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The Final Four

Four years. Perhaps even less. That's all the time the world may have left before the ultimate series of prophesied catastrophes are unleashed upon the world. Most of those you know are walking straight into a trap that could have been easily avoided. There's been no shortage of voices pointing to these next four years — and not just of late, but going back 50, 60, even 70 years. This coming period of time is well-attested by researchers, religious scholars, and students of Bible prophecy; and moreover, the building crescendo of evidence in the form of signs — signs on the earth and signs in the sky — unfolding before our very eyes right here, right now, is proof positive that these next several years have always been the prophetic ground zero. But why these four? Here are three big reasons:

1. Seven years after one of these next four years will definitely be the precise 2,000-year mark from Jesus' death, resurrection, and ascension into Heaven. The end of the age, the next global catastrophe, isn't something that happens all at once as portrayed by Hollywood, but is rather a series of events stretched out over a period of seven years culminating with Jesus' bodily return to earth (Acts 1:9–12; Zech. 14:1–9). Given the expected 2,000 years between Jesus' leaving and returning, we would expect the seven-year catastrophe, called the Tribulation, to commence seven years prior to that 2,000-year mark. This Tribulation is not one, two, or 3.5 years in length, but seven.

Scholars are in near-universal agreement that Jesus was crucified in 30, 31, 32, or 33 AD. Exactly 2,000 years later, less the seven years of Tribulation, brings us to 2023, 2024, 2025, or 2026 — our prospective "final four." The year of Jesus' crucifixion can be definitively narrowed to one of the years in the range of 30–33 AD based on known evidence: the years Pontius Pilate was governor of Judaea (26–36 AD), Jesus beginning His ministry at about the age of 30 (Lk. 3:23), mere months after John's ministry began, which initiated in the 15th year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar (Lk. 3:1; sometime in 26–29 AD), and the 14 years of the Apostle Paul's ministry up to his second journey to Jerusalem which can be precisely reconstructed using the book of Acts (cf. Gal. 1:11–2:1).

But why the 2,000 years? The answer is threefold: pattern, parable, and prophecy.

The pattern is called The Day-Age Principle, not to be confused with Day-Age Creationism. Up until the advent of allegorical eschatology and the popularization of amillennialism in the 4th and 5th centuries, it was fairly standard thought in both Jewish and Christian circles that God had patterned history on the days of the week. Just as God created the universe in six days and rested on the seventh, so too He has orchestrated history over six millennia of labor and mankind's sinful rebellion to be followed by a millennial rest — the 1,000-year Messianic "Sabbath." This final millennial period is mentioned no less than six times in the 20th chapter of Revelation.

Pull any Bible off your shelf and 99 times out of 100 it will be based on what is called the Masoretic Text — the Hebrew basis for the Old Testament — that contains a precise chronology in Genesis chapters 5 and 11 placing the creation of the world approximately 4,000 years before Jesus ascended. These 4,000 years would equate to the first four millennial "days" of history. The 1,000-year reign of Christ in Revelation 20 equates to the Sabbath. 2,000 years are missing — the 2,000 years between Jesus' ascension and His return.

2 Peter 3:8 offers clear Scriptural support for the Day-Age Principle:

And do not let this one thing be concealed from you, beloved, that one day with the LORD [is] as one thousand years and one thousand years as one day . . .

Furthermore, the apocryphal Book of Jubilees, composed sometime in the last three centuries before Christ, uses the Day-Age Principle to explain how God's promise to Adam that he would surely die in the day he ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was fulfilled:

. . . [Adam] was the first to be buried in the ground. He lacked seventy years of one thousand years, for a thousand years are one day in the testimony of heaven. Therefore it is written about the tree of knowledge: “For on the day you eat from it, you shall die.” Therefore he did not complete the years of this day because he died during it. (Jubilees 4:30)

In other words, God promised Adam he would die the very day he ate the forbidden fruit and then return to dust. Surely Adam died spiritually the very moment he ate the fruit, but his body did not immediately return to dust. He lived on — for hundreds and hundreds of years, in fact. But he never saw his 1,000th birthday. He died during the first millennial day of history.

A parable is simply an allegory. The relevant allegory is found in John chapter 4 where Jesus is invited by the Samaritans to stay with them and He stays two days (Jn. 4:40). The account itself was a real event, not merely allegory, but it was analagous to the 2,000-year Church Age, the Age of Grace: first, because the Samaritans were half-Gentile; they represented both Jew and Gentile — the Church; second, because the Samaritans were kept out of the commonwealth of Israel and were despised by the Jews, just as the Church was persecuted by the Jewish authorities and cast out; the Samaritans were thought to be foolish Gentiles, fitting the Deuteronomy 32:21 pattern where God prophesies choosing the Church — a predominantly Gentile people — before He restores Israel's fortunes; and third, because the two days that Jesus stayed with the Samaritans reflects, according to the Day-Age Principle, the 2,000 years of Jesus' ministry to the world via the Church, rather than a primary ministry to Israel.

The prophecy is found in Hosea chapter 6

Come, and we turn back to YHWH, || For He has torn, and He heals us, || He strikes, and He binds us up. He revives us after two days, || In the third day He raises us up, || And we live before Him. (Hos. 6:1–2, LSV)

The Prophet Hosea speaks to and for his fellow Israelites here, pleading with them to return to the LORD. According to the prophecy given in Deuteronomy 32, called The Song of Moses, Israel's revival and restoration will only occur at the latter end, in the end times. Acts 15 confirms that God will restore Israel's fortunes only after He takes a Gentile people to Himself (Acts 15:14–18). Hosea 6 provides the Day-Age framework: Israel will be revived after the proverbial "two days" (2,000 years); in the third day — the Millennial Sabbath — Israel will be raised up. Surely this being raised up includes both the post-Tribulation physical resurrection of Israelites described in Ezekiel 37's Valley of Dry Bones, as well as Israel's national ascension to be the head of the nations and not the tail (Deut. 28:13). "And we live before Him": the Israelites will only live in the manifest presence of God during the Millennial Kingdom when their true Messiah Jesus is reigning from the throne of David.

2. The prophetic signs have precisely converged. It would be one thing if we were nearing the 2,000-year mark blindly with nothing to show for it except the Day-Age pattern, parable, and prophecy described above, but to the contrary: it just so happens that as we've neared the final four, a flood of signs has been poured out into every conceivable area you might look. Whether it be the reestablishment of Israel, the technology foreseen in the end times, specific signs in the heavens, or the lawlessness the Apostle Paul twice warned would surge at the end, the signs are unique to the very generation we're living in. The articles below aptly demonstrate the point:

Top 20 Signs Of The Rapture And Second Coming Of Christ

10 Reasons Jesus Will Come Back In Our Lifetime

The Great Sign

Awake, Watching, And Ready To Go: Nearing The Finish Line

Major Prophetic Milestones

3. The Parable of the Fig Tree. Jesus told a parable regarding a fig tree in His discourse on the end times (Mt. 24; i.e., Mt. 24:29–35). The fig tree is unambiguously a symbol of Israel that Jesus' disciples would have immediately recognized (see here and here). In the parable, Jesus describes how the fig tree's growth cycle indicates that summer is near; likewise, all the signs of the end times will indicate that the end of the age and His return are near. Most importantly, Jesus said "this generation will not pass away untill all these things come to pass" — "this generation" being the fig tree generation. The reestablishment of Israel in 1948 was the ultimate end-times sign and it started the countdown. This generation is now nearing its end, right in line with the final four and the subsequent seven years of tribulation.

In light of the general evidence for the final four above, can greater weight be given to any particular year among the four? That's harder to say, but perhaps some speculation is entailed.

Back in August I did a systematic study looking into the historical evidence for when the Shmita cycles were kept. The Shmita cycles were seven-year periods described in Leviticus 25, the book of Numbers, and elsewhere that the Israelites would observe beginning with their entrance into the Promised Land. My analysis showed that the Shmita cycles that Jews observe in Israel today are actually correct, or off by one year at most, at least in terms of how the Shmita cycles were kept in the Second Temple period (roughly 500 BC and on). While Jews slightly favor the cycle they keep today, scholars slightly favor the cycle being one year later, such that the seventh year in a cycle didn't just end, but actually just began. This means the next seven-year period would run from the fall of 2023 to the fall of 2030. I addressed this in several videos and articles on the subject.

Now given the seven-year length of the Tribulation and the seven-year length of the Shmita cycles, it has seemed to be a somewhat natural assumption that the Tribulation would run alongside a Shmita cycle. This may still prove to be the case.

When calculating the Shmita cycles, it's important to reconcile the Jubilee year, as well. According to Leviticus 25 the Jubilee year is the 50th year after a period of seven Shmita cycles. An exclusive, Western reckoning of time would tend to regard this 50th year as intercalary, and that could very well be correct. Many (though not all) Jewish treatises on the subject have also regarded it as intercalary (the Jubilee was unobserved; it was apparently never kept in the Second Temple period; perhaps not even kept before that). However, just two chapters prior to Leviticus 25 we see an inclusive count from First Fruits to Pentecost, such that counting seven full weeks (49 days) is regarded as 50 (Lev. 23:15–16); this is because the day the count is initiated (the day after the Sabbath) is reckoned among the days. It's counted as the first day, rather than a proverbial "Day Zero." Given that the Shmita cycle is patterned on the days of the week and the Jubilee is the day after the Sabbath year, just as the count to Pentecost begins the day after the Sabbath, there is some surprisingly strong Scriptural weight for regarding Jubilee cycles as 49 years in length, rather than 50, and the Shmita cycles as a repeating, unbroken chain of sevens. The Jubilee year would be the 50th year in a cycle, but also the first year in a new cycle of 50.

If this reckoning of the Jubilee cycle is correct and if the scholars are right regarding the Shmita cycles, immense weight can be given to 2023–2030. However, if Jubilee cycles are in fact 50 years long where the 50th year does not double as the first year in the next cycle, and if the assumption that the Tribulation should coincide with a Shmita cycle is also mistaken, I've found that 2023–2030 still holds weight, but for other reasons.

We know that, according to Leviticus 25, the Israelites were commanded to count off the Shmitas and Jubilees when they entered the land. We also know that the Israelites failed to do this and historically these counts have been "recalibrated" from time to time. Surmise if you will that God's count began as intended according to Leviticus 25, but never stopped. In other words, even though the Israelites failed to keep the count, God didn't. In fact, God apparently reckoned the years of the exile as payback for missed Shmitas (2 Chron. 36:21). It should also be noted that the Jews have been expelled twice, but never entirely. There has always been at least some Jewish remnant in the land. For instance, after the siege of 70 AD and the Bar Kokhba revolt decades later, a number of Jewish communities still remained in the Galilee region. That means never has there been a technicality such that the Leviticus 25 prescribed counting should have stopped.

This is all the more interesting because Scripture hints at perhaps two historic Jubilees: first, at the time of Ezekiel's vision (Ezek. 40:1), and second, when Jesus initiated His ministry (Lk. 4). When putting together any sort of macroscale Shmita and Jubilee timeline, these have to somehow be reconciled. Moreover, they have to be reconciled with the Exodus and the entrance into the Promised Land. This is no easy task.

1. The Exodus. The traditional date is 1446 BC +/- 3 years. This date is very well-attested (e.g., Thiele's chronology).

2. Entrance into the Promised Land as the start of counting the Shmitas and Jubilees (see Lev. 25). This would be 40 years after #1. The challenge is that the entrance into the Promised Land needs to be Year #1 of the first Shmita cycle.

3. Construction of the First Temple in Solomon's fourth year as king (968 BC +/- 2 years). This is also a very well-attested date. It is said to be 480 years after the Exodus (1 Kgs. 6:1).

4. Ezekiel's Jubilee Vision (Ezek. 40:1). This is given as the 25th year of his exile and the 14th year since the Temple and city were destroyed. This forces 575 BC +/- 1 year. Very little wiggle room. It's a well-attested date.

5. Jesus' Jubilee in Luke 4:17–19. While Jesus doesn't explicitly state he was announcing a Jubilee, it's strongly implied. 26–29 AD; scholars now favor 26 or 27 AD.

Using 50-year cycles, we can actually reconcile all five of the above dates. The next Jubilee would fall in 2026–2027, in the middle of the Tribulation. The first half of the Tribulation would be the last three years of a Shmita cycle and the first half of the Jubilee year and the last half of the Tribulation would be the last half of the Jubilee year and the first three years of a Shmita cycle. Aligning mid-Tribulation events with the Jubilee might be defensible if we understand Revelation 11:15 as Jubilee language regarding the return of God's property rights. And though the Tribulation wouldn't be a Shmita cycle, it would still form a clear symmetrical pattern involving the Shmita cycles.

And the seventh messenger sounded the trumpet, and there came great voices in Heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of the world became [those] of our Lord and of His Christ, and He will reign through the ages of the ages!” (Rev. 11:15, LSV)

To summarize: if Jubilee cycles are 49 years in length then it's reasonable to assume a 2023–2030 Tribulation. If Jubilee cycles are 50 years in length then 2023–2030 or 2024–2031 could fit. Either way, 2023–2030 fits well. 2024–2031 does not fit with a 49-year cycle, but it does fit with a 50-year cycle. 2025–2032 and 2026–2033 do not fit with either the historical Second Temple-era Shmita cycles or with the 50-year Jubilee cycles in a way that would reconcile Ezekiel's Jubilee (Ezek. 40:1) or Jesus' Jubilee (Lk. 4).

However, 2025 and 2026 are not entirely ruled out. If we regard Israel's reestablishment as what should commence a new count of Shmitas, then the next Shmita year would fall in either 2024–2025 or 2025–2026 and the Tribulation might begin in the fall of either 2025 or 2026 (the beginning of a new seven-year period). I think this reckoning is unlikely though: Jews were already in the land counting Shmitas long before Israel's reestablishment; furthermore, God's commandment in Leviticus 25 doesn't seem to predicate any counting on the establishment of the nation.

Finally, we must wrestle with which of the possible Crucifixion years is best supported. I was myself a proponent of 33 AD when I first started writing for Unsealed. In the past several years the preponderance of evidence led me to 31 AD. I always think it's important to check and recheck assumptions, especially on these "non-essential" issues. Exploring this further, apparently scholars now favor April of 30 AD as far and away the most likely time of the Crucifixion. In fact, it's now favored two or even three to one in scholarly circles — that "one" represents all other purported Crucifixion dates combined. 33 AD is a distant second. A 30 AD Crucifixion date also makes the start of Jesus' ministry in 26 or 27 AD very likely. These are also the dates heavily favored in professional scholarship. More importantly, 26 or 27 AD allows for a simple reckoning of the first 69 weeks of years in Daniel's prophecy (483 years) as commencing from Artaxerses first decree in 457 AD and ending with Jesus being anointed Messiah by the Spirit.

If I were to summarize my thinking on the matter, which is certainly human and never above reproach, I would have to say that the likelihood we are entering the final four years of our rapture watch is extreme. Should I put a number on it? Probably not wise, but I'm all in. And of these looming four years, I see 2023 as the most likely, followed closely by 2024. 2025 and 2026 are a distant third and fourth.

Revisiting the Fig Tree Parable

As I conclude this study, I wanted to briefly revisit Jesus' Parable of the Fig Tree. If Israel is the fig tree (true). Then might the "putting forth of leaves" be something distinct from the replanting? A couple months ago I conjectured the end of the Israeli War of Independence (March 10, 1949), but a reader has offered a possibly better alternative. "Possibly" is not really a sufficient word. Their conjecture is altogether the best alternative start date for the fig tree generation I've ever come across and I'm amazed I never spotted it before. It's the Law of Return which was passed on July 5th of 1950 formally allowing Jewish immigration back to the homeland. In other words, it's the very law that enabled Israel to grow. The Law of Return is what allowed Israel to grow from roughly 800 thousand Jews at its founding to some seven million today. Israel is the fig tree and the Law of Return is the putting forth of lots and lots of leaves. No wonder then that as we reach the end of this generation, the incoming Israeli governing coalition is seeking to amend the Law of Return in such a way that will greatly reduce the influx of Jewish immigration, stifling the fig tree's growth.

According to Jeremiah 24, which is one of many passages equating Israel to the fig tree, the good figs represent the exiles from Judah and the bad figs represent the rebellious company of Zedekiah. Perhaps then in a modern context the leaves that Jesus describes in Matthew 24 and Luke 21 represent the modern Israelites who have yet to bear fruit but will. With 1950 as our starting point, simple arithmetic points us to 2030 as the terminus ad quem or 2031 as the terminus ante quem:

1950 + 70 = 2020

1950 + 80 = 2030

1950 + (81 years minus 1 day) = July 4, 2031

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  1. I also have a lot of hope for 2023. There is a nice symmetry in Daniel's prophetic 1335 "days" pivoting around the abomination of desolation of 687-688 A.D.:

    648 B.C. City of Babylon falls (and is burned by fire) <---- 1335 years ---- (687-8 A.D.) ---- 1335 years ----> 2022-3 A.D. (U.S.A. or NYC nuked?/Meteor?)

    For the world it means destruction, however for the believer it's a "blessing" (rapture?):

    “From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days." Daniel 12:11-12

    604-3 B.C. - Nebuchadnezzar ends daily sacrifice by looting the Temple at siege of Jerusalem
    1290 years later...
    687-8 A.D. - Muslim Dome of the Rock set up on Temple Mount
    1335 years later...
    2022-3 A.D. - (rapture?)

    604-3 B.C. really stands out as the year that a lot of Daniel's prophecies are tethered to:

    604-3 B.C -- 1260+1260 --> 1917-8 (Nov 1917 - Balfour Declaration; Dec 1917 - Jerusalem liberated from Ottoman Empire after 400 years of rule)
    604-3 B.C --- 1260+1290 ---> 1947-8 (May 1948 - Re-establishment of National Israel)
    604-3 B.C ---- 1290+1290 ----> 1977-8 (Sep 1978 - Camp David accords; beginning of "peace and security")
    604-3 B.C ----- 1290+1335 -----> 2022-2023 (rapture?)


    1. Nice finds! Thanks for sharing. It's interesting to think there may be a type and shadow of the 70th week playing out over thousands of years.

    2. I made an absolutely insane discovery. It turns out that the year Joseph turned 17, and the year Jesus turned 17, and the Revelation 12 sign are tied together.

      First off, Genesis 37:2 is the verse that mentions Joseph turning 17 and Genesis 37:5-11 are the verses of his two dreams. One of his dreams were about the Sun, the Moon, and 11 Stars bowing to him. The new year happens to be on September 23rd 13 ad paralleling the Revelation 12 sign alignment on September 23rd 2017

      The easiest way to explain this is to use the Hebrew years and Annu Mundi. (I know you'll get it too)

      I've always had Jesus being born on September 11th 5 BC and crucified on April 3rd 30 AD.

      Jesus would have turned 17 on September 11th 13 AD, which is Elul 18 3773 on the Hebrew calendar. September 23rd 13 ad was the beginning of the Hebrew year 3774, paralleling the Revelation 12 sign on September 23rd 2017. Exactly 2004 years.

      Going from September 23rd 2017 and subtracting 3773 solar years brings us to the year Joseph turned 17 presumably in September 1757 BC. From there, subtract 2216 years because we know Joseph turned 17 in the year 2216 AM. That brings us to a theoretical creation date of September 3973 BC.

      From September 1757 BC to September 13 AD is 1769 years.

      So what we have is 3,773 years from the year Joseph turned 17 to the Revelation 12 sign, but 3773 on the Hebrew calendar was the year Jesus turned 17.

      Using Hebrew years we get :
      5777-3773=2004, which is the Hebrew year Joseph turned 17. So,from Jesus turning 17 to the Revelation 12 sign is 2004 years.

      We know Isaac died 12 years after Joseph turned 17. This parallels Jupiter AKA The Man child of Revelation 12 which has an orbit of 12 years.

  2. You're onto something. There's alot more evidence to what you're saying at 6000thyear.com

  3. Great stuff! I too have been thinking about the next few years as the most "high watch" years yet. I keep looking at information about what year Jesus might have been crucified in order to figure out my best guess for the second coming, and the only conclusion I came to was "no one knows!" (Which is probably one of the reasons it is still true that no one will know the day or hour of the Rapture for sure), but I will say that I agree that 33Ad is the least likely of the bunch.

    Well, I can't wait! The world keeps getting darker and more aligned with the Tribulation set up and I'm certainly ready to skip any more darkness.

    1. Thank you! Great thoughts. Can we go home yet??? (:

  4. For a while I've been thinking that 2024 will be the start of the tribulation, just because that's the 7 year anniversary of the Great Sign (seven year warning)
    The Great Sign was so exquisite in it's detail of what John saw, that it must be a time marker.
    I believe that the Rapture is imminent, so could happen at any time, but I think it will be the catalyst that sets off the tribulation.

    1. Could very well be. It doesn't fit with the historic Second Temple era Shmita cycles, but if Jubilee cycles are 50 years and the 50th year doesn't double as the first year in a new cycle, then 2024-2031 might still fit well. If we make it to Thanksgiving/Christmas 2023, 2024 will look monumentally most likely.

  5. I have come to appreciate truthinscripture.net for its take on the date of our Lord's death and resurrection. (30 AD)

    It also has a great section on the His birth if you're gearing up for the Christmas season. (The Magi met the 15-month old Jesus on December 25th, 2 BC)

    Just a heads-up as you read though . . . at the bottom of each page is a forward or backward link to progress from page to page.

    And for the record, I would like to formally request a December 25th rapture . . . right after I've eaten my holiday dinner with family, and before everyone gets argumentative or falls asleep.


    1. Interesting site. That did have a good argument involving the Jewish perspective on when "Strange things" began happening at the Temple, such as the crimson thread no longer turning crimson, that they say began 40 years before the destruction of the Temple. That's a good confirmation of the year 30AD for a crucifixion.

    2. The Maccabees rededicated the Temple on 25 December 165 BCE. It could really work out that way. I'm all ready to go!


    80 prophetic years x 360 days/prophetic year = 28,800 days
    July 5, 1950 + 28,800 days = May 11, 2029

    7 prophetic years x 360 days/prophetic year = 2,520 days
    May 11, 2029 - 2,520 days = June 17, 2022 (Beginning of the tribulation)


    80 calendar years x 365 days/calendar year = 29,200 days
    July 5, 1950 + 29,200 days = June 15, 2030

    7 calendar years x 365 days/year = 2,555 days
    June 15, 2030 - 2,555 days = June 17, 2023 (Beginning of the tribulation)

    These calculation assume that the end of the 80 year count less seven (7) years marks the beginning of the tribulation.

    My current model as comparison looks at the death of the two witnesses as the end of an 80 prophetic year count on March 21, 2027. This count begins with the birth of Israel on May 14, 1948. Their resurrection would mark the end of their 1,260 day ministry and is suggested as being on March 25, 2027 at the end of Purim. If so then their ministry would begin October 11, 2023 (Beginning of the tribulation) in time for the coming annular solar eclipse over the United States on October 14, 2023 and the beginning of Torah reading on the same day. (Parashat Bereshit) This model ends with Kingdom Day 1 on December 1, 2030 with Hanukkah I.

    IIRC, the Azovmena Prophecy states that the Rapture would be on October 5th of an unknown year with a limited nuclear exchange occurring on November 11 of the same year. If the prophecy were true and 2023 were the year in question then the day of the Rapture would fall on Hoshana Raba (after sunset) this coming fall. (A fit for my study model and one week before the modeled arrival of the two witnesses).

    I am also working on a new model for a 32 AD crucifixion based upon DSS accounts concerning the Messiah. This model suggests the new moon of March 30, 32 AD (April 1, 32 AD Julian) provides for the first Seder (Last Supper) on the night of the blood moon on April 14, 32 AD (April 16, 32 AD Julian) and a Resurrection Day on April 18, 32 AD (April 20, 32 AD Julian). The dates are all subject to further confirmation.

    This model provides for a 33-1/2 year lifespan with the birth of our Lord in the year 3 BC (no year zero) on (or about) September 11th when Jupiter (king planet) was in a triple conjunction with Regulus (king star) in the constellation Leo. The celestial signs plus Essene records of the DSS are why I now fall to 32 AD for the year of the cross having once been in the 33 AD camp too.

    1. PS, I should add that I am not totally onboard with the Azovmena Prophecy but share it as it has seen partial fulfillment with the Russian invasion of Ukraine and we have discussed it briefly here before.

      An important point to keep in mind is that global war will be a feature of the coming time of testing.

    2. Thanks for sharing, PR. I always appreciate your awesome models and insights.

      If my speculation turns out to be true, it would be an interesting parallel given Jesus' ministry would have begun 2,000 years prior to when the ministry of the two witnesses ends.

  7. Gary, are you aware of CJ Lovik's "Rock Island Books" YouTube channel?

    1. Yes, I've seen a few of his. If I recall, he once favored 30 AD. Perhaps he still does.

    2. From his last vid, CJ Lovik now believes the crucifixion date was 31ad.

  8. Past and Future.
    In the past, we've looked at signs in the heavens-----September 11, 3BC, June 17, 2BC, December 25, 2 BC, September 23, 2017, etc. We have for the most part been looking "back" at events and signs.

    In the future, are there "interesting" signs (conjunctions, crowning, etc.) in the heavens for the year 6000 or year 7000 (+/- a few years) from which we could refine our current date on God's calendar?

    I'm not a user (yet) of Stellarium, but was wondering if looking "forward" in order to look "backward" might yield some insights in case God displayed something in the heavens for us to find.


    1. Hi Jon,

      As a matter of fact I spend a lot of time studying future signs and post on that topic as often as I can. I use Sky Guide which is an iPhone app for making celestial observations.

      Examples of future signs may be found in this coming Shavuot on June 4, 2023 when Mars will be in the Beehive Cluster (Manger) in the constellation Cancer with Venus nearby entering Cancer. The Sun will be crowning the head of Taurus. Mercury/Jupiter/Uranus will be in Aries (Ram) and Saturn in Aquarius. The Moon will be in conjunction with Antares in Scorpius.

      On the modeled day of the arrival of the two witnesses (10/11/23) the Sun/Mercury/Mars are all in Virgo. The new moon is in Leo with Venus which is in conjunction with Regulus. Jupiter and Uranus are still in Aries and Saturn is still in Aquarius.

      On the total solar eclipse of August 2, 2027 over the Valley of the Kings/Luxor/Jeddah/Mecca we find the Sun and Moon in Cancer (Manger) very near the Beehive Cluster where Venus is centrally located. Mercury is preparing to enter Cancer. Jupiter (king planet) is in conjunction with Regulus (king star) in Leo. Mars is in the left arm (hand) of Virgo, Uranus is in the head of Taurus and Saturn is in the middle of chords of Pisces.

      Building models helps focus on dates and see what lies out there. I prefer to use Libre Office Calc to build calendar models and annotate them with comments, event data and Scriptural references.

      Yes, I think that these observations help bring insight. We can build models based on what we find and try matching that to what we have in the Word.

    2. Correction: On 10/11/23 the moon is a waning crescent in Leo not a new moon. It is nearing the end of its cycle.


  9. Mr. Gary, I have been awaiting this article with such hope for the calming of my soul . After deeply studying and re-reading your words, and the words of the responders, my soul says to me - Sally, you have known since your Salvation , that your testing will be a daily/ hourly challenge . That is my assignment until I can look into HIS face . MARANATHA ! ... soon, come soon .

  10. There is also the very curious battle of Prophets between Jeremiah and Hananiah in Jeremiah 28.

    Hananiah goes first and states that within 2 years, the wooden yoke would be broken, the vessels of the Lord would return, and Jehoiakim’s son Jeconiah, king of Judah would return with all the exiles of the Lord.

    Jeremiah strangely goes on to say "Amen, ... May the Lord truly do this thing! May the Lord fulfill the words that you prophesied to bring back the vessels of the Lord’s Temple and all the exiles from Babylon to this place."

    Many see this as Jeremiah being sarcastic, but I see it as a hidden blessing. Its a timeframe of the wooden yolk (time of the Cross of Christ) which ends in the return of "Jehoiakim’s son Jeconiah, king of Judah" ie.... Jesus Christ, the king of the Jews....

    Then Jeremiah goes on to say that the wooden yoke that was broken will be replaced with an iron yoke, which could symbolize Jesus Christ ruling the next 1000 years with a rod of iron.

    1. I know Jeremiah 28 is talking about Christ because of verse 9.

      9 When a prophet prophesies peace, and what the prophet speaks comes about, he will be known as the prophet whom the Lord has truly sent.

      Jesus Christ was that prophet

    2. Christ Jesus. Prophet, King and Priest forever of the Order of Melchizedek.


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  12. Couple of things came to mind when reading this (great work again, Gary)
    I found this an interesting take on Matthew 24:44 [Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.]
    The phrase “hour you do not expect” could also be translated as “a season never supposed”. That carries with it a couple of potential meanings. Either that Jesus is coming for us at a time when things are unimaginable, like now, or that Jesus is coming at a time when few think He will, also like now. Whichever meaning is the one that God intended, both make clear that the hour is late. The Jews are back in the land, the fig tree has put forth leaves, and the unknown day or hour is likely very near.
    @Gary – With me not knowing how to interpret the original Greek, would “a season never supposed” be a correct reading?
    I pulled this from an article on Harpingers Daily. You can read the whole article here:
    We Are The Generation

    The other:
    With a number of nations getting ready to “test” Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC), Elon saying that Neuralink is ready for human testing, and Gog/Magog war looming on the horizon, I think 2 – 3 years from now is to START the tribulation is too long of a timeframe. If the Rapture happened yesterday, we could easily have Gog/Magog start next year (some of the arms shipped to Ukraine are ending up in Put (Libya) and Cush (Ethiopia) today). CBDC and Neuralink will definitely be ready by the Tribulation mid-point, especially with Satan whispering in the ears of the programmers.

  13. It's crazy how perfect this lines up with Satan's version of the final Jubilee (i.e., the Great Reset) in 2030 using the WEF

    1. And at the bottom of the page at https://sdgs.un.org/gsdr/gsdr2023#:~:text=The%202023%20Global%20Sustainable%20Development,SDGs%20will%20be%20urgently%20needed. it even says "The 2023 Global Sustainable Development Report will be launched as the world approaches the half-way point of the 2030 Agenda..." Many have made analogies (from Genesis and elsewhere in the Bible) to the 7 good years (starting in 2015-2016) to the 7 bad years (starting in 2022-2023).

    2. The "7 good years and 7 bad years" paradigm does seem to have some significance . . . especially when you realize that the privileged elite used the Financial Crisis after 2008 to "Quantitatively Ease" world losses, and to over-inflate their portfolios at the expense of economic and political stability around the globe. Seven good years for the 1%. But now we see the fruit of that. Seven years of famine, disease, war, and moral rot on the horizon. Is it a coincidence that all of the commotion is happening in the Eastern hemisphere? That the Kings of the East are stirring? That in the prophecy, the seven worthless heads of grain (fake prosperity and harvest) were scorched by the East wind?


  14. Thank you so much for sharing this Gary. I can't express how much joy and encouragement that I found from your article.

    I have longed for "many years" to find others that have seen the same things in Scripture and through the writings of the Early Church leaders (like Irenaeus). I feel I have finally found those believers like you, through Pete Garcia.

    Back in 2000, I began going out and sharing the Gospel and I also took a leadership position in my church. It was certainly a blessed time, as I grew in my understanding of God's Word daily, and learned to walk by the Holy Spirit through prayer. God also led me to read the book of Revelation for the first time through an IV bible study I was doing by myself. I remember reading Rev 20 for the 1st time, and being intrigued by the 1000 years. Even though I had attended churches growing up, I NEVER heard of the 1000 year reign of Christ.

    When I began an in-depth study of Genesis, the Holy Spirit compelled me to start listing the ages of each of the men and when they had a son. I saw that there was around 2000 years between Adam and Abraham. With another 2000 years from Abraham to Jesus, I then remembered the 1000 years in Rev 20. I was amazed! It seemed like there would be 7000 years. I wanted to draw a chart of this, and that is when I came across Clarence Larkin's 1918 "The Greatest Book on Dispensational Truth" at the local Berean Christian Bookstore. I was amazed, as Larkin had already drawn the charts I had in mind (and much, much more). I had never heard of Dispensationalism.

  15. Continued:

    I later became aware of the Fig Tree Parable, and it's prophetic significance. It is a special parable for me, because my father, who was raised an Orthodox Jew, was born on May 15, 1948 (the first full day of Israel's nationhood). I remember researching and coming across Psalm 90, which talk about 70-80+ years being a lifetime. I remember adding 80 to 1948 and thinking, that would be around 2028.

    I told my wife and some family members in August of 2001, that in order for the events of Revelation to happen by around 2028, something had to happen to set stage. I said, something like the "World Trade Centers" need to be blown up to set the stage. I shared this statement several times with during that month. So when the WTC's were being attacked, my mother-in-law called to tell me to turn on the TV. She said, "Weren't we just talking about this?" My reaction was a little different that most. It had almost seemed like a "prophesied" it. What is also interesting, is that my parents were in Vegas on 9/11, celebrating the day they first met. Also, exactly a year before 9/11, I wrote down on a piece of paper (something I don't usually do) "I feel horrible and don't know why." I felt "down" and was wondering if I had some unconfessed sin or something.

    Later on, I looked at the Jubilee years, I found mention in Josephus, that a Jubliee Year would be around 2028:

    According to William Whiston's footnotes to Josephus. Based on Josephus’
    calculations, -24 BC was a Sabbatical Year, and -23 BC was the Jubilee Year. This
    would confirm the timeline that 27 AD was indeed a Sabbatical Year, and 28 AD was a
    Jubilee Year, the exact year Jesus read aloud the Jubilee proclamation from Isaiah.

    Like you, Pete Garcia and Lee Brainard, I definitely believe that we are in the last few years. Hosea's 2 years are almost up.

    I have been "compelled" to share the Gospel like never before, and have had crazy confirmations. Sharing the Gospel is all I can think of. I feel compelled to plant as many "seeds" as possible, in hopes of those "seeds" taking root during the Tribulation. This includes sharing, sharing with my Jewish Father, who is not a believer, and who I believe is the "generation that will not pass away."

    God Bless you brother.
    Thank you so much for taking the time write.
    I was just amazed at how we are on the same page.

    Be caught doing the Father's Business :)

    "For in as many days as this world was made,
    in so many thousand years shall it be concluded."
    -Irenaeus "Against Heresies" (Book V, Chapter 28.3)
    (130–202 AD)

    "The nation of Israel will revive, and when it shall reach the point where it shall "put forth leaves" then we shall have the "FIG-TREE SIGN" that Christ's return is not far away."
    -Clarence Larkin in 1918
    (30 years before Israel's rebirth as a nation)

    1. Welcome to UNSEALED.ORG brother! We're so glad that you've found us and that you have joined us in fellowship.

      Grace and peace to you and yours, always,


    2. I have prayed many time for the salvation of my Jewish father, as well. One of the great gifts the Lord gave me, after many years of praying, was when my brother prayed with me and accepted Christ. The seed took root and he loves the Lord. Keep hope, my friend, all things are possible for our good Father.

    3. Praying with you for your father Owlhead. As you said, "all things are possible for our good Father" and salvation, Yeshua (ישוע) comes in His time.

      Here is an excellent resource for learning to share the gospel with Jewish believers and good news to share with friends and loved ones. HIGHLY recommended,

      Zev Porat - Messiah of Israel Ministries

      Zev ministers in the streets of Israel from the Tanakh opening the eyes of those who have yet to see that Yeshua (salvation) is found throughout the Book of the Law. So powerful to see the Holy Spirit at work and teaching that is easy to grasp. Finding Jesus in the pages of the Hebrew Scriptures.

      Praying with you!


    4. Thank you, Pastor Rich. On top of him being Jewish, he was also a science teacher, and deals with severe mental illness. He was always atheist but has to come to realize he's agnostic after seeing God work in my life enough times. Perhaps there will be another miracle in my life before he breathes his last.

  16. One more sign showed up today on our T.V. AARP is encouraging their members to apply for on-line ‘credits’ for the good things they do for their own well being and for the planet. (As usual, targeting the most vulnerable first.) This will fit hand in glove with the next fake money scheme.

    This isn’t about fear or dread; just checking what time it is.

    Many days when I’m paying attention, I get a parable. For the years we’ve lived in this house, the bus has picked up the school kids at a four-way intersection in my line of view. The other day, I noticed the bus came from an unexpected direction and loaded up at a place that was later but safer. It caused me also to think outside the box. And to consider times I had ‘thought not’ before.

  17. Thank you Gary for the great work! A lot makes sense, but my difficulty is that if Israel is burning weapons from the Gog and Magog war for 7 years, then the Gog and Magog war seems as though it would need to occur at least 3.5 before the start of the tribulation, in order to end 3.5 years into the tribulation (before the Jews flee). So even if the Gog and Magog war ended today, which isn't obviously happening, then we are talking 10.5 years minimum until Christ's second coming. I think choosing the 33AD is even cutting it to close for Christ's return. As it's likely Israel will be done burning sometime prior to the midpoint in the tribulation, and the Gog and Magog war still has some time before that occurs. So it's extremely likely more than 10.5 years, if it is correct in the thinking of burning weapons for 7 years. I do believe the rapture could certainly be anytime now, but I'm not so sure about end of the tribulation being in less than 10 years from today. Of course I'm open to rethinking this, and open to any thoughts. Maranatha!

  18. This incredible video called "CELESTIAL COUNTDOWN TO CHRIST’S 1,000-YEAR REIGN! AN 119-YEAR PATTERN - THE PURIM SETUP" will detail the celestial events of an ongoing 83-year celestial pattern that points to Christ's 1,000yr reign and a window for the rapture dubbed the Esther Rapture. Science confirms these patterns and even more incredible is that all celestial signs point to God! This is an extensive video that ties in celestial events dating back to 1949 and moving forward to 2033 at Christ's Return! The blood moons run in saros 83 year intervals which is actual astronomy that rocks my world


    I'm building a "re-study" model that graphically lays side-by-side the lifetime of patriarchs according to Genesis 5 and 11 through Abram but this time notes who died/departed in what order. It never occurred to me that after Adam died that Enoch was taken. It would be little more than a Jubilee later that Adam's son Seth would die at age 912 followed by Enosh, Kenan, Mahalalel and Enoch's father, Jared.

    According to Ken Johnson's work with the DSS, Enoch was the third king/priest/prophet of the Order of Melchizedek. Adam was first with Kenan the second. Accordingly, Jesus is the tenth and last of the Order of Melchizedek.


  20. If I recall its been generally agreed upon here that Jesus's true birthdate is Sept. 11 3bc. And that he began his ministry at age 30 which lasted 2 to 3 yrs.
    30 yrs.from 3bc if you count year 0 would be 27a.d.
    My question is if year 0 should be counted. If we skip to year 1 then that would move Jesus's 30th birthday to 28 a.d. which would place the crucifixion at 31 a.d.
    Its my personal belief that the Rapture is less than two years away. A full 2000 yrs. between the ascension and the return makes perfect sense.

    1. You're looking in the right direction! I've studied and modeled 30-33 AD as years of the cross and have had to resort to building by hand calendars as those online offer inconsistencies. Astronomical software like Sky Guide (which is what I use) use year zero for their dating. Our daily calendar does not.

      IMHO, September 11, 3 BC is a solid date for the birth of our Lord. This was Yom Teruah. Some place it a few days later at Sukkot (Tabernacles). It was customary for the Zadok order of priests to begin their ministry at age 30. (The Levitical priests began temple service at age 25 and usually served for 25 years). The Order of Melchizedek was a lifetime service or until another priest was anointed. Jesus bar Joseph of Nazareth was the tenth and last priest of that order. (I HIGHLY recommend, "The Ancient Order of Melchizedek" by Ken Johnson for all the details to these comments).

      Year zero has to be compensated for clearly as there was no year "0" going from BC (BCE) to AD (CE). Year "0" on Sky Guide would be 1 BC and so on just as you've said,

      3 BC (Jesus born at the fall feasts)
      2 BC (age one)
      1 BC (Magoi arrive bearing gifts "the first Christmas" / age two)
      1 AD (age three)
      2 AD (age four)
      3 AD (age five)

      ...skipping ahead...

      28 AD (Jesus begins His ministry reading from Isaiah 61? Age 30)
      29 AD (age 31)
      30 AD (age 32)
      31 AD (age 33 at the fall feasts)
      32 AD (Lamb of God slain age 33-1/2 at Pesach in the Spring)

      I believe it is HIGHLY likely that the earthly ministry of Jesus was 1,260 days in length (no more than 1,290 days). A times, time and half a time, 42 months or 3-1/2 years and may be keyed off of His ascension.

      Agreed, it makes sense that return would be about 2,000 years later. We do know that the time of trouble will be cut short. If it were not no human would be left alive. (Matthew 24:22) I still ponder the meaning of that and have to wonder if it is the 2,000 years being cut short?

      More study and prayer points.

      It's hard to render this in ASCII and keep formatting. I build my models in Libre Office Calc using published celestial and seasonal data from NASA and Biblical tradition (interpretations) for building the different calendars by hand based on the Equinox, if for the Essene calendar and New Moon for the Pharisee calendar.

    2. Program Notes,

      Keep in mind that in the fall of 3 BC Jupiter (king planet) had a triple conjunction with Regulus (king star) in Leo (king). As Rick Larson said, "King, king, king!"
      This happened at Yom Teruah (Feast of Trumpets). In 1 BC Jupiter was seen in the pre-dawn skies above Bethlehem. On December 25th it stopped in retrograde motion over Bethlehem when viewed from Jerusalem. Also of note is that the Southern Cross (Crux) was visible over the horizon very near Bethlehem on that morning!)

    3. Thank you so much for sharing Pastor Rich. I really enjoyed your breakdown of Jesus Birth to Death breakdown, starting with September 11th, 3 BC (Yom Teruah). I had never seen that before. Just another September 11th that seems to be significant, which would make 32AD Jesus's death on the cross. I'd love to see your breakdowns for the 30, 31, 33 AD also. I believe that Sir Isaac Newton initially predicted 2034.

      I've been a Calculus teacher for 14 years, so numbers are my thing. In the past, I keep being drawn to number 32, as it is my favorite number for a number of reasons (for example, my football # in high school). I thought it was cool to see that 32 AD was a possible date of Jesus's crucifixion. I later saw that Ken Johnson had also put 32 AD due to the Essene calendar.

      Sir Robert Anderson's "The Coming Prince" also had 32 AD.

      Thanks again for sharing. I feel so blessed to find this site with likeminded believers.

      Where are you located, btw?


    4. Mathematics didn't come easy to me and didn't come to me at all until later in life. I still have challenges but as I said like to model using Calc. The models for 30/31 and 33 AD didn't provide acceptable solutions so were not further developed. I used to be in the camp of 33 AD but considering all things and a 3 BC birth? I cannot see any other year than 32 AD. To reach that conclusion one must look beyond what some websites give for dates and timings for the appointed feasts as I believe they are not quite accurate.

      Another feature of 32 AD is the blood moon of April 14. A further breakdown of the details of that event are in order as I flesh-out that model.

    5. If you want mind blowing celestial insights into the blood moons and eclipses regarding cycles I mentioned above then do not go another day without looking at the videos explaining the science of the blood moons running in what is called the saros cycles, 83 year intervals which are genuine astronomical evidence of the Hand of God & His time clock.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUjDgE5zv1Q and also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf4dkHOhiNA

  21. Hi Gary, Chad shared this post and I was wanted to add my thoughts around Chris being crucified in relation to the Daniel 9 prophecy. I concluded Christ died 31AD.
    I've been studying the Daniel 9 prophecy for about a year and spent countless hours doing the math and reading other peoples theories and papers on the subject. This is what I discovered.
    Artaxerxes I ascended the throne in July of 465BC. It is clear that the command to restore and build Jerusalem came from Artaxerxes in Nehemiah 2 in his 20th year and in the month of Nisan. It was not Cyrus in 539BC in Ezra 1, this was talking about the temple, so Daniel 9:25 is referring to Artaxerxes command.
    The prophecies of Daniel are in prophetic years, not Julian years, so it makes sense to use 360 day years. I checked Stellarium in July 465BC and sure enough there was an unusual cosmological in July when Jupiter, the king planet conjuncts with Regulus the King star in Leo along with Mercury, the messenger of God. A very rare conjunction that just happens to line up in the same month and year of his ascension to the throne. This was July 11th. (This conjunction of Jupiter and Regulus also happened when Christ was born on 11th Sept 3BC on the Feast of Trumpets)
    This would mean his 19th year ended after 6840 days (19x360). This was April 3rd 446BC. So the first day of his 20th year was April 4th 446BC, this also happens to be Nisan 11, 3 days out from Passover (Nisan 14 446BC) This date would then match the verse in Nehemiah 2:1 which says "And it came to pass in the month of Nisan, in the 20th year of King Artaxerxes.
    And we know from Daniel 9:26, that the Messiah will be cut off after 69 weeks, which is 483 years which prophetically is 173,880 days.
    So adding 173,880 on to the 4th April 446BC you land on April 25th 31AD to the exact day. Funnily enough this is Nisan 14 Passover in 31AD, hence my belief that Christ died on Passover 31AD.

    1. Looking at this model I can confirm the celestial event of July 11, 465 BC (no year zero) using Sky Guide. A triple conjunction of Regulus, Mercury and Jupiter. A quick check of Torahcalendar.com points us to Pesach Sheni (Second Passover) for April 25, 31 AD.

      Torahcalendar has the Spring Equinox on the right date for 31 AD and placed Rosh Chodesh Nisan with the New Moon of March 11. (My new moon data differs slightly from theirs). That puts Pesach about March 27th of that year. If the later date is used for Rosh Chodesh Nisan (April 10, 31 AD) then Pesach Sheni (4/25) should be Pesach for that year. There is a partial lunar eclipse on April 25, 31 AD but it was far from a blood moon.

      As you can see the calendars are a bit of work to get around and model. The question is where does Rosh Chodesh fall for the given month? This is where the Essene calendar is SO MUCH EASIER!!! No new moons just the Tekufah of each season and 30 day months. But that calendar will not help us here although you can model that and see what you get?

      I just found this calculator and am starting to test it out for modeled dates

      Planetcalc Online Calculators - Julian and Gregorian calendars.

      A hunting we will go!!!

  22. Some very interesting work by my Australian brother James Andrews on eclipse cycles here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpMPo131tJ0

  23. Was wondering how the dates map out if Jesus age from conception (AFC) was used instead of birth date. (9 months earlier).

    AFC Date (mm/dd/yyyy)

    0 12/25/04 BC Conception. Before Quirinius (governor of Syria) ended his first term in
    4 BC, he gave decree for a census, which is when/why Mary/Joseph
    went to Bethlehem (Luke 2:2). A decree would be initiated during (or
    soon after) his reign. This would be Hanukkah 4BC at the latest. This is
    also the timeframe when Jesus was conceived (rough estimate based on
    9/11/03 BC birth date)
    .75 09/11/03 BC Jesus born (triple conjunction of Regulus/Jupiter)
    1 12/25/03 BC One year anniversary of conception
    1.5 06/17/02 BC Conjunction of Jupiter / Venus (appears as a single bright star, Wise men
    see it and start their journey to Bethlehem)
    2 12/25/02 BC Christmas star (Jupiter) goes into retrograde and appears to stop, Wise
    men arrive sometime shortly thereafter & before 01/06/01Epiphany
    (conjecture) to worship Jesus
    2 01/06/01 BC Epiphany (celebrated by some churches today, end of 12 days of
    Christmas) (Mary/Joseph/Jesus flee to Egypt around / after this time)
    3 12/25/01 BC
    XX No year zero
    4 12/25/01 AD Anniversary of conception
    5 12/25/02 AD
    29 12/25/26 AD
    30 12/25/27 AD
    31 12/25/28 AD
    32 12/25/29 AD
    33 12/25/30 AD
    33.3 04/xx/31 AD Crucifixion / Easter ??
    34 12/25/31 AD
    34.3 04/xx/32 AD Crucifixion / Easter ??
    35 12/25/32 AD
    35.3 04/xx/33 AD Crucifixion / Easter ??


    1. Maybe, Jon!

      Your celestial observations and dating look right and we all know that life begins at conception. That framework would lead to Jesus being just short of 33-1/2 years old at the Day of the Cross if for a 31 AD crucifixion in April.

      My early question in all of these models is what convention (or calendar) to follow? I have found that man's conventions seem to be the one to follow as God's message is given to man and in a language that man should understand. This is why I have modeled Essene and Pharisee calendars as I have. The Essene calendar points to incredible events. The Bethlehem Star of 2022 on (4/30) was one of them. But which calendar was in use on the Day of the Cross? It was the calendar of the ruling Pharisees. Jesus' resurrection would mean something to them that they didn't want to admit according to their reckoning of time. The same can be said of birthdays which are celebrated at birth not according to our conception. That's the convention.

      This is the conclusion I (personally) have come to with models. Context and perspective according to the most basic and accepted understanding.

      Going back to the Essenes, their records predict the death of Messiah squarely in 32 AD but even Ken Johnson will admit the dates can be give or take a year.

      Aren't you glad this isn't a salvation issue? We are given just enough to keep digging, sharing and talking about the LORD and that's what really matters.

      We believe!

      (John 6:28-29)


      The Bethlehem Star event of the evening of June 17, 2 BC was well above the horizon and visible in Leo, very near Regulus, with Mercury and Mars in tow at 7:26 PM local time in Jerusalem! It was just after sunset.

      Was this the real birthday of Jesus?

      I wouldn't say so. If anything it was a sign to the Magoi to hit the trail and ride westward following the star. The star in this case was not just the Bethlehem Star but the wandering star (we call them planets) Jupiter which would ultimately lead them to the Christ.


  24. Yeshua our First Fruits:

    Although not happening coincidentally, the Wave Offering and the Resurrection of Yeshua are
    linked together prophetically by the Apostle Paul.

    But in fact Messiah has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have
    fallen asleep. For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of
    the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. But each in
    his own order: Messiah the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Him.
    (1 Cor. 15:20-23)

    Here the apostle clearly links the firstfruit offering with the resurrection of Yeshua our
    Mashiach. Yeshua's resurrection was like a "wave offering" presented before the Father as
    the "firstfruits" of the harvest to come! Moreover, Yeshua presented His firstfruits offering to
    the Father on this day:

    The tombs also were opened. And many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep
    were raised, and coming out of the tombs after his resurrection they went into the holy
    city and appeared to many. (Matt. 27:52-53)

    Our Lord offered to the Father the "early crops" of what will be an overwhelming harvest at
    the end of the age (acharit hayamim).

    Yeshua is the first-begotten of the Father (Heb. 1:6); the Firstborn of Creation (Col. 1:15-
    16); the first-begotten of the dead (Rev. 1:5) and is the Firstfruits of those who are to be
    resurrected (1 Cor. 15:20-23). Baruch HaShem. And just as He is our Firstfruits, so "He chose
    to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of first fruits of all he
    created" (James 1:18).

    With that as a background from (https://hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Spring_Holidays/First_Fruits/first_fruits.html),
    I hope the teaching of Paul to the Colossians 2:16-17 is a little easier to understand.
    Which ultimately points to the "Catching Away".

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    3. Can you imagine what the Sadducees had to say about all of the dead walking the streets of Jerusalem? So much for claiming there was no resurrection! No wonder so many were saved on Pentecost. Hard to refute the testimony of a friend or neighbour that was raised from the dead.

      With the signs around the Spring Equinox to the Bethlehem Star and Shavuot this year I cannot help but wonder if they were one year head's up for the coming birth of the man-child? (Meaning the Rapture). I agree that the Feast of First Fruits is a clear picture of the harpazo.

    4. Ha! That's a good point Pastor Rich. Maybe that's why there are no Sadducees today.

    5. Remember what the angel of the LORD said to Abraham,

      10 The LORD said,

      "I will surely return to you
      about this time next year,
      and Sarah your wife shall
      have a son."

      And Sarah was listening at the
      tent door behind him.

      (Genesis 18:10 ESV)

      Abraham and Sarah were promised a son one year before his coming. The child they were waiting for. A son. Could Sarah be a type of the woman of (Revelation 12:1)? Surely she is!

  25. https://www.fullbibletimeline.com/end-times-abrahamic-life-code

    This article had an interesting take on why the Rapture might be in 2030 based on events in Abraham's life. Most of it might be old news, but I thought the parallel with Abraham had something I hadn't seen before, so I leave this for others perusal.

    1. *facepalm* I meant Rapture in 2023. Sheesh.

    2. Sherrill, I look forward to reading that article! It reminds me of how DARKNESS was associated with the covenant God made with Abram! I wrote about this in The Horror of Darkness and The Everlasting Covenant

      "Immediately, it came into my spirit that just as a horrifying great darkness fell prior to God making His everlasting covenant with Abram, a horrifying great darkness will fall again when that same covenant is broken."

      And NOW Netanyahu is supposedly going to be forced to break this covenant (see The Birth and the Star)

    3. Sherrill, thanks for posting the link above about the end-times-abrahamic-life-code. Interesting. 2000-2000-2000 year breakdown ending in 2030 (rapture 2023). Jon

  26. A continuation from my above post.

    Chronology of the Death, Burial and Resurrection of Yeshua

    Here is a tentative chronology of the key events surrounding Yeshua's death, burial and resurrection. Yeshua was crucified on Nisan 14 (a Thursday), exactly when the Passover Lambs were being offered at the Temple, and He rose from the dead three days and nights later, on the night of Nisan 17 (i.e., before sunrise on Sunday):

    Nisan 14 evening - Yeshua's early Seder (Wed. night)
    Nisan 14 daytime - "Preparation day" (Luke 23:54; Mark 15:42) for Passover. Yeshua died Thursday afternoon at the same time that the korban Pesach (Passover Lamb) was prepared (sacrificed) at the Temple and was buried before sundown.
    Nisan 15 evening - The High Sabbath of Passover begins (the actual Seder night) Nisan 15 daytime - The High Sabbath of Passover (Friday before sundown)
    Nisan 16 evening - The Weekly Sabbath begins (Friday after sundown)
    Nisan 16 daytime - Weekly Sabbath, waving of the omer (Saturday)
    Nisan 17 evening - Yeshua was resurrected some time before sunrise on Sunday. Nisan 17 daytime - Women bring spices to the tomb early in the morning. Disciples encounter risen Messiah.

    To understand this reckoning, you must remember that a Jewish day starts at sundown and ends at twilight the following day. If Yeshua was on the cross on Nisan 14 (during the time of sacrifice of korban Pesach at the Temple) and was raised after three days and nights, we then would have the following:

    1. Yeshua was crucified and buried on Nisan 14, a Thursday afternoon (i.e., 1/2 day). This was also the "Preparation Day" for the Sabbath of Passover that would begin after sundown that same day.

    2. He was in the tomb Nisan 15 (from sundown until twilight Fri. = 1 day) and

    3. He was in the tomb Nisan 16 (from sundown until twilight Sat. = 1 day) and

    4. He was also in the tomb on Nisan 17 (i.e., after sundown Sat. = 1/2 day) BUT

    5. He later rose from the dead that day Nisan 17 (i.e., before sunrise Sun. morning)

    If you add these up you get 1/2 + 1 + 1 + 1/2 = 3 days and nights (Matt. 12:40). He therefore was crucified on Thursday, Nisan 14 (before sundown) and was resurrected on Sunday, Nisan 17 (before sunrise) on the third day (Luke 24:45-46). The disciples then encountered the risen Lord on Nisan 17, a Sunday morning (Matt. 28:1-10).

    It is also important to understand that there are more Sabbaths in the Jewish year than there are "seventh days" on the Jewish calendar. For instance, Passover and the other holidays are regarded as Sabbaths, and therefore in Mark's gospel the women are said to have come to the tomb after the Sabbaths (i.e., σαββάτων, a plural noun) which indicates that both Passover (Nisan 15) and the following day (i.e., Nisan 16, the seventh day of the week) were regarded as Sabbath days (see the Greek text for Mark 16:2).

  27. Mem B'Omer ־40th Day of the Omer
    Celebrating the Ascension of the Messiah

    Since the resurrection of Yeshua occurred during the first day of the omer (i.e., on YomHaBikkurm), and the Holy Spirit was given to the disciples 50 days later on Shavuot (Pentecost), all of Yeshua's post-resurrection appearances occurred during the days of the Omer count.

    Some of these appearances were as follows:

    On the first day of the Omer, Yeshua appeared to Mary Magdalene (Mark 16:9; John 20:16-18), some other women (Matt. 28:5-10), and then to Simon Peter (Luke 24:34; 1 Cor. 15:5).

    On the second day, He appeared to the two on the Road to Emmaus (Luke 24:13-32) and later that evening to the twelve disciples (Mark 16:14; Luke 24:33-39; John 20:19).

    A week later, He appeared to the Twelve again (John
    20:26) and eight days later appeared to Thomas (John 20:24-29).

    Some time later, He appeared the third time to the disciples as they went back to their fishing jobs (John 21:1-14).

    Sometime later Yeshua appeared to 500 (1 Cor. 15:6) and then to James, the half-brother of
    our Lord Yeshua (1 Cor. 15:7).

    On Iyyar 25, or the 40th day of the Omer (called Mem B'Omer: מ״ם בעומרYeshua), ascended into heaven from Bethany and commanded His followers not to leave Jerusalem until the promise of the Father was fulfilled during Shavuot (Luke 24:44-53; Acts 1:9-11; Eph. 4:8)

    The sign of Jonah the prophet was the only sign given as proof of who Jesus was. Matthew 12:38-39, Matthew 16:4.

    Paul says the feast's of the Jews are shadows of things to come for the Church. The ־40th Day of the Omer, Ascension Day of the Messiah is contained in the "Counting of the Omer" Leviticus 23:15-16.

    That is what makes "Ascension Day" Rapture, harpazo, Catching Away Day.
    It's also a Jonah sign "40 day warnning".

    1. Don't forget that three days and three nights are also part of the sign of Jonah.

    2. Hosea 5:15 is also a reference to the ascension. This gives the context for Hosea 6:2.

  28. Sherrill777,

    Thank you for that link. It was a more concise version of what I've run into in the past, and so much easier to share with friends than anything that I had on hand! And going back to the article at the top, a Second Coming in 2030 lines up perfectly with the 80 years after the Law of Return.

    I wish that I knew the date of the Rapture, sure. I don't pretend to be unapprehensive about it. And between the parallels, models, patterns, and things which have come before, I do not pretend to know whether it's a spring feast or harvest feast which we will see last on this earth. But I *feel* that it is soon in my heart. The weight of it not altogether different than God's conviction. I look forward to seeing them both resolved.

    I am altogether tired of this world and the things that have been wrought by mankind.

    As an aside, the link that you provided makes mention of Abram settling in the city of Haran, named after Harran, his dead brother.

    SEVEN years later, the true believer, Abram, left the house of his earthly father Terah, and the home of a former earthly son, Harran, to go to a place prepared by his new and Heavenly Father.

    Likewise, after seven years, we true believers will leave our earthly father (Terra, again, as the elemental earth), and the former home of an earthly-begotten Son Jesus, to the place prepared for us by our chosen Father.

    These are solidly Jewish stories with solidly Christian meanings.

    So. Many. Layers!


  29. Dear Family--As Gary commented earlier, "Can we go Home yet???"

    Just finished what is hopefully a very encouraging article of how Christmas/Hanukkah/Purim all connect and seemingly point to an EPIPHANY coming this Winter followed by the Rapture:

    The Birth and the Star

  30. I apologize if anyone experienced issues accessing this article. It should be fixed now. Apparently in a strange fluke of nature, one of the comments wasn't playing nice with the code and was causing the page to crash.

    1. When the code doesn't like what you say, you just know your speculation went too far! lol


    2. Yeah, that was some glitch! It had me wondering what was digested that allowed the character limit to be exceeded? It was as though the "record was stuck!" Seriously dating myself.

    3. I'm glad that it was the coding, and not that you had all been raptured without me!

      Hello? Hello?! Is there anyone there?!!


  31. HAPPY HOLIDAYS, dear UNSEALED FAMILY! Just added an IMPORTANT UPDATE to my latest article:

    News of recent secret meetings bolsters my belief in these prophecies coming to pass very soon. In Pastor Paul’s Interview With MFATW Secret Meetings Russia Positioning By Force 12:15:22 Mike From Around The World (MFATW)—an insider frequently interviewed by Paul Begley—explains that in a secret meeting incoming Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was told he must accept the Two State Solution and agree to part the land back to the 1967 borders and also divide Jerusalem!

    “Negotiation time is over. Everything is by force on a global scale.”

    This dividing of Israel, and in particular Jerusalem, has been prophesied to be the cause of a great earthquake to divide the United States.

    The Jerusalem Post reported that Netanyahu is expected to announce his government this week. He currently has until December 21, Wednesday, to do this, although he may request another extension to Sunday, December 25.

    The Birth and the Star

    1. ...and here we are just months away from an annular solar eclipse that will divide the United States. (10/14/23) Then in the following Spring a total solar eclipse will again divide the United States, what we have generally called the Great American Solar Eclipse 2.0, which follows that of 9/21/17. The 2017 and 2024 eclipses will intersect in a region of Southern Illinois known as "Little Egypt".

      "X" marks the spot.

  32. According to my knowledge Christ died in 34 AD and after seven years (42 AD) the year 4000 since the creation of Adam would start. In your above article you deduct the seven years from the two days of 1000 years, but whether that is correct is the question. I don't believe so, but it can be correct, because the days will be shortened...! Mat. 24:22, Mark 13:20. Douwe Scheepsma Szn, The Netherlands

  33. Israel: Netanyahu secures votes to form coalition government, minutes before deadline

    Quoting, i24news.tv,

    Israel's prime minister-designate Benjamin Netanyahu on Wednesday night secured the final votes needed to form a government, minutes before his deadline to do so, and called Israeli President Isaac Herzog to finalize his rise to power.

    Netanyahu now has a week to swear in his government. The parliament plenum only meets on Mondays, Tuesdays, and Wednesdays, the confidence vote could only happen the following Monday. This means the government must be sworn in a week later, Monday, January 2.

    Anyone following Paul Dawson on the Kaduri Prophecy will find this interesting.

  34. One more thing regarding Benjamin Netanyahu. . .

    On March 4, 2020, Israel 365 News posted Netanyahu Wins Election After Rabbi Predicts He will be Israel’s Last Prime Minister before Messiah:

    . . . Rabbi Yitzchak Kaduri, one of the most influential Sephardic spiritual leaders of the century who passed away in 2006 at the age of 106, met with Netanyahu in 1997 during his first term as prime minister. Rabbi Kaduri whispered a long message into the politician’s ear. Rabbi Shmuel Shmueli, a follower of Rabbi Kaduri, revealed that Kaduri had always maintained that Netanyahu would serve a very long time and after his term in office, the Messiah would arrive. Before his death, Kaduri had said that he expected the Jewish Messiah, to arrive soon and that he had met him a year earlier. [end of article excerpt]

    When Kaduri prophesied to Netanyahu that he would serve a very long time and after his term in office the Messiah would arrive, I am wondering if the Rabbi (who many report came to believe on Jesus Christ the year before Kaduri’s death) could have been referring to the True Messiah Jesus Christ’s Second Coming to earth at the end of the Tribulation? Excerpt from

    1. Rabbi Kaduri believed the Messiah to be Jesus bar Joseph of Nazareth. Yeshua by name in his own handwriting on the note he left naming the Messiah.

      Anytime now.

  35. 12/25/2 BC

    Looking into the night skies over Jerusalem on the morning of December 25, 2 BC (12/25/1 BC by Sky Guide); the morning that Jupiter stopped over Bethlehem and the morning that that Magoi may have left Herod the Great to worship the Christ-child, the heavens declare some interesting sights,

    1. Jupiter in retrograde in the arms of Virgo (the woman)
    2. Saturn between the horns of Taurus
    3. Uranus in Pisces
    4. Mercury in Sagittarius
    5. Venus between Ophiuchus and Scorpius (near the galactic core)
    6. Mars in conjunction with Antares in Scorpius

    Another thing that is interesting is that on the evening of 12/26 there is a partial solar eclipse. It was not visible in Israel but it happened nonetheless. *IF* 12/25 is the day that the Magoi arrived bearing gifts followed by the evening that the angel told Joseph to take the child and Mary to Egypt? That is a very interesting picture in the heavens!

    But on 12/25 if you were standing in Jerusalem looking to the south in the pre-dawn skies around 5 AM you would see Jupiter high in the night sky in the arms of Virgo with the Southern Cross (Crux) hovering upright over the horizon in full view! All on the morning of December 25, 2 BC (no year zero).

    1 But you, Bethlehem,
    Ephratah, though you are
    little among the thousands
    of Judah, yet out of you shall
    come forth to me, he who is
    to be rule in Israel; and his
    origin is from ancient time,
    from days of old.

    (Micah 5:1 TNK)

    Yes, I am suggesting that the wise men arrived in Bethlehem on what we today call Christmas Day. Just six (6) months earlier the Bethlehem Star shown over Judea on June 17, 2 BC in the constellation Leo very near the king star Regulus. Was this the sign for the wise men to hit the road? I think it very well may have been.

    Merry Christmas to you and yours!


    1. PS, the Bible quote above is from the Tanakh (TNK). Chapter and verse varies from the TNK and Bible translations.

  36. Gary,

    Thank you as always for your work on this site and for this VERY encouraging article. Not sure if anyone else mentioned this yet, but one curious aspect of your 81-years-minus-a-day date of July 4, 2031 struck me:

    It's exactly 75 days prior to the start of Feast of Trumpets 2031 (September 17, 2031).

    So . . . 1260 days plus 75, perhaps? (or July 4, plus 30 days [1290], plus 45). Reminds one of Daniel 12:12: "O the blessedness of him who is waiting earnestly, and comes to the one thousand, three hundred, thirty-five days" (LSV)

    Feast of Trumpets 2031. A lovely time for the Second Coming of our Lord and His saints!

    1. Now THAT is pretty interesting. 2,520 days prior to 7/4/31 brings us to 8/9/24, just a few days before Av 9. Could be an interesting time for the covenant with many. Not sure.

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    Our Christmas card to you this year is made from an image I took using Sky Guide of the heavens over Bethlehem on the night of the Bethlehem Star (6/17/2 BC). This is the night that Jupiter and Venus appeared to merge as one and shown as the brightest star ever seen. This was perhaps the signal to the wise men from the east to set out in search of the new born Messiah.

    The artwork is sized suitable for a home screen wallpaper for iPhone and should fit Android as well. Please feel free to share it as you see fit!

    Click HERE to download our Christmas Card

    17 I see him, but not now;
    I behold him, but not near;
    a star shall come out of Jacob,
    and a scepter shall rise out
    of Israel; it shall crush the
    forehead of Moab and break
    down all the sons of Sheth.

    (Numbers 24:17 ESV)

    1 Now after Jesus was born
    in Bethlehem of Judea in the
    days of Herod the king, behold,
    wise men from the east came to

    2 saying, "Where is he who has
    been born king of the Jews?
    For we saw his star when it rose
    and have come to worship him."

    (Matthew 2:1-2 ESV)

    Grace and peace to you and yours for a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, 2023!!

    Pastor Rich & Family

    1. Merry Christmas PR and all my wonderful brothers and sisters here. Maranatha.

    2. Just a thought: MT 2:16 where Herod killed all baby boys 2 years and under....this edict would have been a little after 12/25/2BC (when the Wise men came to Herod/Jesus). Why 2 years? I think that helps support the argument for a 9/11/3BC birthdate timeframe which is 15 months earlier (also, 2 years before 12/25/2BC which is approximately when Jesus was conceived).

    3. Agreed, Jon. The annunciation would have been about the time of (if not during or at the beginning of) Hanukkah in 4 BC. That would have been the sixth month of Elizabeth's pregnancy with John the Baptist. (Luke 1:26)

      I know that some sources of Josephus claim that Herod the Great died in 4 BC yet other copies of the same publication state that Herod the Great died in 1 BC. A scribal or printing error or was something changed? I tend to wonder considering all that happened through Rabbi Akiva.


      This is a simplified breakdown from my studies of the timeline surrounding the conception and birth of Jesus.

      June 4 BC Temple duty of Zechariah
      June 4 BC conception of John the Baptist
      December 4 BC conception of Jesus
      March 3 BC birth of John the Baptist
      September 3 BC birth of Jesus
      June 2 BC Star of Bethlehem
      December 2 BC Wise men celebrate the first Christmas
      December 2 BC Exile to Egypt
      1 BC Death of Herod the Great

      This timeline provides for a Day of the Cross in the Spring of 32 AD which aligns with the Dead Sea Scrolls. (Nods to Ken Johnson for that!) Jesus would have been 33-1/2 years old at Calvary accordingly. Age 30 when He read from the scroll of Isiah in (Luke 4:16-23) and provided for a 3-1/2 year ministry.


  39. I have a slightly different time line for the births of John the Baptist and the Messiah.

    Now in the sixth month ( Elul, Aug/Sep ) the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city in Galilee, called Nazareth, to a virgin engaged to a man whose name was Joseph.

    "And behold, even your relative Elizabeth has also conceived a son in her old age; and she who was called barren is now in her sixth month ( Elul, Aug/Sep ).

    And Mary stayed with her about three months, and then returned to her home ( Kislev, Nov/Dec ).

    Mary has six more months to go from ( Kislev, Nov/Dec ).
    That would put her time to give birth at ( Sivan, May/Jun ).

    And it came about that when Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. And she cried out with a loud voice, and said, "Blessed among women are you, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! "And how has it happened to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? "For behold, when the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby leaped in my womb for joy.

    1. As a matter of fact, that timeline is where I originally started and it offers the possibility that Jesus was born under the Bethlehem Star in June 2 BC but after further consideration to the text I came to the sixth month being the six month of Elizabeth's pregnancy.

    2. Just got around to reading this post. It caused me to look into what the 6th month was referring to.

      Interesting that most of the commentaries agree with PR:

      "Gabriel’s work was not finished with the announcement to Zacharias in the temple. In the sixth month of Elizabeth’s pregnancy, he came to a village in Galilee." https://www.blueletterbible.org/comm/guzik_david/study-guide/luke/luke-1.cfm?a=974026

      So what Gregorian month(s) would that be?

    3. Lyn Melvin

      That would be (Elul, Aug/Sep) the 6th month.

  40. I appreciate the postings by others in this thread. Learning all the time. Building on insights/posts.

    Regarding the timing of John / Jeus birth, some thoughts:
    * Question: how does it match up with signs in the heavens
    * Luke 1:24-26 (expand reading a little to help with context)
    * NASB version provided more specific details on Luke 1:24-26 (or did it take liberty to make a conclusion...)


    1. typo (arrgghh) meant "Jesus" birth...


      Jupiter had a triple conjunction with Regulus in Leo (the animal symbol of Judah) tracing out what could be considered a sceptre in the hand of Leo or a ruler's staff at the king star. (Seen when a tail is drawn tracking the back and forth retrograde motion of Jupiter about Regulus in astronomical software). To quote Rick Larson, "King, king, king?"

      10 The scepter shall not depart
      from Judah, nor the ruler's staff
      from between his feet, until tribute
      comes to him; and to him shall be
      the obedience of the peoples.

      (Genesis 49:10 ESV)

      Following behind Jupiter in Virgo was Venus followed by Mercury and the Sun with the New Moon at Spica. All of them arrayed opposite of Hydra with Jupiter "standing" above the head of the serpent hydra. Venus is in the arms of Virgo along with Mercury; the Sun by her side. How appropriate.

      Spica, meaning "ear of wheat", has some interesting fun facts. Quoting, Wikipedia,

      Spica is the brightest object in the constellation of Virgo and one of the 20 brightest stars in the night sky. It has the Bayer designation α Virginis, which is Latinised to Alpha Virginis and abbreviated Alpha Vir or α Vir. Analysis of its parallax shows that it is located 250±10 light-years from the Sun.[3] It is a spectroscopic binary star and rotating ellipsoidal variable; a system whose two stars are so close together they are egg-shaped rather than spherical, and can only be separated by their spectra. The primary is a blue giant and a variable star of the Beta Cephei type.

      Powerful symbols surrounding this day if for the birth of our Lord. King planet with the king star. Child of the woman, the bright morning star, (Revelation 12:1) who is clothed with the Sun and the Moon at her feet. Yom Teruah. Rosh Hashanna.

      I prefer to use Sky Guide on my iPhone for astronomical sightings and take screen shots using the same. A great tool for stellar studies!

      Fast forward a couple of years to December 25, 1 BC and Jupiter would return to the woman this time in her arms just above Spica immediately above the constellation Crux, the Southern Cross -- all of which was visible rising over the Judean horizon looking toward Bethlehem from Jerusalem early on that candidate first Christmas morning. The cross (Crux) was standing on the horizon at Bethlehem.

      Poetry in the stars. They declare His glory! (Psalm 19:1-6)


    3. (LUKE 1:26)

      The subject in the preceding verses (Luke 1:24-25) is the pregnancy of Elizabeth, rendered here from the Greek,



      Verse 26 continues the thought...


      ...which establishes the time at which Gabriel visited Mary. The logic then follows that if Jesus was born at the advent of the Bethlehem Star then he would have been conceived at Yom Teruah (Elul/Tishrei) or the cusp of the sixth and seventh month of the Pharisee calendar. But given that the subject of the preceding verses is how far along Elizabeth was in term with John? Then the sixth month of her pregnancy is when Gabriel visited Mary. This aligns with a Nativity at Yom Teruah of the year 3 BC. (Note star positions in post immediately above).

      Earlier research suggested that Zechariah served in the Temple in June 4 BC. My original notes on that topic were lost on a failed HDD so pending reconstruction. Going by memory here. So when working backwards from 9/11/3 BC the visitation of Gabriel would have been in time for Hanukkah in 4 BC. The Feast of Dedication.

      I have not tried to model that holiday on the calendar but (if to go by Torahcalendar) it is suggested that Jupiter would have been in retrograde motion in Cancer, Saturn in Taurus, Uranus in Pisces, Venus in Aquarius, Sun and Mercury in Sagittarius, waning crescent Moon in conjunction with Antares in Scorpius and Mars on the middle altar of Libra. No planets were in Virgo. She was without and alone to herself.

    4. Thinking of the above...Jupiter in the arms of Virgo followed by Mercury with the woman clothed in the Sun...at 7:26 PM local time in Jerusalem; Venus is high in the arms of the woman as though being held. Mercury goes before the Sun as though a messenger (angel) declaring the bright morning star that is seed of the woman. Held in her arms with the "ear of wheat".

      This brings to mind,

      24 Truly, truly, I say to you,
      unless a grain of wheat falls
      into the earth and dies, it
      remains alone; but if it dies,
      it bears much fruit.

      RED LETTERS (John 12:24 ESV)

      The words of Luke also come to mind concerning the angels and the shepherds,

      9 And an angel of the Lord appeared
      to them, and the glory of the Lord
      shone around them, and they were
      filled with great fear.

      10 And the angel said to them,
      "Fear not, for behold, I bring
      you news of great joy that will
      be for all the people.

      11 For unto you is born this day
      in the city of David a Savior,
      who is Christ the Lord."

      (Luke 2:9-11 ESV)

      All of this study and research point to possibilities. Possibilities surrounding the certainty that is Christ the Lord. Knowing Him and trusting in Him and Him alone, in Christ alone, is all that really matters. Sharing that knowledge is our privilege and duty. It is our calling and our command. (Matthew 28:18-20)

      Keep the Faith!

  41. At https://eschatologytoday.blogspot.com/2022/12/global-sitrep-a1-23-zionist-israel.html "Global SITREP A1-23: Zionist Israel", see also https://eschatologytoday.blogspot.com/2022/12/global-sitrep-d10-22-emergent-religious.html "Global SITREP D10-22: The Emergent Religious Israel".

  42. LIVEBLOG: Benjamin Netanyahu returns to power as Israel swears in new government

    Quoting, i24news.tv,

    "Israel's longest-serving leader, Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu, returns to power with his far-right and ultra-Orthodox coalition government being sworn in on Thursday, amid backlash.

    The day before, the Jewish state's incoming prime minister published the guiding principles and general program of his new coalition, which he presented to the parliament (Knesset) for a confidence vote, in which a majority of coalition members voted in favor, officially swearing in Netanyahu's government - Israel's 37th."

    1. Thanks for that Brother! Above I shared:

      Interesting that most of the commentaries agree with PR regarding Gabriel’s visit in the 6th month:

      "Gabriel’s work was not finished with the announcement to Zacharias in the temple. In the sixth month of Elizabeth’s pregnancy, he came to a village in Galilee." https://www.blueletterbible.org/comm/guzik_david/study-guide/luke/luke-1.cfm?a=974026

      So what Gregorian month(s) would that be? Nov/Dec?

    2. Yes, November/December or about the time of Hanukkah. Makes sense given the dedication of the temple (body) of the Lord that would grow in the womb of Mary. Even more reason why we understand that life begins at conception. Jesus of Nazareth, fully human and fully God. Son of man. Son of David and Son of God.

    3. Lyn Melvin

      Elizabeth is already in her 6th month of pregnancy at the time Gabriel’s visit in the 6th month (Elul, Aug/Sep) to Mary.

      Name Gregorian calendar Jewish Holidays

      7. Tishrei September – October Rosh Hashana, Yom Kippur, Sukkot
      8. Heshvan October – November
      9. Kislev November – December Hanukah
      10. Tevet December – January Tevet 10 Fast
      11. Shvat January – February Tu Bishvat
      12/13. Adar Feb- March Purim, Esther Fast
      1. Nissan March – April Passover
      2. Iyar April – May Pessah Sheni, Lag Ba’omer
      3. Sivan May – June Shavu’ot
      4. Tamuz June – July Tamuz 17 (Fast day)
      5. Av July – August Av 9 (Fast day)
      6. Elul August – September High Holy Days

    4. I believe the Catholic Church commemorates Zechariah's temple duty as happening at Yom Kippur.

    5. Revisiting this topic I am reminded of the clue that Luke gives us,

      8 Now while he was serving
      as priest before God when his
      division was on duty

      (Luke 1:8 ESV)

      The Greek makes is even clearer,


      ...meaning that Abijah was serving in the order of succession with that course being the eighth course among the 24 courses of priests. This is a clue. The reason being is that during Pesach, Sukkot and Shavuot all the priests would be on duty to serve -- so we know this was not the time of Zechariah's service.

      Knowing that all the courses would be serving at Hag HaMatzah the remaining courses to get to Abijah do suggest a mid-June time of service. Remember, each served for one week Sabbath to Sabbath rotating in order through the year. That mid-June service and return home to Elizabeth would equate to Jesus being born in time for Yom Teruah (9/11/3 BC).

      Perhaps a calendar model is in order to explore this further?

      Again, this is about exploring the possibilities as we will not know the exact timing this side of heaven. According to Ken Johnson the DSS offer limited information in this area.


    Today the 37th Israeli government was sworn in. (Sorry Paul, we're still here as of the writing of this note). Earlier this year the day count from the Spring Day of Remembrance (New Year's Day) on the Essene (Zadok) calendar to the advent of the bright morning Bethlehem Star was 37 days. (Thirty-seven days is equal to 888-hours which is the number of the Name of Jesus "Ιησούς" in Greek!) Thirty-seven days after that was Shavuot on the same calendar. Thirty-seven is a watermark number in Scripture for those who are into the mathematics of Torah and original Bible languages. Those day counts sure seemed to point to a Shavuot harpazo in 2022.

    But it didn't happen that way.

    About a month ago I woke to this verse in my head,

    10 The LORD said,

    "I will surely return to you about
    this time next year, and Sarah
    your wife shall have a son."

    And Sarah was listening at the
    tent door behind him.

    (Genesis 8:10 ESV)

    What if the sign that seem so strong was not a sign of the Day but of a sign of the coming Day? One year in the future?

    Isn't Abraham the father of the nations? Isn't Sarah therefore the mother of the nations? As numerous as, "the stars of heaven and as the sand on the seashore?" (Genesis 22:17 ESV) This was the promise given by the LORD to Abraham for not withholding his son as an offering. The LORD offered a ram instead in place of Isaac.

    Isaac was first born of the nations that would produce Israel. We share this heritage by faith as first fruits of Christ. Also saved by a substituting sacrifice.

    All the more reason why the words of the LORD come to mind regarding this time next year. Will the man-child of (Revelation 12) come forth at Pentecost in the coming year? Time will tell. But the timing is right and the seasons seem to be changing.

    Thirty-seven may be a sign of our soon departure.

    Happy New Year from my family to you and yours,


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    2. OK, Let's try this again. Pastor Rich, Blessings As I understand it, the government of Israel is yet to be constructed. 1st the coalition is agreed upon & signed by all parties; 2nd all relevant parties are sworn in, so that this is already done when Knesset votes upon the law which CREATES the next government of Israel; 3rd, a LAW IS PASSED which creates the new government. THAT happens 01/02/23. Maranatha!

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    4. Hi Jimboni!

      Happy New Year! I am definitely NOT an expert on the Israeli government but the statement is lifted directly from the Knesset website. Here is a from the linked page (above),

      Quoting, Knesset.gov.il,

      "The 37th Government of the State of Israel was sworn in Thursday during a festive sitting of the Knesset Plenum, which was held in the presence of President of the State Isaac Herzog and Supreme Court President Justice Esther Hayut. In the plenary sitting, the Government's policy guidelines were presented by the head of the new Government, MK Benjamin Netanyahu (Likud), along with the composition of the Government and the distribution of ministerial portfolios. This was followed by an address by MK Yair Lapid (Yesh Atid), as the leader of the largest parliamentary group that is not part of the new Government."

      Perhaps worthy of more digging on their procedural proceedings.

    5. BBC is clearly reporting today that the new government in Israel is in place. Looks like it is a done deal,

      Netanyahu's hard-line new government takes office in Israel

  44. Correction: The Scriptural citation above should be for (Genesis 18:10). To err is human -- something I excel at. Proof-readers untie!

  45. Pastor Rich

    Luke 1:1-4 reminds us that we don't need commentaries from other sources to explain what he is telling Theophilus.

    Jesus was not born 9/11/3 BC. Common sense tells you that.

    Luke spells it out very clearly concerning the births of both, John the baptist and Jesus the Messiah.

    1. I would disagree with that assumption.

      I firmly believe that Jesus was born on 9/11 of 3 BC. That's what common sense is telling me.

      (And I also wonder if the globalists had a desecration in mind when they kicked off their end-times agenda by collapsing the 3 World Trade Center buildings on that same anniversary, which began the downfall of both the American State and the Middle Eastern bloc. But that is purely an exercise in rumination)

      Happy New Year, everyone! Let's hope its days are shortened for our sake!


    2. Jeremy

      It's not an assumption, it's the truth!

      But I am reminded by Pauls words to Timothy in 2 Timothy 4:2-4.

    3. It's certainly your belief. But not necessarily the truth.


    4. Jeremy

      Then you show me, or rather Luke where he is wrong!

    5. Hi Gregg,

      According to my earthly father common sense says there is no God and that all of us of faith are weak and in need of a crutch. (His words). I'm interested in honest research and prayerful study and quiet time exploring these questions. Ken Johnson will tell you that he believe Jesus was born at Sukkot in 3 BC. I am in the Yom Teruah 3 BC camp and at one time was in the June 2 BC camp as suggested by Rick Larson. My comments here are based on further research into Zechariah and how his term of service lined up with the conception of John and Jesus given in Luke.

      So, yes, Luke gives us certain keys to understanding the timing of Jesus' birth. There is room for interpretation which you are most welcome to explore and adhere to. By all means, please do! I have exceeded to that in this discussion. But we should not be dogmatic about those dates. We simply don't know for absolute sure nor will we this side of heaven.

      As I said earlier. We explore the possibilities of the life and times of Jesus while knowing the certainty of Christ. In the end that's all that matters.

  46. Pastor Rich

    I am not dogmatic about anything.
    Luke gives us everything we or I need to know, about the birth of both Jesus and John.

    You can explore all the conception’s of John and Jesus and interpretation of dates, 2,3,4 BC’s all you want. I think its an unnecessary distraction from the true narrative.

    Elizabeth’s greeting is paramount in all of this. Elizabeth is filled with the Holy spirit and so is John.
    And so is Mary’s hasty visit to Elizabeth. Mary is already with child before she gets to Elizabeth.

    You can also explore the life and times of Jesus buy reading all four gospels at the same time.

    Zechariah is dumbfounded at the alter of incense when Gabriel show’s up. He doesn’t know what to think about what he is being told and he does not know who it is until he asks “How shall I know this for certain”.

    I mean if I am Zechariah I would be asking why now, I prayed that a few decades ago and your telling me this now. Look at me I am an old man a senior so is my wife!

    1. Gregg,

      If I understand you right and you consider the study of dates and interpretations a distraction then why be here? That's what we do at UNSEALED. You for one evangelize a specific interpretation of the Ascension that although considered by some as true is not clearly demonstrated in Scripture. Is that not also a distraction from the truth that Jesus did ascend back to the Father and that He sits today at the right-hand of God?

      I'm not trying to pick a fight. But as watchmen we're given to dig and dig and dig. For me it is a major part of my devotional and quiet time with the LORD. I share what I find and teach it to those who want to know more all in the understanding that my knowledge has very strict limits. I therefore engage with others in the field and pray constantly encouraging them to do the same. We don't have to agree on the non-essentials but the essentials are that we abide in Christ alone. We also are called to not neglect gathering in fellowship. It appears you fulfill both of those points so all that is left is what we do here at UNSEALED.

      We look for the return of our Lord and Saviour Christ Jesus because that's what the Bible tells us to do. Therefore we take seriously,

      2 It is the glory of God to
      conceal things, but the
      glory of kings is to search
      things out.

      (Proverbs 25:2 ESV)

    2. Thank you P. Rick for sharing what you discover. I may not always be able to follow your star chart stuff, or always agree with your conclusions, but i do appreciate your work!

    3. Ack! Typo! Sorry, I meant P. Rich.

      I'll untie with you in the proof-readers group.

    4. Pastor Rich

      “If I understand you right and you consider the study of dates and interpretations a distraction then why be here?” Quite simply because you need help in looking in the right direction.

      “That's what we do at UNSEALED.” No thats what you do at “UNSEALED”.

      “You for one evangelize a specific interpretation of the Ascension that although considered by some as true is not clearly demonstrated in Scripture.” It is clearly demonstrated in Scripture, you just don’t see it.

      “Is that not also a distraction from the truth that Jesus did ascend back to the Father and that He sits today at the right-hand of God?”

      No, what I said was, “You can explore all the conception’s of John and Jesus and interpretation of dates, 2,3,4 BC’s all you want. I think its an unnecessary distraction from the true narrative.

      “I’m not trying to pick a fight.” Really, I think you are trying to do much more than that!

      Daniel s word being unsealed means we are in the immediate time frame when the Rapture is scheduled to occur. So, the message about the Rapture has to be there, or there is no such thing, because God would not have forgotten to tell the Church about the end of their deal. He’s telling the Jews about theirs isn’t he?

  47. Well, moving onto the next big date watch my favorite by the way, "First Fruits".

    The restraining force (from 2 Thessalonians) being taken out of the way begins with the dead in Christ rising in Jerusalem on the Jewish feast of First Fruits. Then, 40 days later, the “departure” of that “restraining force” will open the flood gates and unleash the pent up events of Daniel’s seventieth week that will end in the return of Jesus to complete the covenant with the Jews and begin His one thousand year rule on the earth.

    The actions of men will determine which year those dead in Christ will rise and the departure occurs.

    Once those events take place, the final days of the Old Covenant will begin. There will be unprecedented peace and prosperity in the Middle East which will last for three and a half years. Then, suddenly, war will rage; and within another three and a half years, the Middle East as we know it today will be destroyed. Hence the destruction of the kingdoms depicted in King Nebuchadnezzar's image will be fulfilled.

    1. @Gregg:
      "Once those events take place, the final days of the Old Covenant will begin. There will be unprecedented peace and prosperity in the Middle East which will last for three and a half years. Then, suddenly, war will rage; and within another three and a half years, the Middle East as we know it today will be destroyed. Hence the destruction of the kingdoms depicted in King Nebuchadnezzar's image will be fulfilled"

      The unprecedented peace and prosperity in the Middle East will be the result of the covenant with the many (Daniel 9:27) which the antichrist will have confirmed. It will be also the time when Israel is dwelling in peace and security with unwalled villages (Ezekiel 38:11) due to this covenant before Gog-Mago will try to invade Israel. But during the first 3,5 years of the Tribulation Period the rest of the world will suffer from war, famine and deadly diseases during the four Horsemen judgments of Revelation 6.

    2. Moin

      I like to refer to him (antichrist) as the "peacemaker" cause thats who he is, and there is no one on the stage of current history except the current ruling Hashemite King, Abdullah II of Jordan. And when you take a closer look at him and what he is speaking and doing, you will recognize who he is.

      He doesn't do the other things the antichrist does till later.

      My experience with reading prophecy and history is that sometimes prophecy takes time to develop. Makes little to no difference to us as we won't be here for that.

      Take for example the destruction of the temple that Jesus tells them about "not one stone upon another, your house is left to desolate ". Well that doesn't happen till what 70 AD, right?

      Just Rev 6:2 says a lot, "And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

      He does all of that with the peace, he conquers with a deceiving tongue and a deceitful way.And he has all the nations on earth with him.
      The MOU memorandum of understanding with Jordan, especially with the USA.
      It makes since to, cause Jordan is the place where the woman Israel flees to, so that place needs to modernized to sustain the women for 3 1/2 years till Jesus gets there.

      And now with Israel's new government is making everyone a little nervous even the King.

      To me the new's and information with what's going on simultaneously on earth and the middle east seems to be crescendoing to a nexus point or intersection.

      Does anyone else feel that way?

    3. I agree that current events seem to be coming to a crescendo. Especially with the newly sworn in government of Israel. Prophecy in the making.

  48. Replies
    1. Thank you for a second concise link in these comments, PR. I've been talking for a long while to an acquaintance who leans heavily into the alien phenomenon, and your link really helped convey succinctly what I've been telling him over the last year or so. Most of the time, I've found LA Marzulli's stuff to be more scattershot, but that short video was more pointed. I hope it'll leave an impression!

      Gregg, I would also have to agree with you on the crescendo that's building now. And it's become strong enough that I'm starting to gain momentum convincing an anti-preTrib friend of mine. In a world full of big happenings, he's finally starting to see that during the worst 7 years of human history upcoming, a disappearing cloud of believers is really not the most impossible event imaginable.

      When Abraham was told to sacrifice his much-loved son, God gave him a last-minute escape from that action and those results. Simultaneously, God showed us a picture of Himself making that same exact sacrifice, of His Son, and of His own choice . . . out of love. If that isn't evidence of His desire to spare us from what's coming, then I don't know what is.


    2. I'm glad it was helpful Jeremy. Hopefully the LORD will speak through that message to your friend. I will be praying for your friend and witness to him.


    Over at Rev12daily we've been discussing the possibility of a 6th Seal Rapture.

    I went over research I had done years ago and for what it is worth have shared what I found. I am NOT fully convinced of a 6th Seal Rapture HOWEVER that is just where I am at in my learning curve.

    So my new article presents evidence on both sides of this issue. AND also has additional evidence that 5783 is looking most promising for our HOME GOING! (MANY THANKS✨ to Jeova and Lu sharing Tramm's new article and to Sherrill for the Abraham article BOTH of which I used in my article!)
    I am looking forward to your thoughts on this one for sure:

    Are the 7 Seals Part of the Tribulation?

    1. Hi Lyn,

      The sixth seal is something I've been looking at closely lately as well. A while back I started exploring the harpazo being after the horsemen and the sixth seal may provide a fit. (Not a mid-trib harpazo). The stumbling block is then the details of the elders and how/who we understand them to be at the time of the opening of the first seals. This is what I'm digging on now...

      Continuing to read your post with great interest!

    2. Quoting you, Lyn,

      "What is interesting is that, whether one observes the standard fall reckoning of Zuckermann, or Wacholder’s version reckoned from Nisan, the pertinent harvest season is the same: spring–summer 2023. . ."

      This is also very interesting as it includes Shavuot, 2023 on the Essene calendar which is one year after the New Year's Day/Bethlehem Star/Shavuot 37-day (888-hour) cycle found in 2022 of the same calendar.

      Essene New Year's Day 2022 + 888-hours = Bethlehem Star + 888-hours = Essene Shavuot 2022

      Add to that the timing provided by (Genesis 18:10) and the story of Isaac; Adam and your comment above provide a consistent fit with my current study model. All different perspectives looking at the same subject and fitting like a glove.

      Worthy of more digging...

    3. Thank you so much for your input, dear Brother! Yes, the 24 Elders is a definite stumbling block in a 6th Seal Rapture scenario. Some teach that these elders come from the First Fruit Resurrection of the saints after Christ's death and resurrection:

      The tombs also were opened. And many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised, and coming out of the tombs after his resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many. (Matt. 27:52–53)

      Your Essene-related calculations are interesting and I had forgotten about Genesis 18:10.

      Hmmmmmm. I am looking forward to what more you dig up! ✨⛏️

  50. A little off topic......You have probably never heard this song....but I think your heart will be touched....this is for my brothers and sisters at this site that have been so encouraging to me personally.....thank you....

    A song by Kathy Laird Bellavia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwCXUTErgKY
    It's the second song in this youtube video starting at the 3:16 (think John 3:16) minute mark to the 6:24 mark.

    In Your Shelter

    In this time of trouble, I know You will hide me
    Until the storms pass by, Until the winds subside,
    I'll make my refuge in Your shelter.

    Lord, You are faithful, You are unchanging,
    So I will trust, In Your unfailing love,
    I know there is healing in Your shelter.

    I'll hide in the shadow of Your wings, I'll rest in the secret place of Your love,
    Where I know i'm secure, and you hold me near
    I long to hear Your loving voice, In Your shelter.

    In ths time of trouble, I know You will hide me
    Till the storms pass by, Until the winds subside,
    I'll make my refuge in Your shelter.

    I'll hide in the shadow of Your wings, I'll rest in the secret place of Your love,
    Where I know I'm secure, And You hold me near
    I long to hear Your loving voice

    In Your shelter, In Your shelter, In Your shelter.


    Many years ago in Bolivia on a short mission trip I shared a bedroom with a 75 year old elderly pastor named Pastor Laird who had ministered for decades in Africa with his wife and family. There was one small bed so I slept on the floor. In the morning I awoke to the sound of knees hitting the floor. He was having his quiet time with the Lord and had his Bible opened on the bed. Sometimes we learn more by what we caught than what we're taught.

    Later, I just happened to go to a friends house when he was recording the above song by the lady who was related to the pastor I mentioned above. Guidance by Godly parents, friends, pastors can lead to Godly songs springing from our heart.

    Those "songs" we learn from others can take on many different shapes and may not always be musical.....it may be the song that sounds like knees hitting the bedroom floor encouraging us in our own quiet time, or it may be a million other inspiring moments that helps us sing our life song to reflect how our creator is molding us for His good will.

    God loves each of us--- always....even in the storms of life. And He delights in the "music" we're making as we follow Him.......still listening to that still small voice.........Jon

  51. Have you seen this? Wow!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvkQ70aEEhs

    1. That is a WOW!!! Adam provides two potentially key perspectives on the timeline that when combined with my current model fit like a glove!


    3 As he sat on the Mount of Olives,
    the disciples came to him privately,
    saying, "Tell us, when will these
    things be, and what will be the sign
    of your coming and of the end of
    the age?"

    4 And Jesus answered them, "See
    that no one leads you astray."

    [ This sets the contextual stage for what is next ]

    5 "For many will come in my name,
    saying, 'I am the Christ,' and they
    will lead many astray.

    [ Rider on the white horse (Antichrist) ]

    6 And you will hear of wars and
    rumors of wars. See that you are
    not alarmed, for this must take
    place, but the end is not yet.

    [ Red horse rider (War) ]

    7 For nation will rise against
    nation, and kingdom against
    kingdom, and there will be
    famines and earthquakes in
    various places.

    [ Black horse rider (Famine/Poverty) ]

    8 All these are but the beginning of
    the birth pains.

    [ Beginning not the actual birth itself ]

    9 Then they will deliver you up to
    tribulation and put you to death, and
    you will be hated by all nations for
    my name's sake.

    [ Pale horse rider (Death & Hades) ]

    (Matthew 24:3-9 ESV)

    This is verbatim (Revelation 6:1-8) in the same order. White horse, red horse, black horse and pale horse. Could they be a precursor to a sixth seal harpazo? We need to reconcile *who* the elders are and how they come to be where they are when they are. (At the opening of the scroll).

    To that end what do we know so far?

    2 At once I was in the Spirit, and
    behold, a throne stood in heaven,
    with one seated on the throne.

    (Revelation 4:2 ESV)

    John was taken in the Spirit by the Spirit. Was John physically taken into the throne room? Was he Spiritually taken? That is a long standing discussion point. Let's continue assuming John was taken in the Spirit. John continues,

    4 Around the throne were
    twenty-four thrones, and seated
    on the thrones were twenty-four
    elders, clothed in white garments,
    with golden crowns on their

    (Revelation 4:4 ESV)

    What is the nature of these elders? We know they are human,

    9 And they sang a new song, saying,
    "Worthy are you to take the scroll
    and to open its seals, for you were
    slain, and by your blood you ransomed
    people for God from every tribe and
    language and people and nation,

    10 and you have made them a
    kingdom and priests to our God,
    and they shall reign on the earth."

    (Revelation 4:9-10 ESV)

    The elders are redeemed humans. The elders are a kingdom and priests to God. Note it doesn't say they *will* be a kingdom of priests; they *are* a kingdom and priests that *shall* reign on the earth. That will come after the Great Tribulation at the beginning of the Kingdom Era and the Millennial Reign of Christ.

    Note the elders already have their crowns. (Thinking rewards). They are there present when Jesus opens the first seal. So if the harpazo happens with the sixth seal then how did they get there? Are they the dead in Christ in the Spirit before God? John is there in the Spirit are they too? They certainly can, and do, interact. Have they already received their rewards?

    Timing, timing, timing in the realm where there is no time.

    If the elders John met are made up of those who sleep in Christ, pre-harpazo, then they would be in Spirit form before the LORD just as John may have been on his heavenly visit. The second order of the resurrection, we call it the Rapture, would create for them physical bodies in the likeness of Jesus. Glorified. Before that? The dead in Christ are in Spirit form. The same is true for the Righteous Saints of old. The OT saints. They will makeup the third order of the resurrection at the end. (Daniel 12:13), (1 Corinthians 15:22-26)

    Once Death and Hades are cast into the lake of fire it's GAME OVER!!

    Some musings of a fellow traveler as he begins to enjoy some sorely needed time off!

    Happy New Year,


    1. I've heard before about the Olivet Discourse and the parallels with the first several seals. However, I don't think it can be determined if this is pre or post Rapture just in that section if scripture alone. For example, are those who will be persecuted the Church, the Trib saints, the Jewish people or just "everyone"? But the Great Multitude of Revelation has to be post Rapture, since isn't the Judgement for Believers (Judgement Seat of Christ) post Rapture, where the crowns are handed out?

    2. Great points, Sherrill777!

      The whole of Scripture is what is needed without a doubt. These points about the horsemen were as pin-points (parallels) that stand-out.

      In the fifth seal we see, "under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne." (Revelation 6:9 ESV) Who then are these slain? They cry out, "'O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?'" (Each of them were given white robes and told to wait "until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete"). This is in the fifth seal.

      The sixth seal contains the great and terrible day that the kings and great ones of the earth hide themselves from the "wrath of the Lamb". In the sixth seal we also see the 144,000 of Israel sealed AND the great multitude from every nation, "standing before the throne and before the Lamb, [also] clothed in white robes". Of this group the angel in (Revelation 7:13) asks John,

      "Who are these, clothed in white
      robes, and from where have they

      John answers,

      14 I said to him, "Sir you know."
      And he said to me, "These are the
      ones coming out of the great
      tribulation. They have washed
      their robes and made them white
      in the blood of the Lamb."

      (Revelation 7:14 ESV)

      So the group waiting under the altar in (Revelation 6:9) and those standing before the throne in (Revelation 7:14) appear to be two different groups. What makes them different? The sixth seal. If the sixth seal contains the harpazo, the second order of the resurrection then those found in the fifth seal are Church age saints in the Spirit in the presence of God.

      As for the Tribulation Saints they will have One thing in common. Jesus. Therefore they will come from all nations, tribes and tongues. It doesn't matter if their Messianic Jews, Chinese or Iranian Christians. Christ is the key as we all know.

    3. Great points (Continued)

      So, agreed. The Great Multitude of Revelation has to be post Rapture. That leaves us the question of when is the Bema Seat Judgment when crowns are handed out? (This may help us understand the 24 elders seen at opening of the first seal). Is that post harpazo or pre and post harpazo...an ongoing event concerning the body of Christ? This question has come up in the course of conversation at church lately. *When* does the Bema Seat Judgment occur?

      The Spirit teaches us through Paul,

      10 For we must all appear before
      the judgment seat of Christ, so
      that each one may receive what is
      due for what he has done in the
      body, whether good or evil.

      (2 Corinthians 5:10 ESV)


      10 Why do you pass judgment
      on your brother? Or you, why do
      you despise your brother? For
      we will all stand before the
      judgment seat of God;

      (Romans 14:10 ESV)

      Another hint at *when* may be found in the Parable of the Talents. When is it that judgment was passed by the property owner? It was on his return from a journey,

      19 Now after a long time the
      master of those servants came
      and settled accounts with them.

      (Matthew 25:19 ESV)

      Luke records the parable this way,

      15 When he returned, having
      received the kingdom, he ordered
      these servants to whom he had
      given the money to be called to
      him, that he might know what
      they had gained by doing business.

      (Luke 19:15 ESV)

      It is notable that each of the servants come before the master individually in his time. Not conclusive but worthy of greater study! I have personally thought that judgment seat of Christ would occur post-harpazo, post-wedding supper of the Lamb but have not yet dedicated study time to the topic. (This hinged on the concept that the elders had already been awarded their crowns and that the harpazo occurs BEFORE the first seal is broken). If to ask the question, "Does the sixth seal of the Revelation contain the Resurrection/Rapture?" may require digging into the question of when is the Bema Seat judgment. When are the crowns handed out that we see the elders wearing BEFORE the first seal is broken?

      If our crowns are given as we come before the Lord Jesus in order that we pass from this place? (On our temporal death). The crowned elders can make sense if for a sixth seal harpazo. But it's getting harder not to see the sixth seal as containing the Rapture.

      Again, I will be pouring more effort into this study point.


      15 When he returned, having
      received the kingdom, he ordered
      these servants to whom he had
      given the money to be called to
      him, that he might know what
      they had gained by doing

      (Luke 19:15 ESV)

      This may be a key indicator of the timing of the Judgment Seat of Christ or Bema Judgment. After Jesus receives the kingdom. A topic that should be approached with care as this is a past and future event. I am coming to wonder if the elders need to be viewed outside of our temporal constraints as a future event to us yet part of all things already past in the sight of heaven.

      Forgive me for thinking out loud. These are not the topics typically discussed on Sunday mornings but important questions nonetheless...


    5. Adding one more pin-point to this topic...

      25 For whoever would save his
      life will lose it, but whoever loses
      his life for my sake will find it.
      For what will it profit a man if he
      gains the whole world and forfeits
      his soul? Or what shall a man
      give in return for his soul?

      27 For the Son of Man is going
      to come with his angels in the glory
      of his Father, and then he will
      repay each person according to
      what he has done.

      28 Truly, I say to you, there are
      some standing here who will not
      taste death until they see the
      Son of Man coming in his kingdom.

      RED LETTERS (Matthew 16:25-28 ESV)

      Keywords, "the Son of Man coming in his kingdom", "the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father" and "he will repay each person according to what he has done."

      These passages from these verses certainly discount our individual appearance at our death before the Lord. The coming of the Son of Man with his angels can be either at the harpazo or at His second coming. The time of the Bema Judgment is often seen as being after His second coming and after the wedding supper of the Lamb. Both of these happen (chronologically) after the seals are opened for which the 24 elders are present.

      This pin-point is not to throw water on the belief that the 24 elders are the glorified Church. The purpose of this post is to provide a scriptural reference to the timing of the Bema Judgment. It clearly seems to be after the return of the Lord as shared by Jesus through Luke in the Parable of the Ten Minas. (Luke 19:11-27)

      We know the 24 elders are not angels and are human. If all that John saw was the sum total of all things coming to pass in a realm where all things have already come to pass then the 24 can be any of Old Testament saints and New Testament saints, heads of the 12 tribes and the 12 apostles perhaps as some believe or wholly representative of the body of Christ His Church. That is if in the sight of heaven all things had already come to pass as of John's visitation where past, present and future exist as one.

      Some Scriptural pin-points to dig are include,

      27 Then Peter said in replay,
      "See, we have left everything
      and followed you. What then
      will we have?

      28 Jesus said to them, "Truly,
      I say to you, in the new world,
      when the Son of Man will sit
      on his glorious throne, you
      who have followed me will
      also sit on twelve thrones,
      judging the twelve tribes of

      (Matthew 19:28 ESV)

      1 When one of you has a
      grievance against another,
      does he dare go to law before
      the unrighteous instead of the

      2 Or do you not know that the
      saints will judge the world? And
      if the world is to be judged by
      you, are you incompetent to try
      trivial cases?

      3 Do you not know that we are
      to judge angels?

      (1 Corinthians 6:1-3 ESV)

      Not looking to offer answers today -- instead offering potential points of study for anyone wanting to dig more.

      Happy hunting!


  53. Typo: The citation for (Revelation 4:9-10 ESV) should be (Revelation 5:9-10). Sorry for the slip of the finger. Proof-readers untie!

  54. All of this brings to mind the physical nature of angels and angelic beings. Their ability to traverse dimensional space (heaven to earth and back) and appear in human form. Spirits do not do this; take physical form. They may inhabit a physical form (nods to LA Marzulli) as he suggests demons do. (We call them alien greys).

    More fodder for the thought machine...and one of the "whys" of the harpazo. That we may physically inhabit and reign on Earth in the Kingdom Era?


    1. Brother Rich, just caught up on your posts here below where you Replied to my post. I too do a great deal of THINKING OUT LOUD in my blog posts, but I appreciate it when Brethren do this (even if they may not appreciate my doing it :-)

      You wrote: "Timing, timing, timing in the realm where there is no time."

      This indeed poses yet another stumbling block to understanding the order of events. Thank God for His Holy Spirit revealing details to help us fit the puzzle pieces together. Am wondering if we will have the puzzle put together before we harpazo?

      If the rhema prophecies of a large earthquake and a period of darkness are accurate (as I shared in Prophesied Events Before the Rapture , THEN I believe we will KNOW The Day is upon us!

  55. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y6HrAMwr0A "COP27 Vision of the Crowning of Antichrist 11-11-22 @ 10:23PM"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM2k98Ica-E "The Coronation Dream 11-8-22 & 11-9-22 (Uploaded 11/14/22)"

    See also https://rumble.com/v1v8o8i-steve-quayle-joins-doug-hagmann-the-hagmann-report-11172022.html "The AntiChrist, the Two Witnesses & the Third Temple | Steve Quayle with Doug Hagmann | The Hagmann Report | 11/17/2022" on a video from 18:48 minutes.

    A vision about the possible crowning of the antichrist during the past COP27 meeting in Egypt. If the antichrist has already been crowned, the Rapture will be indeed very near.

    1. Hi Moin!
      I came across those same videos and included them in one of my recent articles. If the 1st Seal represents the Antichrist, then it is possible this actually happened as Steve Quayle's insider said. Here's an excerpt:

      "Why I believe this could have happened as she describes is because Revelation 6 says the Rider on the White Horse “was given a crown”.

      And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. - Revelation 6:2 KJV

      Here we see the false Christ finally released to have his prophetic hour. He comes riding on a white horse in imitation of the True One Who will be returning to earth in great glory at His Second Coming upon a white horse (Revelation 19). Notice that Revelation 6:2 reads like the false one on the white horse already has his crown before he rides!"

    2. Oh! And I agree--"If the antichrist has already been crowned, the Rapture will be indeed very near."

  56. Well, I hadn't expected I would be writing another article this soon, but was definitely led of the Lord to do so AND it is LOADED WITH ENCOURAGEMENT:

    5783 The Year of Retribution & Rapture? 2023

    Blessings all!

  57. Here is another great sign pointing to 2023 , not noted in this wonderful article... there were two cows , both born the same day on the feast of Trumpets , 2014, both with the number "7" imprinted in white hair on their forehead. The first born was "black" (normally denoting in finance prosperity, making money, etc) ; the second born was "red" commonly associated in finance with , no money, bankruptcy, etc. According to the book of Jasher chapter 50 verse 7 Joseph's dream interpretation for Pharoe began 2 years AFTER the dream and interpretation. Jasher is mentioned twice in scripture in Joshua 10:13 and also in Samuel. Also, there are two mentions of the number "2" in Joseph's story... There are pictures of the cows and more details here ..... theseasonofreturn.com/articles. ...Two years from 2014+2=2016 plus "7" good years = 2023 and begin a famine of "7" bad years ?



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