to the extent I am author of a (published) world first doctorate from any religious studies dept on gay spiritualities.

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    1. oh goodness - your not the 'Rollan McCleary' who likes to think he can read astrological charts, believes that Jesus and some of his disciples were gay, and you indulge in homosexuality (as a supposed 'practicing christian') are you??

      If so - then you are just as 'qualified to speak across a wide range' on homosexuality as this coffee I am busy enjoying while writing this.

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    2. Yes, Ryan... unfortunately that’s the one. I wondered what he was rambling on about in his comment, and typed in the link he gave. I was flabbergasted at what I was hearing him say about our precious Jesus and soon stopped the video, as I felt it extremely evil.

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    3. Amazing isn't it - we need to pray for a deep repentance for this man and pray for his salvation, before it is too late for him!

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  27. Through and through ......Yes, that is and isn't the one at all. If you listened to the indicated you tube you would be aware there has inevitably been plenty of disinformation about me and what I have actually stated, this situation including in part due to the rank lies and bitterness of so called good Christians - a big subject, a long story which I can't deal with here. However, yes, it is true that I make claims to know Jesus' still working birth data in development of the respected D'Occhieppo/Hughes thesis re the birth, itself approved by Pope Benedict. All Christians should know what I know; it is breathtaking and unparalleled (an editor at Random declared it groundbreaking, fascinating and publishable), would help avoid many errors including what are and are not signs of the end of the age. If people could face dealing with the astrology demonized by Christians and scientists alike, the case for the data is as good as irrefutable like even the names of Jesus' ancestors(via(the name place and concept asteroids) in his house of origins, his name and titles in superconjunction). You can't invent this kind of thing,the scale of evidence is overwhelming. So much could be cleared up and known if this evidence were dealt with and accepted but one is up against everything from the blind and bitter evangelical machine to secular indifference to proving everything from Jesus to astrology. The end of the indicated you tube did mention the seal of God is nonetheless upon what I have done. I suggest you might go Amazon and "Testament of the Magi" and use the "Look In" function and get the idea of what I am dealing with.
    Robyn....."extremely evil". Who are you and where are you living. I have never said anything like Jesus had sex with his disciples, I don't believe he had, but unless you are truly ignorant you must be aware of an entire tradition in history, art and theology re Jesus and John, also that some of the greatest people in history like Leonardo, Michelangelo, Turing, and so many more were gay. I don't like to say it, but It is redneck ignorance or blindness if not itself a kind incipient evil to dismiss all history and culture in this way and insultingly suggest I am dealing in evil.

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    1. You want to argue that homosexual behavior is not a sin, yet you offer mountains of unclear information. I see nothing but insinuation, astrology, and longwindedness. Gotquestions and answersingenesis explain the eunuch passage correctly. If Jesus wanted to condone homosexuality He would have been quite clear.

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    2. “All Christians should know what I know...”

      This is Gnosticism.

      Praying for you, RM.

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    3. Rollan McCleary: Who I am and where I am living is most certainly not your concern. As for your basing your belief system on traditions in art, history and culture, that explains it all. They are purely of man, and sinful man at that. The fact that Leonardo, et al were gay matters not one hoot in a whirlwind; being a great artist does not make their sin any less a sin. If it is “redneck ignorance to ignore all history and culture in this way,” then let me rush to Home Depot to buy some paint, cuz I’m painting my neck BRIGHT RED. And, yes, I believe you are dealing in evil— pure and simple.

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  28. Robyn - I didn't seriously ask who you were and where you lived, I am not really interested, the question was rhetorical/ironic. But it IS a serious matter to suggest I deal in evil pure and simple. This is the sort of thing people must answer to God for along with the kind of evils like youth homelessness, suicides, depression and whatnot that is a direct consequence of ongoing, gross Christian mismanagement of the entire same sex issue and that a brand of especially American religious conservatism keeps alive.
    Miguel P - there are lots of things Jesus did not say but implied by sign and action and that includes about the status of women and how to treat them. Of course Jesus did not condone, tolerate or declare about "homosexuality" when not even a word like the modern one existed and the whole subject was seen through and confused through the lens of gender and status considerations rather than orientation. Nevertheless I believe (and my you tube doesn't cover all) there are things we should understand from the gospels and bible concerning Jesus and "homosexuality".
    Alice - Pray if you will and thanks for that but beware for the effects! As indicated towards the end of the mentioned youtube, some persons of evangelical persuasion who were offended by my work, enough to study it in some detail and/or take it to Jesus, found to their surprise that Jesus commended what I was doing even to declaring I was conveying things people should know. Rubbish about Gnosticism. Were the original Magi, about whose knowledge at the end of the era you should be aware but alas aren't, Gnostics? I suppose like Origen you would call them devil worshippers? So you might be surprised, if you read my "Cosmic Father: Spirituality as Relationship" about myself and God.
    I shall say no more unless perhaps to advise you eager correspondents here: "Judge not that you be not judged"

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    1. Please hear my heart, RM. I am not responding with malice, but with a desire that you would know the Truth. Please study and understand the passage you quoted “judge not lest you be judged”.

      Below is just a portion of an article that explains what Jesus meant in Matthew 7:1. Here’s the link if you want to read it all.

      https://www.gotquestions.org/do-not-judge.html

      Question: "What does the Bible mean that we are not to judge others?"

      Answer: Jesus’ command not to judge others could be the most widely quoted of His sayings, even though it is almost invariably quoted in complete disregard of its context. Here is Jesus’ statement: “Do not judge, or you too will be judged” (Matthew 7:1). Many people use this verse in an attempt to silence their critics, interpreting Jesus’ meaning as “You don’t have the right to tell me I’m wrong.” Taken in isolation, Jesus’ command “Do not judge” does indeed seem to preclude all negative assessments. However, there is much more to the passage than those three words.

      The Bible’s command that we not judge others does not mean we cannot show discernment. Immediately after Jesus says, “Do not judge,” He says, “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs” (Matthew 7:6). A little later in the same sermon, He says, “Watch out for false prophets. . . . By their fruit you will recognize them” (verses 15–16). How are we to discern who are the “dogs” and “pigs” and “false prophets” unless we have the ability to make a judgment call on doctrines and deeds? Jesus is giving us permission to tell right from wrong.

      Also, the Bible’s command that we not judge others does not mean all actions are equally moral or that truth is relative. The Bible clearly teaches that truth is objective, eternal, and inseparable from God’s character. Anything that contradicts the truth is a lie—but, of course, to call something a “lie” is to pass judgment. To call adultery or murder a sin is likewise to pass judgment—but it’s also to agree with God. When Jesus said not to judge others, He did not mean that no one can identify sin for what it is, based on God’s definition of sin.

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  29. RM:
    “Of course Jesus did not condone, tolerate or declare about "homosexuality" when not even a word like the modern one existed and the whole subject was seen through and confused through the lens of gender and status considerations rather than orientation.”

    There is absolutely no confusion in the Bible regarding the practice of homosexuality; both testaments are very clear that it is a sin. Period. Whitewash it all you want, but, yes, you are right on one thing: we will all answer to God for our testimony while on earth.
    As for judging others, I don’t know you from Adam. I can’t (and wouldn’t) possibly judge you as a person, as only God knows your heart and what has brought you to the place you are now. I, too, will be praying for you that you might see how evil the message is in your video.

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  30. Based solely on the content provided here by RM, as I have no previous exposure to this writer, it is clear to me (a simple Redneck) that the high-mindedness with which these posts are written precludes RM from embodying a truly Christian mindset or attitude. The name dropping to justify opinions i.e. "itself approved by Pope Benedict" and "an editor at Random declared it groundbreaking, fascinating and publishable" reeks of pride and self aggrandizement. Especially an endorsement from the Catholic church, a Pope no less; wow, that wraps it for me since the Catholic church itself is clearly demonic (not the worshipers but the leaders) with the current pope being Exhibit A. Throw in there that if you're famous or talented, it's OK to sin ("some of the greatest people in history like Leonardo, Michelangelo, Turing, and so many more were gay") and that tells me all I need to know about you RM. There's been lots of people like you throughout history; Christ warned us. But it seems like simple, humble, Rednecks like me take the Bible, the written Word of God, at face value. It says what it means and it means what it says, so we'll take a pass on your learned opinions. Oh ya, and be careful who's within earshot when you're name calling; some of us sinners can bet a little testy.

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  31. God bless ANYONE who reads this and takes this right in their heart. God bless you all for understanding how merciful God is, and understanding that we ARE in the realm of sin, and yet we still find hope and love in Christ, in order for him to take us out of this realm. I personally thought this was going to be a “less interesting/mind grabbing article”, and as you can see I can be judgmental, and very wrong. I feel much love for this, and I know that it was very needed, for the comfort for struggling Christians, and I thank God and you for helping open our minds more and more each day to reality, and the truth. I hope you guys know that you seriously knock the ball out of the park sometimes, and you guys truly spread love and knowledge, even if beliefs do not compromise with some. Great article broskies and siskies

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  32. it is not wise to ARGUE your personal opinions and teachings, in the comments of a post that was meant for other concerns, every man has been shown to pride, and while you claim and point out another CHRISTIANS pride, the fact that you’re arguing shows your pride, and to be honest, since I am writing this, it shows my pride. The devil speaks to me and I feel the selfishness that he wants me to let in to my heart to “seem” as a great Christian by writing this and stating my own opinion. But we should all seriously take the ability to comment on a post, to the use of asking questions, praising, comforting, motivating, and spreading love, rather than feeding into the “adrenaline rush” of having an internet battle, and dumbing down the possibility of one who wants to have his/her comment of love and praise seen and spread by many in order to trigger that motivation, comfort, peace, and love that Christ gives you and shows to you through the words and actions of others. The arguing just causes attentions to go in the opposite direction that I’m sure this post was meant for. God bless you

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  33. For those of you who are new in this space, welcome! We are glad to have you. UNSEALED is a place where Christ followers have gathered in fellowship to share ideas, receive inspired Biblical teaching and ask questions.

    By our meeting we hope to encourage one another and stir each other toward good works as we see the Day drawing near. (Hebrews 10:24-25 ESV)

    If you've been led here or feel drawn to this place and have yet to accept Christ in your life, we invite you to consider these words of truth given us by the Lord,

    "...if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord
    and believe in your heart that God raised him from the
    dead, you will be saved.

    For with the heart one believes and is justified, and
    with the mouth one confesses and is saved.

    For the Scripture says, 'Everyone who believes in him
    will not be put to shame.'"

    (Romans 10:9-10 ESV)


    If this is you, we invite you to join us by accepting Jesus in your heart. You know who you are and that your arrival here is not by accident. There are no special words to pray, just be yourself and talk to God your heavenly Father. Be yourself. All that is required is a sincere and surrendered heart. He knows your heart and will meet you in your prayer.

    Grace and peace to you,


    Pastor Rich

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  34. PIN-POINT: Related news out of the Rugby Union on Wallabies player Israel Folau,

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-43651208

    It's just my opinion but this article is an excellent example as to how quickly this topic gets spun out of control.

    Quoting BBC: "His latest comment was a response to an Instagram user who asked Folau: 'What was god's plan for gay people?'

    The player replied: 'Hell... unless they repent of their sins and turn to God.'"


    Folau's response was blunt and to the point. Sadly the message was not understood on the receiving end. What if he would have answered something like,

    Q: What was god's plan for gay people?
    A: God's plan is that His Son Jesus lived a sinless life but still died on the cross to carry our sins to the grave. God offers Christ crucified that by faith in Him we may be saved. Jesus paid it all!


    How many of us know how to witness? How many of us know how to effectively share our story? How many of us are prepared to do so?

    These are critical times and being ready to share our (your) testimony is something we (you) should be ready to do at any time. It is incumbent of us to be ready to do so but it is requisite that we leaders teach how to tell your story!

    Please, do not be afraid to ask your Pastor(s) to teach your congregation on how to share your story! It is a game changer!

    PR



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